Non-linear battery usage (@99% for 8 hours) - Touch HD General

I have a non-urgent but pretty weird and annoying problem with my battery status. After charging (usually overnight), it sticks at 99-100% for most of the day if I barely use it. Once it gets below that, it steadily depletes faster and the last 10% is gone within an hour. The battery life itself is fine, for which I'm grateful! If I barely use my phone it will last four days or so and easily last a single day under heavy use. Strangely, if I reboot my phone, which I do maybe once a week, it suddenly ducks down to a more realistic number; say 50% before rebooting and suddenly it's down to 30% after.
Is there any way to fix the meter to indicate the true state? I can imagine there should be some way to calibrate it or I could even calibrate it manually if that's possible, setting the current 90% to 50% and 50% to 30% or so.
It might be relevant to know that I'm using Dutty's 4.3 Final WM6.1 ROM. Does anyone have experience with this or have ideas to point me in the right direction?

I am
I am using duty holy grail 2.1 win 6.5 with modified icons cab and i find that if it seems to be on a certain percentage for awhile i just soft reset the phone and it will drop 5 or 6 percent and start displaying properly.

My battery is similar although not as extreme. The first half of indicated charge lasts far longer than the last half. Also if i reset my phone the indicated charge will drop by around 20%.
It has done this since i've had it on standard Orange Rom.

elammertsma said:
I have a non-urgent but pretty weird and annoying problem with my battery status. After charging (usually overnight), it sticks at 99-100% for most of the day if I barely use it. Once it gets below that, it steadily depletes faster and the last 10% is gone within an hour. The battery life itself is fine, for which I'm grateful! If I barely use my phone it will last four days or so and easily last a single day under heavy use. Strangely, if I reboot my phone, which I do maybe once a week, it suddenly ducks down to a more realistic number; say 50% before rebooting and suddenly it's down to 30% after.
Is there any way to fix the meter to indicate the true state? I can imagine there should be some way to calibrate it or I could even calibrate it manually if that's possible, setting the current 90% to 50% and 50% to 30% or so.
It might be relevant to know that I'm using Dutty's 4.3 Final WM6.1 ROM. Does anyone have experience with this or have ideas to point me in the right direction?
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I have the same problem!!!!!
Other thing I realized is the radio of my phone is always communication, i know that because if Iput my phone near a sound box (like my sux sound box pc) the box make a noise every 4 seconds, stop 10 sec and starts again...
Some one else saw it happen too?

Same battery probem...
Hi at all.
I have the same problem, the phone stay with aproximatly full percentage for 6-7 hours, but after these hours at hevery call the battery go down fast...
And, during the last 30% of the battery percentage the countdown is very fast....
can be possibile only 2 or 3 short calls, at maximal.
Problem of windows mobile software, or htc hardware...?
The battery meter inside windows have the same problem.
Best regards.
Luigi P.

Same issue here.
I believe everyone has it, but as battery life is generally really ok nobody complains.

Same problem here.
When a Battest runs in the background, then is the indicator at 80-100mA but sometimes it goes up to 280 for 20-30 seconds.
I don´t know if there a program which need the battery power or the indicator shows not correct.
I have this Problem since i updated the Radio Rom from 1.12.25.16 to 1.13.25.24.
When i backup the 1.12.25.16 the error is the same.
greets
Kenny

