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New SPL via OTA?

Hi guys,
Not sure if anyone's brought this up but search didn't turn up anything. Anyways, I had flashed my T-Mobile MyTouch with Cyanogen's ROM a few weeks ago. At the time, I had 1.33.2005 for SPL (which is what came with the phone) and after T-Mobile performed their Donut upgrade.. now my SPL is 1.33.006. I would have never noticed this if I wasn't tempted to try out other ROMs. Now, I can't get into Recovery Mode but Fastboot still works. Nor am I able to use flashrec to dump the recovery image back. I didn't do anything to this phone since loading Cyanogen's ROM and at the time, I still had .2005 after I had it on.
Has anyone else noticed this?

WOW that sucks! the spl they gave you is a perfect spl.
My question is did they close the one click root access with the ota doughnut?

integrated said:
Hi guys,
Not sure if anyone's brought this up but search didn't turn up anything. Anyways, I had flashed my T-Mobile MyTouch with Cyanogen's ROM a few weeks ago. At the time, I had 1.33.2005 for SPL (which is what came with the phone) and after T-Mobile performed their Donut upgrade.. now my SPL is 1.33.006. I would have never noticed this if I wasn't tempted to try out other ROMs. Now, I can't get into Recovery Mode but Fastboot still works. Nor am I able to use flashrec to dump the recovery image back. I didn't do anything to this phone since loading Cyanogen's ROM and at the time, I still had .2005 after I had it on.
Has anyone else noticed this?
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I had that HBOOT 1.33.0006 too, but I never took a look @ what I had before so I don't know if it has been changed. However, if memory serves me right, I thought we lost the ability to OTA upgrade when we root and flash custom roms? anyone can confirm on this?
Also I can still access recovery mode and fastboot, so it seems like nothing has been changed on my phone even though I have the same SPL as yours

Android0014 said:
I had that HBOOT 1.33.0006 too, but I never took a look @ what I had before so I don't know if it has been changed. However, if memory serves me right, I thought we lost the ability to OTA upgrade when we root and flash custom roms? anyone can confirm on this?
Also I can still access recovery mode and fastboot, so it seems like nothing has been changed on my phone even though I have the same SPL as yours
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That's what I thought too but this sudden change is worrisome. I'm also not sure if this SPL is even rootable with the current methods. By the sounds of it, I don't think so but correct me if I'm wrong.
This sucks!

I bought my MT3G last week and it came with that SPL. It's rootable, as long as you're on 1.5 firmware. Use the recovery flasher to flash Anom_RA's recovery, boot into recovery, flash a rooted ROM and the engineering SPL. Check my sig for the correct SPL.
If you're on 1.6, you're not out of luck. Pick up the SAPPIMG.nbh file, rename it to sappimg.nbh, place it in the root of your sdcard, boot up into hboot (volume down + power) and flash that. It will put you back into 1.5 firmware and from there you can repeat the steps above.

DOHCtor said:
I bought my MT3G last week and it came with that SPL. It's rootable, as long as you're on 1.5 firmware. Use the recovery flasher to flash Anom_RA's recovery, boot into recovery, flash a rooted ROM and the engineering SPL. Check my sig for the correct SPL.
If you're on 1.6, you're not out of luck. Pick up the SAPPIMG.nbh file, rename it to sappimg.nbh, place it in the root of your sdcard, boot up into hboot (volume down + power) and flash that. It will put you back into 1.5 firmware and from there you can repeat the steps above.
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This worked great. Thank you sir!

I was holding off until I could get a definite answer on this question, but I accidentally clicked the Install button today... When it came back up, I still had the same SPL/Radio/etc that I started with: (this is with a MT3G on T-Mobile USA)
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP S-ON G
HBOOT-1.33.0006 (SAPP30000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
Just my experience, HTH

MT3G Fender w/ wrong bootloader!! No skateboarding androids!! PLZ HELP!!!!

