Returning rooted phone.... - myTouch 3G, Magic General

as of now I'm running the:
xxx.2005 engineer spl
RA 1.5.0 recovery
Latest Cyan ROM
SD won't mount since my computer motherboard cooked itself with the phone connected. Also, I keep having problems with the music app, even after full wipes and switching ROMs...possibly another hardware issue. I want to return it for a warranty replacement since I only had my MT3G for about 3 months now.
So does Tmobile check the spl version when inspecting returned phones? I would think they would.
Where and how would I get the perfect spl back on and do I run the risk of bricking?
Or do I just flash the stock recovery and then the stock rom though the bootloader?
I can't afford an extra 500 bucks added to my phone bill, so I don't wanna screw this up.
Thanks.

Since you can't mount the phone to your computer, why don't you just download the NBH from your phone and do it that way? One you boot into fastboot, the phone should pick it up from the sd card.

Can't download from the phone, I live in a "G" area (not even EDGE), downloading a 90mb file will take years lol. I'm mostly concerned about the spl really. I have a card reader to transfer the files. Does the SAPPIMG.NBH change back the spl automatically? Or is that something ill have to do manually? I just don't want any drama with Tmobile like I did over the summer, I returned a dash cause some keys stopped working and they tried saying I never sent back the defective device and sent me a $600 phone bill in the mail the following month.
I'm not going to give them any excuse I was tampering to void my warranty so ita gotta be %100 stock when I ship it out.

yes it does. I have personally done that when i had to return a mytouch under warranty

cool thanks.

Hey one more question, Will SAPPIMG also take care of the recovery image too?

It did for me. If I remember correctly.

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I think I bricked.. cannot get to bootloader or recovery mode

Any ideas?
I tried to flash a new SPL.. probably a stupid idea on my part, and it loops at the G1 screen.
I was going to install the SPL, then install SuperHero v2
I press power+home to go to recovery, and it does nothing. I try to access bootloader, and it does nothing.
Is it officially bricked?
is the phone plugged in when you are trying to do this?
if not, then try reflashing your rom.
mrcrs said:
is the phone plugged in when you are trying to do this?
if not, then try reflashing your rom.
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Well I can't boot into recovery mode =/
So I can't reflash a rom
It just stays at the G1 screen
Did you verify if you had a pvt board or not?
can you get into bootloader mode?
I did verify, and it had a compatible board. I believe it was PVT, but atm I'm pretty pissed that I can't remember. I just know for fact it was compatible, otherwise I wouldn't of even thought of going through the process.
To recap:
I cannot get into bootloader.
I cannot get into recovery mode.
It stalls on the G1 screen. It apparently is stuck in a loop.
I can get to the blue LED thing though. (Which apparently is worthless)
This is lame. (I'm an idiot)
Unless some miracle can happen, which I am very much hoping, I am going to declare it bricked.
Which means I'll have to either use my lame iPhone, or ditch out $200 for a new G1.
okay i'm sure you did this already but i gotta ask, did you try removing the battery for a few seconds then try booting into recovery?
Sooooooo....
You had a compatible board, but did you think to update to the latest Radio....?
If you didn't have the latest radio then that's what bricked your phone..
If you did then your phone shouldn't be bricked......
Did you have the latest Radio?
mrcrs said:
okay i'm sure you did this already but i gotta ask, did you try removing the battery for a few seconds then try booting into recovery?
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Yeah, and no avail
I think I'll just remove the battery for the rest of the day, and pray that somehow it'll fix. lol
imnothimm said:
You had a compatible board, but did you think to update to the latest Radio....?
If you didn't have the latest radio then that's what bricked your phone..
If you did then your phone shouldn't be bricked......
Did you have the latest Radio?
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Ah!
Found the culprit. You see, there aren't any guides that I could find that properly told me which order to do it, and how.
I thought it was SPL, then Radio, then ROM. But it's actually Radio, SPL, then ROM.
Well then I do have a brick. My first brick, woo.
Yup
Your Phone is indeed bricked...
HTC will repair it for 150...
Sounds like your only option
so if it was the saphirre or H's special spl you tried to flash but didn't upgrade the radio, then yeah... you most likely got a brick.
but what makes me wonder is that when i flashed H's special spl, i ran into the constant relooping of the g1 splash but i was still able to get into recovery mode. so i just reflashed my rom, and all was gravy.
They really will? Because $150 is $50 cheaper than I can get a new G1 (from craigslist)
But, if it's still a new phone, does it come with a 1year warranty from T-Mobile?
I know on my AT&T Tilt, at one point I messed it up, and they have a Warranty store locally, and I took it in and they tried to fix it but they couldn't, so they replaced it. Does T-Mobile have one of these anywhere?
hmmm
I sent mine into T-mobile and they replaced it for free, although I'm about 98%sure you need to have an account with T-Mobile for them to do that...
I'm pretty sure HTC is your best bet atm
Though I do have a t-mobile account. My mom and dad are with t-mobile, and I am with at&t.
if you are with tmo, then just call them.
Alright well I'll give them a call.
Maybe they will be nice
Well this sucks lol.
T-Mobile wont replace the phone because it's not purchased by me. It was purchased by someone locally on craigslist. So I would have to get in contact with that person and have them get me an exchange.
Yet another reason why I dislike T-Mobile. AT&T will just verify the IEMI, and if it shows that it's less than a year, or still under warranty, they will replace it.
I guess there's no failsafe way of fixing the G1, even after you messed up the first way to fix it?
I know in GPS navigators and stuff like that have their own failsafe mode to fix a brick. Then will force itself to connect to a computer so you can edit the whole filesystem.
Or a way to replace the system.. aka JTAG.
Recovery mode has to be accessed after a bootup. How stupid

