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O2 XDA II is unknown in the U.S.

I had people asking me what kind of phone it is, or who made it, and I never heard of it. Some even question who is the provider and so on. A couple of time, I answered that it's not just a phone, it's a Pocket PC. Even then they don't know what Pocket PC is. They ask if it's Palm.
Of course, that's when I told them, it's more powerful, I can watch full 2 hours+ movie in this, browse the internet with IE. One person was so awe about this device, he's willing to pay premium for it and he works in a Cellphone place.
It really tickles me how I have to explain about this device and seeing their face changes as I explain the things I can do by showing them. It doesn't even look like a phone.
I want to hear what people say about the XDA II or similar device that's not available in the U.S. Maybe you guys wants to share? Or even places where XDA II or similar device isn't available in that country.

Yeah, that's been my experience too. It's even worse now with the XDA II and a Bluetooth headset. I guess I'm kinda used to it, since I had an Apple Newton since they were released. Handhelds just didn't exist at all then, so it was a real attention-grabber.
Even helped with dates. If a lady of appropriate specifications asked about how it worked, I'd pop open a "new contact" form and let her have a go. Usually I'd get a knowing smirk and a number.
If you think it's like that in the US, you would have fallen on the floor laughing if you were with me in Mexico when I tried to get a prepaid SIM for it. They were asking what phone it was for, and didn't understand "Pocket PC," so I pulled it out to show them. Well, I may as well have pulled a wiggling baby alien out of my pocket and thrust it at them, judging by their reaction and wide eyes.
Since I use my XDA for just about everything, I get questions from people in all facets of business. I've used it on-the-spot to check car ratings and comparitive prices while standing in front of the salesman. He was rather taken aback, as he lost his ability to bull**** me. I used it while looking for a house for a recent move. Got the agent hooked on the idea, she said she was going to buy one. I keep my shopping list on it and occasionally look up nutritional info while in the store (I'm diabetic, have to watch some things). Speaking of that, I track blood sugar vs. sugar intake, as well as other dietary info to help me understand my needs. Other people with dietary needs are amazed at how it simplifies life. I track the cars and motorcycle with it. TV shows. And on and on. It seems that no matter what I do, I'm using my XDA to do it, so it gets a lot of exposure.

In Washington DC where I'm going to school they sell the Siemens SX56 (xda I) and the MDA I and MDA II at TMobile... but yah generally people look at my phone and go wtf is that

They are obviously common in the UK then as noone seems to take a second look at it when i'm using mine,
I see at least 4 or 5 people every day with XDA2's on the train into london in the mornings and it not the same people either!,
most people seem to just hold it to their head to talk on it, but i think it much easier to use a bluetooth headset with it

tmobile and o2 are not present around here but the 2 mayor cellphone company offer the qtek series but mainly to companies
and orange sell their m1000 even see them in comercials but thats with tomtom and i doubt many people know it's a gsm phone aswell
suppose xda series are less known in us because they are not cma or 550Ghz
but mda3 / qtek9090 comes in both versions

I was looking for XDA II or something similar to it here in T-Mobile shop but come to a disppointed conclusion. There seem to be selling it on the East Coast rather than West Coast. T-Mobile specified they carry it, but when I looked for it, it's not available and the sales person were like, is that a phone? How come there's no antenna.
A couple of times when I took my phone out to make a phone call, people just look at it as a pda. Not until I got a phone call while doodling with it when they realize it's a phone too.
My co-worker was making fun of it saying, phones are getting smaller and here he is carrying a brick. Haha. So it's a multi-function brick, small phones can't do what this thing can do. I love it. Thanks for sharing guys. Great story.

nokias havent had antennas for ages
if they carry it on the other cost cant you just order it online rather then go to a shop where they would not know a pocketpc if it attacked and eate them and everybody they knew ?
recall when the first xda1 version i heard off came out which was the siemens 56 whatever it was only in the us and it took a few of months to reach here of cause maybe tmobile and o2 had them before i dont know

Who wants to preorder one? Get it here!

http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.p...ucts_id=2503&zenid=l6kq0544tuqdc7d3j9alaujoa2
Found this via the HTC site!
Happy buying!

BEWARE!!!!!
nowimboard said:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.p...ucts_id=2503&zenid=l6kq0544tuqdc7d3j9alaujoa2
Found this via the HTC site!
Happy buying!
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BEWARE!!!!! that link leads to the touch HD page but with a touch diamond already added to the cart. are you hoping people will blindly check out and have a free touch diamond shipped to you? or do you just want to get a kick out of people spending extra money on a phone they didn't intend to buy???

