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TAKEN THE FINAL WALK :) Athena has to go

After much huffing and puffing i have finally put the nail in my ATHENA experience for the past 7 months.
I have really enjoyed using it but it just falls short in a few major areas for me to continue.
1.Its just TOO BIG as a phone, its ok when im sat down but at weekends and evenings its just too annoying to carry about, removing the sim is like surgery so i dont want to do that too often
2. Its just TOO SMALL to be a half decent laptop, The browser sucks and how ever much you dress up WM6 its just Not XP!
3. I dont drive a car so GPS means nothing to me
So my missus has kindly given me her LG viewty upgrade as a early xmas pressie and today i finally won a bid on ebay for a black EEE pc so thats that.
The viewty is a cracking phone and it feels really weird to hold something so small again as a phone.
It can teach the athena a few lessons as well.
1. It plays back DIVX PERFECTLY full screen no jumping out of the BOX! why the athena is so crap at this is beyond me.
2.It streams movies and TV much better via ORB .. NO BUFERING!
3.Its compatable with Mobile TV .. SKY FOOTY for £5 here i come. You can even connect it to a TV like the Athena.
Obviously theres loads it cant do but too be honest i feel like i have dropped a burden carrying that thing about
with me.
If i was a regular driver and would use the GPS i would keep it, i dont really use any of the Office apps either.
So up on EBAY it goes , superlight weight LAP top and almost feather like phone here i come

spacecat said:
After much huffing
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Paint ?
Also, to sum up.. No one cares.
KThxBye.

Your contributions on these forums will be missed despite the idiot who posted the previous wasteful and utterly pointless previous comment.. i am considering a move away too and i have a choice of phones to keep and the sale of my Athena will fund my next purchase just waiting for reviews of the shift to see if i want one or not!!! Enjoy the eee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm thinking of trading in my Athena for a Viewty or N95 8gb, but they don't seem to be going for very much. I'd have to supplement my Athena (or rather, Ameo) about 90quid at Cex to get a Viewty.
How much did you get for your Ameo Spacecat?

I am still using the Ameo for mobile internet at which it is great, as a phone it is useless to be honest so I still use the Artemis for voice related stuff.
What I want next is the Touch Cruse as this has everything to die for as far as I am concerned, I have just got the wife a Touch (elf) and its a great bit of kit, add the extras the Touch Cruse has on board and this has to be the best combo unit going.
I very nearly got the Viewty yesterday, but I found the attraction of the Touch better - all I need to do is teach HID to use it! (this could take some time) - Mike

mikealder said:
I am still using the Ameo for mobile internet at which it is great, as a phone it is useless to be honest so I still use the Artemis for voice related stuff.
What I want next is the Touch Cruse as this has everything to die for as far as I am concerned, I have just got the wife a Touch (elf) and its a great bit of kit, add the extras the Touch Cruse has on board and this has to be the best combo unit going.
I very nearly got the Viewty yesterday, but I found the attraction of the Touch better - all I need to do is teach HID to use it! (this could take some time) - Mike
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Just stuck my Ameo on Ebay!
£298 with the 4-in-1 and a mini keyboard/mouse.
Good price I think.
N95 8GB for me I think!

SupraSkylineSTI said:
Paint ?
Also, to sum up.. No one cares.
KThxBye.
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Your a bit of a **** mate, nevermind one day you may grow one!

SupraSkylineSTI said:
Paint ?
Also, to sum up.. No one cares.
KThxBye.
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i guess a 1 day ban was not enough for u.. maybe u need some more.

SupraSkylineSTI said:
Paint ?
Also, to sum up.. No one cares.
KThxBye.
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I guess you want another ban, lets make it longer, say a week?
if you are rude after this is a permanent one.

Sold my Ameo tonight.
Traded in a DS Lite and some games to get myself a new handset at Cex. This shop is not my ideal choice, but they offer a warranty that lasts a year and covers the phone being blocked (something that Ebay can't do). This turned out to be fortuitous.
I decided I quite like LG Viewtys (after initially deciding I don't). It was either the Viewty or the N95 8GB. Nothing else really holds a candle - sorry Sony Ericsson but you SUCK for web browsing and you DOUBLE SUCK for video recording quality.
I bought one Viewty, tried to make a phone call: blocked. Manager tested device; definitely blocked.
Second device: blocked
Third: blocked.
Unfortunately a man who turned up after me and immediately before I found out MY phone was blocked managed to obtain the ONLY ONE that WASN'T blocked. I cursed under my breath.
I now have £270 worth of CEX vouchers, valid for a year on any product. I wondered if perhaps someone could offer a suggestion of another handset besides the N95 8GB and Viewty which has....
A good browser
HSDPA
Decent camera with VGA movie recording
Those are my only requirements.
Please don't say the standard N95 - I gave the last one away to my fiance so don't wish to buy another.
Thank you

