What does HD2 do in sleeping mode? - HD2 General

I guess probably a lot of people here have the auto rotate app installed. it make the screen go landscape at anytime when you rotate the phone, even with lock screen.
I noticed that if i turn off the phone(or go to sleeping mode), then rotate the phone, then click any buttom, the screen comes on in landscape mode!! !!!
This means even when it is in sleep mode the app is still working!! So if you put it in your pocket walking or something, it may have rotated itself hundreds of times!!!!!
What i want say is, if there's any program running when you turn it off, they may be still running in sleeping model???

No, it does not mean that. It only means, that when the key is pressed, before the screen is turned on, the orientation is detected and screen refreshed.
There are several levels of sleep mode. Generally in sleep mode everything which can be turned off is turned off. If no application is working at the moment (all applications wait for input), even the CPU should be on standby.
GSM module is usually on.
But if some application is running, and you enter sleep mode, it is not really sleep mode, only screen is off. WM do not suspend running applications.
They can however close data connection and AFAIK HD2 is configured that way. But it can be changed in the registry, and on my X1 it is not like that (only WIFI is turned off). So for example if I run skype, and then 'sleep' the device, it runs, and it communicates, and it can eat battery in few hours.
Which applications runs and when, if the G-sensor is on, or if the lock screen is drawn and refreshed, it is really hard to tell. I guess some software for this might exist, but I don't know about it.

asdadbz said:
I guess probably a lot of people here have the auto rotate app installed. it make the screen go landscape at anytime when you rotate the phone, even with lock screen.
I noticed that if i turn off the phone(or go to sleeping mode), then rotate the phone, then click any buttom, the screen comes on in landscape mode!! !!!
This means even when it is in sleep mode the app is still working!! So if you put it in your pocket walking or something, it may have rotated itself hundreds of times!!!!!
What i want say is, if there's any program running when you turn it off, they may be still running in sleeping model???
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Following your logic, It should come back in portrait mode if the device was sleeping and you hold it up vertically. So the fact that it wakes up in landscape mode means that the device was not in completely in standby when you did rotate it.

first the sleeping mode or 'turn off' mode i mean is pressing the 'hang up' buttom. The software is called Gryator 2
What I found was, when the phone is on, if I rotate the phone there is approx 1 sec delay. But if I rotate the screen in sleeping mode and then press any buttom few seconds later, the screen comes on instantly as normal and is in landscape. If it is as per you said, there woud be a 1 sec delay, woundn't it?
And also if listeniing to music, press the the 'hang up' bottom, the music stays. I had a XDAIIi, very old.. if press the on/off buttom, music won't stay. i had to just turn of the screen.
This make me wonder, what stays on, what gos off in the sleeping mode.
As HD2 does not have the true 'on/off' buttom like the XDA IIi where all the PDA application is literally turned off.....

Xeon said:
Following your logic, It should come back in portrait mode if the device was sleeping and you hold it up vertically. So the fact that it wakes up in landscape mode means that the device was not in completely in standby when you did rotate it.
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yes, correct!! Vise versa, I tried both....

So it does start in landscape every time ? I guess I still don't get it ..

hi,
i use changescreen to rotate, and have the same isue. eg.
1. have the device in portrait and switch it of
2. then (screen is off) turn it to landscape for a while
3. after that turn it back to portrait and immediately turn on the screen
i see the screen in landscape and then after some delay turning to portrait. you can proof this by telling the program to delay the rotation for some sec., wich is my default setting. i used gsen, changescreen and gyrator (gsen only on my old advatage) and they all behave the same.
mad.

Dr.Sid said:
So it does start in landscape every time ? I guess I still don't get it ..
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Basicly if you rotate the phone, there is a small delay for the screen to rotate. when you rotate the phone in sleep mode and wait 2 seconds then turn on the screen, it comes on instantly and is rotated already. This means the 'screen rotation' has been already done when it is on sleeping mode. Otherwise the screen should be on as what it was before and then rotate with the small delay.
So if the rotation program is working in sleeping mode, other programs could be working as well? !!!

It isn't really sleep mode. There is (as mentioned above) no suspended mode for WM.
Most running apps won't actually be doing anything though, because you're not making them do anything. Obviously, the usual form of user interaction is via the screen. In sleep mode, this isn't happening, so most apps will just sit there waiting. Anything that runs periodically, or reacts to other events (such as orientation changes) will still do what it does when the phone is not in sleep mode.
Basically, the screen is turned off. That's it.

