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HTC Announces that they are still working on OS update for Hero+Sprint News

HTC on Twitter:
Believe it or not, I STILL can't say anything more about Eclair coming to Hero. Working as fast as we can, promise!
2:18 PM Dec 8th from CoTweet
Sprint Admin via Sprint Community:
We can't acknowledge an upgrade until HTC confirms one - and they're still being coy:
http://twitter.com/htc/status/6476826589
The process is:
Google -->> HTC -->> Sprint -->> You. Google is done, now HTC has to write the SenseUI overlay and test the CDMA radio. Then Sprint has to certify the update and schedule it for release.

It hasn't even gotten to Sprint? I was hoping to have a release before Christmas.

Still, this is great! Even though it hasn't yet gotten to Sprint, something in the works means we WILL be getting an update.
Excellent!

Of course we will be getting the update. We are looking at something close to the Jan 11th release date of the Eris 2.0 update.

Regardless of what Sprint does once the Eris gets it we will get it shortly after. It will be all over these forums without any need for Sprint to pull its thumb from their ass.

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The skip from 1.5 to 2.1 with no 1.6 update concerns me. I predict many bugs. Pray that I'm wrong. That being said, YAY! Gooogle NAV! Finally!

nbkghostly said:
The skip from 1.5 to 2.1 with no 1.6 update concerns me. I predict many bugs. Pray that I'm wrong. That being said, YAY! Gooogle NAV! Finally!
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The whole reason they have a newer version (ex. 2.1) is to fix bugs, right?

The 1.x Android and 2.x Android development lines are VERY different. I don't think skipping 1.6 makes any difference at all. If we were going from 1.5 to 2.0 < notice the 0 there, you'd have more to worry about.
1.x Android didn't have built in support for CDMA that both Sprint and Verizon use, so HTC had to add that code into 1.5 and if they were migrating to 1.6 they'd likely have to adapt the code a bit again.
2.x, since it has the CDMA built in HTC will have to verify that it works properly, tweak the code possibly. Their biggest challenge is going to be the SenseUI add on along with trying not to repeat the problems with SenseUI and other app issues that hit us with the 1.5 release.
Myself, I'm going to wait for the new version to be rooted before loading it on my phone! Patience required...

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Myself, I'm going to wait for the new version to be rooted before loading it on my phone! Patience required...[/QUOTE
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How about: when is HTC release the source for 1.5 for crying out loud!!!!!

I know how this is going to sound...A friend that I work with at Sprint blah blah blah, but here it goes. My friend at Sprint that works with verifing the ROM's for HTC devices has told me that there will be an update for the Sprint Hero in Janurary. It will be 1.6. Not sure about Android 2.0, possibly later on in June.
note...please take this for what you want. Just sharing that I have access to.

dalvarez7 said:
I know how this is going to sound...A friend that I work with at Sprint blah blah blah, but here it goes. My friend at Sprint that works with verifing the ROM's for HTC devices has told me that there will be an update for the Sprint Hero in Janurary. It will be 1.6. Not sure about Android 2.0, possibly later on in June.
note...please take this for what you want. Just sharing that I have access to.
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HTC confirmed there would be no 1.6 for the Hero, your friend doesn't know what he's talking about sorry.

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HTC confirmed there would be no 1.6 for the Hero, your friend doesn't know what he's talking about sorry.
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Sure hope you are right.

Work for Sprint as well. 1.6 isn't gonna happen and 2.1 has no ETA communicated to the stores yet. Won't be installing it until its root safe.

I'm losing my patience with this phone and the company.
I'll be returning mine unless they fix the issues before the date I can return it.
Part of me feels that this is all just a ploy to stop people from returning the phone and that once they have the sales in the bag they will drop support (which they may have already done, for all I know)

cteneyck said:
How about: when is HTC release the source for 1.5 for crying out loud!!!!!
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Would that mean that the bugs would get fixed in a matter of 2-4 days, thanks to the people who visit these boards?

dalvarez7 said:
I know how this is going to sound...A friend that I work with at Sprint blah blah blah, but here it goes. My friend at Sprint that works with verifing the ROM's for HTC devices has told me that there will be an update for the Sprint Hero in Janurary. It will be 1.6. Not sure about Android 2.0, possibly later on in June.
note...please take this for what you want. Just sharing that I have access to.
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...yep sounds like a sprint tech
maybe it's the same guy who told me the processor in the hero was the same one in the iphone...

cteneyck said:
How about: when is HTC release the source for 1.5 for crying out loud!!!!!
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Most of the source is out there....minus the kernel.