leoni1980 said:
Sold my Ameo tonight.
Traded in a DS Lite and some games to get myself a new handset at Cex. This shop is not my ideal choice, but they offer a warranty that lasts a year and covers the phone being blocked (something that Ebay can't do). This turned out to be fortuitous.
I decided I quite like LG Viewtys (after initially deciding I don't). It was either the Viewty or the N95 8GB. Nothing else really holds a candle - sorry Sony Ericsson but you SUCK for web browsing and you DOUBLE SUCK for video recording quality.
I bought one Viewty, tried to make a phone call: blocked. Manager tested device; definitely blocked.
Second device: blocked
Third: blocked.
Unfortunately a man who turned up after me and immediately before I found out MY phone was blocked managed to obtain the ONLY ONE that WASN'T blocked. I cursed under my breath.
I now have £270 worth of CEX vouchers, valid for a year on any product. I wondered if perhaps someone could offer a suggestion of another handset besides the N95 8GB and Viewty which has....
A good browser
HSDPA
Decent camera with VGA movie recording
Those are my only requirements.
Please don't say the standard N95 - I gave the last one away to my fiance so don't wish to buy another.
Thank you
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how about a polaris? i will be cooking under it so u'll still enjoy me roms there. has everything u want in a thin package except the video recording.

Pawel062 said:
how about a polaris? i will be cooking under it so u'll still enjoy me roms there. has everything u want in a thin package except the video recording.
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yes ive looked at that but it will be a long time before Cex have one of those for me to exchange my vouchers for.
Just out of interest, what is it that prevents the possibilty of hacking Vga 30fps capability into some of the newer windows mobile devices?
Is this capability entirely hardware driven?
Cheers Pawel

leoni1980 said:
yes ive looked at that but it will be a long time before Cex have one of those for me to exchange my vouchers for.
Just out of interest, what is it that prevents the possibilty of hacking Vga 30fps capability into some of the newer windows mobile devices?
Is this capability entirely hardware driven?
Cheers Pawel
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no clue. never done something like that but i have one of the best teams under my belt. no promises but if someone reminds me we'll try to do this once we have our polaris' in hand.

leoni1980 said:
Sold my Ameo tonight.
Traded in a DS Lite and some games to get myself a new handset at Cex. This shop is not my ideal choice, but they offer a warranty that lasts a year and covers the phone being blocked (something that Ebay can't do). This turned out to be fortuitous.
I decided I quite like LG Viewtys (after initially deciding I don't). It was either the Viewty or the N95 8GB. Nothing else really holds a candle - sorry Sony Ericsson but you SUCK for web browsing and you DOUBLE SUCK for video recording quality.
I bought one Viewty, tried to make a phone call: blocked. Manager tested device; definitely blocked.
Second device: blocked
Third: blocked.
Unfortunately a man who turned up after me and immediately before I found out MY phone was blocked managed to obtain the ONLY ONE that WASN'T blocked. I cursed under my breath.
I now have £270 worth of CEX vouchers, valid for a year on any product. I wondered if perhaps someone could offer a suggestion of another handset besides the N95 8GB and Viewty which has....
A good browser
HSDPA
Decent camera with VGA movie recording
Those are my only requirements.
Please don't say the standard N95 - I gave the last one away to my fiance so don't wish to buy another.
Thank you
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wait and a get a viewty, cracking fone

spacecat said:
wait and a get a viewty, cracking fone
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I went for the N95. I know I had one and I know I gave it away to my fiance, but I kind of missed it....
I've just installed the very latest firmware and I'm super impressed. The camera shutter and processing speed is IMPRESSIVELY improved and therefore much more useful than it once was. There's updated maps software, 30% higher battery life and everything just seems great. To be honest I prefer the reassuring tactility of a keypad to touchscreen impact, and for £100 less than the Viewty I don't think I'm missing out on it.
I will say that on second impression I did really like the Viewty, and if it wasn't for a gang of insurance phone blocking scammers operating in derby I would be using one right now, but maybe it does pay to go back to your old club.
I bought a Nokia N800 yesterday on Ebay for no less than 100 quid. Now with the official upgrade release of OS2008 on this device and the fact that the N95 supports SAP, as does the N800 I'm hoping the two will work together and give me a multimedia combination to rock the Athena's socks off.

