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what sorta battery life do you guys get? Mine's about 3-4 hours (less if i use BT and WLAN!)
admitedly i didnt leave it charging for the full 18 odd hours 1st time round, so i bought another battery (needed a spare anyway) and made sure it was charged up 100% correctly...
its giving me exactly the same battlife!
obviously turning it off/standby itll last ages, but its crap when using the PDA!
am i doing something wrong?
join the club (no pun intended)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22468
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23865
3-4 hours is especially bad though.. mine will last a day or maybe a day and a half depending on use, but no where near as good as my old xda II
i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!
Mine seems just OK. I took it off the charger last night at around 10pm and by 5.30 this afternoon the battery was down to 59%. That's with several calls made -no wifi - about 30 mins GPRS browsing - but BT was on all the time.
I'm switching BT off until I need it, and seeing if that makes any difference.
Kevin
jim galbally said:
i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!
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Wifi will suck the life out of it, Jim. Have you been through all the usual suspects like beaming etc?
Kevin
wow jim thats really bad.. have you tried discharching it completely, then leaving it on the charger for about 12 hours, and doing that a couple of times? sometimes that improves battery life.
i think i might try the worst case scenario you did and see how long mine lasts
kevin.. that sounds half decent.. especially with BT on the whole time. sounds like you're one of the lucky ones
Battery
I am the sort to cover all bases so please do not get me wrong.
Bro have you configured your Xda IIi backlight and power to go on standby mode yet?
jim galbally said:
i got 2 hours out of it yesterday night...
i turned on bluetooth and wifi, and watched it die (just left it on the desk n pressed the screen every now and then)
now surely 2 hours cant be right? i'm having to leave it plugged into the pc all day at work AND carry a spare battery!
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tried it with mine, had bluetooth on (not connected to anything tho), wifi on (not connected to anything, but it was finding wireless networks every 10 secs or so and kept popping up that do you want to connect bubble), recieve incoming beams was ticked, gprs was connected and it was getting used a couple times each hour to sync my email, and i probably received about 4 phone calls and made one or two. my cpu was set to standard (not turbo)
mine lasted for 4 hours at this rate, so a fair bit better than yours.. unless you were actually using bluetooth and/or wireless
its now as low as hours!!!!
even with every power saving thing on possible, i can only push it to 3!!!!
o2 will swap my phone over, will do this on monday/tuesday (just gonna pop into shop) but it means getting the new one unlocked again... grr
wow thats pretty horrible. good luck with the next one
just upgraded to the imate rom (which is always clever before taking somthing back to the shop )
its now giving me 4 hours instead of 2... so it's gone up
i dont think my himalaya last much longer unless i let it go into standby
and lower the brigthness when using batt
4 hrs is not normal either, usually my 2i can last for 8 hrs (not counting stand by of course). yesterday it suddently ran out of battery within 5 hrs and really had me worried for a while. Than I found out it was because I adjusted the backlight brightness to very high. It seems the LCD backlight has a major effort of consuming battery power.
Tricks summed up from other topics:
* Darken your On Barrery backlight brightness (Start-Settings-System-Backlight-Brightness)
* Shorten your On battery backlight remain time (Start-Settings-System-Backlight-Battery Power)
* Set your CPU mode to standard (Start-Settings-System-Power-Processor)
* Close incoming beam monitoring (Start-Settings-Connections-Beam)
* Try you best not to connect any network (Bluetooth, GPRS, WLAN...) :?
* Put less item on your today screen
* Some software has update or refresh service running on background, try to increase their interval:
[list:8501145cfd]- OmegaOne BatteryPack has a default setting of 30 sec update interval, and a network activity monitor. All can be disabled in today item's options.
- Marsware WeatherPanel has a default setting of 30 min update interval
- All alike stuff you can think of ...
* Applications remain in memory when you click "X", shut them down if not using anymore. (Start-Setting-System-Memory-Running Programs)
- Some apps have convenience tool to do this, such as OmegaOne BatteryPack, or O2Plus.
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There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted
yes!
i hope imate upgrades too
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There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted
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Whereabouts are you, Noodleman? O2 Asia (where I am) is renowned for being the last with things.
rom upgrade! where?!
where can I find a rom update for my XDA?! it doesn't have a specific carrier.... I bought it with english software.