I logged onto the site and when I went to the checkout, it was the HTC HD unit!
Not sure why you got a HTC Diamond ????
But always good to check first !
Cheers

my apologies to the OP, i jumped the gun. i dont know what happened either, i clicked on that link multiple times, i even cleared the browser cache each time. blah.. must be my computer acting up again. my bad once more

Well but the site is not worth my confidence or true..
they have on the bottom of the page this:
Copyright © 2006 Inkino Ltd.
2006?! outdated no?

atomikpt said:
Well but the site is not worth my confidence or true..
they have on the bottom of the page this:
Copyright © 2006 Inkino Ltd.
2006?! outdated no?
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No - that is when they asserted copyright. I can vouch for inkino (having visited their stores and purchased from them several times). They offer great and reliable service.
Others think so too -eg:
Metisse said:
Can I just add that I have bought my QTEK S200, Trinity and Touch Pro from INKINO. You may not get the very best price (you are generally talking only a few tens of pounds on a £500 product), but the service and assistance I have had from the guys who work there is second to none.
I went in yesterday with a problem on my Touch Pro and it was sorted straight away with no quibbles whatsoever. All the people who work there know their stuff when it comes to HTC and will be very straight with you. They are an HTC Authorised Ultimate Partner. They do not hard sell or push something they know is not what you want or need. A BIG contrast to some of the other stores in that area!
There are in fact two INKINO stores. The one at 48 Tottenham Court Road is within another shop and can get busy, the other is a little down the road at 9 Great Russell Street, bigger and generally more staff but no less quality of service.
(A big thanks to Alan, if you're listening, for yesterday - its working fine)
PS I don't work for them either.
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Interesting email from Clove Technology....
There are some things in life that are worth waiting for; the new HTC Touch HD is just one of those things. You registered to be notified when the HTC HD became available, we can today confirm that as of next Tuesday, the 4th of November, we will have limited stock arriving.
This exceptional unit has received phenomenal levels of interest and is the ultimate Windows Mobile device. Want to be reminded of what all the fuss is about?
If the answer is yes, take a look at the following:
- 3.8-inch wide, WVGA (480 X 800 pixel) for a rich viewing experience
- Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user for complete finger navigation of the main features including contacts, calendar, music and video.
- Surf the web and download pages at broadband speed with HSDPA internet connectivity
- GPS on board with Google maps offers street level navigation
- 5 megapixel camera for quality stills and video
- 3.5 mm audio jack makes the HTC HD compatible with the majority of audio equipment available
- Bluetooth and WiFi for complete wireless connectivity to other devices and the internet or networks.
With such a feature rich specification this is the device that everyone is talking about. Much of our first stock is pre-sold but we do still have a number of units available.
Priced at a very competitive £445 + VAT the HD is available for order today by clicking the following link .................
If you have already placed an order, you need not do anything more. We shall process and ship your order as soon as stock arrives.
The Clove Technology Sales Team.

Just to point out, I followed that website from the main HTC website and that I just copied the link..
I wasn't encouraging or promoting the website! Just pointing out it was there!

HTC inconsistant? Release date?

Damn just when i thought HTC could redeem themselves with the new One. One impressive phone. Ive loved HTC since the G1 days. I had an Amaze from T-mobile USA but sold it and got a samsung galaxy nexus for the pure android experience since HTC was lagging with updates and the lack of community developers. It was horrible there were incomplete roms because of lack of source code from HTC. Though I missed sense and the practicality it brought with it's widgets. Now I heard that the HTC one is coming out im like SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
Well back to the topic. Isn't the USA their main market target and that the delay shouldn't affect the release date? Then whats with all the hubub with people from the UK already having it in their hands. So whats up HTC? is it really delayed or what? If you really want people to stick to your company you shouldnt leave people out in the shadows about release dates. If you say its delayed then how come some people already have it?
For the people that has the HTC one how did you get your lucky hands on one?
Anyone in the US has it yet?

Different markets are getting it at different times.
No manufacture delivers it to every nation straight away. Especially into a market as big as america. They've aimed for a smaller markets in the UK and Germany as a tester it seems, see how to manufacturing process is and the reviews from sites and people who own it to then see how they can ramp it up.