Let me explain to you the whole story. I obviously know im going to get flamed for this one. I will give you the short short version
I had a rooted MT3G fender with this Rom installed
http:/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669911
It worked all good until i started messing with stuff. I wanted this rom installed
http:/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673394
Since it said 32a and MT3G fender is 32a i assumed that it will install and no problems. So i used the gold card to change radio and spl to the 3.22 series. only to find out that they dont work for my phone. based on this post
"You are now screwed with a downgraded SPL and radio that do not work on this phone YAAAAAAY." -crypysmoker-
[THUNK AND FIXED] Rooting Mytouch Fender LE 32a/ Mytouch 1.2 DONT!!
http:/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622530
So now im thinking great i didnt catch that so let me just move back to where i was before. using the last section of that previous thread to install the stock radio and spl. i have done this already and know it works. so i install the stock radio and spl and the custom recovery. Boot up into recovery and restore nandroid. everything is going ok utill.....it locks up in a boot loop. i then boot back up into recovery and erase data. after that i tryed another nandroid restore and to my wonderful surprise i now lost the ability to mount the sdcard. i restarted and tryed many different cards and all failed. I then boot up into hboot restore with the goldcard and it then locks up at system.
Great now im looking for something to fix this whole mess. after that i try to reinstall the original spl and radio. I then have an error "signature verify failed." Now im thinking WTF!!!!!
I then find a thread about the RUU and how to turn off "S-on" if i install this official HTC app. However come to find out its the asia version. WONDERFUL FOR ME!!! I then found the Official T-mobile MT3G RUU, installed it and now i have a fastboot installed with a memchip with a red circle around it, not the 3 skate droids, and cant boot into HBOOT ,with the volume down button. All that i see is "RUU USB." I have adb but now get the error "remote not allowed." it used to be "signature verify failed." i have no recovery, no HBOOT, just fast boot with RUU USB.
How to i fix this mess up and get back to this?
T-Mobile MyTouch 3g Fender Edition Stock ROM with ROOT!
http:/forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5451898&posted=1#post5451898
This is what i have and show
Sapphire pvt 32a ship s-on G
Hboot-1.33.0013 (sapp31000)
cpld-13
radio-2.22.23.02
oct 21 2009,22:33:27
RUU USB
This is definitely a snowball effect right here.
Oh also i cant go and exchange the MT3g fender because im past my 14 days and i already did it on the first day. LOL

I actually am stuck on the same screen with the same phone. I hope someone has been able to get this fixed

Damn, not trying to be mean, but you screwed up a lot.
I have the same version device as you, and I upgraded my radio/SPL. and did a lot of stuff, i semi-bricked it, but i got it working again. I suggest you re-root your whole entire phone. including flashing all the radios, spl,recovery, and etc.
Try following this theunlockr[DOT]com/2010/03/11/how-to-root-the-mytouch-1-2-and-fender-mytouch/

The problem is that the phone is stuck in a bit of an interesting state. You can't flash from an RUU at this point because the engineering SPL used to root the phone is version 2.53.x, while the RUU's ROM is 2.10.x. You also cannot flash any images to the phone because the SPL is locked (S-ON). So the only way to fix the phone at this point would be to somehow get an HTC-signed 2.53+ ROM for the SAPP31000 (mytouch 3g 1.2/fender) or find a way to unlock the SPL. I had a nice chat with some of the Modaco guys and we went through a lot of options with none of them working. The phone's basically in a bit of a chicken vs. egg state. So personally, I will be building a serial cable to manually unlock the SPL so that I can flash images back on manually.
So, while I wish it was as easy as just re-flashing the phone, you can't do that with a locked SPL and no HBOOT mode available. Onward to a serial/TTL cable advendure!
Once I get the parts in to build it, I'll follow up here with my results
shintokun said:
I suggest you re-root your whole entire phone. including flashing all the radios, spl,recovery, and etc.
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Vodafone UK HTC Magic - Downgrading....

Appaantly to downgrade to 1.5 on my vodafone uk htc magic, because its not a perfect SPL, i have to create a goldcard, now, is there anyway to root my phone easier than creating a goldcard? (too complicated for me), when i try to do the sappimg.nbh file, i get incorrect id, i followed every guide
My phone details :
SAPPHIRE PVT 32B SHIP s-on g
HBOOT 1.33.0004 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.261
Apr 9 2009,23:30:40
can i root easier?

What do you aim to do?
If you wish to flash a new rom then you dont need to root first because with that SPL you can boot the phone into fastboot and use the usb fastboot facility to remote boot the recovery tool via the android sdk. Then use nandroid to backup your existing rom, wipe the phone and flash a new img. (i believe the new rom has to be signed as s=on)
I have done the exact same this week as my first attempt to flash my uk voda magic. I must have read every article I found and discovered that so many are misleading/confusing for the owners of a non-perfect spl 32b. I used this method to go straight from an unrooted magic running donut to the new cyanogen 5 running eclair using Amon's recovery tool 1.6.2g, my phone details are exactly the same as yours.
One thing I have been wondering is if I should flash the recovery program onto my phone? Is it safe to rely on usb fastbooting the program?
see the htc_sapphire_hacking wiki for more info.

thanks mate, i didnt need to downgrade my phone as i have been trying to do for weeks, now proud owner of rooted htc magic with cynaogens new 2.1 rom

mc1 said:
One thing I have been wondering is if I should flash the recovery program onto my phone? Is it safe to rely on usb fastbooting the program?
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Yes I would flash the recovery image on to your phone, its perfectly safe and much more convenient than using fastboot every time.
fastboot flash recovery recovery-name.img

i have a vodafone NL magic
32B unknown
1.33.0006
can i do the same thing...
i want it so much ... a nice rom
i hope you people can help me
thanks

HTC Magic Rooting - Which Procedure??