I do not find battery with a better autonomy for the 2020i! Does it exist?
like 1800 mAh or 2000 mAh !!!
Up ...
No idea ??? :?
kevinnugent said:
Noodleman said:
There is a fix due next week, i currently have the beta firmware installed and its increased my battery life by 3 fold.
Wait for the next firmware and all will be sorted
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Whereabouts are you, Noodleman? O2 Asia (where I am) is renowned for being the last with things.
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I believe this is O2 Europe - if it's the same beta I'm using.
Works well too.
*jump to ashtricks for immediate problems without reading software/ROM changes.
I know this is going to be made especially difficult with all the different software/combo's that can be loaded, but I have to post this up and see if any one else has seen this and if it might be hardware or software.
I have a HERMS 100 (8525). I first got the phone in April with WM5 (don't know which build they might have been on then) and which ever Radio was coming on them then. My battery would usually last 2 days with my avg use.
This has been the case threw upgrades until the last 2-3 months. I upgraded From one version of WM6 to VP3G's 2.X build of WM6 and I upgraded the radio to which ever version was the newest at that time (maybe 1.47 or 1.50). I Noticed a sudden drop in battery life, but the phone pretty much always made it a full day even with high use, so I didn't think much of it. I did notice about this time that sometimes the phone would alarm me and say it had 20% battery remaining, but if I rebooted the phone it would say 80 or 90% power remaining when it came back on and work fine the rest of the day.
The following has been over the last month. I upgraded to VP3G's 3.0 and again later to 3.6 and again to 3.62. I noticed the battery continued to degrade throughout this time. So I upgraded the radio to 1.54. The battery continued to go down hill at an even rate, but I noticed something else, the battery would not take very long to charge, but was dying faster and faster.
Well I started tracking and experimenting. Starting last week (no change in software or ROM's for the last 2 or 3 weeks) the battery would rarely make it through the day even when the phone was not in use any during the day (Granted I get no cell service at my desk at work, but I never have even back when the phone would last 2 days searching for signal). Most days last week it wouldn't make it 5 hours from being unplugged even when the phone wasn't in use. I decided to run the battery all the way down to where it wouldn't even turn the phone on anymore as I had heard sometimes you needed to do that after a rom upgrade. It did not help, but I noticed that the phone said the battery was fully charged within 2 hours from being completely dead.
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Today was the worst, I unplugged it after being plugged in all night. Unplugged it at 6:45am. I did not use the phone, it just stayed in standby (I hadn't even taken it out of standby any today. I am at work with no service (When I say no service, I don't mean sometimes it finds something, I mean no cell service from any carrier makes it past 10 feet of the front doors entering the building and I am about 150 feet from the closest wall to the outside). I grab the phone at around 10:30am to check on a meeting notice, clicked on the phone to wake up and the battery alarm alerted and the battery said I only had 20% power remaining. In 5 minutes of doing what I was doing the battery had gone down to 10% remaining (so the phone went from lost 90% of it's power, never being used in less then 4 hours). I went back to my desk, plugged the phone back in and within an hour I noticed the amber light on the front that I relate it to telling me it's charging had turned green, I unplugged it and checked it and the battery said it was full 100%. Could the battery really charge that fast?
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I know this would be easier if I could remember what radio and what version of WM5 came on this phone and loaded it back on and I am in the middle of downgrading the radio since I had ran WM6 with no battery issues separate from WM5 until I did that one upgrade with the radio. I guess I am curious if this could be a hardware (phone or battery) where it's not charging fully or if this seems to be a software issue.
I know all the factors that can be involved make this hard, but thanks for any responses you guys can give.
ok, how about this one, Is my battery screwed? I notice while I am using the phone the battery gets really hot. Today it did the same thing of all of a sudden saying I had 10% power after only using it for 5 mintues, rebooted the phone and now I am back to 70%.
Hi,
There's a lot on here about this problem. Have you read the wiki?
Some solutions you might try:
- turn wifi off.
- turn off all beams
- put in the fake server trick.
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise
- invest in a new battery.
WB
Thanks, I have gone through the wiki Continuasly since I got the phone in April, but with all the stuff out there, I could have easily missed something.