Kcarpenter said:
Most of the source is out there....minus the kernel.
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I think you may have this backwards. Only the kernel has been released from HTC and it is available: http://developer.htc.com/ they won't release anything else most likely. The especially won't release SenseUI since it's not GPL. AFAIK only the Linux kernel is GPL and the rest of Android is Apache licensed which means they don't have to release modifications.

Happy to announce Android 2.0 is coming to Sprint’s Hero & Moment. Date TBD, but roughly 1H 2010
http://twitter.com/sprint

Eris 2.1 Leak "Time Bomb"?

So has anyone heard or can confirm any more of this rumor about there being a "Time bomb" in the leaked version of 2.1?? Or is this just someone's doomsday prediction?
Your thoughts?

jearl75 said:
So has anyone heard or can confirm any more of this rumor about there being a "Time bomb" in the leaked version of 2.1?? Or is this just someone's doomsday prediction?
Your thoughts?
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My thoughts? You can't downgrade. Surely there could be a time bomb in place. I don't think there is a time bomb, but maybe HTC will make the official 2.1 one version lower so the bootloader doesn't pass the main version check. That's just why I stayed on 1.5.

Software Upgrade for ERIS wil be 2.0
03-07-2010 01:01 PM
I just talked with HTC today and they confirmed that the new upgrade for the ERIS will be the 2.0..... Not the 2.1 as has been hoped for. It will be offered any day now and can be downloaded off the HTC site or over the air.
Re: Software Upgrade for ERIS wil be 2.0
03-07-2010 03:02 PM - last edited on 03-07-2010 03:05 PM
Ok, I may have opened my mouth just long enough to change feet. I just got off the phone with HTC, and the young lady on the other end ASSURED ME that the Eris release of Android 2.0 would definitely be out by the end of this month. She also said it would subsequently be replaced by 2.1, but couldn't give a timeframe for when that would happen. So, in case you thought the wait was over...think again. Go figure. That 2.1 patch is looking better all the time.
This was posted on the verizon forums, the way it's going we may never get to 2.1, even though they say we will. Ohhh decisions decisions. LOL

jearl75 said:
Software Upgrade for ERIS wil be 2.0
03-07-2010 01:01 PM
I just talked with HTC today and they confirmed that the new upgrade for the ERIS will be the 2.0..... Not the 2.1 as has been hoped for. It will be offered any day now and can be downloaded off the HTC site or over the air.
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03-07-2010 03:02 PM - last edited on 03-07-2010 03:05 PM
Ok, I may have opened my mouth just long enough to change feet. I just got off the phone with HTC, and the young lady on the other end ASSURED ME that the Eris release of Android 2.0 would definitely be out by the end of this month. She also said it would subsequently be replaced by 2.1, but couldn't give a timeframe for when that would happen. So, in case you thought the wait was over...think again. Go figure. That 2.1 patch is looking better all the time.
This was posted on the verizon forums, the way it's going we may never get to 2.1, even though they say we will. Ohhh decisions decisions. LOL
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If this is true there are going to be some very unhappy people on here that wont be able to wait until eris gets rooted.

Don't worry about a bug or virus if you D/Led the first couple of versions of the leaked 2.1 as for any other versions I can't confirm but you can run a MD5 check and there is a result in the 2.1 leak thread that it should match. For the last time we are not getting 2.0. (Well probably not the last but a guy can hope)

t2noob said:
If this is true there are going to be some very unhappy people on here that wont be able to wait until eris gets rooted.
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It's been WELL confirmed that all android devices are moving to 2.1, not 2.0.

Not saying I agree or even believe the posts, just thought it was interesting. It's not saying we won't get 2.1 at all, just delayed. Who knows

Yeah, I have to side with tdavis on this. Think about it: we currently have a release-key-signed, Verizon-branded 2.1 firmware that looks to be pretty close to completion. (Maybe not three-weeks-close, but pretty close!) At this stage, there are very few options that make any business sense involving 2.0. It would mean that the team spent valuable resources bringing the Eris up to an older firmware version, making the Eris the only device in HTC's lineup using 2.0. On top of that, we know that Sense-enabled builds of 2.1 exist on the Bravo, meaning that component of the software is 2.1-ready as well. Barring some kind of internal mismanagement or malfunction at HTC, we will be getting an official 2.1 build.