Narom88 said:
Different markets are getting it at different times.
No manufacture delivers it to every nation straight away. Especially into a market as big as america. They've aimed for a smaller markets in the UK and Germany as a tester it seems, see how to manufacturing process is and the reviews from sites and people who own it to then see how they can ramp it up.
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Nothing to do with manufacturing. In fact it's nothing to do with anything you mention.
It's more to do with how many advertising and PR campaigns a manufacturer can effectively maintain in a cost effective manner.
One territory at a time, innit, with a bit of overlap. Plus there's ad space to book and buy ... editorials .. all the other stuff the punter doesn't see.

HTC and lack of support with sales assistants in shops.

http:// http://androidheadlines.com/2013/05/htc-one-still-not-selling-as-well-as-the-galaxy-s4.html
It's interesting reading this article and the readers posts.
From my experience unless your buying an iPhone or Samsung the sales assistant does not know a thing and will guide you to either if you ask for anything but these 2 brands?
If I try and buy accessories for my HTC One it's almost near impossible as well.
Yesterday I was in Bluewater shopping center in Kent, now until Westfield opened it was the largest shopping center in europe.
I walked from one end of it to the other and there's 2x carphone warehouse, 2x phones4u, 1x EE, 2X O2, 1x Vodafone, 1x independent phone shop.
Now I kid you not I just wanted a replacement case for my phone, no one and I mean no one had one!
What they did have mind is racks of s4 cases! But ironic as it is they didn't have any s4 phones!
When I did enquire they just brushed me off and always gave a negative passing comment.
This I would like to think would not be having a negative effect on their sales but I can bet is has? When I upgraded the sale assistant was 'advising' me to wait 4 weeks for the new Samsung handset as it would be 'worth the wait'.
Has anyone else had experiences like this?

My local cpw prefered the one over the Sony I went in to look at. They suggested waiting for an iphone, I wasn't interested. They only had the car holder available for the one, no cases or anything else. The car holder I bought for £14 less from ebay, shopping around helps.
The shop didn't have a real one as a demo unit, so I bought it without seeing one. Glad I did though

jiggle_ said:
My local cpw prefered the one over the Sony I went in to look at. They suggested waiting for an iphone, I wasn't interested. They only had the car holder available for the one, no cases or anything else. The car holder I bought for £14 less from ebay, shopping around helps.
The shop didn't have a real one as a demo unit, so I bought it without seeing one. Glad I did though
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I have to agree with both of the above comments. I tried cancelling my contract via retentions and wanted to ask for deals on the HTC one. All I gotwas deals on cheap ass phones and when I asked about deals on the HTC one they realised I wanted something high end and said I could pre order the s4 or the iPhone is a good phone. I was like.... No .... I'm interested in the HTC one. Sure enough any "deals" were the same as a new customer could get by goinng through the website! Needless to say I got my Pac code and left.
The retentions guy and subsequent calls had no interest in offering the HTC one at all and like mentioned above. It's either Samsung or iPhone they offer people. Unless people see the one for themselves and don't get swade by the sales people HTC will miss a lot of sales due to the sales pitch of customer reps pushing other brands instead of being impartial like they claim to be!!

Can anyone tell us whether commission or sales bonuses etc have a bearing on this?
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Yes I noticed this too, already when I was deciding on buying a desire and wanted to see some all sales assistants always wanted to show me the sgs too.
Anyway Samsung is smart I saw they make a lot of accessories for their phones too. I still haven't found a pouch for my One and indeed lots of accessories for the sgs4 even when it hadn't even been released.
One assistant though assured me none of the pouches would fit because he had tried them for his own One.

jamiee6610 said:
Has anyone else had experiences like this?
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It's a shop assistant.
It knows less than you do but is convinced that it knows more.
See also record shops and hi-fi shops.
Clothes shop assistants are the opposite because they always know you look a total spunt in what you've chosen to wear but will never tell you.
Avoid shop assistants.

Maybe we should make HTC aware of our experiences if this is happening to us I wonder how many more it happened to?
Surely this has to be having some impact on their sales?

I was in Carphone Warehouse the other day; a couple in front of me were wanting to Upgrade there HTC Incredible S, first of all the assistant kept calling it the One S, obviously not having a clue what phone they were on about. Secondly the couple said they were preferable looking for another HTC and the assistant came out with "oh I wouldn't bother, Samsung is what everyone wants and should have now" and tried to tie them down to a S2 for 2 years.
This isn't the first time I've seen Carphone Warehouse and there Samsung biased. It's ridiculous. After they were gone and I finally got served, I told her the One was the best phone I'd ever used and not everyone "wants a Samsung" she didn't have much to say this time around.