- turn wifi off - Never turn it on
- turn off all beams - Beaming disabled
- put in the fake server trick - Have to research that one
- search to see if you have any software that continuously polls the battery or is seeking an exchange server - have to check, don't have exchange server setup. I do have it checking emails every 15 minutes, but I never had any issues with that setting and the battery lasting a couple of days
- ensure all your apps fully close rather than minimise - X button set to close not minimize and I often check it to see whats running.
- invest in a new battery. - Will be doing that next. Just waiting to see what case I might get for Christmas.
Thanks again, I will research those other items.
I had a similar problem where the stock battery would only ever last for ~7-8 hours - even on standby. I got an extended life 3000mAh battery and that managed to last for about 14 hours.
I had a talk to HTC and they agreed to warranty claim it. I'm still waiting for it back... It was sent back to them on 14/11, and I'm still waiting.
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
wacky.banana said:
Stop your device checking for emails for a few days and ses what happens. Definitely install the fake server trick. Activesync continuosly trying to do its dirty work can be a pain in the arsenal, at times.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
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Well I turned off email checks last night and disabled the radio this morning so it wouldn't search for signal when coming to work and set the phone on my desk. I never used it this morning, just had it sitting on my desk in standby, until about 4 hours after I took it off the charger and the phone buzzed me and when I checked the phone the battery said 0% remaining and the phone cut off a few seconds later (now I am sure if I would have turned it back on the battery would say something like 70%, but I didn't do that this time). I left the phone off and plugged it into the computer to charge, the LED on the front come on amber for about 20 minutes then went to green. I turned the phone on and it says 100%. I don't see how the battery went from 0 to 100 in a matter of 20 minutes.
I did a lot of searching the last couple of days and phone issues from email to bad manufactured batteries (which I happen to have the brand someone suggested as a bad one), I also saw people pointing out do the fake server trick, yet I can't find a single time where anyone said what the trick is or how to do it. Not even in the WIKI where the trick was mentioned as a possible fix (or google for that matter, just the same words first posted in a thread here about it).
So, how do you do this server trick?
I plan to get a new battery after Christmas at any rate.
Check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338421&highlight=fake+server+trick
I was having the same battery drain problem (less than 8 hrs on a full charge), I did the fake server and turned off auto day light saving time checking the clock settings, I now get 12 - 15 hrs on a full charge.
I'm running vp3G's 3.62.3 AT&T ROM with radio 1.54.07.00
Thanks! I was just finishing flashing a new ROM when I saw this. I did the fake server trick, but this rom doesn't have the Dya Light Savings time option where the instructions say it should be. Maybe that's all removed by this rom. TIme will tell.
Thanks again.
@ Firehawkns
hey buddy!!
I am using a JasJam for the last 2 months. i dont know if my reply is useful to you or not. As far as battery life is concerned am impressed with mine. Am using TNT's latest ROM and my radio version is 1.54.07.00. I use my phone all day with couple of calls that last about 2-3 min each. But every night I get calls from my gf, to whom I talk for 3 hours straight(mostly starting from 11pm to 2 am) and every day I put my phone to charge after I finish the call. So after finishing the call I still have 50% of battery. Moreover our call starts right after I leave work at 11pm so by the time I reach home which is around 11.30pm my phone connects to wifi too. So all the time am on the call as well as an active wifi connection.
So as per my experience the battery life is cool. So try TNT ROM!!!
Interestingly enough, now I've got my phone back from the warranty claim, it's only drawing 81mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT. Before sending it back, it was drawing ~180mA with backlight on, no wifi or BT.
This will just about double the battery life that I get in theory...
Install BatteryStatus on your device and see what it tells you.
That is a cool program.
First off I really hope it isn't the phone, for one it's my third one from Cingular since the first two died within 2 weeks (back in may), second it's got one big gash down the corner where it came out of the holder and hit the road one day. I think that would be just enough reason for them to not do anything with it.
Anyway, I am going to replace the battery because I can't figure out why the phone is doing things like saying it has 20% batt remaing, then I reboot and it goes to 70%. I am hoping this is a battery issue. So far the phone has been unplugged for a tad less then one hour, has not been used and the battery meter is on 90%.