How to intentionally brick your G1?

Here's my problem:
1) I had rooted my phone in the past.
2) I need to do a warranty return for a bad touchscreen and keyboard
3) I'm unable to flash back to stock because the home key is "stuck", so I can
only boot into recovery mode.
Is it possible to brick the phone so that it get stuck at the T-mobile loading screen before it default boots to the recovery screen?
If so, what is the most reliable way to brick my phone when all I have access to is the recovery mode?
fastboot flash a corrupt boot.img.
coolbho3000 said:
fastboot flash a corrupt boot.img.
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That would be my first choice as well... except that I can only get to recovery mode, even when I hold down the camera button.
Closest thing I can do is flash an update.zip
my touch screen died today thank god for a trackball lol
g1junky said:
my touch screen died today thank god for a trackball lol
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That's what I was thinking... I figure I'd just use my phone as-is until the replacement arrived, then I'd flash it back to stock before returning it...
If it's just a bad touch screen, they'll replace it without much fuss for next to free (just $10 shipping). Which is a very fair deal... unless you rooted your phone (boo!).
Then the home key got "stuck"... what bad luck... It's obvious when you turn it on that it's been rooted because of the custom recovery image... I'd rather make it a bit harder for them to determine my warranty's void instead of just having to turn it on.
@coolbho3000: I noticed that a boot.img file is included in some random update.zip (JFv1.3_RC8.zip) I just downloaded... Any idea what to hexedit on it to ensure it'll brick if I do an update through recovery mode? Or should I just pull the battery during the update (many times if need be)?
Update: I tried randomly screwing with the boot.img file using notepad++, but the damn phone won't use it for the update because the digest failed during the verification process. I also pulled the battery out during the part when it says it's writing the boot.img file (twice) without success -- although in this case, 'success' would be a bricked phone.
Why is this phone so hard to brick? Others just look at their g1 and can brick it...
I managed to brick my phone! It was harder than I thought (well, considering my many failed attempts), but here's how I did it:
I downloaded haykuro's 1.33.2005 special spl, renamed it to update.zip, and updated the g1 with it through the recovery panel. It's now permanently stuck at the T-mobile G1 screen. Worked for me, YMMV.
If that didn't work, my next two ideas were:
1) Very powerful magnet... high power speakers, or something else that puts out a lot of EM radiation (I'm sure I'd think of something). These things must have a low tempest rating.
2) Microwave (but that smells like desperation)
Hope this helps others in the same boat. I'll update with the bad news if they do, in fact, figure out I had rooted my phone anyways. I'm sure it's possible, yet probably unlikely. Otherwise, no news is good news.
Be glad you didnt have a custom spalsh image lol
Daemonjax said:
Here's my problem:
1) I had rooted my phone in the past.
2) I need to do a warranty return for a bad touchscreen and keyboard
3) I'm unable to flash back to stock because the home key is "stuck", so I can
only boot into recovery mode.
Is it possible to brick the phone so that it get stuck at the T-mobile loading screen before it default boots to the recovery screen?
If so, what is the most reliable way to brick my phone when all I have access to is the recovery mode?
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Pretty simple. First do a recovery to factory settings using the camera and the start button. then copy the latest SPL from this website,
in the instructions it says that you have to flash the latest radio first, don't do that, just flash the SPL... reboot, voila, you have just successfully BRICKED ur phone..
Daemonjax said:
1) Very powerful magnet... high power speakers, or something else that puts out a lot of EM radiation (I'm sure I'd think of something). These things must have a low tempest rating.
2) Microwave (but that smells like desperation)
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Magnets don't emit electromagnetic radiation -_-;;
A much easier way would just be to take a moderately high dc voltage (say ~48v) and fry part of the processor.
Daemonjax said:
I managed to brick my phone! It was harder than I thought (well, considering my many failed attempts), but here's how I did it:
I downloaded haykuro's 1.33.2005 special spl, renamed it to update.zip, and updated the g1 with it through the recovery panel. It's now permanently stuck at the T-mobile G1 screen. Worked for me, YMMV.
If that didn't work, my next two ideas were:
1) Very powerful magnet... high power speakers, or something else that puts out a lot of EM radiation (I'm sure I'd think of something). These things must have a low tempest rating.
2) Microwave (but that smells like desperation)
Hope this helps others in the same boat. I'll update with the bad news if they do, in fact, figure out I had rooted my phone anyways. I'm sure it's possible, yet probably unlikely. Otherwise, no news is good news.
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You didn't have to hard brick it like that you know. There are other ways which will convince the warranty people just as well. Now it's really bricked.
hmmm well this was my idea....if my phone ever goes wrong or sumthing.... i will just crack the screen lol. so they cant see if what software was on my phone...
the easiest thing to do is flash the danger spl before flashing the radio if u havent flashed the Danger SPL already. If u did, just flash an older SPL. That should do the trick
nephron said:
the easiest thing to do is flash the danger spl before flashing the radio if u havent flashed the Danger SPL already. If u did, just flash an older SPL. That should do the trick
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Or if you already have Haykuro's SPL just downgrade your radio hehehe
nephron said:
the easiest thing to do is flash the danger spl before flashing the radio if u havent flashed the Danger SPL already. If u did, just flash an older SPL. That should do the trick
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So if you have the danger/haykuro spl and want to downgrade that spl for w/e reason the phone will brick??? or are you trying to tell him to downgrade the radio?
turboyo said:
So if you have the danger/haykuro spl and want to downgrade that spl for w/e reason the phone will brick??? or are you trying to tell him to downgrade the radio?
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If you use Haykuro's "Danger SPL" and will try to downgrade the radio, it should brick the phone for good.
Even if your camera button is broken you can still get to fastboot through ADB. Just open an adb shell (doesn't matter if it is recovery or not) and type:
#restart bootloader
and voila - you can get into fastboot mode and flsh whatever you want.
brian_v3ntura said:
hmmm well this was my idea....if my phone ever goes wrong or sumthing.... i will just crack the screen lol. so they cant see if what software was on my phone...
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thats dumb as hell cuz if u crack ur screen u have to pay $130 deductable well at least in USA and if u send it back with out telling them the screen cracked u get to pay $370 restocking fee but ifd u just brick with spl u get free replacement just pay shipping which im about to do cuz my phone was ****ing up and i got replacement sent(20 bucks shipping thats it) but magically i fixed the phone but its rooted and fully working again so if new phone is PVT board then im bricking my phone and keeping new one.
I need help
Hey people I have a cracked G1 screen and a rooted firmware, I want to get a free warranty replacement by saying that the "Update Failed" and act like a total idiot to the tmobile people..
I also have Haykuro's latest radio and latest SPL, can someone give me clear guaranteed instructions on how to brick my fine cracked friend?
Oh, and I also want to make sure that the TMOBILE people cant go to cyanogens 1.4 Recovery image after this thing is bricked, so AANNY help would be appreciatede
housecat93 said:
Hey people I have a cracked G1 screen and a rooted firmware, I want to get a free warranty replacement by saying that the "Update Failed" and act like a total idiot to the tmobile people..
I also have Haykuro's latest radio and latest SPL, can someone give me clear guaranteed instructions on how to brick my fine cracked friend?
Oh, and I also want to make sure that the TMOBILE people cant go to cyanogens 1.4 Recovery image after this thing is bricked, so AANNY help would be appreciatede
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Grab the RC29 file, name it DREAIMG.nbh, and flash via the bootloader. Since that will downgrade the radio to the 1.1 version, you will no longer have the 1.5 radio that 1.33.2005 requires
This has got to be the funniest topic I've read in awhile.
Good luck to all you seeking bricked phones. Haha.