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tytn battery life

yo homies
just wondering what sort of batterylife are you getting out of your tytns.
post your times like this
wifi--
media playback--
phone--
GPRS--
anything else you care to mention--
cheers Ganon
firstly bought my 838pro (dopod variant) less than a week ago, so have not gone through everything yet
wifi - yet to try
media playback - little
phone - 2hr+ per day
GPRS - yet to use (did play with the videophony a few days back)
Battery was recharged about 3 days ago, so its ~3days I guess...
One thing to take note is the battery indicator is bit querky, the level is scaled on a 10% rate, eg 100%->90%->80% etc
Battery Seem to last for a bit m ore than a day depending on usage.
I believe that it has the stardard/average PPC phone battery power longetivity but the battery reports every 10% instead of 1% is inacceptable...
Battery Indicator
Does anyone know how modify the battery indicator to run at 1% intervals?
I cannot find a solution to this yet. Hopefully some of the experts will...
I dont get why the fact that the battery goes down in
10% leaps instead of 1% bothers people so much. It does not make the thing less accurate,
perhaps it makes it even more accurate since depending on use one percent might
go a lot faster then another.
I'am quite a heavy user, so I recharge daily for few hours, when
the phone is connected to my comp.
I understand. As a heavy PDA Phone user. The TyTN battery seems to last for quite a long time. But the increment of 10% is too big for a battery meter.
Just like a thermometer, 2~3 degree celcius changes are not very significant for what we feel. But that doesnt mean it shouldnt show every 1 degree
For the car fuel indicator, no one would want it to pop from 10% to 0% all in a sudden. Altho we all know that 10% means low on fuel.
The resolution of 10% is too big IMO for this application UNLESS there is a significant reason for it to be 10% like it will drain ALOT of battery if it is being reported every 1 or 2%.
Hi
My XDA trion makes me sad.
The first time all works fine, but now the charging end at 90% and after 1 day the battery-tool says "low of battery"!
I tried a softreset, but the problem dont disappeared.
Can you help me?
EnzephaloN
I read in some review that it can play MP3s for 8 hours? Has anyone tried how long they can play MP3s for?
I have the same problem as EnzephaloN.
After charging my Dopod 838 pro to full charge in the afternoon. The following day, when i wake up, it is down to 20%!!
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
I barely used the phone during this period and I have turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
oswin said:
I have the same problem as EnzephaloN.
After charging my Dopod 838 pro to full charge in the afternoon. The following day, when i wake up, it is down to 20%!!
Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
I barely used the phone during this period and I have turned off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
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mine's even worse, charge overnight, and after taking of charge at 9am it's dead by 4pm after just a few calls and the rest of the time on standby, noticed that the machine stays slightly warm all the time. the few times that it has held a charge it is cool to the touch, even when using it
switch to gsm band.......and use UMTS band only if necesary
am using only gsm band, but still the machine only lasts 4-5 hours on a charge. Stays warm the whole time
diable57 said:
am using only gsm band, but still the machine only lasts 4-5 hours on a charge. Stays warm the whole time
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Mine only gets warm with intense browsing, streaming media, or wi-fi use more than 30min or so.
Also when i have UMTS/3G off mine will last all day. but with it on, it'll last a little more than half a day.
if it stays warm, i suspect you have some background task running all the time or your power saving has been turned off, why don't you do a full backup, then hard reset and test again? mine works more than a day with UMTS turned off and less than a day with it on.

Help - Battery Drain excessive

*jump to ashtricks for immediate problems without reading software/ROM changes.
I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.
ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.
Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB
Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.
I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00
Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.
@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!
Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.
That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.
Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.
Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.

Another battery drain problem - driving me CRAZY!!

I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
aidinali said:
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
samlives said:
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
Fallen Spartan said:
Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am

Battery Drain HD2?

Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
Crash95 said:
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-1% every 3 minutes
-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
27firesnake said:
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
creed said:
I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.