Battery Status is a kick butt program and I plan to do some searching today to see if people have benchmarked there ratings/draw. I notice mine jumps randomly. With wifi, BT, all programs all terminated, backlight on the lowest it will go and radio has one bar 3g sometimes, two bars Edge sometimes, but didn't change during watching this list below, but the MA does this every 5 second refresh:
111--190----125-----109----250----210-----140----135----226---111---etc.
I am currently running a barebones fresh flash WM6 rom with nothing installed except Cingulars media net/ISP settings, radio is 1.47.10. Going to try 1.50 today I think.
I turned the radio off just now and the MA went down (expected) to 84 and is jumping between that and 104. The battery has dropped to 80% since I listed 90 above. The phone has now been unplugged for right at an hour. Also it might be interesting to note that the little battery percent/bar icon on the "Battery Status" software once in a while will display -1% like it is right now, the phones battery display says 80% and when I tap the battery icon on battery status it jumps to 80%.
Anyway, I am just listing points since this thread is here, I know I need to replace the battery first before any additional insight can be brought forward.
Thanks everyone.
Hmm.. On my Schaps 4.22full, radio 1.54.00 on good reception (on Finnish network) I get around 30 mA with GSM and 3G when idling(no wifi, no bluetooth, no beam, backlight around halfway). With airplane mode on I get around 28 mA. Tried with backlight dimmest and the drain was 15mA on GSM network.
Usually I put the 3G off so the battery would last longer.
The phone takes more power when searching the network so it would be a good idea trying to switch the phone part off at your office.
Well, looks like it was indeed the battery. Over the last week the phone would randomly shut off (about 4 times a day), the battery would be at 10% within 4 hours even if the phone hadn't been used, and while using the phone you could almost watch the battery go from 90% to 30% within a 5 minute talk time, reboot the phone and it would be back at 80%.
Put in the new battery yesterday after charging over night and the phone not only didn't shut off at any point, but I had 60% power remaining by the end of the day (with some data and voice use).
The old battery was a Dynapack from China, that I had read on here is prone to defects.
Thanks for the help everyone, wish I would have gotten a new batt sooner.
Guys,
just bought my X1i last week. One of the my reason to buy this phone, because some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
So I'm just curious about how long does your X1 battery last. Mine, it can barely last 2 days, most of the time, I have to charge it everyday, so I can use the phone for the next day.
Please post your answers below and also mention the rom you used at this moment. Just want to know, if there is any correlation between versions of rom used and battery life. I used stock generic UK R3A.
Also if anyone knows how to save your X1 battery, please also post it below...
Thanx and regards,
liemivan
i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...
I'm havin the same problem. Battery just lasts one day. I turn off the internet by turning off the data connection switch in com manager but still no dice. Is there a battery checker to see if u have a bad battery?
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).
TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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Did you delete biotouch or do u just stop it from running?
liemivan86 said:
some "people" said that the battery can last up to 4 days on regular use.
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HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.
orelsi said:
HAHAHA If only.........
My battery lasts from 6 to 8 hours max.
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what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?
may be possible with edge only connection with no wifi bt and push and screen set to lowest.
Lake292 said:
what are u doing with it lol non stop online video playback ?
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Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .
My battery lasts about 5 or 6 hours, simply had to buy a second charger and keep at work. Would leave home around 5:30 a.m. fully charged. Bluetooth is always on from then to about maybe 8a.m. or 9a.m. Listeing to audio podcasts or audio books. Screen at full brightness, always have the 3G connection on. Couple hundred text msgs to go through, along with clicking on links as needed to go to the websites linked in them. And SkyFire to read the Wall Street Journal for maybe 30 mins.
X1am, ROM: 1.02.948.8 with a date of 09/17/08.
about 2 - 3 days depending on use (more calls on some days lowers battery alot)
My power Xperiences so far
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.
Wow... judging from the answers here, it is very strange to see how the battery life can be very differ from one to another. One can only last for 5 to 6 hours, while others can last for up to 3 to 5 days.
Lake292 said:
i have touchx 10.2 and if i dont use internet just normal stuff it last 5 days... if i start using wifi/edge about 2 days...
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Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
TheNicoT said:
I used to charge my X1 every day, at least every second (when I didn't use it that much).
But since I did the Biotouch.exe trick, I'm able to run about 3-4 days with "normal" usage (most time online, permanent checking mails, etc).
Just search for the thread Biotuch.exe. It's about 3 pages back.
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I'll try to check it out... Thanx...