Ok, i just want to say hello to all members, and i hope you'll be abe to help me.
I have HTC Magic with these specifications:
SAPHHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S ON H
HBOOT 1 76 2009 (SAPP10000)
CPLD 12
RADIO 6 35 08 29
Dec 8 2009 17 38 48
Firmware ver 1 5
Kernel Version 2 6 27 5b476e83 htc kernel and18 2 989
Build Number 3 05 401 3 CL 98222 release keys (coulndt put dots between number again, because I'm new user)
I have downloaded and installed the HTC Sense update on this phone few months ago. (I couldn't download the Sense update from the HTC site with my phone's serial number that i entered, instead I found and downloaded the update here on the forum, that someone posted.)
Before the update, my phone SPL was 1 33 something and radio was 2 22 something if I remember correctly.
I have tried this:
How to root the HTC magic in one click guide on unlockr site (cannot provide you the link cause i'm a noob user and cand post links
I wanted to do the rooting the easy way but it was a "no go" i guess
With the FlashRec.apk application couldn't get past the "backup failed" message, because of the SPL i guess??
Then i tried this, because the first article said at the and that i need to unroot the phone with this guide "how to unroot your mytouch 3g" guide also from unlockr site.
I downloaded the sappimg NBH file from the provided link and put it in the root of the SD card, tried the fastboot (volume down + power button) but i could flash the phone, got the "wrong main version" message.
At the end of the article it says that the known issue is
"Issue: Phone says that the wrong Main Version is Older or Wrong Model ID"
and that the solution is:
"Solution: Use our Goldcard Method instead."
I am going to buy a gold card tomorrow, and i would be very thankful if you could point me into the right direction and give me some explanations and hints what should i do next, considering that i have a very "root unfriendly" versions of SPL and Radio. All help is appreciated.

You don't buy a gold card, you make one with an ordinary microsd card and some software you download. Here are instrucitons to get you started:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/

And since the Wiki is down, go to this thread and follow those instructions.

Ok, guys, i made the Goldcard, according to the instructions on the unlockr site, and everything seems ok. I get the problem when i try to load SAPPIMG file from HBOOT, it picks up the sappimg file and start loading it but does not ask me to flash or anything similar, just finishes the process of checking and stays in the HBOOT screen, like nothing happened. Could this be because of a 1.76.0009 perfected SPL that my Magic has? Can my magic be even rooted?
I have done the Goldcard rooting method on the unlockr site, just for the info.

It should tell you to push "action" to continue after it checks the sappimg, with the "action" being to push the trackball.
Sent from my HTC Magic using XDA App

I've made it. It's rooted now.
Used instructions for rooting 1.76.0009, from Orange_24 (whom i thank soooo much)
I have installed Amon_RA's recovery image RA-sapphire-v1.6.2H.
I am still having problems.
I can't install [32a][3.22][6.35] CM6 - FroyoRedux Mod v1.5 (08/01/2010) Froyo Supreme ROM. I start recovery mode (home + power) button, and start Flash Zip form sdcard (i previously copied the CM6-FroyoRedux-v1.5-32a-blk.zip file to the sdcard root) and I always get the "verification failed" message" and that some file is corrupted (it's not the same file always).
My SPL and Radio now are:
SAPHHIRE PVT 32A ENG S OFF H
HBOOT 1.76.2007 (SAPP10000)
6.35.xxx

Check that the ZIP file was downloaded correctly and that your SD card isn't broken. Best way to check would be to copy a file on your card and check if it has the same MD5 sum as on the computer.

God da*n it!
Why do I have problems every step of the way!!??
I have checked the MD5 and managed to install the ROM. Now i'm stuck at the infinite boot screen. Please help, i'm really running out of patience. (I have made Nand backup and stored it on my PC if all else fails).
Don't get me wrong, but from this little experience that i have until now i got the feeling that the rooting concept is just too cumbersome and that all this problems and inconsitencies are the reason why many people never let them selves into the rooting thing. I just hope the reward will be proportional to the amount of problems that an average ROOT beginner user comes in contact for the first time.

