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Some of you people may find this gayish but I am worried about how "scratchable" is the screen?
Ok, I can live with the fingerprints, simply wiping the device from time to time, but having some scratches on that marwellous screen would be a real disaster.
So far I can rank some devicer in terms of hardness of their screens' plastic:
1) iPhone (some kind of glass or smth.. hard to scratch)
2) HTC Diamond / PRO (plastic, but pretty hard though)
3) SE Xperia X1 (plastic, but i get the feeling of nearly scratching it with my nails)
So, where would you guys think the Touch HD would be?
PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant.
Thank you.
anyone?........
gayish...???
gayish...??? what is that???
Not sure how you can expect accurate feedback on this (i.e actual resistance to scrathing rather than just a feeling) without someone actually testing it (possibly accidently) on thier lovely new gadget
Also:
"PS: while answering, please omit alternatives of using screen protection film. Looks ugly and the efects a very manufacturer-dependant."
To be honest, a well designed and well applied screen protector is practically invisible (imho). Particularly with flush devices, since you don't get the edge around the recess.
I just applied one to the wife's iPhone a couple of months back and she did not even notice it. But she also dropped the phone the other day and I think it's time to order a new protector. Perhaps the screen would have survived scratch free, but I'd rather not take that chance
Zuber
Just my thoughts, Zuber.
A good screen protector, applied carefully, with patience! is a great thing! I use the Javoedge screen protectors and they are excellent. Doesnt even feel as if its there!
Just put one on my wife's iPhone yesterday, and there is no difference between using the device with the screen protector, and its not looking one bit different to "without" it.
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
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I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
Dont' have a lab that can do experiment and tell you the hardness....but one thing for sure, HTC screen is scratch resistant. Had it for 6months, kept my screen sparkling clean all the time by cleaning it with microfibre cloth everyday. Till now, not a single scratch can be seen...happy with it!
Was in a Mac shop once, the iPhone sales person demonstrated the hardness of iPhone sceen by scratching with a pair of Scissors. Any dude dare try this on THD???
All that I've done so far is to take a coin and scratch a THD dummy display set in the shop. Absolutely no issue.....and I believe the dummy screen is the same as the real device.
mlekas said:
I scratched my screen after about a week. Best I can figure is it was on a metal rivet in my jeans just above my pocket... the scratch drives me crazy. I bought a replacement screen cover for about $20 and I'm waiting for the weekend to install it. There are many examples of these on ebay, here is one.
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Ouch! I'm very careful when placing my THD in pocket....may not be the same the next time I take it out!
try the zagg invisible shield..looks amazing and of good price. I am ordering one right now!
georgegeneva said:
I've tried the GadgetShieldz for my HTC Touch HD and it's really good, it installs quite fast and I paid $13.50 for two units. I will be testing my keys on it later today. Check it out:
http://www.gadgetshieldz.com/smartphones-pda.html
Nails will definitely not dent it!
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hey,
seems you applied the GadgetShieldz on your HD. how it looks, is it scratch free?
regards
Zagg
I just bought my wife an iphone (2nd hand) which came with a Zagg shield (the whole phone not just the screen). Amazing stuff, seems unscratchable. The only thing with the full body shield is that it is impossible to get on 100% perfectly.....still....it's staying on and after a year (that's how old the phone is) the shield doesn't have a mark on it. There's a youtube video of someone scratching an iphone up with a set of keys and then attempting the same on one with a shield. Check it out...I was impressed.
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
Wow, now that's hard glass...no screen saver needed for me.
I felt literally sick after watching that
Waouh ! no screen protector for me too !
Yikes, but boy are those camera pictures crap, why did they put that pile of ****e in it. What a let down.
Finally
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Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
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I was keeping asking this question in all forums and finally you brought me THE answer in video...
Thanks so much
Watta device
you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
I guarantee you however hard it is, there will be marks on that screen, even if superficial.
diablous said:
you can see the screen scratching with the scissors.
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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No that's not scratches but a mark made by fat left by the fingers. He cleans the screen after and no more mark...
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Personally i'm seeing a smudge over where he was scratching, without cleaning the screen no conclusive information can be taken from this.
Well, he says there are no scratches left, for what it's worth. I would trust his opinion in this case rather than impressions from the video.
well even if their was scratches on teh scree from SISSORS it is still impressive. i mena come on, the guy was trying to scratch the screen and it diddnt.
what it doesnt show on the video is the amount of pressure he applied though.
I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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I'm sure you can scratch it, picking the right tools and the right pressure. But I think it's rather safe to assume that it's scratch resistant enough to keep the phone in your pocket without any shields.