Trudi said:
R3, 5 days in standby @ home, using it to call during about 10' per day. Otherwise @ work (phone 20 - 30' per day, and 15 - 20' surfing on the web by UMTS) 3 days then I charge it as I am at 20 percent.
Beware of the UMTS coverage, if the coverage is not excellent, you'll use your battery very quick (so if no 3G used, set is as GSM instead of Auto in Phone - Settings - Band).
Pay attention to the software you install, it can change from 3 days to a simple day if the software is not optimized (for example it's a nightmare with SPB Mobile Shell 3).
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I guess that maybe the cause, since the umts network around here is not so good... I'll check that later and let you know if it is the cause...
orelsi said:
Pretty much
I don't know really. Take yesterday for example:
I unplugged it from the charger in 9:00 then after 5 calls, 30 mins of music playback, 15 mins of wi-fi and 15 mins of playing games the battery was dead in 15:00 . That's only 6 hours......
I don't care anymore though. I bought a second battery and I'm happy again .
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Wow... that what I call HEAVY USE... Btw, what rom did you use? Thanx...
pokdub said:
Overall the power consumption and power mgmt of the Xperia is quite bad, having been an XDA user for years.
The power button puts the phone into standby, so some apps keep running and drain the battery, when you think it is not consuming. Eg GPS.
Last week my phone would drain within one day, even on standby. I checked for any running apps and I had Closed All, but drain continued a second day after full recharge.
The only way to get it back to some level of normaility was to do a Soft Reset. This must have stopped the culprit process which was draining power ???
When the power drains to its lowest level, it puts the phone into a virtual dead state. It requires some time charging before it even powers up again. This is not an elegant way to power manage.
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I guess it is because of if you used all your battery power, you will also drain the backup battery (you can check the backup battery status by using the apps "batty"), so it will take a while to charge the backup battery first before charging the main battery. This is only a guess...
What Backup Battery??? The thing that shows up in Batti is for phone with a backup battery I guess... but NOT for the X1. There is no such thing that can show up in Batti. On mine it shows just an empty bar.
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Did you turn off the 3G network and let the phone work on gsm network only? 5 days with normal stuff is a blast...
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why would i have it on when my operator doesnt even support 3g course it was off no data connection also... my battery goes down 10-20% a day when i just use it for music and some sms...
Mine lasts about ~6 hours talk time at 3G.
~3-4 Days when i use talk ~30 minutes / day.
Only lasted a few hours with the original Rom.
Flashed to Smabergs Touch X 10.0, battery lasted ~1 day, and then with 10.1 it got improved to 3-4 days.
Which is enough. Thank you Smaberg!
My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).
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My battery last from 9AM to uhm 3PM yes that's for 6 hours of use (I have SPB Mobile 3.0.1 running and WCX ROM Windows 6.5). RAM running from 60-95% of usage LOLOLOL but yeah I have my FB, Skype, Windows Media, MSN, etc. running and it runs SUPER slow at times that I have to take the batt out.
I'm gonna flash the ROM again to a battery friendly ROM if available (the way I'm using it right now is not very economy friendly).
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Touch X is all that you want, and will ever need.
Hi all,
Just switched from xperia x1 winmo to galaxy.
I love my exchange and cant miss it.
So I set it up on the galaxy. Left it in good hsdpa coverage area over night for 8 hours after fully charging it. Battery now at 76%.
This is not so good... My xperia was significantly less consuming.
Moreover, sometimes push is sluggy. Some maols from this night only appeared after opening mail app.
I am quite disappointed...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
now it is 6h30 since 100% charge
Battery down to 33%
Android reports:
Display 36%
Battery in Standy 23%
Android OS 16%
Phone in Standby 15%
Android System 5%
Task Killer 4%
Maybe 5 mails arrived, opened mail app 3 times and 3-5 opened for very few minutes.
Had the phone in bad reception area (1-2 bars) most of the time.
Still, this is really bad!
If you do a search, you will find many posts advising that the full potential of the battery will not be available until at least 5 complete cycles.
This means battery fully charged, then run to fully empty, then fully charger again, equals one cycle.
Geryatrix said:
If you do a search, you will find many posts advising that the full potential of the battery will not be available until at least 5 complete cycles.