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Running programs in Standby Mode

Can any body tell me how to run progs. in standby mode. Especially programs like IM+ Messenger every time I press the power button I have to sign on again and thats not cool.I will give the program if needed. Thank you very much..
I don't think its possible, when you hit the power button, it puts it into a sleep state, meaning any running programs are paused, so the CPU isn't wasting your battery.
It sounds like you want a screen lock, for example slide2unlock, which you can set to lock and turn off your screen after a set time, or just bind it to a button, and hit that to lock/turn off your screen, It's what I use when listening to mp3s
Thats odd, on my standard rom I could go into sleep mode and go right back to what I was doing as far as IM and whatnot. When I flashed to nbd 8.2 last week Audio Manager would still run when I went into sleep mode (by pushing button), which was fine by me.

Mystery action when HD is off

My practice is to turn off my HD after use (I use 3rd party app to turn off the machine instead of pressing the power button), and put it back to the pocket. Recently, I found that my HD have do something when it is off, such as,
- make a phone call
- Go the the TF3D Photo tab and viewing a photo
- Showing the Power setting page (I set it to the LSK)
I'm 100% sure that the machine is off, so I wonder if my machine got a problem?
are you REALLY 100% sure it is OFF and not only in standby (aka screen off)? there is a old version of a 3rd party app that when you tap the poweroff icon goes standby and NOT poweroff. you should disable the 3rd party app and shut down your device using the default power button.
instead if you like having it only in standby you should keep in mind that standby does NOT by any means autolocks the screen. I'll try to explain:
you put the machine in standby and put it back in the pocket. you receive, dunno, a ring or a sms or something else. automatically the screen turns itself on, activating the touchscreen, and then all hell breaks loose
there are some solutions to this: a long press of the end key enables the default lock feature of the device. then you can turn off the screen safely (or almost safely)
also you might want to install s2u2 and set it to autolock on screen off. you turn off the screen (either with your app or the power button) and when resuming you have a neat "slide to unlock" screen (iphone-like). This is the solution i suggest more.
I am quite sure i talked too much but i hope i've been useful anyway

All programs close when screen goes black

Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
shuflie said:
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
shuflie said:
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
Fallen Spartan said:
I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?

Odd rotation behaviour

OK I've had this happen to me for at least three days now and it's finally to the point where I'm posting to see if anyone else has experienced it. I use the Vega in landscape virtually all the time and because of that I lock it in that orientation. However, once or twice an hour the screen will briefly flip to portrait (power button would be on the left in that orientation) then back to landscape. It's very brief and as I said it flips back just as quickly but it's very annoying. It has happened while watching videos too which is more annoying as it takes longer than a browser to change orientation while playing.
I've tried recalibrating it, rebooting the tablet and everything short of reflashing the ROM. I'm really hoping to avoid reflashing to test it as I've finally got the screen calibrated to an almost perfect level thanks to the other calibration app on the MoDaCo forums. Has anyone else had this behaviour before? If so, have you found a fix?
I do not have your exact problem but something similar. Just now I picked mine up and screen was upside down (when the device was right side up i.e. buttons at top and right). I checked the rotation button and it was not locked. When I rotate the device it will not switch rotation at all - when I go into settings and turn off auto-rotation it flips right-side up. It seems like the accelerometer is knackered but it would seem to be working in order to flip it when auto-rotation is switched off. The daft thing is that in various screens it flips to being right side up. It boots up the right way round and the lock screen is the right way round but as soon as unlocked it flips upside down. I too have tried rebooting and all sorts - thinking of flashing it as a last resort.
I seem to have fixed this now. I use quickboot and on a whim rather using my reboot shortcut I used power off. I then used the power button to start up with the rotation lock switched on - when I turned it off once booted it was back to normal. I suspect the rotation switch bit was a red herring - I reckon the shutdown/restart fixed it.
settngs>g sensor>games mode can cause some accelerometer antics try turning on and off
What does the gsensor mode do when activated, as I haven't seen any difference?

Accelerometer Auto-Rotate Issues

Has anybody experienced issues with turning the screen on and having whatever app you had opened last be in landscape mode?
Like I turned the screen off with the phone in portrait,, then laid the phone down flat on its back, not on any angle,, then turn the phone on and have the screen be in landscape mode.
This has so far happened a lot on texting and messaging apps.
If I have Messenger (stock SMS) open in Portrait and shut the screen off, then rotate to Landscape and turn the screen back on, it is in portrait, but immediately switches to landscape. It is not already in landscape mode.
I generally use Tasker to lock everything into portrait and use the Quick Settings toggle to turn autorotate on if needed for an app. Games that only work in landscape will override to landscape automatically when they launch.
Yesterday, i had the messenger app stuck in landscape mode. I couldn't make it go into portrait mode no matter what i did. I'm not sure how i got it to that state, but a reboot fixed it

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