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Hi guys, i am currently trying to set up my Athena with my car, i wonder if it's possible to connect my Athena with a external touch screen monitor like this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-INCH-TOUCH-...9QQihZ005QQcategoryZ32826QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
throw the VGA cable.
I know it will display the screen throw VGA out, but I am not sure whether it will enable the touch screen function, any of you know this?
Thanks a lot
p.s. I will post some screen shot if I succeed in this project.
Is that a PS2 port?
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
inframan said:
Seems to me the key question is how would it get positioning info back to the ameo? That looks like a PS2 port on the non-vga cable. IF it was sending back mouse positioning info AND a simple ps2 to USB converter would work then I'd guess it MIGHT work with the mouse drivers i've seen discussed elsewhere. There is a fair few conditions to meet but mostly at a low level by the look of things. Not much info to go on and also it loks like they are using a pen of some kind there. That makes it less useful I think?
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I am sure you don't need a pen, there are lots of touch screen out there, for example this one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget
I just don't know if we simply plug in the vga cable from our Athena to the touch screen, will that work?
Possibility not, I can kind of see a usb cable there, how about plug that in the usb host ? but then maybe we still need to install the driver.....
Basically, what I am trying to do here to use get a bigger screen to show for Athena in a car. So, I will then have much bigger TOMTOM, and also can watch movie or go on internet.
Any good suggestion guys? Thanks a lot for all your help.
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
johnwalk said:
I cant see any specks on that, but i did find another that said it was usb, if thats the case theres no reason why it shouldnt work.
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it seems like they all need to install driver, do you think it will work without driver?
thats the only problem, does it need specialist drivers? I havnt been able to come up with an answer yet.
But i wont be buying one for the car, somone nicked me vario yesterday from the car so not even chancing the Ameo.
I was just going to buy a little 7" tv I bought this tiny Keyboard out of Maplin on offer. thought it would look sweet in the car. but this is giving me other ideas, anybody shed light!
They ALL need specialist drivers.
Touchscreen is absolute position, mouse is relative. You NEED the custom driver. It may be possible, but I dont know how.
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
Basmelek said:
1. I think on the Pic is a S-Video cable not PS2.
(The specs say nothing about PS2)
2. Till now i just saw Touchscreens with USB and like Profer said they all
need secial drivers.
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Thanks for your answer, i just ask one of the seller there on ebay, and the answer I got is I will be able to plug the VGA cable in, that will enable the screen to display, but in order to get the touch screen working, I also need to plug in a USB, so now the question is whether the USB host will work on this....and of course the driver need to work too
The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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The 4in1 cable should allow the USB to connect, but you would have to convince 3m or somebody (make most of the drivers) to write a PPC driver.
As almost ALL ppc's are touchscreen, they probably wouldnt bother for the 1 customer that wants it
If you know a coding guru who understands USB, then get them to do it for you. Either way, I doubt its gonna happen.
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Your on the right track with this answer,
Look for a touch screen that has a protocol that is treated as a standard HID ( Human interface device ) Ie:mouse, keyboard etc.etc.
if you can find such a device then the built in drivers for plug and play HID's will work fine.
otherwise the rest are right
Did this really work??? What car? This would simply be quite fantabulous.
cyberlancer said:
Hi, everybody.
Don't know how many of u are interested in this issue, but anyway:
1. just grab the generic touch screen driver for win ce 5.0 from the usual site.
2. Copy 'n paste the UsbTouch.dll file into windows root directory of the X7500.
3. Plug the video cable (the one with usb connector).
4. Plug the xenarc TS usb cable in the abovementioned cable.
5. Wait for the dialogue box asking for the driver to be used with the unknown device.
6. Write the name of the .dll file copied into the device.
7. Press ok.
et voilà, les jeux sont fait! It woks perfectly, without even the need for calibration.
This is (even if it lacks some of the fun of setting up a carputer from scratch) the ultimate carputer, perfect integration among all application and real time (quite) OS.
Cheers.
Cyberlancer.
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On WM5 has anyone been able to access USB devices like printer, Pendrive etc directly? Would be great to be able to print directly or access files from a USB memory stick.