This means battery fully charged, then run to fully empty, then fully charger again, equals one cycle.
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this is bloody strange, I was thinking the more the battery gets heated up it looses it's lifetime!!!
S
well, better now, but my old Xperia X1 still beats the **** out of the Galaxy in terms of battery & MS Exchange Sync reliability...
Samsung: 2 days only under optimal reception conditions
Xperia: 3 days any which way
new test from last night:
charged to 100%, clean reboot, exchange sync on
7 hours
=> -15% battery
I conclude
The SGS does not survive one working day.
Recharging twice a day is not acceptable!
I activated the push today so I will see how long it last
For the moment I am at 81% of battery and it has been unplugged for a little bit more than 3 hours
I watched also 20mn of french news so 57% of battery used by display
I think it could last the day if I don;t do anything to stressful
there is a very specific way to charge this battery right out the box to optimize its full potential ASAP
so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures twice.
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It's been now 9hours and I still have 43% of battery.
42% of display (2h11)
19% call (10mn)
Android system ( including sync) 15%
...
So for sure it won't last more than 1 day but you should be able to last 1 full business day
I even switch on the bluetooth to send some mp3 to my wife ( it failed ... she had my old iphone and I forgot it wasn't possible ), the gps for few min ...
I am also listening music for around 2-3 hours
EDIT : by the way, I was in front of my laptop and half of the time the mail arrived before on my phone and I got all my mails
still got the JF3 ROM, but heard that newer ROMs may have trouble with Exchange.
Email works ok for me, but appointments sometimes take tooo long to sync.
My office is well-shielded (lots of steel), so only got 1-3 bars, sometimes switching HSDPA and EDGE.
However, my previous phone had to endure the same.
7h18m since unplugged, battery at 74% still remaining.
Display: 49%
Cell Standby: 24%
Phone idle: 17%
Android System: 4%
- Exchange sync is on.
- 2x Google account, email, contact and calendar sync is on.
- Updated 4 apps from market.
- Display on for a bit more than 35 minutes in total since unplugged.
- Twitter and facebook sync is on. Refresh every 15 minutes.
- Weather service refresh every 2 hours.
I've still only once not had the phone last a full day on one charge, and I use it quite heavily. Playing games, taking pictures, reading feeds etc.
I don't know what you call heavily but after 15h my battery is a 7%
I have 3h of display which takes already 38% of the battery
35mn in more than 7h is not what I would call heavy ... especially if you read, play games, take picture ... unless you do so with the screen switch off
now for the OP I guess this bad reception can explain the ewak battery but not the difference with the previous phone .... Just mean that the battery was better on the previous one
the SGS is useless.
My Xperia could do email & exchange sync better and browse some web pages.
The SGS has trouble with exchange (tasks!) and COULD do browsing and apps better. But if you actually start using it and looking at the superb screen, the battery runs empty quickly.
So what is the point in having this device? Honestly, this is quite frustrating.
[Update]
9h20
100%->81%
radio: 74% (why does it translate to "Akku" in German?)
Telephone: 23%
Email: 2%
one email came in during that time
I just read of a guy on another forum who got 8 1/2 days out of one charge!!!!!
I'm getting about two days, had the phone three weeks and the battery has improved, at first I was loosing 30% in only a few hours. I initially starting turning off email, then once-per-hour to save battery, but now after a few charges I can leave both Gmail, gTasks, Exchange on push sync and a few widgets which update at regular intervals... I still get two days of average usage. Not like my old Nokia, but then again the Nokia was nothing like the SGS
Note, I do have a profile which turns off autosync between 23:00 and 06:00, and I use autokiller, but apart from that it all stock.
now at another place with full bars most of the time:
11h40 since charging
50 minutes telephone call
=> 48%
69% goes to calling
22% radio standby
...
mails came in with 2-3 minute delay ... sometimes its rather instant ... well, WiMo and blackberry can do better
dark_sith said:
I conclude
The SGS does not survive one working day.
Recharging twice a day is not acceptable!
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unfortunately, this is what major/ popular finger touch screen device deliver, be it Apple iPhone, HTC, and SGS.
I'm surprise to know Experia can last that long, is that the Winmo version that that uses stylus? the pressure-base (or rather stylus based) touch screen have a very long battery life.
PS: I have around 100 mails in 8 hrs, and my phone need a charge during lunch in order for it to support me until night.