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agreed, i think the point behind the entire "scratch proof" is to prove that placing it in your pocket without a screen protector will not have it coming out looking like a touch HD 1 This is great news in my humble opinion!!
not sure what is so bad of putting a screen protector, really? I won't take a risk at all to have a permanent scratch on my device!
Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
that was stressful watchin that The poor TD2
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Well, because I hate doing things like applying those damned protectors; because those protectors get scratched fairly easily and your device starts looking like crap; because I can never apply them accurately enough so that they don't have bubbles underneath.
I hate them with a passion, really. I even wanted to by an iPhone because of this. When I first heard about capacitive screen on the Leo I didn't give a damn about multi-touch (and I still don't care much about it). My hope was that HTC would use a glass screen surface. Now I'm happy. The screen is scratch resistant; if I still manage to put a scratch on it, I'll have it replaced - it's not that expensive.
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agree 100% with u, man i loved those iPhone screens, i could care less about the multi touch, i mean great, but if my HD 1 would have that screen, i'd be more than happy using it for a good more couple of months!
Really impressive, thanks for sharing
Ah c'mon! Some of you guys arguing about whether it scratched with scissors, ffs a car windscreen will scratch with scissors!! It very scratch resistant, i'm very impressed. Christ I wouldn't be surprised if some of you started complaining it's not dishwasher proof, jeez...
vangrieg said:
Here you go - if you scroll down to the first video on the page you'll see how they scratch HD2's screen with keys, a knife and scissors - and none of these leave any traces on the screen.
Warning: This is not for the faint of heart. Unless you are used to eating babies for breakfast you may be better off not watching this brutal torture video. Here's a quick test to check if you're ready:
1. Do you plan to start using an electric vehicle to help stop global warming?
2. Do you consider your personal contribution to the cause of Free Tibet insufficient?
3. Did you ever believe a politician?
If you answer "yes" to any of the questions above, this thread might be better for you.
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it seems like not a reliable test to me, the reviewers seems using light pressure doing the test. And I really don't believe that any phone in the market can be really scratch resistant. Why taking the risk. In real world usages, there are many things can scratch glass surface very easily, and why leave some permanent scratches to the expensive device? What is so wrong with a screen protector?
ive been using a screen protecter 6for 6 monthsi decided to take it off cuz it was annoying and the screen looked sweaty, ive been using it for a month without any scratches do u think i should get a new 1 i like the feeling of the glass screen when i tap on it.
there is a need. because with the protector, you do not have to worry about keeping the screen scratch free.
Anything with a screen and no protector will eventually get scratched and ugly. Rather have it protected than unprotected. Also if it looks sweaty, it might be that you didn't apply the protector properly or you had something in it during the process...
I agree... get it... it might look seaty because it was not put on right.. or it is gettign oils off of you skin and you are nto cleanign ti regularly enough.. it happens to everyone...
As far as not needing on yet.... that is always the case.. you don't need one, untill it is too late.. eitehr it slips out of your hands onto bricks or concreat.. it catches a corner somewhere, etc... it can help...
I lost the stylus on my device almost a year ago, and I have been using pens, paper clips, toothpicks and anything else I can get my hands on as a "stylus". This phone goes everywhere with me, and unfortunately it's been a little abused! Needless to say, there is only a tiny scratch in the lower corner of the screen! It's very durable!
If you get a good screen protector & fit it correctly to a good & clean screen you will be hard pushed to know it is there.
Problem is finding good screen protectors but well worth the effort to use them.
It is so easy to scratch the screen or get stains on it, with a screen protector on mine I can grab the phone & tap the screen even if my fingers are a bit mucky & not worry if the kids want to play a game on it ect.
Well worth having if you keep your devices for a while & want to retain good resale value.
The ink in the notes apps tends to jump all over the screen, and after testing the angles, different styli and several similar applications I found that it was dirt/oil, whatever found it's way on the screen! I guess an investment in a couple new stylus and a screen protector are in order to avoid the most expensive, loved brick ever!
hi all,
i just acquired an hd2(yey!) and im just wondering if the screen is scratch proof. it did not come with any screen protector and we dont have it available yet in our country. so im a little jumpy regarding the screen. so is it scratch proof/resistant? can i not put any screen protector on it?
thanks!
Isn't it glass like the iPhone? Nothing short of metal keys will scratch the screen I believe. I don't bother using a screen protector on my ipod touch and there's no scratches but my friend's keys scratched his to hell and back.
true that it is glass. im just tad worried in wiping the screen with a cloth or something. i have an ipod touch with a screen protector. really it does not get scratched? i keep my phones and itouch AWAY from anything metal.
thanks!
