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Hi.. just to announce, that I'm making serious efforts to make the iPhone-like musicplaying capability on a Windows Mobile device, I show you now what I have been cooking for a while now..
This is only a proof of concept thing. It won't play any music now. It just shows the possibilities.
I was quite busy in the summer-time, so I had no or little time to develop, but it's going to change.
Anyway, a few things you should know:
- only 240*320 portrait mode (for now)
- .Net Compact Framework is required.
- it's filled with some random data.
- there is a syncing software on the desktop-side, which transfers a playlist from iTunes (not included in this release)
- without cleartype enabled, it's ugly.
- again, it won't play music now!
PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU SOFTRESET YOUR DEVICE AFTER INSTALLING.
FAQ
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Q: Will it have a coverflow-ish cool feature?
A: Yes, there will be.
Q: Will it support landscape mode only screens?
A: Well, landscape mode will be used for the coverflow-ish view. I'm still considerind this.
Q: Will it support smartphones?
A: I hope so.
Q: Will it sync automatically with my computer?
A: Of course it will!
Q: Yeah, but how?
A: You have to select an iTunes playlist then decide whether use the activeSync connection (more convienient but slower) or select a drive, and let the Bridge program on your computer do the rest (less convienient, faster)
Q: Wait, you have to have iTunes to use with this thing?
A: Currently, yes. iTunes offers a great API to work with, so it's very efficient to use. Also, in iTunes, most people has georgeous album art in tracks, and in Lumen, album artwork uses a lot of screen real estate, making it look insanely great. In the future, I'll consider fetching MP3 ID3 data, and so.
To keep yourself up-to-date:
www.petervajda.com/Lumen
Download it from here:
www.petervajda.com/Lumen/Lumen-current.php
is there a video / other for preview?
Without seeing something I donĀ“t want to install.
Same here
Please post some screenshots, either here or on your site (http://www.petervajda.com/Lumen/index.html)
Thanks
I'm quite busy now, but soon, I'll post some screenshots.
I have installed it, wow!!! its awesome looking Its going to replace my
other players when you got it Finished. keep it up
yeah, it sounds great, I like it, pls keep it moving
snotboy32 said:
I have installed it, wow!!! its awesome looking Its going to replace my
other players when you got it Finished. keep it up
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Things I'd like to see with this application (in comparsion with Audio Manager):
1. Integrate with HTC Home music tab - so that it can be controlled via that tab.
2. Possible to turn-off phone/screen while the music keeps on playing (to conserve battery)
3. Lists/plays tracks according to track numbers, not alphabetically (Audio Manager has this problem)
4. Library option - by albums, artisits, genre , etc.
5. .ogg support.
Possible?
EazyVG said:
Things I'd like to see with this application (in comparsion with Audio Manager):
1. Integrate with HTC Home music tab - so that it can be controlled via that tab.
2. Possible to turn-off phone/screen while the music keeps on playing (to conserve battery)
3. Lists/plays tracks according to track numbers, not alphabetically (Audio Manager has this problem)
4. Library option - by albums, artisits, genre , etc.
5. .ogg support.
Possible?
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1. I don't know "HTC Home music tab" and I don't know how to communicate with it, but I'll take a look.
2. It's already implemented in a previous unpublished version.
3. If you go to an artist, and select an album, it'll show it by track numbers if it's given. Any "view" that contains songs from a single album uses this mode.
4. I think it's already in.
5. Well.. i'm using Windows Media Player component, so it plays it if your device already supports it. (I'm looking for a better audio playing solution) So in theory, it can work.
stephano nice works...!
Hope nice programs in the future from u..!
Just tried it out. Nice and cool.
Looking forward to your release. Good job bro!
wow
the second iPhone Media player in two days? I'm really impressed.
Will test soon
EDIT: Great concept, but try to speed it up. Oh, and mine does not play any music. Please fix it
mindless ramblings aside, this looks neat. You made it on to my 'watch-for-further-developments' list.
What to say.... WOW!
Scrolling smoothness is really impressive I must say. Some other developers playing around with iPhone like applications should implement your scrolling routine as it is almost perfect.
I had many problems with selections at beginning, until I realized that, differently from other apps, I had to double-tap , so ppl please DOUBLE TAP'em :-D
You could join efforts with the other guy messing with an iPhone like mediaplayer (His already playing trough WMP features), but I think those 2 are developed in different ways.