UOKM8 said:
I was in Carphone Warehouse the other day; a couple in front of me were wanting to Upgrade there HTC Incredible S, first of all the assistant kept calling it the One S, obviously not having a clue what phone they were on about. Secondly the couple said they were preferable looking for another HTC and the assistant came out with "oh I wouldn't bother, Samsung is what everyone wants and should have now" and tried to tie them down to a S2 for 2 years.
This isn't the first time I've seen Carphone Warehouse and there Samsung biased. It's ridiculous. After they were gone and I finally got served, I told her the One was the best phone I'd ever used and not everyone "wants a Samsung" she didn't have much to say this time around.
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This behaviour is quiet concerning, I took the time to email them yyesterday after reading the replies.
I have to ask how damaging must this been to a company like HTC who right now are on the ropes?

Well its taken 4 high streets, 1 retail park and 2 shopping centres but i managed to find a case!
O2 had 3 in stock, they said the only get a few at a time because of lack of interest, again asked why didnt i wait for the SG4?

I remembered after I posted, I went to cpw 3 times altogether, first time I was told the phone was free with the contract I wanted. But my gf was moaning so we left. I went back just before the shop closed but then found I needed to pay a bit towards it. I didn't have any money on me.
I went back the following morning, the nice girl told me they where out of stock. I said you had them last night when you closed, can you check.
The nice girl came back with the phone I wonder how many other customers where turned away. If I hadn't insisted they had them I would have left without it.
HTC could do with better support from retailers

Samsung offer very large subsidies/rewards to retailers who sell their phones especially the flagship model which is maybe why everyone gets redirected to those phones. Also HTC brand awareness is not as strong as Samsung or Apple whose marketing budget is ridiculous! Samsung have released several adverts for the S4, especially in America where as I can only just remember the HTC one advert.
I know HTC in America have started offering vouchers or cash back to customers who buy their phone so may be more ONES will be sold in the future.

posted from a month ago, but While I was at the At&t store, Really surprised how:
A): not a single person was looking at the 3 HTC ones they had displayed -the guy couldn't even find them through the sea of other phones. I barely noticed them and showed him where they were - after I finally found them. No one there seemed to know anything about the phone either. Was there for an hour and NO ONE (except me) even looked at one and there were probably 30-40 people there. Funny thing is i thought there would be a crowd and id have to fight for one. SADLY was a breeze. This was the first week they were out.The store was litered with samsung, apple and LG.
And B): the ONE display was facing the back of the store and was no where even remotely visible to anyone that could walk in. Not even noticeable unless you knew that the phone was aluminum and knew exactly what you were looking for.

you expect too much from these shops
its like expecting camera advice in pcworld
they have heaps of phones and want to sell the latest, because these have the highest margins
the CPW i went into were quite sanguine about the one vs s4, the assistant said the one is nicer and they were roughly selling 50/50
i eventually bought it from a phones4u as it was cheaper and they weren't umming and arring about selling one off contract

There are two things about this issue.
First of all, not all of the sellers have tech knowledge good enough and yes it doesn't make sense. BUT, it is kinda understandable. I mean, there will be someone else there who can help you.
But what really annoys me had happened to me a few days ago. I was in a biiiig techmarket, comparing XZ, S4 and One, and some stupid sales assistant came and was like "omg why are you checking them just buy s4 rest is crap"
Even if what he said was true, this was the most annoying thing i've ever heard from a sales assistant. You are only there to inform, noone cares about your subjective comments. I'd have fired him right away.

Two largest T-mobile centres here and another operator (3 total) never heard of One, still don't have it and don't know when will it arrive. They all redirect me to information about One S, SV, etc.
People are raging like nuts here, spamming T-mobile and HTC pages on Facebook, etc.
Consequences of bad marketing...

I work at Cpw and I do my best to promote the one. We only have two types of cases and at least 6 different for the s4

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I work at Cpw and I do my best to promote the one. We only have two types of cases and at least 6 different for the s4
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The sales assistant that helped me with my One today complained about same thing. He said that HTC One is the "not so popular" big gun. He said they don't have any accessories yet, not even from HTC.
Oh well, at least the phone is sooo good this time.