Apple lawsuit
Does anyone think the lawsuit against HTC will delay the official release of 2.1 or even the Nexus One to Verizon? If it goes to court, Apple could force them to hold the release until the software is "patched".

Most of your Customer Service/Tech Support agents in call centers would not know the difference between 2.0 and 2.1. The build numbers dont matter to most people, 2.0, 2.1... there isn't much perks that I can see right now from having 2.1 over 2.0 anyway...

ihtfp69 said:
Does anyone think the lawsuit against HTC will delay the official release of 2.1 or even the Nexus One to Verizon? If it goes to court, Apple could force them to hold the release until the software is "patched".
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Only if the injunction to stop distribution is successful (10% likelihood?), and even then, we won't see that for months if not years. I don't think it will have much bearing on the N1's march to Verizon.

jearl75 said:
Software Upgrade for ERIS wil be 2.0
03-07-2010 01:01 PM
I just talked with HTC today and they confirmed that the new upgrade for the ERIS will be the 2.0..... Not the 2.1 as has been hoped for. It will be offered any day now and can be downloaded off the HTC site or over the air.
Re: Software Upgrade for ERIS wil be 2.0
03-07-2010 03:02 PM - last edited on 03-07-2010 03:05 PM
Ok, I may have opened my mouth just long enough to change feet. I just got off the phone with HTC, and the young lady on the other end ASSURED ME that the Eris release of Android 2.0 would definitely be out by the end of this month. She also said it would subsequently be replaced by 2.1, but couldn't give a timeframe for when that would happen. So, in case you thought the wait was over...think again. Go figure. That 2.1 patch is looking better all the time.
This was posted on the verizon forums, the way it's going we may never get to 2.1, even though they say we will. Ohhh decisions decisions. LOL
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Unfortunately I can confirm that this is in fact true. I was speaking with one of Verizon Wireless' main testers this past week and said person let it slip that the Eris update will indeed be Android 2.0. Unfortunately I can't give any more details as that friend of mine shut up very quickly after they let that one slip, although I can confirm the 2.0 update will be coming sometime within the month, or as they put it "The update is an extremely high priority that it be released in the very near future."
I got some droid confirmations with that statement, so I know that person isnt bullshitting anything, but at this time that's all I've got.

Dangraef said:
Most of your Customer Service/Tech Support agents in call centers would not know the difference between 2.0 and 2.1. The build numbers dont matter to most people, 2.0, 2.1... there isn't much perks that I can see right now from having 2.1 over 2.0 anyway...
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^^THIS^^
Technically 2.1 is 2.0 right?.. to the untrained eye.
Most people think of it as 2.1 is just an update to 2.0 when really it is more of its own thing than it is an extension of 2.0. So, I could see SOME KIND of confusion being made that it doesn't really matter to someone saying you're getting 2.0, 2.0.1, or 2.1.
I believe it would be much easier if they went the route of naming them against their API level in the SDK to avoid confusion.
In which case 2.1 would be Android 7 and everyone can go "oooh! Should I have Android 7 with my Windows 7 laptop and my 7 Mbps connection with 7 iced coffees in my BMW 7 Series!?!?!?"

sickbox said:
^^THIS^^
Technically 2.1 is 2.0 right?.. to the untrained eye.
Most people think of it as 2.1 is just an update to 2.0 when really it is more of its own thing than it is an extension of 2.0. So, I could see SOME KIND of confusion being made that it doesn't really matter to someone saying you're getting 2.0, 2.0.1, or 2.1.
I believe it would be much easier if they went the route of naming them against their API level in the SDK to avoid confusion.
In which case 2.1 would be Android 7 and everyone can go "oooh! Should I have Android 7 with my Windows 7 laptop and my 7 Mbps connection with 7 iced coffees in my BMW 7 Series!?!?!?"
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They were 100% clear that the build would NOT be 2.1. My guess is that its a modified 2.0.1 build running sense (Which I certainly wouldnt complain about, it'd be easier to port to my droid =P)
Verizon Wireless was having serious problems with Vanilla 2.1 running on the Droid, to the point where they are having trouble finalizing a build in lab because the main testing build has so many problems. All of the issues the Droid got rid of came back in 2.1, GPS/Wifi/Auto-focus/etc. This probably translated over to the build the Eris was using, which is why 2.1 will be an eventuality for you guys, but it seems 2.0/2.0.1 is the near future.