Hope anyway to hear news from you soon
I'd love to see what this app looks like, but I Can't since I don't have a WM5 or 6 device. My player and this, are coded in two very different ways, so it would be hard to sort of combine the two, or use his scrolling routine, although from the sounds of it...I'd LOVE TO! I'll be keeping my eyes here though...
In truth I would like to see other developers using YOUR scrolling routine. I truly love it!
Have a nice evening.
spicchio72 said:
In truth I would like to see other developers using YOUR scrolling routine. I truly love it!
Have a nice evening.
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WOW! Thanks!! Really!
Anyway, you don't have to double-tap.. It goes into things with one tap, but I'm working on to make the app realize it much faster. Since it has to mess with databases, then draw the list, it isn't as easy, as you may think.
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Oh, and mine does not play any music. Please fix it
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Would you mind reading the first post? Pretty please
Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.
ksjulsen said:
Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.
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Cool down buddy Your wish will come true. I have a proof-of-concept app built, and it performs quite well. Keep watching this space.
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Hey great app, this is the kinda thing i've been looking for, anyways once you get everything working properly, i have a suggestion for a cool feature, maybe once ur in the player u could have a coverflow type thing where u can flick thru album covers to select songs, srry if i'm asking for too much too soon but i can't contain myself when something this cool comes up.
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You mean like what I've implemented so far?
Greetings.
I just bought me a new HTC touch HD and although overall seem a decent phone,it has some "features" ( or lack of it thereof) that I find awfully annoying to say the list.
Condisering that I am a noob regarding smart phones ( this is my first) I would REALLY appreciate if any guru's here will take the time to answer to my questions,as idiot proof as humanly possible ( I'm a retard... :/)
So here it goes:
1. I syncronized my e-mail account ( hotmail,windows live ) with my PC and that brought in all my e-mail contacts. In addition to that,I also have the phone contacts from my previous phone.
My problem is that now I have TON of contacts of all kind ( whenever I tap the "contacts" key) and I find it VERY annoying that it wont let me decide which contacts I'd like.
I mean,I will only like to see the contacts from my previous phone not ALL 160 e-mail contacts. Further more,I would like to have those contacts in my new HD but if I copy them from the sim card,then I will have ALL the contacts in double.
HD just wont let me "hide" either of them. Solutions if any please?
2. There is a ton of problems with syncing music files via WMP. They keep dissapearing ( shown with a ! in the library) and re-appearing but they wouldnt play etc. This isnt really a problem but I'm sure there are some geniuses out there that fixed that.
3. I would like to determine my own ( at least given the freedom to choose among a list) how my HD should sound like when I get an SMS. Ofcourse,there is ( as far as I can tell) no way in hell I can get anywhere NEAR such settings. Maybe someone could help out ?
4. The enormous clock display.I already read something about installing a 3rd party software but due to several reviews,it's a gamble. Since in some cases it didnt work,other got really slow and others down right screwed their HD's. So I wonder: is there any tweak ( some file that can be modified/erased) to fix this without having to install any additional soft/app?
5.Sometimes when I take my cell off the table ( after being "inactive" for several hours) the clock wont display the correct time ( I have to tap it for it to update to current time) and sometimes the upper half of the display looks as if the graphic card was damaged/smoked. Though as soon as I tap home ( or whatever it turns back to normal. Any ideas? P.S. I have gyrator2 and fingerkeyboard 2 installed)
5. I apologize for the wall of text and my poor english.
I would also like to thank to ALL members here for their absolute amaizing ability to help the community as well as the dev's for their amazing tweaks and app's for our smartphones.
This forum/site is the ABSOLUTE best I have ever seen in terms of help,support,development etc.
You guys are awsome. A big/giant/enormous/gianormous THANK YOU from me and my friends here in Norway. Your site is bookmarked and subscribed to since the first 3 min we found it.
Thank you!
Hi
I can help you out with a few points..
1. I had the same problem not only once...there is a little utility called DupeDeDupe which removes duplicate contact in your phone and is free (as far as I remember)...
There is also another app, which is much much much better - it lets you customize cleaning of your outlook, therefore the name OutlookCleaner...this one is not free though as far as I remember, but there are ways how to obtain software....just google...
use google for everything you need....anywas, I recommend using OutlookCleaner as the results were far more satisfying in my case..
2. I advice never to sync your music...I also do not like listening to music via phone - choice is yours though...I recommend Nitrogen Player instead of WMP...it is very simple yet much quicker, customizable and what not....just google the app, it is definitely here on xda somwhere...dont remember if its free...I never had problems with nitrogen player.. (of course we are talking about audio, not video, right?)