Bad 6.5 Flash. Bricked?

I was flashing ookba's Ozone 6.5 rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552887 and midway through it errored out and my phone won't boot now. I think I made it even worse because according to the tricolor bootloader, I still have SPL and not HardSPL. I can still bring up that screen fine but when I try a normal boot, it simply sits at the HTC logo screen. According to ookba's forum post there are no original ozone roms for vzw so does this mean that mine is bricked for good? :'(
Um i think there is a stock ozone rom up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550863
i tried to use the romupdate program with that verizon ozone rom but it won't work. it just sits there with 0% on both the computer and the phone until it errors out and i'm back where i started. do these ones still need hardspl to flash?
ur device wasnt ready to be flashed man..
if it didnt show : SPL-0.39.Hard, then u werent ready.
we said time and time again, even when the ROM was released that you needed to be sure that the above in bold was showing on your tri color screen.
sorry bro, but you now have a paper weight.
SoCalSpecialist said:
ur device wasnt ready to be flashed man..
if it didnt show : SPL-0.39.Hard, then u werent ready.
we said time and time again, even when the ROM was released that you needed to be sure that the above in bold was show on your tri color screen.
sorry bro, but you now have a paper weight.
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:[ i assumed that when hardspl showed 100% without error that it had worked.
i feel ur pain bro..i bricked testing the SPL's for us. I have the insurance and im super cool with the REPS at my local store, so the swap out was quick and easy!
hopefully u signed up for the same and got the 6 buck insurance.
I'm in the same boat man... Hardspl flashed to 100% so I thought it was installed (I have no vision so I had no way of actually checking the boot screen...), and my phone is stuck at the htc screen after it vibrates...
I have the $8 insurance, but I'm scared to bring the phone to a verizon store for fear of THEM finding out. I'd much rather try and reflash a signed stock rom image.
If you have the insurance it doesn' matter.
Just call the insurance company and say you dropped it in the toilet.
Then drop it in the toilet !!!!
brent372 said:
If you have the insurance it doesn' matter.
Just call the insurance company and say you dropped it in the toilet.
Then drop it in the toilet !!!!
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pretty much..dont go into details about what happened just tell them something as mentioned and u will have a new device at ur doorstep in about 24hrs!
one of the perks of paying the $6 or $8 dollar insurance.
just brought in the vzw store and they gave me a new one. currently running ookba's 6.5 rom on the new one
Bad Flash problem..
I had the same issue with HardSPL not completeing the install before attempting to Flash. Now my Ozone will to boot at all. My problem is that this is a company phone and they will be upset. How do I create a "gold card" to get it to take a ROM or has anyone located an official ROM that will load without HardSPL being in place?
richallen1 said:
I had the same issue with HardSPL not completeing the install before attempting to Flash. Now my Ozone will to boot at all. My problem is that this is a company phone and they will be upset. How do I create a "gold card" to get it to take a ROM or has anyone located an official ROM that will load without HardSPL being in place?
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you could probably make a donation to jockeyw and talk to him about it if he's got the time.
richallen1 said:
I had the same issue with HardSPL not completeing the install before attempting to Flash. Now my Ozone will to boot at all. My problem is that this is a company phone and they will be upset. How do I create a "gold card" to get it to take a ROM or has anyone located an official ROM that will load without HardSPL being in place?
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silly mistake on ur behalf, especially with a company device. As ive mentioned, i encourage ALL to read thru the ROM update and SPL thread's carefully, it saves a headache, and possibly ur job! and if ur still unsure, ask a question. The reason i say this and stick with it specifically in ur case, is because i recently had a co-worker get let go for bricking his Blackberry Tour that was supplied to him no more than 2 weeks ago. Again good dude, silly mistake.
Now i dont now much about it, but from what i understand a "gold card" as forementioned, is out of the question for an Ozone. I belive this was covered already in one of the ROM threads.
That's not good. I just bricked my THIRD Ozone guys. I flashed the hardspl and although my sd and sim cards were out it still didn't flash I think. I'm back where I was a month ago.
+, I activated my screen reader on the device. The screen reader uses your MEID and ESN to allow your license to be on the phone. If I were to take my ozone back (yet again), I would have to pay $200 to the company in order to have them "reset" my license in the system.
I am desperate for a signed rom. Can hardspl be flashed on somehow with the SD card?
:'(
My Rom was Wiped Out
hi,
missed to remove simcard,
tryed to to update with out hard SPL and my Phone Rom was wiped Out
now its boot and show HTC screen only
try to instal hard SPL after this and massage shows divice not connected
can u help me fix this now my fone is just a peper waigth use only
thanks in advance
[email protected]
another one bites the dust..
It seems the HARDSPL is not working for a high % of first time flashers.
It would make sense that this be taken care of. i would encourage any one who wants this to be fixed to make a donation and specify your wants and needs.
There is some confusion whether to sda unlock before running auto.bat and ruu hardspl.
it seems to me that the jumpspl is not correctly working so the hardspl is not working. the jumpspl sspl bypasses the security temporarily so that the RUU can flash the rom with hardspl. this is not completing correctly and bricking phones. Ill try to get new phone from local store tomorrow and retest process to see if i can come up with where problem lies.
its seems Good News
awaiting for your reply
Tanks