You may cry or feel sick to your stomach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s
My perspective:
It's a touch screen. It is designed to be touched with fingertips. Nothing sharper than your finger should ever need to contact it.
1) Buy a micro-fiber cloth to clean it and 2) always carry the HD2 in the very nice included leather case when not in use.
Wipe it down with the micro-fiber cloth when necessary to remove smudges, and with just a little very basic care, scratches should not be an issue.
I wouldn't take it to the beach and body surf on it, but it is pretty resistant to scratches, in my experience. I highly doubt you'll ever get a scratch if you follow simple common sense principles of use like the one's I described above.
What Donalgodon said. Keep it away from keys and don't mistake your cleaning cloth with sand paper and you'll be golden.
so is it scratch proof? my package did not have any screen protector. i asked htc and they dont know. i have to call them back after 2 hrs... tsk tsk
orouborus said:
so is it scratch proof? my package did not have any screen protector. i asked htc and they dont know. i have to call them back after 2 hrs... tsk tsk
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Nothing is totally scratch proof, but in all honesty and sincerity, I do not think any reasonable person who exercises any level of due diligence in using their HD2 needs a screen protector, or any other kind of super deluxe, super shell kryptonite diamond laser embossed anal-retentive vault to carry it around in.
It's a tool. Use it. If you are too worried about it, then you should find something you can live with (or without) if something happened to it.
I don't mean that to sound flippant, I am just trying to inject a little perspective, because it is easy to get carried away thinking that it needs to be treated like a Faberge egg.
It's scratch resistant. Under normal operating use, you shouldn't be able to scratch it really. I doubt anything is "scratch proof".
thanks for the reply everyone. im just so excited in playng with the pone due to its screen but i am very hesitant in doing so. ive had a number of htc devices and all came with screen protector. this is the first one i got so im quite hesitant touching and wiping the screen.
leather case rocks!
I totally sympathize with you. I made the mistake of not putting a screen protector on a Touch Pro and I have always regretted it. But that screen was made from flismy plastic, this one is glass.
donalgodon said:
Nothing is totally scratch proof, but in all honesty and sincerity, I do not think any reasonable person who exercises any level of due diligence in using their HD2 needs a screen protector, or any other kind of super deluxe, super shell kryptonite diamond laser embossed anal-retentive vault to carry it around in.
It's a tool. Use it. If you are too worried about it, then you should find something you can live with (or without) if something happened to it.
I don't mean that to sound flippant, I am just trying to inject a little perspective, because it is easy to get carried away thinking that it needs to be treated like a Faberge egg.
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true true.
due care should be there but functionality should be maximized. its a good thing that it is scratch resistant.
See the Vikuiti range of screen protectors for the HD2 - best on the market imho.
As a new user I'm not allowed to post the url - so google Vikuiti
donalgodon said:
Nothing is totally scratch proof, but in all honesty and sincerity, I do not think any reasonable person who exercises any level of due diligence in using their HD2 needs a screen protector, or any other kind of super deluxe, super shell kryptonite diamond laser embossed anal-retentive vault to carry it around in.
It's a tool. Use it. If you are too worried about it, then you should find something you can live with (or without) if something happened to it.
I don't mean that to sound flippant, I am just trying to inject a little perspective, because it is easy to get carried away thinking that it needs to be treated like a Faberge egg.
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Solid Gold. LMFAO
sreen protectors on ebay
orouborus said:
hi all,
i just acquired an hd2(yey!) and im just wondering if the screen is scratch proof. it did not come with any screen protector and we dont have it available yet in our country. so im a little jumpy regarding the screen. so is it scratch proof/resistant? can i not put any screen protector on it?
thanks!
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i was the same till i got a screen protector, they available on ebay and cheap,
You have a phone thats worth almost up to the price of £500, buy a £10 screen protector
Its one of those sods laws, you can watch that scratch video and see it with stand it all, BUT it always happens when you ARE being careful
i guess ill try to purchase one as soon as it becomes available. i think we dont have it yet and the screen protector usually comes with a silicone case or something.
The screen does scratch...
Get a screen protector, I wish I did.
MalekoUK said:
You have a phone thats worth almost up to the price of £500, buy a £10 screen protector
Its one of those sods laws, you can watch that scratch video and see it with stand it all, BUT it always happens when you ARE being careful
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Agreed, get a GOOD screen protector like Vikuiti (I bought mine on ebay for £8.50) and take the time to apply it properly. You'll hardly know it's there and avoid many tears.
orouborus said:
i guess ill try to purchase one as soon as it becomes available. i think we dont have it yet and the screen protector usually comes with a silicone case or something.