Hey maybe it will be 2.0 or 2.0.1. Maybe we will be able to use M7 or some other exploit that has been patched when we get it.
It may be a step back but it could end up being a step forward also.

Indeed. Just figured I'd give you guys the FYI. The faster you guys get a rooted eris, the faster I have Sense fully working on my droid! =P

It doesnt really matter at this point I have 2.1!

Dangraef said:
It doesnt really matter at this point I have 2.1!
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No no... we all have "2.1"

exactly!!!

Yeah, but what happens if 2.0.1 gets rooted quickly and 2.1 gets pushed to the side? Then you're stuck with a phone you cant return to verizon without telling them you've voided your warranty and no root access that the community enjoys.

Taiwan getting Hero 2.1 in late April.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-on-april-26th-in-home-country-of/
Just from experience, markets across seas always get it first. Does that mean that it will be after April 26th before the Sprint Hero gets the 2.1 update?

i not surprised if this is true with sprint getting the nexus and the powerhouse is being left in the wind

If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...

energizer1389 said:
If this is overseas, this could be 2 or 3 months till the sprint htc hero updates.
I told you to root and flash DamageCotrol v1...
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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.

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Why so pessimistic?? I'm not sure if you guys are right or wrong, but the article DOES say we'd be getting it soon after, why so scared?
Besides...once Taiwan leaks the Hero ROM, won't that be the same as when they release it for our phones? Am I wrong or isn't the overseas Hero the same but with GSM? Shouldn't we be able to perfect the 2.1 ROMs with that? I mean that would be pretty damn close with having the Eris leak as well, I don't know but I just don't see why to be scared and why to not get excited to see the actual overseas leak.
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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.

Because TODAY was our original speculation date.
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Well....
Keyword-Speculation..
Stop speculating and you won't be upset...
It's not like 2.1 is going to bring an all new world, once it comes out we're just going to be inundated with well.. what now threads an hour after everyone updates..
Patience is a virtue...

didn't some self proclaimed "sprint employee" leak that date? (i've been looking, maybe they edited their original post)
But I'm going to take everything I read in the future from such sources with an extra grain of salt on top of the first. In other words... POIDH

A couple sites are saying April 9th (now), because Sprint is apparently issuing some network updates then,
http://phandroid.com/2010/03/25/rumor-sprint-htc-hero-getting-android-2-1-on-april-9th/
We'll see when it gets here

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Because TODAY was our original speculation date. So after seeing this, it appears we have a month or more to wait. The biggest thing is that we havent been given a confirmed date and its getting tense.
Anyway, I just posted this for others to see something new.
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Start running the ROMs and I think you'll chill a lot more. Plus if ANY Hero gets updated, I bet the ROMs will be perfected a little more which is still something to look forward to.
I honestly have been on DC 1.0, and yeah not everything works, but then what will work with 2.1? Will we have LWP? The builds we have may even have more than the 2.1 Sprint will give us. I mean keeping LWP off our phones but on the Nexus still keeps a reason to make us upgrade. Which means we need to hack it

Listen guys, I didnt put any exclamation marks in any of my posts. I was just simply bringing up what I found for some discussion on peoples thoughts. I am currently running Fresh Toast 2.0c and completely happy with it. This isnt to start a battle about how pissed I am, just hadnt seen anyone post this little tid bit.

Sprint 1st said first half of the year, then updated to beginning of 2nd quarter, so between April 1st to May 14th. Want some advice? Stop putting so much stock on the rumors and wait for an official date. Sprint is notorious for terrible communication and missing dates so don't expect 2.1 sooner rather than later.
Yes this pisses me off too but it doesn't do any good getting worked up over rumors proving to be false. Personally, the spreading of rumors are more upsetting than the holdout for Sprint.