Bad Recovery flash -> looping boot

I have a rooted Rogers 32A Magic. I had cursor sense and 1.76.0007 spl and the 6.35 radio. I was thinking about flashing CM so without thinking I followed the instructions and flashed Clockwork Recovery through the .apk. After rebooting my phone, it now loops the first boot screen indefinitely. Fastboot, Recovery and Hboot won't load.
Brick? In which case I'm out of a Magic for four months till I can get back to Canada. And stuck with a un-rooted Dream...sigh.
I have this same problem....any solution?
If you can't get to fastboot or recovery, your hosed.
That's what I was beginning to think ya. ****, it's my wife's phone, she's gonna be pissed!
No way hardware wise to do anything? Crap the Magics are still expensive used. I'll contact HTC maybe get it fixed via warranty, still leaves her without a phone for a while.
Rooting voids your warranty. Take it back to a T-Mobile store and see if they'll let you swap it out. If not, hopefully you've got the insurance so you could just say you lost the phone and pay the $80 for another.
Good ideas, unfortunately I'm using a Rogers phone on Bell, no insurance.
Ouch, I'm not saying you can't still try to get them to replace it under warranty. Just more than likely they will tell you to pack sand.
EDIT: Actually I was just looking around and I guess someone got their bricked phone fixed by HTC. They couldn't tell the phone was bricked by rooting it because they also couldn't get into hboot to check the SPL (or he just got lucky and the tech didn't care) so there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

[q] need help with hd2 experts please read!

