hey guys, i was reading this and dont understand. is it possible to get 720p video recording with a driver update? take a look at this and look at the first two lines of the last paragraph:
http://pocketnow.com/thought/will-720p-hd-recording-make-it-to-htc-windows-mobile-2010
Now that would surely be a nice to have patch!
720p? They haven't even got the 240 to a decent quality yet and probably never will!
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is it possible to get 720p video recording with a driver update?
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No.
lol... sorry to start a flame, but apparently op cannot read with understanding.
read this article again. slowly.
That first one on the link looks like little more than a HD2 with a keypad photoshopped on the bottom.
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@pagnell - that is a real HTC phone. Due for release sometime in the first half of 2010.
As per GTRoberts' post above...
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/news5295.html
I'm well aware of that. Hence the use of the words 'looks like'.
If the bravo can do 720P recording then in theory so should the HD2. I doubt its a hardware issue, more of a software issue. Whether its a fault of windows mobile, or the camera software im not sure.
Ive certainly tried all manor of things to get 720P recording on the HD2, but nothing has worked yet.
rovex said:
If the bravo can do 720P recording then in theory so should the HD2. I doubt its a hardware issue, more of a software issue. Whether its a fault of windows mobile, or the camera software im not sure.
Ive certainly tried all manor of things to get 720P recording on the HD2, but nothing has worked yet.
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I'm betting that it's a WM6.x thing and it won't be enabled until WM7. Qualcomm seems to have it working on WM7 :
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009...-video-encoding-divx-decoding-on-the-htc-hd2/
There's a reason why all decent camera phones to date have run Symbian rather than Windows Mobile.
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There's a reason why all decent camera phones to date have run Symbian rather than Windows Mobile.
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Yes, Symbian phones are most often positioned as multimedia/consumer devices. Thus, the manufacturers put decent cameras into them (which also means thicker phones, e.g. the Satio is 17mm thick because you can't put that 12mpix camera + Xenon flash in a 11mm phone!). And they use all the multimedia features of the hardware.
WM devices are typically positioned as business devices. I'm sure they could develop the drivers to use the hardware, but they don't because they save costs on something that they consider unnecessary for a business device. WM itself should be able to use the hardware with the appropriate software.
The Snapdragon chipset should easily be able to play and record 720p video, but as long as we don't have the software, we can not use it.
Btw.: The thread is redundant: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599489
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I found this news on wmpoweruser.com.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3820
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I really doubt that is Windows 7 (unrelated : isn't it weird how the desktop version and the mobile version now have the same name? )
And after reading the comments on the other thread I seriously doubt that wm7 will be released this year:
1) they're still working on wm6.5
2) releasing wm7 so close after wm6.5 would be ummm....counterproductive?
Until we find something on the internet really identifying it as WM7, I'm a skeptic.
microsoft has already said that wm7 wont be out till next year (prob march/april) its only developers that get it in november i think
Yes, actually that does look like WM7. A while ago a large number of concept screen shots came out. The credibility of those screen shot and the story behind it could be debated. But IMO sure evidence came in the form that in a MS live mesh commercial there was a brief shot of an HTC touch running the exact UI that was leaked. This looks like that interface with a few tweaks/improvements. I am trying to find that original story.
*edit* not the story I was talking about but all the shots were like this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blinx_182/3265548956/
*edit 2*
The first two pics are from the live mesh commercial. Note, WM7 is not really running on his device. They are screen shots. I was fooled at first. lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blinx_182/
Here it is. The full story. Not the original site I saw it on but looks like the same pictures and text.
http://www.zakeh.com/2008/01/07/windows-mobile-7-details-leak-cool/
That UI was found on a WM device in a MS commercial. Evidence enough to me that at least at some point this is the direction MS was going. And I like it.
I think wm7 will change alot over the next year as they get feedback and see what every one else does.
This might be early code but still about 6 months till developers get it then another 5 months of changing as they get feedback from developer
My guess is no. Hell no.
It looks a bit crap, not to mention VGA (why would MS be developing a 2010 mobile OS in VGA?). I'm very sceptical.
More screenshots
Zune software on WM7??
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3870
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Zune software on WM7??
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=3870
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Zune was supposed to be in 6.5. They skimped on us.
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X2
Nice pics...
