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The other day i surfed to google from my XDA exec.
mobile internet rocks!!
i was wondering how does google know that i surfed in from a pda, cause i think it sent me to
www.google.co.uk/pda
the web page probably detected your screen size and redirected you to a page that was more friendly to you PDA browser. i wish more sites would do this.
www.google.com/pda for us US residents.
LOL
Not the screen size but the type of your internet browser, in this case Pocket IE.
Correct--it's not the screen size.
Although a LOT of your information is sent over the wire, much more than most of us realize, your resolution information is unknown to most websites, unless you explicitly allow it to be given via some kind of an executable that transmits such information. An example would be an embedded ActiveX object in IE for Windows.
Back on topic, yes, your browser information is known, not only to Google, but to every other website you visit. Not only that, the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy) and where you went when you left it. There's a whole bunch of information deemed to be private that we would rather keep to ourselves (such as our surfing habits) that's known to any website that installs a cookie (a common thing nowadays) on your computer.
This is also how Google knows where you are. For example, when I log on, Google send me to the local Saudi page at http://www.google.com.sa/ It knows this information by doing a reverse lookup on your IP address, and comparing it against known databases of geographically assigned IPs. Since IP addresses are assigned and tied to geographical locations, it's easy enough to do, although it's still very disconcerting to see.
Be careful folks, even your searching habits are being tracked by Google. I have nothing to hide, so I don't care, but many folks do. Witness the recent Federal inquiry into the searching habits of the users of major search engines. Yahoo and MSN gave up that information quickly enough but Google is resisting. I don't think it will be able to hold out for very long though.
Imagine...now the fact that you searched for p0rn on the 'net is well known to anyone in the know. Scary, isn't it?
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thanks monakh
so google can detect both my mobile ip address (is there such a thing?) and my browser, correct?
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the website also knows where you came from (i.e. the http addy)
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Correct, through the referrer...
monakh said:
and where you went when you left it.
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Only if you click a link on the site itself, -and- it is handled via a special handler.
No information is sent to a website when you leave it through e.g. a bookmark in your browser, or by typing in a new URL.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
You are correct.
hey i mailed myself (google account) using my adsl modem and using the gprs/3g connection to check the header to see if i could spot an originating ip address
i found one common ip address
Received: by 10.xy.za.b with HTTP; Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:34:45 -0800 (PST)
i guess this is the google server, correct?
is there any way to prise the originating ip address from an email
That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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That's why there is a registry hack to set Pocket Internet Explorer works like Internet Explorer 6.0.
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Not entirely... I mean, you could - of course. But it also means that many sites will fail to send you PDA-specific content - which, with most plans/top-ups, means heavy costs.
Identifying PIE as IE6 is more used for stupid websites who check whether the browser is IE6 or above, regardless of whether that is actually required by the site.
There's three parts, the compatibility bit ('(Default) = Mozilla/4.0'), the browser string ('Version = MSIE 6.0') and the platform ('Platform = Windows NT 5.0'). If you leave the last bit intact ('Platform = Windows CE'), then you should still be able to get into stupid sites, while having PDA-friendly sites send you the PDA content.
oh i had not thought about the popups
i guess we wont get(suffer) popups with mobile ie5?
i just posted to this bulletin board to check my ip address
from the pc it looks like this 82.1a.bcd.efg
and fro my cda it looks like 193.abc.def.ghi
That's fine because presumably your mobile device and your home PC are on different networks so they sport different IPs.
IPs are a dead giveaway. In many cases, your position can be 'somewhat' and primitively triangulated to within 5 square miles of where you are. This may not be necessarily true for mobile networks, but those networks know where you are at all times anyway. In fact, there is now regulation in the US that mandates all handset makers to manufacture hardware with GPS functionality built-in. Between the two and a half dozen GPS satellites and your cellular network, you can run but you can't hide
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
Of course...
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This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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off-topic...
Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
Being able to find you at any time is an added perk but it needs court orders even if you have been reported and officially designated a "missing person". Getting such a court order can take many hours, being declared a missing person can take 24 hours up to 48 hours (depends on the country and exactly what reasons you have to believe the person in question is truely missing).
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monakh said:
This is, of course, so emergency services can reach you in time of need (in case you are unable to make the call to 911/999).
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Technically it's so they can find you if you do call 911/999/112/whathaveyou but are unable (due to injuries, or duress, etc.) to state your location.
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Ahh yes, I stand corrected.
It's so we CAN make the call and are unable to state the location. That WOULD make sense. However, like you said, there are legal hurdles, although at least in the U.S., they are fewer and far between.
is there any ip address list out there which tells me which ip addresses are allocated to which country?
are ip addresses bunched like telephone numbers
e.g. +1 is north america
+3 and +4 is europe
+96 & +97 middle east
nope, that's not how they work
organisations can get an IP from their service provider, who get blocks from their service providers, who get bigger blocks from places like RIPE, who in turn get huge blocks from ARIN.