Have heard of HP printer drivers for older versions of windows CE somewhere...
Using a usb device on the phone.
I know of no WM5 or WM6 phone for that matter that have a usb STACK on them that would allow them to use a usb device. They are designed to BE a usb device for a pc...not the other way around.
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I know of no WM5 or WM6 phone for that matter that have a usb STACK on them that would allow them to use a usb device. They are designed to BE a usb device for a pc...not the other way around.
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i think you are mistaken.. there are a couple new WM5 and/or 6 devices that have USB hosting support.. among them is the Athena, O2 Flame, and toshiba g900, and those WM devices exclusive from/for japan..
Yeah, it is the other device that must be able to read the PPC.
My stereo read my Tytn as a storage device. Can play music directly from the PPC. However it is the Stereo doing the recognizing job. Not the other way around.
I'd just like to clarify a few things:
1) USB has two sides - host and client and they are different by hardware and not just software so there is no "able" question here.
2) In cases like memory stick, printer etc. when your device uses what is connected to it, the phone must act as host. The reason there are few devices with USB host is mainly because to be fully implemented this standard must provide up to 500 mA current to the hosted device and of course thats a bug problem when working on battery.
(Any phone that does implement it, provides it "unpowered" so not all devices will work)
3) In cases where something is using your device like the stereo, the phone acts as a client so with the right piece of software (like WM5Storage) any phone can be used.
The fujitsu Pocket LOOX T810/830 can act as a USB hub.
Some devices have this capability but not a feature that is common.
Sam.
I'm really unqualified to discuss this in great detail, but why I got there was - I've read somewhere in these forums about Win95 emulators for ppc devices. Now if it could be possible to "emulate" just the USB stack portion of Win95, maybe, the ppc could be connected to devices like printers which would not require a powered USB connection.
That's all ...
Atul
emulating an os dont add new features to the hardware though
The Xperia doesn't have host capabilities, but is it possible to get such functions with suitable drivers? Such drivers are discussed in this thread:
http://forum.ppcwarez.org/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=58813
As you can see they work with certain winmo devices. I wasn't able to make them work with my Xperia, but maybe one of you guys would be able to do it. Any other solutions?
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Not sure I'd bother really. What do you need to connect? If it's for storage just get yourself devices that take SD cards, then use MicroSD in adapters, then y ou can easily take it out and put it in the Xperia to copy stuff over.
Well, I guess I want my Xperia to have all sorts of capabilities. Imagine connecting an external DVD-RW drive and burning a couple of disks...... How about that !
I don't think linking to warez sites is within the rules..
if you have to it would be better to stick the relevant text in your post
Um.... the site may be for anything, but the drivers are freeware made by a poster on that site. I don't think it is against the rules, but if it is a mod should take the necessary steps.
The only reason that I could reasonably see for having a USB host to to accept USB pendrives for copying data to the microSD card. I can see 3-4 reasons why it wouldn't work, the primary one being that the USB port won't provide 5v/500mA to power the external peripheral.
Just a idea...
i have an idea which i like to share with You ...Imagine one small box with 4 ordinary aa mignon bateries inside and a card reader inside and a mini usb cable going out from that thing. Ok, now what we have here? Alternative charger for Your Xperia if You need it,some extra backup space for Your data and all we need is Usb host drivers on xperia. Advantages of this stuff is that everyone can make it, its a cheap solution,You can buy a batteries in almost every market and its just a basic idea so You can upgrade it as You need it. The fact is that we now have a power (5v/500ma) which we need for usb host. Please let me know what are You think of this and sorry for my bad English
Hm.... So the Xperia doesn't have a powered USB right? Can't this be changed by a software hack or something or is it hardware related? Is there a device that can be put between the Xperia and the external flash and that provides some form of power, like the one "Mrca" suggested above my post?
I would like posibilyty to conect usb stick.
now and then I trawel by ferry it takes abaur 12 h of doing nothing.
and just watching movies on phone.
so stick is perfect for video or music. my mini 8gb sd is full with other crap.
and by hqaving external power to usb it alsoo charges phone.
so anyone ?!?!?!