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now at another place with full bars most of the time:
11h40 since charging
50 minutes telephone call
=> 48%
69% goes to calling
22% radio standby
...
mails came in with 2-3 minute delay ... sometimes its rather instant ... well, WiMo and blackberry can do better
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I was told that Blackberry Storm and Storm II have the same battery performance like iPhone and SGS.
WinMo 6.5 is using stylus based. I curious how long can WinMo 7 battery life last with that finger-touch based screen.
I don't see how resistive screens vs multitouch screens matter in this case.
Looking at the energy info, radio in standby seems to consume a lot. And also phone in standby. The phone's screen is on for very few minutes, just to quickly read some mail. Most of the time screen is off and push mail service is active in the background.
Besides, Samsung talked about OLED and SOLED as SAVING energy ...
Well, maybe it is just the OS.
I think WiMo 6.5 is just a better OS. I wonder what the HD2 is like.
To bad the original WiMo 7 has been canceled. This touch & fun cellphone trend is horrible!
Hi guys, I have my omnia 7 for less then a week now and I found it's battery life terrible, the worst performance ever. It drys off in less then a half of day with general use. I fill the battery to 100% over the night and then I wake up in the morning at 5.30am and when I'm back from school sometimes it's allmost empty, sometimes is at about 20% with a usage of About 15 mins of gaming, some browsing/facebook.. few calls and sms and an hour or two of music playback.
I have wifi, bluetooh, push mail, feedback and locations off. Have also been reading on the social.answers microsoft forum about that and there were different tought. I'm wondering how is it with yours.. is it REALLY this bad or it is something wrong with my phone/battery. I don't want to take it back if all are like this as it will be at least one week on service.
uristic said:
Hi guys, I have my omnia 7 for less then a week now and I found it's battery life terrible, the worst performance ever. It drys off in less then a half of day with general use. I fill the battery to 100% over the night and then I wake up in the morning at 5.30am and when I'm back from school sometimes it's allmost empty, sometimes is at about 20% with a usage of About 15 mins of gaming, some browsing/facebook.. few calls and sms and an hour or two of music playback.
I have wifi, bluetooh, push mail, feedback and locations off. Have also been reading on the social.answers microsoft forum about that and there were different tought. I'm wondering how is it with yours.. is it REALLY this bad or it is something wrong with my phone/battery. I don't want to take it back if all are like this as it will be at least one week on service.
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mine is on par with any other smartphone ive owned. i can get 24 hours out of it comfortable. thats with about 30 mins calls, 15-20 sms, 30-40 mins gaming, wifi, bluetooth, location & feedback all turned on, windows live & facebook hourly sync & 5 email accounts syncing between every hour & every 2 hours. i have noticed battery life seems to suffer when i use last.fm over HSDPA so maybe its something related to music playback. but even with 3-4 hours of last.fm im still getting 13-14 hours.
uristic said:
Hi guys, I have my omnia 7 for less then a week now and I found it's battery life terrible, the worst performance ever. It drys off in less then a half of day with general use. I fill the battery to 100% over the night and then I wake up in the morning at 5.30am and when I'm back from school sometimes it's allmost empty, sometimes is at about 20% with a usage of About 15 mins of gaming, some browsing/facebook.. few calls and sms and an hour or two of music playback.
I have wifi, bluetooh, push mail, feedback and locations off. Have also been reading on the social.answers microsoft forum about that and there were different tought. I'm wondering how is it with yours.. is it REALLY this bad or it is something wrong with my phone/battery. I don't want to take it back if all are like this as it will be at least one week on service.
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mine is running fine.
1. exchange mail
2. google mail
3. facebook sync
4. average 10 minutes surfing
5. 10 minutes game
6. less than 20 sms
7. average 10 minutes voice call
morning 9AM full charged and at least 60% by 8PM
ok thank you guys for reply.. I'm deffinetly taking it back for a replacement on monday.
It could be some app running under the lock screen draining your battery, like a game or Last.fm... other than that, yeah, sounds like a replacement is in order
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It could be some app running under the lock screen draining your battery, like a game or Last.fm... other than that, yeah, sounds like a replacement is in order
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Nothing running in background. anyway I'll take it back in monday and ask them for a replacement if not, I'll have to wait a week or two to get it back from repair service... trought I hope to get it back till new year.