I just picked up my One yesterday.
I walked into the Telus store and asked the salesman what he would recommend in an android phone and the first one he showed me was the HTC One!
Also the Nexus 4 was recommended as well.
He barely mentioned the SG4. It was tucked away with the rest of the phones but the One was right in front of the door as you walked in and couldn't miss it if you tried.
When asked what phone he would use, he picked the HTC One.
Things are looking up.

HTC One sold/shipped 5 million times in a month?

After reading all the bad news yesterday about HTC (people leaving the company, articles about a "future without HTC", etc): I opened my dutch news app this morning when drinking my coffee and saw this:
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3481460/htc-one-vijf-miljoen-keer-verkocht.html
I expected to see an article about the Galaxy S4 being sold 10m times in the first month, but this nice dutch website preffered to focus on what HTC has done. Apparently, HTC has sold 5 million One's in "one month". So it has done 50% of what Samsung has done in the last month. And I guess that doesn't include what HTC has sold in March/April.
The weird thing is, I always read my twitter feed first. I have not seen a single report about this anywhere on Twitter. On the other side, NU.nl is a big and serious website here in the Netherlands.
What do you guys think? I am very happy to see this and it's far above my expectations. If this is true, HTC is not dying anytime soon!

Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.

I'm happy for them and hope they'll get through the rough time they are atm so they can continue making amazing phones!

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Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?

you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)

hamdir said:
its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
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High demand with nothing to sell is still not a sale though, unless they are also including unfulfilled orders by their carrier partners and local stores~~ The phone has been launched in my country a whole month ago, and not a single store has more than 1 unit for sale at a time, with some stores getting 5 units per 3 days (that's on the high end) >.>
Making my 1-to-1 change for a faulty NFC chip all the more painful, as I'll have to wait 1-2 weeks for HTC to bring in stock ):

Cbxu said:
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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I didn't miss it, though I forgot to mention it in the first post. I'm not sure about the 10m from Samsung either, are those sold or orders done by shops/carriers?
Either way, I was expecting this exact message but with a 1 instead of the 5 million. Even if it's just orders done by carriers/shops, it's far above my expectations!
And it's good HTC are doubling their production, it's indeed awfull they often have 1-2 units per store also in the Netherlands.

I think samsung is aiming the same, 10 million orders but not all of them sold; they're still in storage of retailers / carriers.
Also when i went for accessory shopping, I was told everytime that they didn't have any since they got such few phones (1 - 5 maybe a day). saying it was not worth it yet buying accessories for such a scarce phone. it affects a whole deal.

5 million since launch, not just the last month:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358378/htc-one-5-million-smartphone-sales
Very respectable number to be honest, sure Samsung has double that in less time but people wanted another S3 and well, thats basically what they got.
Learned people got the One and now word of how good it is, is spreading.
But HTC, why did you release the HTC First? /sigh

5 million Seems like a stretch actually... Supply is still a serious issue..... The unlocked versions in US have been in backorder status for the entire month.... HTC ONE launch has been delayed by over 1 month in most Asia countries....
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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amazing to see htc do so well after all the production delays!
i think this is the first time im hearing them declare how much they sold.
go htc go!!! brilliant stuff

When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.

mnshzz said:
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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i think if supplies are enough,it will surpass S4 sales.here in riyadh,One were sold out in two days in all carriers/online stores here..and we are not so lucky to get one..they told us stocks will be avail in 2 to 7 days ..just sayin

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And how do you know they're BS'ing? Do you have your own sources within HTC, or are you just pulling stuff from the place where the sun don't shine?

For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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HTC One is selling good in Turkey aswell. I saw many people who doesn't even know HTC but after seeing review unit they are amazed by quality.

bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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Exactly. HTC sells to the carriers so those are their sales numbers. They have already made their money.The carriers and other suppliers sell to us, and their numbers reflect that.

ataft said:
Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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You are completely right. I would add thought that more of those 5 million units are in consumers hands then the 10 million from Samsung. HTC is pushing this phone out fast. Last one I got was made 6 days before it came into my hands. I would imagine there is a decent stockpile of S4 in some places where I do not think that is true of the ONE.
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mnshzz said:
Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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So then where are these units. What warehouse are they hiding in? Why did some guy pay $800 on ebay for my ONE? No one has stock of the HTC ONE. There is no surplus anywhere that I have heard. I have only heard their are not enough to go around.