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This has allready been discussed here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480899
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
You should have a look to those other subforums of devices which feature the same chipset / functions.... ( Touch HD , Touch Pro, Touch Diamond etc etc etc )
I wonder if the USB on the Nexus One allows me to connect an external hard drive. I'm only talking about data transmission with externally powered USB-devices. The N1 doesn't need to power USB-devices for me to be satisfied.
And if not: could the deficiency possibly be mended software-wise, or is it a limitation of the hardware itself?
Thanks beforehand!
no it cannot be the host. Read this on a google forum, someone posted the link as an answer to a similar question yesterday.
Thank you for your answer, britoso!
But oh, what a pitty!!!
Can't it possibly be fixed by booting with another software driver or something?
What's the point of removing this ability? It seems completely ridiculous. It gains nothing at all to "un-specify" USB host capability:
"Now, I have my files on this USB memory stick and here's the Nexus One. Oh, what's the use. Google didn't care at all about this kind of scenaria..."
Well, let's see what can be done with bulky wireless adapters and stuff like that then, to mend this unnecessary fail of the N1... I probably need to use a PC running Windows and a cable internet in order to have any use at all of the N1. Was this the purpose of this deliberate design "feature"?!?
this feature was not removed, but simply never implemented into the Android OS (afaik). if USB was host that means anything connected to it would have to draw power from the Nexus One's battery. Im sure HTC does not want this, because some things connected to USB can put incredible stress on a battery.
I thought the inability was due to a USB design that will allow charging, but doesn't allow hosting.
(at least that what I gathered about the n900 and why it couldn't act as a host.)
edit: nevermind nokia opted to skip on the go support to get the product out faster.
I don't know if there's a hardware limitation in place, but even if there isn't, the software does not support it.
There's an app for the n900 to add host support in the maemo repository. Don't know if it works though. I've always thought host support was due to the software.
Go here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=738
Sign in with your google ID. Vote for the feature by clicking the star.
(While you are there, click on "Back to list" and browse for other issues/features you care about and "star" them too...)
Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Thanks for posting this as I saw this on another site and came here to raise awareness. I've heard that someone got a USB keyboard working over USB host. Could someone try this out on their N1?
Hi all, first of all I kindly ask u to be patient with me cos I'm not a developer but rather a newbie... but really I didn't know where to ask for help ! Well, I'm still going mad after one year almost since I bought my Samsung J5, cos apparently there's NO WAY I can make Windows XP recognize it as a MTP device. Ah please don't ask me to use another PC or to upgrade to another Windows version cos for several reasons I don't want and I can't (by now). I must use THAT pc to connect my phone if possible. No WIFI, thanks.
Well, still searching thru forums for hints etc and I tried out everything I could find to date: I installed the mtp drivers mtppk12.exe, I also tried to install the Microsoft User Mode Driver Framework stuff, no luck. Everytime I plug my phone, the pc suddently detects it as "digital camera". So that nasty window pops up asking which programs to use to load pics etc. And if I access it as a volume, what I can see and do with its content is very limited as u know.
I tried to play with the hardware wizard, there's apparently no way to have the phone seen as mtp. I even tried to uninstall and reinstall the drivers above, or to uninstall the various USB hubs and devices... nope. Oh I also tried to install the Samsung USB drivers for Mobile phones, still no luck. I NEVER get any errors or warnings though and no yellow question marks... just my pc insists to see it as a ptp device !!! And of course my phone is SET as MTP, not PTP. I tried to switch between those repeatedly. Even to remove the SD, to turn it off... no way.
Oh one detail... by reading somewhere I suspect that Windows Media Player must be installed ? I don't want it and don't want to install more ehr junk (read: unneded stuff, KIES, etc) IF possible. Or is it really strictly needed ?
Another interesting detail... always reading somewhere, it looks that, those lucky people who finally achieved to have their phones detected as mtp (no matter which model) under XP, have always this file present: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\wpdusb.sys
Well I have NOT that file, even after having installed the packages mentioned above ! Where does it come from ??
I'm even ready to get my hands dirty, to play with the registry, I don't care... just don't ask me to change that PC lol or to install more junk stuff (if possible).
Any expert out there ? Any useful hints ?