But going by SE track record and add to that the lag in release of WM 6.5, I dont think this device will hit the shelfs before end 2009
Hardware doesn't seem to have changed much - just the design. Hmmmm..... I actually think the X1 looks better....
EDIT - From the other post concerning X2:
'According to insider:
-8.1mpx auto focus, VGA @ 30fps (MP4 HQ)
-3.5ยด WVGA OLED (increased from 3.0 from X1)
-GPS, aGPS
-Accelerometer
-Faster processor
-512 RAM
-Custom Windows Mobile 6.5 (SE engineers customized Win6.5 which runs very. very speedy. in par with iphone and better in some cases)
-XPERIA Panels are modified with plenty of innovative features (PS3 remote play being one of them)
-Upgrading to Windows Mobile 7 is supported by Xperia panels'
But according to the above screenshot same processor???? Maybe I'm wrong but if the above is implemented then it should be good. design still looks crappy though IMHO....
Great info there. Thanks for sharing it.
By the looks of it... X1 is much better. But in terms of specs if what was stated is true then it'd be great, although I don't think many of us X1 owners now would feel the need to upgrade.
Looking at the keyboard's buttons... is that design supposed to give a better tactile feeling? hmm... I still prefer X1's current keyboard. Took some time to get used to it initially but heck... like it in the end.
Faster processor... well... with all those wonderful cooked roms we have here... guess the difference won't be that much compared to X1.
Oh well.. just my 0.02 opinion. Still love my X1...
With a little improvement from x1, i think almost all the x1 users will stick with their x1 because its not really what you call an upgrade this year.. But if they are saying that you can upgrade the OS to WM 7 we may think about it..
wats up with ur post saying 512mb ram and the phone saying 200(256mb) ram lol
In my opinion X2 really looks cheap. Its like poor sister of X1. I love design of X1.
Btw. check out the Panels button. There is no X anymore. And I would also miss softkeys.
gee...this is the 3rd thread about X2 on the first page already. How many more do we need? lol
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gee...this is the 3rd thread about X2 on the first page already. How many more do we need? lol
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Indeed...
We're now starting to hear about more and more android phones and yet one thing has remained consistent with all of them, Half-VGA screens (480x320). Why is this not changing when we have several phones going as high as WVGA (800x480)? That just seems strange to me.
The Sony Ericsson Xperia X2 (Rachel, as it's called) will have a WVGA (800x480) screen and will run Android.
Software-wise, Android is capable of any framebuffer resolution on any device (hardware and memory resources permitting). It's known to run in 1024x768 on desktop/laptop PC's, too.
HVGA is kinda the sweet spot now. It will make the phone that bit cheaper, let it run just that little bit more smooth, etc...
If you look at the 800x480 phones.. they are the more expensive WinMo phones. Android is ment to deliver more 'cheaper' smartphones.
The Sony Rachel is the weird one in the bunch, so I'm very curious how it works out
I've seen some talk that Cupcake only supported HVGA, which would make me think anything before that did too. Any people know android well and can answer this from a technical standpoint and not just educated guesses?
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I've seen some talk that Cupcake only supported HVGA, which would make me think anything before that did too. Any people know android well and can answer this from a technical standpoint and not just educated guesses?
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Android itself supports basicly any resolution (though I think it has a minimum of 320x240 or something)....
... but there are some / a lot applications (some from the Market, some from Android itself) that expect 320x480 resolution and thus don't use the entire screen area (but work OK none the less).
and the capacative vs resistive screen thing, does that matter? or will Rachael be resistive?
by keeping the system resolution consistent among devices, Google are trying to make it easier for Android developers to develop programs, as one program would run on all android devices.
Think about windows mobile
windows mobile: many devices with lots of different hardware and API's, an app developed with vga in mind wouldnt work very good with with wvga (makes life harder for developers)
so, in theory I would say consistent and similar hardware would make developing applications easier, and one application would run across all android phones.
I suspect that higher resolutions on such a small screen are not particularly well suited unless you have using a stylus, and the Android UI is optimized for touch control.
Regards,
Dave
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The Sony Ericsson Xperia X2 (Rachel, as it's called) will have a WVGA (800x480) screen and will run Android.
Software-wise, Android is capable of any framebuffer resolution on any device (hardware and memory resources permitting). It's known to run in 1024x768 on desktop/laptop PC's, too.