someone else had the same idea....
http://vaibhavsharma.wordpress.com/2007/11/17/the-perfect-pair/

me too.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just bit the bullet and bought a flybook A33i for a bargain price so my athenas got to go to keep the wife happy might keep the artemis (depends on price i get for athena) to still have a hold on WM and xdas however much i hate the os its a love hate relationship

Got my EEE pc yesterday.
Its actually smaller than i thought it was in the shop.
excellent screen , excellent build quality .. looks like it should cost a lot more.
now to install XP

spzero said:
just bit the bullet and bought a flybook A33i for a bargain price so my athenas got to go to keep the wife happy might keep the artemis (depends on price i get for athena) to still have a hold on WM and xdas however much i hate the os its a love hate relationship
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My dad has a flybook A33i, its nice

spacecat said:
Got my EEE pc yesterday.
Its actually smaller than i thought it was in the shop.
excellent screen , excellent build quality .. looks like it should cost a lot more.
now to install XP
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be sure to register with eeeuser.com for help with setup, patches and mods.

HD2 Shall I Get?????

Afternoon all
I have been reading all the reviews about this amazing phone but have a small concern, I can upgrade/swap provider next month shall i get the HD2 or will someting better come out in say 3-5 months and do you think WM7 will come to the HD2??

No matter what you get, something better will always come along in a few months time. If you worry about that you'll never end up getting anything I'm afraid. I just got the HD2 yesterday on SIM free, having come from the iphone 3G. Have to say, overall I'm impressed with the HD2, probably not quite as polished as the iphone, but you can do a lot more with it. Think of it more in terms of a small laptop rather than a phone.
I've never had a windows mobile before, and I must admit it's taking some time to get my head around it and get things set up, but am getting there now I think. Certainly one of the hardest phones I used in terms of getting it set up right, but then there are so many features and settings. It'll be worth it in the end I'm sure. PLus the guys on here have been a HUGE help. Certainly the best and most useful phone and gadget forum I've been on. There's an answer for just about everything on here.

just buy it, its the best phone experiance i've ever had!

snerkler said:
Think of it more in terms of a small laptop rather than a phone.
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couldn't express it better!
snerkler said:
...It'll be worth it in the end I'm sure. PLus the guys on here have been a HUGE help. Certainly the best and most useful phone and gadget forum I've been on. There's an answer for just about everything on here.
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fully agree on this as well
HD2 does have some bugs but I've never seen a phone / device without bugs. Update to WM 7 has neither been approvid nor declined officially but fact is that from hardware specification is should be able to deal with WM 7.
You need to commit at some point - as usual along the whole life - so either you go for HD2 or you can wait for the next 3 - 5 month and get then your favourite device which will probabely be better than HD2 to some extent but be ensured that only some months after your purchasing you will be facing new devices better than the one you've got.
Cheers,
LEE
p.s after having this great peace of hardware/software for one month, I would go for that today again....

It's a great phone, there's nothing out there yet that I would swap this phone for.

lee1980 said:
Update to WM 7 has neither been approvid nor declined officially but fact is that from hardware specification is should be able to deal with WM 7.
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Not strictly true. I contacted HTC directly who assured me that there will be a free update for windows mobile 7 on the HD2 when it is released. However, they did say that Windows mobile 7 will not be released until towards the end of 2010. Knowing how these things get delayed it'll be more likely early 2011 then

Thanks for all the quick answers my mind is made up will get one when my contract is up and moving to o2 UK
Just one more thing i have a diamond and the battery life if very bad if the HD2 any better i hope so cos can only use it as a mp3 player for about 3hrs then battery is dead

Is it worth holding onto the HD2?

Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"​
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?

Beacause mine is on contract, haha.

I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least untill end of this year.