I really can't spend more time for that. I shall give up soon. It's depleting.
Oh another quick question: does anybody know whether by installing Cyanogen Mod the USB Mass Storage mode is available again ? Or it has been ruled out even in this third party OS ? (I could not find this info anywhere...) Thanks very much
SO first of all make sure that USB Debugging is enabled on your phone. (Settings>Developer Options)
Make sure that samsung usb drivers are installed You can find them here
When you plug your device in, in status bar it should say transferring images via USB. Click on that balloon and choose "Transfering media files"
One more thing that is recommended is use the original Samsung USB cable.
If this still doesn't work PM me and i will investigate further.
Telepracity
ElenaXX said:
Hi all, first of all I kindly ask u to be patient with me cos I'm not a developer but rather a newbie... but really I didn't know where to ask for help ! Well, I'm still going mad after one year almost since I bought my Samsung J5, cos apparently there's NO WAY I can make Windows XP recognize it as a MTP device. Ah please don't ask me to use another PC or to upgrade to another Windows version cos for several reasons I don't want and I can't (by now). I must use THAT pc to connect my phone if possible. No WIFI, thanks.
Well, still searching thru forums for hints etc and I tried out everything I could find to date: I installed the mtp drivers mtppk12.exe, I also tried to install the Microsoft User Mode Driver Framework stuff, no luck. Everytime I plug my phone, the pc suddently detects it as "digital camera". So that nasty window pops up asking which programs to use to load pics etc. And if I access it as a volume, what I can see and do with its content is very limited as u know.
I tried to play with the hardware wizard, there's apparently no way to have the phone seen as mtp. I even tried to uninstall and reinstall the drivers above, or to uninstall the various USB hubs and devices... nope. Oh I also tried to install the Samsung USB drivers for Mobile phones, still no luck. I NEVER get any errors or warnings though and no yellow question marks... just my pc insists to see it as a ptp device !!! And of course my phone is SET as MTP, not PTP. I tried to switch between those repeatedly. Even to remove the SD, to turn it off... no way.
Oh one detail... by reading somewhere I suspect that Windows Media Player must be installed ? I don't want it and don't want to install more ehr junk (read: unneded stuff, KIES, etc) IF possible. Or is it really strictly needed ?
Another interesting detail... always reading somewhere, it looks that, those lucky people who finally achieved to have their phones detected as mtp (no matter which model) under XP, have always this file present: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\wpdusb.sys
Well I have NOT that file, even after having installed the packages mentioned above ! Where does it come from ??
I'm even ready to get my hands dirty, to play with the registry, I don't care... just don't ask me to change that PC lol or to install more junk stuff (if possible).
Any expert out there ? Any useful hints ?
I really can't spend more time for that. I shall give up soon. It's depleting.
Oh another quick question: does anybody know whether by installing Cyanogen Mod the USB Mass Storage mode is available again ? Or it has been ruled out even in this third party OS ? (I could not find this info anywhere...) Thanks very much
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I have no idea if it works, but try to enable usb-debbuging in Developer Options (tap build number 7 times to enable Developer Options in About phone).
Im on cm12.1 and when i connect my phone to PC there appear a notification where i can choose Media device (MTP), Camera (PTP) and charge only.
I remember that in past sometimes windows (win 7) was recognizing my phone as PTP too, but i dont remember how i fixed it, probably switching from notification from actual to MTP, i dont remember.
As an alternative, try services like http://web.airdroid.com/ (you need to install app on phone) for transfering files, but personally i dont think i trust that kind of services.
You can try to install Windows Media Player crap and see if thats the problem, if is working.
I would like you to tell me through PM or in the off-topic thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j5/how-to/ot-one-galaxy-j5-off-topic-thread-thread-t3461384 ) why you use win xp, why you dont wanna update, i wanna see your opinion about it.
If you wanna a lightweight OS and you are not gaming, then there are linux distributions: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ .
Open dailer and type *#0808#
ElenaXX said:
Hi all, first of all I kindly ask u to be patient with me cos I'm not a developer but rather a newbie... but really I didn't know where to ask for help ! Well, I'm still going mad after one year almost since I bought my Samsung J5, cos apparently there's NO WAY I can make Windows XP recognize it as a MTP device. Ah please don't ask me to use another PC or to upgrade to another Windows version cos for several reasons I don't want and I can't (by now). I must use THAT pc to connect my phone if possible. No WIFI, thanks.
Well, still searching thru forums for hints etc and I tried out everything I could find to date: I installed the mtp drivers mtppk12.exe, I also tried to install the Microsoft User Mode Driver Framework stuff, no luck. Everytime I plug my phone, the pc suddently detects it as "digital camera". So that nasty window pops up asking which programs to use to load pics etc. And if I access it as a volume, what I can see and do with its content is very limited as u know.
I tried to play with the hardware wizard, there's apparently no way to have the phone seen as mtp. I even tried to uninstall and reinstall the drivers above, or to uninstall the various USB hubs and devices... nope. Oh I also tried to install the Samsung USB drivers for Mobile phones, still no luck. I NEVER get any errors or warnings though and no yellow question marks... just my pc insists to see it as a ptp device !!! And of course my phone is SET as MTP, not PTP. I tried to switch between those repeatedly. Even to remove the SD, to turn it off... no way.
Oh one detail... by reading somewhere I suspect that Windows Media Player must be installed ? I don't want it and don't want to install more ehr junk (read: unneded stuff, KIES, etc) IF possible. Or is it really strictly needed ?
Another interesting detail... always reading somewhere, it looks that, those lucky people who finally achieved to have their phones detected as mtp (no matter which model) under XP, have always this file present: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\wpdusb.sys
Well I have NOT that file, even after having installed the packages mentioned above ! Where does it come from ??
I'm even ready to get my hands dirty, to play with the registry, I don't care... just don't ask me to change that PC lol or to install more junk stuff (if possible).
Any expert out there ? Any useful hints ?
I really can't spend more time for that. I shall give up soon. It's depleting.
Oh another quick question: does anybody know whether by installing Cyanogen Mod the USB Mass Storage mode is available again ? Or it has been ruled out even in this third party OS ? (I could not find this info anywhere...) Thanks very much
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Telepracity said:
SO first of all make sure that USB Debugging is enabled on your phone. (Settings>Developer Options)
Make sure that samsung usb drivers are installed You can find them here...
When you plug your device in, in status bar it should say transferring images via USB. Click on that balloon and choose "Transfering media files"
One more thing that is recommended is use the original Samsung USB cable.
If this still doesn't work PM me and i will investigate further.
Telepracity
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Wow how much support and how quick... thank u all, really
I will start replying Telepracity by now (I must still carry more tests and study the other replies)
-I removed the previous Samsung USB drivers and I installed the ones u suggest... ok the file name is the same, just 16 vs 19 MB... but that surely DID change something , keep reading
-I turned USB debug ON in phone's developer section EVEN if, actually, I found that in similar threads in the past it was suggested to turn it OFF instead, anyway...
-Ok the original cable is slightly broken but I used it the same. I have another new cable though which was tested with a friend's laptop and it works and my phone there can be detected as MTP (under a newer Windows version though). Anyway I'm interchanging them and they apparently behave the same
So, what changed by installing these apprently "better" drivers and nothing else ?
Finally my PC seems to recognize my phone as a MTP device ! But things are still far from working (by now).
Namely:
Upon connection, no, the phone status bar does not show any "transferring images" or "transferring files"... it's a J5, it just says connected as MTP (vs. PTP)
Windows now says New Hardware detected, Samsung Mobile MTP device WOW
The only difference if I enable the USB debug option being, an additional device gets recognized and listed in the hardware named SamsungAndroidPhone / Samsung ADB Interface
But there's a problem... during installation of the MTP device (listed in Hardware as Samsung mobile USB composite device), I get an error, saying "cannot find the required section inside the INF file" !!!
Still no "?"s or "!"s listed in the hardware though.
And obviously, my Samsung is still NOT accessible as a Volume as it should be...
Oh no dear I'm not one who wants to bother ppl privately to stress with my very own problems but I thank u the same for the offer
I go on experimenting and reading other suggestions, thanks
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I have no idea if it works, but try to enable usb-debbuging in Developer Options (tap build number 7 times to enable Developer Options in About phone).