3. Go to settings -> sounds and notifications -> notifications tab -> for event choose Messaging: New text message -> below you have different options to choose from....
4. I dont know what clock you are talking about
5. this might be the manila flip or whatever it is called issue...it is built in in the system so whenever you go home, or wake up your phone, system flips the clock so you can see the epic animation google manila clock flip fix or something like that...you shoud defeintely find the fix here on xda..
Hope I helped you...google if you need anything else
Well,first of all,thank you.
You fixed at least half of my problems
Second,I dont have outlook on my HD. I got hotmail/windows live and that's it.
So...maybe you have alternative solutions.
The SMS alarm tone: fix'd. Thank you! Much to learn I have obviously.
The WMP thingy: downloaded and installed Nitro. Havent tested yet but I'm sure is better than anything else Bill Gates came up with. Again,thank you. How do I unninstall WMP btw?
The clock I'm talking about is the enormous one that covers hald the display. The one with animation you know? I want that GONE if at all possible.
Manila is an app that allows you to tweak your HD. I dont have it installed because there was a sufficient number of forum members that had bad experiences with it,everything from ruining other gadgets on the HD to completely rendering useless.
The vast majority was satisfied but however,the ones that werent were enough to matter. At least to me
So yeah,all in all you helped me a great deal and for that I thank you yet again.
You're a good man
as for the big clock at 'home'..you can flip upwards for the clock to disappear(like how you do scrolling)..hopefully it helps..if that's what you wanted...
amigo81 said:
as for the big clock at 'home'..you can flip upwards for the clock to disappear(like how you do scrolling)..hopefully it helps..if that's what you wanted...
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THAT easy ha? lol,I'm an idiot.
Thank you buddy
So anyone with some help for the rest of my problems?
Btw,Klaxon doesnt work as it should.
I tested it but it didnt ring at all.
Sir_Hannibal said:
So anyone with some help for the rest of my problems?
Btw,Klaxon doesnt work as it should.
I tested it but it didnt ring at all.
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If you are looking for alarm clock, I use G-alarm. Google it
For music. Try cut and paste or drug and drop from your PC to your Phone
Is there a way to stop the "fade in" in the beginning of the ringtone. I do not like it's implementation. It is kind of too fast and the effect is annoying. I see no option for this anywhere.
Seeking how to stop the increasing ringtone too
I also have the same problem (actually not a problem, just dun want it)
I find all the setting in phone but no way out
any suggest?
If you set an mp3 as the ring tone, does it still do it, I don't think mine does :/
yes, I edit a mp3 in PC and copy in i9000 then set as ring-tone, I still behave the same, sad.......
have the same problem
it was on my omnia i900 too. The modding community managed to tweak it away, so its only a matter of time before you can get a small tweak to turn it off.
But I believe that Samsung made this a feature (i read it somewhere long ago) in that sometimes people have just finished a call and the phone is still next to the ear, they might receive another call (with the phone still next to their ear), with the fade in feature, the ringtone wont blast into the persons ear which can cause damage, instead it starts off low volume and then increases, allowing time for the phone to move away from the ear.
hope that made sense
i like it how it is, what is so bad about the volume up per ring?
at most after the 4th ring it goes to voice mail, it doesn't get that annoying
its not really a problem indeed, but I will notice a call when I at street after the ring-tone finish fade-ing, it may be the 2tnd or 3th ring of the person who call in, after I pick the phone out of my bag and looking the information who call in, it may be the 4th or 5th ring then that person may think it is no body to answer or the system make it goes to voicemail............I miss the call...........
AllGamer said:
i like it how it is, what is so bad about the volume up per ring?
at most after the 4th ring it goes to voice mail, it doesn't get that annoying
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Like most things it's called choice. I prefer no increasing ring as well.
I'd like this gone too! The fading ringtone is irritating
This also is a problem to me.
I don't understand why Samsung doesn't make this an option for us to turn the feature on or off, not to mention configurable fade-in time.
The problem is here since, I don't know, i900, perhaps?
I would also like to see this disabled. Hopefully someone will find out how to do it soon!!
Sorry to bump this thread, but I'd really like this problem solved also. Obviously there's no clear option to change this, however does anyone know where we can start looking? (ie. certain config files or similar for rooted users.)