Ok, guys I REALLY NEED HELP WITH MY TMOUS HD2.
I currently have HSPL 2.08 but everytime i go into the bootloader and install a WinMo 6.5 Rom it gets stucked at 8% percent for awhile then goes to 100. After i installed it, it gets stuck on T-Mobile, Stick Together screen with the R G B thing on the bottom.
I had NAND on my HD2 but it keeps freezing in every rom anytime I use data connection, recieve calls, or use browser or anything that uses the Data Or T-Mobile Connection. So i decide to reflash everything starting with Radio, and I recently installed Radio 2.15 something like that in A radio thread somewhere on the forums. I chose that one because im assuming it's the newest one. I flashed it, and removed MAGLDR, and etc. I currently tried using Task29 and flashed stock 2.08 radio but had the same problems. I CANNOT FLASH ANY ROMS. I TRIED REFLASHING MAGLDR AND CWM AND I CANT GET INTO RECOVERY I GET A FATAL ERROR1. Should return the HD2 to T-Mobile? They don't sell the HD2 anymore so i assume HTC will have to give me one. I'm currently deciding the only choice i have is to return my HD2 to T-Mobile. I flashed SPL 2.08 so it's back to stock. I cannot install or load any roms without it being stuck in the T-Mobile screen. Any help? Or i just have to replace it with a new one?
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Ok, guys I REALLY NEED HELP WITH MY TMOUS HD2.
I currently have HSPL 2.08 but everytime i go into the bootloader and install a WinMo 6.5 Rom it gets stucked at 8% percent for awhile then goes to 100. After i installed it, it gets stuck on T-Mobile, Stick Together screen with the R G B thing on the bottom.
I had NAND on my HD2 but it keeps freezing in every rom anytime I use data connection, recieve calls, or use browser or anything that uses the Data Or T-Mobile Connection. So i decide to reflash everything starting with Radio, and I recently installed Radio 2.15 something like that in A radio thread somewhere on the forums. I chose that one because im assuming it's the newest one. I flashed it, and removed MAGLDR, and etc. I currently tried using Task29 and flashed stock 2.08 radio but had the same problems. I CANNOT FLASH ANY ROMS. I TRIED REFLASHING MAGLDR AND CWM AND I CANT GET INTO RECOVERY I GET A FATAL ERROR1. Should return the HD2 to T-Mobile? They don't sell the HD2 anymore so i assume HTC will have to give me one. I'm currently deciding the only choice i have is to return my HD2 to T-Mobile. I flashed SPL 2.08 so it's back to stock. I cannot install or load any roms without it being stuck in the T-Mobile screen. Any help? Or i just have to replace it with a new one?
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your phone is currently out of warranty, do not send it to HTC.
Download the tmobile stock ROM by going to the tmobile website > support and they will aks you for your IMEI and SN, enter it and it will give you a download for the stock ROM.
Download the ROM, then extract the file.
Take the .nbh file and rename it to LEOIMG.NBH
put that on the root of your 8gb or less SD card, pop it in, get into bootloader, and hit the power button when it tells you to.
IF this fails it sounds like a hardware issue.
Put your phone in a plastic bag and stick it in th fridge for 10 minutes, take it out and reflash as above, after flash call HTC on a warranty claim because your phone will be stock and hence back in warranty.
I've tried that, i only have a 16gb sd card and it works, but it gets stuck in the stick together crap. D:
seems to be cropping up every few days lately, this problem, though it's always been around. 'stuck radio', 'spl wont change ' 'flash fails at 8/9/10%' and variants thereof, , android gives fatal hit, nothing sticks when flashed, and teh phone never gets past teh rgd screen (cos the radio is shafted)
so i cant send it to htc? then wtf..?
blahblah13233 said:
so i cant send it to htc? then wtf..?
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Well from reading this thread I agree with samsamuel, it sounds like you are having a hardware problem as most of the HD2's that people have that show the symptoms Sam mentioned can not be fixed with software solutions. Bu there is the occasional anomaly that someone manages to bring back to life but even m,ost of them eventually completely get "stuck" and then they are useless.
As for what to do. You can take it or send it somewhere to replace the mainboard for you. Or just buy another HD2. That is it short and sweet.
so whats the update blahblah 13233?
Thanks guys with all the help possible, I went to a T-Mobile store and asked for a replacement, it should be coming in 2 days. I had to pay 5$ Shipping. So when I get my new phone I gotta give my old phone in some container or whatever and mail it to htc or give it to any T-Mobile store Thanks guys with giving me ideas. The people at T-Mobile said it's a hardware problem like the guy stated above. Oh well, I hope it doesn't happen again.

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