Warning: Do not install 2.1.4 firmware

Okay, just a warning. This firmware is a battery destroyer. Within 11 minutes my battery has dropped 10% and I have no running background processes and I'm not doing anything with the unit. Just checking the screen once in a while. I've actually watched it go down 1% in a minute.
I'm telling you...if you have not installed this update...don't do it!
Too late for me.. already updated. I'll keep an eye on my battery level and let you know if I notice it go down faster than normal.
I just unpluged from the charger. It is at 100%.. I'll let you know where it is in 1 hour. I'll turn on display to stay on to simulate being used and then let it set.
Edit: Okay after 10 minutes.. still at 100% screen always on.. that was with whatever programs load into the background after boot.. I haven't killed any apps. I now have launched my Pykl3 Radar app to increase cpu from 300Mhz to 1000Mhz.. it refreshes the radar screen every 5 minutes.. we'll see how the battery does with the processor working harder.
I'm not noticing any difference really... Same battery life as before(I think, I haven't done any formal battery life tests or anything)
Seems fine for me too, but I'll go ahead and do this test.
Edit1: After 30 minutes it is still at 100%.
Edit2: After 35 minutes it has gone down to 99%
Edit3: After 60 minutes it has gone down to 96%
Edit4: After 90 minutes it has gone down to 90%
Edit5: After 2 hours it has gone down to 82%
Edit6: After 2.5 hours it has gone down to 76%
Edit7: After 3 hours it has gone down to 67%
Edit8: After 3.5 hour it has gone down to 61%
Edit9: After 4 hours it has gone down to 55%
Edit10: After 4.5 hours it has gone down to 50%
Edit11: After 5 hours it has gone down to 46%
Edit12: After 5.5 hours it has gone down to 44%
Edit13: After 6 hours it has gone down to 40%
So this averages out to a discharge rate of 10%/hr
This test was done with the screen fully on the whole time. Mostly running at full 1000Mhz and with wifi on and downloading data every 5 or so minutes.
If I let it run down to 20%, I would probably get about 8 hours which is within the specs of the Archos 101.
I was pushing the device harder than average and I believe in normal use I could get more than 10 hours.
So I conclude the battery problems aren't related to the latest firmware release 2.1.04.
Yeah, looks like you might just have a problem with your device. Have you tried reformatting and reinstall?
After about 4 hours of usage (mostly Wordfeud) with Softlocker active (keeps device awake when screen is off) I still have 82%.
Techngro said:
Yeah, looks like you might just have a problem with your device. Have you tried reformatting and reinstall?
After about 4 hours of usage (mostly Wordfeud) with Softlocker active (keeps device awake when screen is off) I still have 82%.
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Same here, no battery issues at all.
ExploreMN said:
Okay, just a warning. This firmware is a battery destroyer. Within 11 minutes my battery has dropped 10% and I have no running background processes and I'm not doing anything with the unit. Just checking the screen once in a while. I've actually watched it go down 1% in a minute.
I'm telling you...if you have not installed this update...don't do it!
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Saying that your battery is depleting at 1% per minute is useless information given that many electronic devices can sometimes drop by 20% in 1 second
Please only evalute battery usage by observing how much time it takes to fully discharge.
Please check battery history with the android system tool and also more detailed info accesible with this widget: http://www.appbrain.com/app/quick-battery/com.bwx.qs.battery
You can also take a look at CPU usage with http://www.appbrain.com/app/os-monitor/com.eolwral.osmonitor
Yesterday I updated to 2.1.4 and really have not noticed any battery drainage. No issue from my side.
Updating last night on Archos 70 8GB, after fully charged all night and playing net for 20 minutes continuously, battery drops to 99%. No sign of drainage too.
don't see any issue on battery drainage on my Archos 70IT either =)
It is interesting, but in this thread I appear to be the odd freak out and no one is having any issue except me...yet in the other 2.1.4 thread, a lot of people are experiencing this battery problem...not sure why that is, but the problem is there and it is real even if it is hit or miss on people experiencing it.
Yep, it's real. I put in a service ticket. I wiped and reloaded my a70 today, but it was still drawing over 800 ma listening to Pandora. I only had about 30% left on the battery, and I wanted to completely discharge it. It's stone dead and on the charge right now. I'll find out early if it helped. 3am start tomorrow. Goodnight.
(first post ) I just installed firmware 2.1.4 yesterday, and haven't noticed any difference in battery life. Although, I have noticed that 3d games obliterate my battery life now, where they just ate it before.
Wiped, reloaded, completely discharged, and charged over night. Down 20% the first hour.
ske714 said:
Wiped, reloaded, completely discharged, and charged over night. Down 20% the first hour.
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Mine is still around 10% drop every hour I have wifi on for net surfing. Mine just upgraded from 2.1.2, just for information.
don't see any issue on battery drainage on my Archos 101 IT either
One thing I am noticing is that is seems more sensitive to cranking up the processor to somewhere between 600Mhz and 1Ghz at various times. Before it wasn't as sensitive and often would stay in the 300-600 range for me. This change may be why people have noticed "increased performance/less lag?"
That might be part of the drain issue or something else.
I think the point is that it is hit or miss out there. Some people get the glitch and some don't. Regardless, Archos needs to address the problem.
Ok, now this is interesting. Just to try something different, I reformatted my tablet this time and installed 2.1.3, then restored everything with Titanium. I seemed to be holding up much better. After an hour it had barely dropped. To put it to the test I drove home from work with bt gps and google maps via tether. All tolled, in 2 hours it dropped about 10%. I thought I had it fixed. Then I realized I hadn't rebooted after restoring with Titanium, so it was still rooted. I rebooted it and the wheels came off. It dropped over 10% in about 20 minutes. I ran the root app again and it leveled right off. It's down to 10% now so I have to charge it before I can experiment more, but maybe someone else can try and see if they see the same thing.
Maybe root has something to do with it.. I've never rooted and don't have a problem.. I wonder if the only people having problems are the ones that rooted.. although it sounds backwards in your case.
Tesla74 said:
Maybe root has something to do with it.. I've never rooted and don't have a problem.. I wonder if the only people having problems are the ones that rooted.. although it sounds backwards in your case.
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I was wondering the same thing. It also seems to have to do with wifi, because with it off it draws almost nothing. The exploit has something to do with the wifi, so who knows.

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