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Thanks. As I already told Telepracity, often I rather noticed the OPPOSITE suggestion, but I tried. The only difference being that if I do, I see an additional device (Samsung ADB or alike) detected and mounted by Windows. What apparently "moved" something was installing these other Samsung USB drivers I was suggested to
Im on cm12.1 and when i connect my phone to PC there appear a notification where i can choose Media device (MTP), Camera (PTP) and charge only.
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What a pity... so they dropped the UMS protocol aswell. TOO bad. What I really can't understand and agree on is... "alternative" OSs should really fill those voids more or less deliberately imposed by the big companies for some obscure and dirty plans against users' interests, not following them instead ! Oh well. But luckily enough, I noticed that MANY ppl share my thought here and there, that dropping UMS for MTP was a really debateable move. Sigh.
You can try to install Windows Media Player crap and see if thats the problem, if is working.
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Only as my very last resort... and I don't think I can really... wonder why lol
I would like you to tell me through PM or in the off-topic thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-j5/how-to/ot-one-galaxy-j5-off-topic-thread-thread-t3461384 ) why you use win xp, why you dont wanna update, i wanna see your opinion about it.
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I will if I remember... but just for merely convenience reasons
If you wanna a lightweight OS and you are not gaming, then there are linux distributions: http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/ .
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Oh I do already ! Don't tell me that lol... but for various reasons I must use that PC, preferrably, to do such
tasks
Thanks anyway
ElenaXX said:
Wow how much support and how quick... thank u all, really
I will start replying Telepracity by now (I must still carry more tests and study the other replies)
-I removed the previous Samsung USB drivers and I installed the ones u suggest... ok the file name is the same, just 16 vs 19 MB... but that surely DID change something , keep reading
-I turned USB debug ON in phone's developer section EVEN if, actually, I found that in similar threads in the past it was suggested to turn it OFF instead, anyway...
-Ok the original cable is slightly broken but I used it the same. I have another new cable though which was tested with a friend's laptop and it works and my phone there can be detected as MTP (under a newer Windows version though). Anyway I'm interchanging them and they apparently behave the same
So, what changed by installing these apprently "better" drivers and nothing else ?
Finally my PC seems to recognize my phone as a MTP device ! But things are still far from working (by now).
Namely:
Upon connection, no, the phone status bar does not show any "transferring images" or "transferring files"... it's a J5, it just says connected as MTP (vs. PTP)
Windows now says New Hardware detected, Samsung Mobile MTP device WOW
The only difference if I enable the USB debug option being, an additional device gets recognized and listed in the hardware named SamsungAndroidPhone / Samsung ADB Interface
But there's a problem... during installation of the MTP device (listed in Hardware as Samsung mobile USB composite device), I get an error, saying "cannot find the required section inside the INF file" !!!
Still no "?"s or "!"s listed in the hardware though.
And obviously, my Samsung is still NOT accessible as a Volume as it should be...
Oh no dear I'm not one who wants to bother ppl privately to stress with my very own problems but I thank u the same for the offer
I go on experimenting and reading other suggestions, thanks
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What windows media player version do you have installed on your system?
If 11, then i would suggest you to try disconnecting the phone, uninstalling any current drivers for the phone, then reinstall Windows Media Player 11 again. Install the drivers/ software for the phone from the manufacturer’s website and then re-connect the phone. The settings will be detected automatically and then check whether the issue is resolved.
Telepracity
Telepracity said:
What windows media player version do you have installed on your system?
If 11, then i would suggest you to try disconnecting the phone, uninstalling any current drivers for the phone, then reinstall Windows Media Player 11 again. Install the drivers/ software for the phone from the manufacturer’s website and then re-connect the phone. The settings will be detected automatically and then check whether the issue is resolved.
Telepracity
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Well no the matter is, I really have NO Media Player installed and if there was one initially (I don't remember lol) I had surely uninstalled it together with most M$ crap or unused programs. Just, I dunno why I must have a WMP installed at any cost to access an MTP device... ok I could even try in the worst scenario...