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if rachel is the "X2".....
then whats this?
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The resolution is perfect, as it helps developers to port their iphone apps to android, and develop games and apps for both platforms. thats perfect!
can it be upgraded to 8m say one from a desire hd
I thought that before, and I also searched for another phones cameras. HTC HD2 5M camera and HTC Desire HD 8M camera are almost same. Even pins and shape are the same. You can see them on ebay and decide.
HTC HD2 5MP camera module;
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HTC Desire HD 8MP camera module;
It may change with one another. I only imagine that, but not tried it.
i only ask as mine is in bits atm but Evin if it did fit are they the same driver i wonder
The kernel will have to be modified to support the hardware.
I would be quite interested in this if it was possible, my only downside is not being very technologically minded when it comes to phones. Still something to look into for me!
Funny thing is, this is certainly possible. The question is if someone have time to make drivers work.
i dont think it is possible
driver is the most problem
Is it possible you just need to put some work in
... i would love to try and modify the driver and see if this works
HTC provide good support for hardware removing and you can also add hardware.
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i dont think it is possible
driver is the most problem
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I also think so. That's impossible
should work
Kenneth914 said:
i dont think it is possible
driver is the most problem
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if the pinout and the size fits than in Android it should be possible.
I dont know about any connection standards in the "camera module buisness"
but they dont re-invent the hole thing every new phone model.
So there is a chance it could work.
Anyone knows the size of the camera modules and/or the pinout?
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I also think so. That's impossible
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There is a kind of a rom named (EVERYTHING TO INSTALL ANDROID) (total length is 405 MB).This rom you can only flash via datacable and this rom is fast and have no problems. Also camera do as well. Very nice photo's and pictures and even better than original HTC HD2. Oh btw the rom's name is 'HTC DESIRE HD' from year 2011
I got a Veer laying around doing nothing, but since its pretty small I was thinking about installing AW on it. There were a couple android builds for it an it ran wheel but the small screen made it a pain to use. The problem here is getting AW to work on it.
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It has a snapdragon S2 MSM7230 and 512MB of RAM which is not that far from the Gwatch, maybe I could use a build from that one?. Problem could be the screen which is 320 x 400 pixels, while all the other AW watches have a 1:1 ratio with resolutions of 280x280 or 320x320.
I don't expect the qwerty keyboard to work but I would like the mic and speaker so I can write messages and stuff. I think it had NFC but I don't know if that and cameras are supported by AW yet.
Anyone got a Veer too? you can pick one for next to nothing.
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I got a Veer laying around doing nothing, but since its pretty small I was thinking about installing AW on it. There were a couple android builds for it an it ran wheel but the small screen made it a pain to use. The problem here is getting AW to work on it.
It has a snapdragon S2 MSM7230 and 512MB of RAM which is not that far from the Gwatch, maybe I could use a build from that one?. Problem could be the screen which is 320 x 400 pixels, while all the other AW watches have a 1:1 ratio with resolutions of 280x280 or 320x320.
I don't expect the qwerty keyboard to work but I would like the mic and speaker so I can write messages and stuff. I think it had NFC but I don't know if that and cameras are supported by AW yet.
Anyone got a Veer too? you can pick one for next to nothing.
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I'd be interested on Android Wear on the HP Veer too!
I love my veer from the first sight and If there would be a whatsapp messenger, I would use it forever.
So please, let it happen!!!
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-veer/328606-android-veer-rooted-play-store-etc.html
It appears work has been done to put Android on the Veer. Now, the real question is, how recent a build can we load? 4.4 full only asked for 512MB of RAM, apparently, so the possibility of running Wear is more than likely, given even now, most of the popular Wear watches still use 512 (with only the ones with a mobile radio asking for 768MB).
This is also noting some existing ROMs. There was Quattrimus CyanogenMod 9 which basically got ICS to work on a variety of low-end LG devices, with only 256MB of RAM. So if you can get a source of AW and just work with some of the drivers on the Veer, it should be possible to patch things up and get most everything working.
A few curiosities though...
Does AW require Bluetooth 4.0 LE? Would it be able to use the wi-fi for Cloud Sync? Would AW be able to run low energy enough for the Veer? Is the chipset efficient enough to do it?