Another thing is, while it does contain great hardware, no one is optimizing their programs for it. TCPMP is a great all around player that does not take advantage of the HD2 hardware.

my advice would be...if you like or love the phone keep it...a phone is special in its own ways...android/wm7 may or may not come...but something else could come out...and if you love the phone ,the interface shouldnt bother you...

there are many ppl who are trading their nexus one for the hd2 cuz you cant put wm in nexus...all phones are not perfect

Phenomenon said:
Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"​
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?
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If you like the phone for what it is NOW, keep it. If you only have the phone for what you hope it will do in the future, get rid of it now while it's still worth a lot. There will be plenty of devices coming out that will be as good or better for every other OS out there, so go with what OS you want. I personally want a WinMo device, and the HD2 could quite possibly be one of the last great WinMo 6.5 devices made, so I'm quite happy owning it. I don't care if they port android or WP7 to it. It would be great to play with them, but WinMo is my OS for now.

myth1001 said:
I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least until end of this year.
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I had my Desire for a whole day before taking it back and returning to my hd2.. The android os was fantastic but the phones hardware was poor. I.e chassis and screen.. (not the snapdragon) I couldn't live with the screen issues where it makes things that should be grey, pink....
Going to stick with the hd2 for a while now.. If not my original one as I have just chopped it in for a new one. I really look after my devices but now i can compare my original one (received on release) with my new one I have noticed the buttons have really lost there "click" they feel very spongy after 6 months..
Really hoping we seen android on the hd2 soon!

I am keeping mine 100% ... I have been using Android, Symbian and now HD2 and gotta say (recently installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3) and must admit - it is a hardware beast. I am interested to see this phone running dual boot WMN and Android - until then I will play with SPB Mobile Shell... Oh yeah - almost forgot... in next couple of years I'll sel it back home (European country) for bunch of euros and get another good phone of that time lol...

i would like to see webos on the hd2. i bought an hd2 telstra because i can run the apps that i have on my sony x1a and for its larger screen but the hd2 is a humungus beast. i like the form factor of the palm pre plus and may pick one up when it comes out on at&t. i do think wm is kind of a dying breed... especially if wm7 programs will not be backwards compatible.

Impulse
I woke up yesterday morning. Surf to look for a new present for myself (which falls today) and contemplating on Nexus One, iPhone or Milestone (Droid). Saw an advert on Touch HD. Looked at Touch HD2. Contacted the guy selling at 8am and bought it at 10am. Now my HD2 is 1 day old w me.
So far? Its much better than iPhone in terms of smoothness of transition and app (love snapdragon) and image quality. (my bro had the iphone so i compared) Could use a bigger batt. (have been using HP 910c and that has the big battery option at 1940mAh)
My personal opinion. Love it. Its nice.

Would you get new HD2 if yours is broken?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
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Ok, i prefer not to think of that situation though
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
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Hard to say if i get another HD2 as there are many other phones out there with the same spec as an HD2. But if there were not id buy an HD2 in a moment as its a great phone, great screen, excellent call quality, active rom creating community for upgraded / custom roms .. Yeah it is a great device and id give it some thought if id have to purchase a new one ..
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
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Probably id get a DroidX when it arrives. It has a similar spec and screen size as the HD2 and looks very nice .. Id be able to surf the web no probs on that device which is the primary reason i bought the HD2, so for me any device that has a large screen for web surfing and allows me to make a call once in a while would do me fine .. Hey would the 5" Dell Streak be too big for the pocket, hmm id give that one some thought too

Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.

I love my leo too, buti'll buy a droidX if I have to change quicker.

I like it, but prefer android based OS.
So if I could get as big a screen with TMOUSA, then I would change.

I'll wait for HD3

no, I will never buy such device.
Why? read my posts, there and then on this forum, including compete list of what's very wrong with it.
In short:
-poor support
-poor amount of updates, actually over because HTC discontinued the device
-official rom suck and is buggy
-HTC's philosophy to attack the one making roms
-Stupid design (sound, power button on the front, etc...)
Etc...
Also, I look competition and I see new Motorolla X, and I'm tempted to say: wow.
I heard feedback from people with droid and they did not have to wait custom roms to say "it works"...

If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.

Well, I ran into such a situation. My HD2 was not recognizing any sim card 50% of the time. And when it did, it only lasted for a short while. After trying all non invasive fixes, I decided to "operate" on it, taking it down to the screen. Still couldnt get it right. So I bought another one. I think it is a great phone for what I use it for. And, now I have a parts phone!