Jeez you guys cant read. I never said I was pissed off, I just wanted to discuss the date since there was a confirmed one in Taiwan. Im emailing a mod now to close this. FACK!!

Closed at OP's request.

So I talked to T-Mo Rep

Today, I kept getting random messages from random numbers, so I called in to block, the rep also had a vibrant. So she was like "So... how do you like the vibrant?"
I'm all like "It's sexy"
But it took her so long to solve my problems, so I asked about random stuff like "Do you know when Froyo is coming out?"
She was a pretty "SMART TECH" you don't see those much on help lines now do you?
She replies: Let me check on that for you
and then she came back on and said "it won't be anytime soon, because if it is anytime soon, the tech supports usually knows weeks or months beforehand, but right now, it says 'to be determined'"
SO, do you guys it'll take as long as the rep said?

Unfortunately, this still fell into the same "He Said She Said" category, until we get an official statement, it's all moot. She may be smart but she is still a rep and I doubt she will have access to OTA information. She most likely turned around and asked her best friend/co-worker who is a tech, and he replied that he didn't know anything, and she passes that onto you.

I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?

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I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?
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No, I believe you are pretty optimistic. End of December...well..

same here. I read the same thing in a tech online magazine.. they actually said 2011 but no precise date..
Im running the unofficial TMO froyo posted in this forum though and I like it
Cheers

Personally, I think Samsung should just give up and hand over the kernel source, maybe keep some respect.

The Unoffical Official T-MO Froyo ROM is in the Development section. If that is actually the real thing (and I completely believe it is) I don't see what the delay is for them to just release it.

Even when it does come out, I know for myself that I will keep a custom ROM. Why have stock when you can rock!

I think the point for all of us that are running one of the leaked 2.2 roms is that an official release will have more of the bugs ironed out and it will help with some of the compatibility issues. I for one have tried all flavors and each has a quirk or two. The good thing is that when 2.2 finally drops officially the devs will have almost perfected their roms and it will be easier to implement any changes made by Tmobile.
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I agree with the previous post. I think Samsung leaked the ROM so that the devs here could get their hands on it and make fixes that they then can implement into the official ROM.

So it wouldn't be so embarrasing on Samsung's part? x) Something big like a software update isn't too "easily" leaked. So I do sort of have to agree too.

Android 2.4 coming April; Google Kills 2.3 Gingerbread Update

Check out this article from Android Headlines,
http://androidheadlines.com/2011/02...pril-google-kills-2-3-gingerbread-update.html

Pretty big news no?

Only if your aren't rooted and are waiting on an official gb update. Your wait just got a little longer
Sent from my HTC EVO

Looks like the only change is to make dual core apps compatible with single core phones

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Pretty big unconfirmed rumor at this point but it wouldn't be surprising after what happened with 2.0 and 2.1.

I find that a little concerning, unless the only actual difference relates to single/dual core compatibility. The reason I rolled back from Gingerbread to Froyo was because some of my apps weren't Gingerbread ready. I hope the difference isn't significant enough to cause a gap like this.

That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.

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That's interesting to say the least, not exactly welcome news to hear of google telling phone manufacturers not to update.
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My feeling exactly... i mean why would u do that???

Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.

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Is it really that big of a deal? Seriously we will have before any manufacturer upgrades to it and April is really not that far off. I just feel sorry for the CM team and others that have been endlessly working on GB Roms. I see this upgrade as a good thing and it says some of the elements of Honeycomb will be brought to the 2.4 smartphone version. Why complain if there is nothing you can do about it but wait patiently and be happy you have a great phone. Google, HTC nor Sprint are obligated to update your phone, so just be happy that they do.
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If google tells htc to not update to 2.3, and 2.4 isn't due out till april, then that pretty much guarantees that the Evo will reach it's eol on froyo. It still take a couple months after the updates released for it to be used

With a source like Pocket-lint it has to be "who the hell are they?"
No, really. I've never heard of these guys.

You wanna buy a bridge?
Well I heard they are killing the 2.4 release to solve the multi-screen issues, by releasing Android 2.5 "troufles" in July. So named because of the layers of screen, not shrooms ( did you get that big "G" ? )

And our long wait gets longer.

I'm LoL'ing at people who blindly believe the OP.