But clearly my XP configuration misses something in oder to be instructed on HOW to use/interact with MTP devices. Now at least, with the USB drivers u suggested me (note, the previous, not working ones were from manufacturer's site !!!) it can tell it is an MTP device, while before it was only seen as PTP (even if the phone was set as MTP). But it still can't find the proper entry inside the INF file to correctly manage such devices, it seems. I know this is going to become a matter for experts lol perhaps for too much experts... I think I shall soon give up and use another PC or laptop connected to the LAN for that purpose. Just, for various convenience reasons I was much handier for me if I could use that PC with XP instead. Dont' worry. Really I see the matter is getting too troublesome and I'm giving up. Thanks
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Well no the matter is, I really have NO Media Player installed and if there was one initially (I don't remember lol) I had surely uninstalled it together with most M$ crap or unused programs. Just, I dunno why I must have a WMP installed at any cost to access an MTP device... ok I could even try in the worst scenario...
But clearly my XP configuration misses something in oder to be instructed on HOW to use/interact with MTP devices. Now at least, with the USB drivers u suggested me (note, the previous, not working ones were from manufacturer's site !!!) it can tell it is an MTP device, while before it was only seen as PTP (even if the phone was set as MTP). But it still can't find the proper entry inside the INF file to correctly manage such devices, it seems. I know this is going to become a matter for experts lol perhaps for too much experts... I think I shall soon give up and use another PC or laptop connected to the LAN for that purpose. Just, for various convenience reasons I was much handier for me if I could use that PC with XP instead. Dont' worry. Really I see the matter is getting too troublesome and I'm giving up. Thanks
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Try to install wmp because in the microsoft answer website there is a same guy that faces the INF problem and he fixed it updating wmp.
Yes,this is the problem in windows xp,if you install windows media player mtp will work in xp.
OK folks at the end I DID IT finally :good::good:
Thanks for insisting so much about WMP11... eventually I convinced myself there weren't any easier (read: more
"elegant" or clean) workarounds. The drivers and files needed in order for XP to access MTP are simply all there.
Microsoft never thought to release them in a standalone package. Apparently neither MS MTP drivers nor
manufacturer's USB drivers are essential or needed at all, unless one is a developer. After having tried out every possible combinations, checked the files installed, repeated the procedures, etc HERE is the exact list of things (apparently) needed to have a MTP device recognized under Window XP. I'm also publishing this list hoping it may turn out useful to somebody else in the future, one never knows...
1. Installing Microsoft's MTP drivers (MTPPK12) SERVES NO PURPOSE here
2..Installing Samsung USB drivers also serves NO PURPOSE here (unless one wants to use additional features
as perhaps ADB and access the phone modem etc.)
3. Microsoft User Mode Driver Framework IS NEEDED ! Cos there are some files installed which are essential
like wudfrd.sys (NOTE: chances are u don't even need to install this package if u install WMP11 throughfully
cos apparently a similar file is installed but only during a vanilla WMP11 installation, keep reading)
4. If u don't need or don't want WMP11, u can safely install it just partially. I could manage to install WMP11 only
partially. The original self extracting archive must therefore be opened as an archive, and ONLY the
wmfdist11.exe needs be installed (of course, if one wants a full installation, he's advised
to do so, and in that case he can PERHAPS avoid to install the Microsoft User Mode Driver Framework, I
didn't check this option)
5. I can confirm... in my case at least, different USB cables make no difference. And the fact of having USB DEBUG
enabled on the phone has the sole effect of making an additional ADB device being detected under Windows
(for developers) and in that case perhaps u still need to installl Samsung's USB drivers.
Voilà ! As I plugged my phone, it got recognized as MTP suddently. I didn't even need to modify any .INF files
by hand for adding my device's USB ID and such things. And it can now be accessed as a volume.
Case solved Thanks for every contributions
I managed to make recognized my S5 by installing WMP 11 like stated above BUT i cannot copy/view any media files from my Galaxy S5 phone. I tried many cables with no luck. ElenaXX's post was extremely helpful but I couldn't access media files on phone eventhough recognized successfully.
Note: Everytime you change USB mode from Developer Options, it installs additional ADB devies again and again, and modem.