interesting question
Currently happned to me something similar. Phone has fallen out of my pocket on the ground, it was only 50-60cm, but screen is broken like if someone throw it against a bricked wall.
It will cost me at least 150EUR, bad luck. They do not repair only glass because is stick together with display and removing can break it.
I saw it at some thread ,that this is more problem of the hole around hw keys at the bottom. So basicly the design of the front panel, when phone is falling at bottom side.
But if it will be destroyed completely, I am not sure, but probably I will buy something else:
- phone itself is almost 9 months old, there are or shortly will be better phones
- there are still bugs after almost a year, and if they are solved they are not available for customers, for example official region version differencies
- is good that somewhere at forum is ROM which helps with battery consumption in standby mode, but you are not able to use it, basicly you are forced to break waranty otherwise you will be keep on usatisfied with device and forced to wait for official version for your region and wait and etc.
I like this device, but I am not blind to see weak points of the device or company policy, so it is almost 50-50 but time is ticking and competition will bring us better phones soon, I am optimist

If that happened tomorrow, Id get a HTC Desire.
If it happened just before the Nokia E5 is released, Id go buy a cheapo phone to tide me over till E5's release.

HD2s are really cheap now on ebay, and I have a pretty fair library built up already so chances are good I'd pick up another one. Although it's equally likely I'd get a big Dell Streak. I mean have you seen the thing? Its keyboard has a numeric keypad!!!

If I absolutely needed a phone immediately, it would be a toss up between another HD2 or iPhone 4. Android on the HD2 seems closer every day so having that option would be nice - but I've got WinMo exactly how I like it and I don't mind it at all. Further, lets face it, the 4.3" screen size is just spoiling. I wouldn't switch for an Evo, and the DroidX is just TOO big.
If I could wait a few months, I'd look for a HD3 / other WP7 device... or an iPhone 4.

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If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
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but doesn't that run plutonium

nope, i want to move to the other platform
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0% chance that i will buy blackberry
5% chance: that i will buy iphone 4
15% chance that i will buy n900
25% chance that i will buy the nokia n8
10% chance that i will buy the meego device
45% chance that i will buy the android device

Pagnell said:
Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
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Ditto, Desire all the way. I am looking into Android a little more lately, I most probably won't, but I am trying to persuade myself to buy one.

I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else.
Having said that it would be a close call i am due an upgrade on one of my contracts and was looking yesterday on the vodafone site, jeepers have you seen the prices on the Iphone 4's, flipping eck even if i wanted one i wouldn't get one, thats one expensive phone...
And having had a look around i've decided to stay with my HD2 for a while until something else comes out...

"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.

Android is the future
I know that hurts, especially all of us that have HD2(Windows mobile), but Android based devices are future. So probably if I broke my phone(I hope not), I will buy EVO or Desire. But I want to point out, i will never buy iPhone 4.

Spacechimp said:
"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
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Well, after reading all the previous posts, I was almost convinced to change to Droids, but reading your post, and the fact that you had TYTNII like i did, and you tried Droid for a year, i am sure you have a good point that droids are goo for social networking (showing off) and WM is good for business, and business is what i need.
but reading other posts and looking at my past 4 years experience in HTC, i am more than convinced that HTC company sucks, so i will try to find a better WM device from another company, but i am not sure if there is any

Bye, bye X2!

I got tired of my X2, of its software as well as hardware flaws, crappy camera, absent USB storage mode, green-tinted and too small screen, underpowered CPU etc. And I don't believe SE is able and even willing to fix all related problems, so I got rid of the phone.
As my main phone I'll still use old HTC Kaiser and as as secondary borrowed SE Satio (which can't be used as primary, because of crappy UI and the problem of sometimes resetting itself).
Maybe in future I'll buy an old X2 to play with it, because I still have a weak spot for WM for being possible to tweak it extensively

Best decision ever made.

looks like alot of people are jumping ship on this overpriced brick, and ill be one of them as soon as i can get my hands on an iPhone 4

BRAIN_STEW said:
looks like alot of people are jumping ship on this overpriced brick, and ill be one of them as soon as i can get my hands on an iPhone 4
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I wish you luck guys!
I'm staying.

Well, the X2 has been a crappy downgrade for me as well after the Diamond. I guess atm I cant afford to purchase the HD2 else that'd be my first choice.
By some weird twist of fate (or maybe cos its just crap) the X2 is cheaper than the HD2, but one of the dumbest decisions I've ever made to go for it.

Im thinking very seriously to switch to the X10... the x2 its a very bad experience

doministry said:
I wish you luck guys!
I'm staying.
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there are only two ways that i will stay with the X2
1) SE pull there finger out and give us a phone that is fully functional or at least 90% functional
2) HardSPL comes around and either a functional winmo 6.5 rom or Android rom is created
i dont feel happy about putting the X2 on ebay for some other poor sole to put up with this expensive brick