Maybe consider just buying a new battery?
you should definitely ask for a new battery first, before sending it to service. In the end all is made in China... P.s. My bat. lasts the same as descibed by the others. 1-1,5 day...
Bya said:
Maybe consider just buying a new battery?
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giving 390€ with 24 months of contract, using the device for one week and you really think I'm as dumb to buy a new battery as I have 1 year warranty on battery and other accesories ? ... Really ?
mchabr said:
you should definitely ask for a new battery first, before sending it to service. In the end all is made in China... P.s. My bat. lasts the same as descibed by the others. 1-1,5 day...
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Thanks, I'll see what it can be done..
my omnia7 leasts longer than my galaxys with data and email sync .. so no problem
Ok I was at my carrier and they said that the phone needs to be send on service (no replacement options) so I'll probobly send it after new year.
But I notice that when I'm at home (I live about 7-8km out of the city) my battery last muuuuuch longer, actually enugh for what I expect - 2h of music, about 2h web and of market browsing (connected to home wifi + mobile data enabled connected on 3g+ full signal) and when I'm in school (city centre) it drys my batery much faster. Today after 3h with 20min of music and 5 min of web browsing it fell on less than 50% and few hours later on -20% and then it turned off. (same if connected to school wifi or just 3g+ also with full signal)... I really don't get it .
And many of my school mates have the same carrier but don't have any of this problem... might it be somekind of carrier transmitor selectnig bug with windows phone 7 or what ?
Things to note - browsing with WiFi requires less power than browsing over 3G - 3G browsing will suck out your battery a lot faster. (The phone will not use your mobile data connection if you're over WiFi) Also, depending on the lighting conditions, your screen auto brightness will probably also have your screen on a lower brightness setting in your house.
That, and I don't really recommened using your phone as your primary Music/Video palyer if you're serious about battery life - that does a good job of sucking your battery too, and you'll ntoice most of the people getting good battery life aren't really using it as their primary media player.
actually I tested it with using at home with same settings (brightnes to low, wifi/3g off/on) and I can see that when I'm in the city centre it sucks the battery in only few hours with data connection on and not connected to wifi so I assume that my operator wich recently updated it's network did something wrong as my school mates have noticed this too but none of them isn't using a smartphone on this network so it isn't so obvius. I temporary solved the problem with turning off data connection when I'm in the centre and turning it on only when I need it and when I'm out of the centre.
I also noticed my battery life sucked when I had the official twitter application installed on it.
Today I left it charging for 8 hours on my laptop and the battery meter barely moved, I removed Twitter and hey presto it started to charge properly.
Back to Beezz and now all is ok
daleski75 said:
I also noticed my battery life sucked when I had the official twitter application installed on it.
Today I left it charging for 8 hours on my laptop and the battery meter barely moved, I removed Twitter and hey presto it started to charge properly.
Back to Beezz and now all is ok
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Apps don't run in the background so it is pretty much impossible for twitter to be draining your battery if it is not open.
Maybe it was just a coincidence but as soon as I removed this app my battery started to charge.
Unless it was a one off issue with charging over usb.
my batterylife is the best ive ever had in a smartphone ... i need a custom rom on my galaxy s with android to get close to the batterylife of my omnia 7 ... i am using hsdpa with the same provider on both phones permantly and im syncing emails with them ... even with gaming (sims 3 or nfs underground) the windows phone least longer.
Spybreak said:
Apps don't run in the background so it is pretty much impossible for twitter to be draining your battery if it is not open.
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Not at all. There could me a memory leak in the .NET/silverlight runtime - even Microsoft developers make mistakes
Tbh, I have the Twitter app installed also and my battery life is as good as can be expected with a modern smartphone: 1.5 days heavy use (Music, Twitter, Facebook, web browsing & constant SMS/e-mail)
may I ask somebody for a favor ? Under the diagnosis (call ##634#) type *#2*# (battery diagnosis) and please check what does it say on the third screen at the last line "Result". For me it's "Pass/Fail". Might this "fail" mean it's something wrong with the battery ?
PS. after dialing ##634# a shortcut for diagnosis will show up in the apps menu... just delete it if you don't need it.
And to get to the third screen use the big arrow on the top =)