There's still no solution?
any update on this?
have you tried 3rd party ring tones apps
those have its own way of playing sounds when a calls comes in, some replaces the stock features.
try ring extend and ringo plus and many many more
android market is full of it
AllGamer said:
have you tried 3rd party ring tones apps
those have its own way of playing sounds when a calls comes in, some replaces the stock features.
try ring extend and ringo plus and many many more
android market is full of it
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Thanks AllGamer, but I've tried many apps including Rings Extended, Ringo Lite and Zedge, but they just replace the ringtone picker. No matter which app I use, I always get increasing volume for incoming calls.
P.S.: I noticed something funny: I selected a ringtone from DoubleTwist playlist using Rings Extended. When I got an incoming call, I listened to a "hidden ringtone" which is similar to the digital phone ringtone. Probably Rings Extended failed to pick a mp3 from DoubleTwist and my phone used a "fallback ringtone" (such as the Nokia Tune when you remove an sd card with your ringtone). I think it's called "832" but I can't find it anywhere!
Sigh the increasing ringer is pretty lame.
Should be optional.
still no fix huh...
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=759537
Hey all. Coming from a BB 6 months ago I still find new things about the Dinc that I love. Now that I'm rooted and running a custom ROM it's even better, but there is 1 thing that is Annoying the crap out of me. I want a professional sounding ring for when I'm those business environments, but this rings like its on steroids. Why is it that when I select the stock ringtone Standard 1, this thing constantly loops when I have an incoming call. I want something that rings like a normal phone (ring..pause..ring..pause..,etc.). Is there anyway to change that? I don't really want to go find an app to do it for me. I remember seeing a thread that you can go into the menu (## and a few numbers) and change the delay of the first ring, but can you do that to space the rings apart or create a pause? Can anyone help? Thanks.
Try this ringtone. It is a old phone sound but has a blank at the end to achieve what you want
You will need to rename it to .mp3 since I changed it to txt just so I could upload it
Perfect!! thanks on the way NilsP!
If you wanted to do this with another ringtone, use Audacity and add some blank space at the end.
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If you wanted to do this with another ringtone, use Audacity and add some blank space at the end.
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That's actually what I used plus Krystal does a nice job also (guitar player).
I came from a HTC Tilt and a HTC Tilt 2. This phone is just starting to get on my nerves and I just purchased it yesterday. Here are my observations so far.
The screen is really nice.
Transferring contacts and calendar events from Outlook on my computer to the phone shouldn't have been an ordeal, but it was totally frustrating chore. Having to go through Windows Live and use a hotmail(?!!!!) account is just unbelievable. I absolutely miss the active-sync and just moving files from here to there at a whim. As it was I had to export my contacts and import them into Live. For the calendar...well, I'm just creating them manually. That's when I found the bug that you can't have a recurring event every other week or every third week unless you go to the hotmail calendar and edit it manually there.
Using Zune software to move music and video is okay, I guess. Just kind of weird considering dragging and dropping would have been easier.
The music part has no equalizer, which would be really, really handy.
I thought I'd be okay with no Flash or Silverlight, but I'm not.
Not having Bing Maps that has voice navigation is really too bad. I liked it on the Tilt 2. I also miss the direct button for movies.
This phone really needs a dedicated lock button so when watching a movie or listening to music I don't accidentally hit something that causes everything to mess up.
The apps are much more expensive than what is available for other phones. That's really too bad.
Excel doesn't have a file/open option so I can't find or open files I assume were sync'd over by Live (most likely they weren't). MS's response to that? Email it to yourself. Stupid.
No cut and paste, but I knew that going in. No special ring tones, again, I didn't really care about that.
The menus are okay though. Not enough customizations.
Overall, not a really happy experience so far, especially since this OS was supposed to be made for the average person. I think I know a little more than the average person since I modified my Tilt and Tilt 2's registries, but this phone was kicking my butt when it came to syncing. Sad.
Much of what you say is true, but I love my Focus! It will take some time before we see the features of 6.5 make there way to WP7. I guess I like the ease and responsiveness of the WP7. It's definitely the future.
If this isn't for you, I'd wait until the end of this year. Microsoft is releasing a major update that will add a lot of new features and functionality that it's supposed to be like Windows Phone 7.5 (unofficially). Hopefully, a lot of what you point out will be fixed by then.
Thanks. I hope that's true. I'm going to stick it out. I absolutely do like the music feature where some mp3's get album art then suddenly a background. Very cool. I'm assuming transferring through Zune had a lot to do with that.