PLEASE HELP THIS IS URGENT!!!
I might have bricked my phone. After succesfull install of CM6, my phone went to boot loop, so i tried to NAND restrore my phone. I got the error message to do the NAND restore. I got the error message, saying that to do it from the adb. I didnt know how to do it, so i tried to put some other ROM, just to get the phone working. I tried with the Amon RA's clean donut ROM. Also got the infinite boot. So i tried other recovery, the recovery-RA-sapphire-v1.7.0H, flashed it through recovery adb and got the sporadic restarts after flashing when i go into the recovery mode.
After that i flashed the recovery-RAv1.2.0H.img from fastboot because this recovery is mentioned on the unlockr site instructions on how to install custom ROM. Now i cant get into recovery mode, and cant flash none of the above mentioned recoveries from fastboot.
I really need help and information is my phone bricked. Please, i have been on my computer for the whole weekend, messing around with my android phone.

ill look into wut u can do..

Flash this recovery: http://www.theandroidkitchen.com/fi...download=recovery-RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.6.2.img and use only ROMs made for NEW RADIO/NR/6.35. Either that, or flash the old radio/spl using eyegor's Radio Switcher (see dev thread).

^ Thank you in advance
The current state of the phone is, just to give you info:
Engineering SPL, S-OFF, HBOOT is 1.76.2007, Radio 6.35.08.29, recovery (flashed from Fast Boot) recovery-RAv1.2.0H which is stuck at boot loop, and Amon RA's clean donut ROM which is also stuck at boot loop.
I suppose the only way to fix this problem is to use adb from Fastboot USB or using gold card?
What are the symptoms of a definitively bricked phone?

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Flash this recovery: http://www.theandroidkitchen.com/fi...download=recovery-RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.6.2.img and use only ROMs made for NEW RADIO/NR/6.35. Either that, or flash the old radio/spl using eyegor's Radio Switcher (see dev thread).
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Can you give me the console command to flash it from fastboot? Is that the only way to flash recovery? I have tried flash recovery <recovery_name.ext>, but with no success, i get the :
C:\android-sdk-windows\tools>fastboot flash recovery recovery-RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.6.2.img
error: cannot load 'recovery-RA-Magic32A-6.35-v1.6.2.img'
EDIT:
Me stupid, forgot to place the recovery in tools folder
I'll try now to load some ROM for 6.35 radio, or maybe downgrade the SPL/Radio

[Solved] So I screwed up [CyanogenMod to modded Rogers]

So first some background:
I have an original 1.5 Rogers HTC Magic phone. I applied the 911 update to it when it was pushed out from Rogers. It was then flashed following the CyanogenMod6.0-RC directions from their Wiki and had been working well enough up until recently.
Rogers released their 2.1 and so I decided to give it a whirl.
Downloaded RCMagic Rogers RUU 3.54.631.3 Android 2.1 for magic+ ( [Rom][NR][32A]RCMagic v5 710Mhz OC WIFI Working |Rogers 2.1[Oct 10] ) and attempted to apply it via the ClockworkMod Recovery. Am now stuck at the HTC MAGIC splash screen. It just sits there. So I tried flashing the CyanogenMod zip I had left on my SD card and am having the same issue.
Booted up in fastboot and have the following info
Code:
SAPHIRE UNKNOWN 32a ENG S-OFF H
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (SAP50000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-3.22.20.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
I suspect I screwed the pooch somewhere, though I'm thankful I can still get into both fastboot and Clockwork Recovery.
And of course, I was silly and didn't make a nandroid backup once I got everything in place the first time.
So how do I get myself back to a working phone? I couldn't find anything that would get me going where I needed, and really am just more confused.
If it makes a difference I'm running Windows7 on my PC (it's always been a pain using HTC/Rogers RUUs due to that).

Did you do a full wipe first? data/cache/dalvik?

I hadn't before I posted, no. But I just performed both Wipe options in Clockwork and I'm still hanging at the HTC MAGIC splash.
I'd be willing to bring the phone back to stock and work up from there if necessary. At least I'd be somewhere!

babillon said:
I hadn't before I posted, no. But I just performed both Wipe options in Clockwork and I'm still hanging at the HTC MAGIC splash.
I'd be willing to bring the phone back to stock and work up from there if necessary. At least I'd be somewhere!
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you have wrong radio... for that rom u need 6.35 radio...
check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794450

I noticed that last night before I went to bed.
I tried running that program as well, in fact. Though it failed to put the new radio over.
Any attempt to use it resulted in a failure message. fastboot shows that it is receiving the package but once everything gets to the phone the Switcher shows it as failed.

Update! After using the Radio Switcher Tool at work on an XP machine all is now well.
For some reason the updates wouldn't push to the phone from my Windows7 machine but then again, I've always had finicky issues like that with it.
So I'm not running the new mod and everything is working wonderfully.