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Whilst some argue it doeesnt need it or why bother if you are that padentic over it, at the end of the day they are a few $ on ebay so why on earth wouldnt you put one on. its so easy to do and does offer more protection so for such a cheap price delivered straigth to your door, i dont see you would want to think about it.
Just be warned some are not as good quality as others and can look ugly as it doesnt stick properly. Ive got one on from Ebay, you wouldnt even know its there.
Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off
It's a very tough screen, mine is still in mint condition w/o a screen protector, but I never leave any sharp objects such as keys in the same pocket as my phone either.
No scratch at all, looks like new... (other than the rest of the device).
And I never used any "protective" thingies.
Cambxo said:
Hey was wondering how is the screen holding up. Do you guys having any scratches on them or anything? I'm debating on whether to take mine off
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I've had my HD2 for 14 months and there are no scratches on it at all. When I first got it I saw the well known youtube vid of a guy trying to scratch his HD2 screen and failing. One night I was drunk and decided to show this to a mate, so I took a bottle cap and went to work with my screen, as hard as I could! We were both very impressed at the results (or lack of), but I noticed not long after that you could see where I had scratched it when I'd run my finger over it. If I wiped it clean then you couldn't see it at all. It was VERY feint, but it was there when smudged.
However, it's now 100% disappeared, even after major use.
I used to have a screen protector, but no longer bother. It's obviously always recommended not to put your phone in your pocket with keys & loose change etc., but this screen is THE BEST screen I've ever had on a phone.
I think it only needs a minimum of common sense and it will live for a looooooooooooong time!
Took mine off month ago, and very happy I did. It did nothing but lessen screen sensitivity and slightly dull viewing.
The glass on the screen can't withstand every stracth known to man, but it's pretty tough. Usually, the people with really messed up glass dropped theirs and the glass BROKE.
Here's the scratch test video and here's another thread about this where others share their thoughts and experiences.
I have just avoided putting in the same pocket as my keys, so far so good.
Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
dung8604 said:
Wow that's pretty cool. I think I'm still going to keep one on though. To me its sort of like insurance. I may not need it often, but when I do, I sure will be glad I have it!
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AHHH!!! They really need to move that damn thanks button, but thanks for that
To be honest, if it gives you peace of mind and doesn't have an adverse effect (sensitivity & brightness mainly) then yeah, keep it on.
I have my HD2 about 1,5 years now, and the screen didn't have a scratch at all. Unfortunately the back plate loses it clear finish, but that's acceptable.
Almost a year and no scratches whatsoever. I do keep it in a case whenever I am carrying it around, though. The only wear I can see at all are some indentations in the material on the top right corner of the handset.
Hi,
Got a cover, no scratch at all, like many people, i don't mix keys/smartphone screen, the best way to damage it !
almost a year and no scratch at all. I must say I guard it with my life.
it never leaves my sight and is always in it's original leather pocket.
I had a HTC Touch Cruise before and it was a plastic restitve touchscreen.
Even that thing was okay and usable after 3 years... It had many deep scratches but with backlight on you only saw them a bit and it wasnt a problem for the usability
The screen of the hd2 really needs some effort to get scratched. In my opinion a screen protector is useless, because the power that is needet to scratch this screen would easily cut the protector
But i also use the barely there case, to avoid scratches on the housing (put some tape on the corners to avoid damage from case on/off). The screen protector that was with this case gives me a better feeling on the touchscreen, its easier to glide ^^ and i dont have so many fingerprints
^^^
Fingerprints can be easily removed, you know
Mine is over 9 months old, still as good as new .
My secret is "The Magical Original Leather Pouch"
It never gets out of it, unless I want to use it
Is the camera lens cover made from the same material? Does it resist scratches as well as the screen?
I also don't use a screen protector. My phone is kept in a leather belt pouch, but is handled delicately (partially because it is expensive and partially because it is such a beautiful phone).
Got my TMOUS HD2 when they first came out, and screen is still perfect. I do keep it in a pocket by itself though, so no contact with keys or change.
Ive had mine around 14 months now, never used a protector and there's no problems at all with my screen. This is even after I stopped using the leather pouch a few months ago after getting an extended battery and even after dropping the phone a few times!
Almost one year without screen-protector and without case.
Not only one scratch on the screen.
I have two scratches on the screen, but you have to make effort to see them.
I took it to a sandy beach to read books every day all summer long, no protection whatsoever.
It's a great phone.