But if it's a specific IP you're interested in, try VisualRoute
Hi everyone!
You know everyone's worrying about privacy these days and I was just thinking about the "my location" service on our mobiles.
Does anyone know for sure how it works? As far as I know it seems to take the Cell ID and get the name and weather through an Internet connection. Is that right?
Which database is it connecting to? I know for sure that the place I live at isn't on accuweather, where the weather on Sense is usually taken from and the weather displayed under "my location" is different from the weather for the nearest place that's on accuweather.
Moreover is it possible to find out which data exactly is sent to that database (which seems to be something "Google" because you have to accept some terms initially)?
The phone masts send out a cellID which is passed to google and it triangulates you based on your nearest towers.
Rmour has it google has a huge database of tower names and locations, so once it has a location it can pull up a post code and pass that to accuweather to get back the weather for that area.
It seems that google dont have a complete list of cell id's, and some towers dont transmit their cellid, hence some areas giving my location problems.
google also uses the info for traffic updates and traffic congestion calculations
Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.
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Is there a way to disable the my location?, i sort of found it in the tweaks thread but i dont understand how to do it.
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Just go to settings/location and you can disable it there.
you can do it in regstry.... current user/software/htc/manila.... enablecurrentlocation set to 0 (zero)
The database is by Google. It is supposed to be anonymous, as long as you don't turn Latitude on in Google maps. You can even store history of your location, but that is turned of by default, and can be controlled via web interface of your Google account.
Also note that your service provider can detect your location independently. In some countries this location can, or even must, be archived for some time.
Furthermore if you have Wifi enabled My Location will sniff for wireless packets and depending on the APs MAC addresses will be able to detemine a more accurate location as the Street View vans sniffed packets and uploaded MAC adresses along with GPS co-ordinates to aid their service.
since we're onto wifi sniffing etc for location finding, heres an off topic but interesting proof of concept page that can pin your home pc down to a pretty narrow area just from your home ip address, and which works using googles location service.
Its not nearly as acurate as the real location service, but still got my house to within 500 yards, using my virginmedia ip address.
http://samy.pl/mapxss/
Note test page is for firefox, but the exploit if done for real would work on all browsers.
hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
Do u mean that you are able to surf the internet but some website, like Facebook for example , are blocked?
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Do u mean that you are able to surf the internet but some website, like Facebook for example , are blocked?
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yes exactly, often they have keywords that they block as well, (such as game, kill, black ops, etc). maybe a proxy would work? we used to have a couple good ones but they would eventually block it.
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yes exactly, often they have keywords that they block as well, (such as game, kill, black ops, etc). maybe a proxy would work? we used to have a couple good ones but they would eventually block it.
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yes, a free proxy can be a solution in most cases, here try some in this list first:
http://www.publicproxyservers.com/proxy/list1.html
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hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
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To do this would require some form of exe to use a proxy via a specially setup browser, or admin rights to set the system proxy.
You will find that your IT admins will block the proxies you use (I have to block proxies at my work network when we detect them).
If implemented properly (any good professional IT admin should be able to do it right), you will struggle to tunnel out using most systems.
You can't ssh forward if they block non-standard ports, or filter protocols. You can't use SOCKS proxies if they do the same. You can't use web proxies if they use smart URL filtering.
You can try web proxies, but it's an uphill battle. If you find a proxy that works, don't tell your friends, as that usage across multiple accounts flags the URL in some security systems (my users alert me to the latest proxy sites unwittingly )
Finally, you do realise you are probably breaking the acceptable use agreement? Isn't it better to do facebook etc out of school hours? Or use your phone? If you get good at evading, it is easy to remove internet access altogether from an account in most systems. Good luck in tunnelling out when you have zero internet access as your account is null routed
Summary? Try proxies, don't hold your breath, and do you really need to use facebook etc in school? Oh, and for goodness sake, don't run exes on school PCs... If they've not set them up right, you could infect the machines. They prevent EXE execution on most machines for good reason...
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To do this would require some form of exe to use a proxy via a specially setup browser, or admin rights to set the system proxy.
You will find that your IT admins will block the proxies you use (I have to block proxies at my work network when we detect them).
If implemented properly (any good professional IT admin should be able to do it right), you will struggle to tunnel out using most systems.
You can't ssh forward if they block non-standard ports, or filter protocols. You can't use SOCKS proxies if they do the same. You can't use web proxies if they use smart URL filtering.
You can try web proxies, but it's an uphill battle. If you find a proxy that works, don't tell your friends, as that usage across multiple accounts flags the URL in some security systems (my users alert me to the latest proxy sites unwittingly )
Finally, you do realise you are probably breaking the acceptable use agreement? Isn't it better to do facebook etc out of school hours? Or use your phone? If you get good at evading, it is easy to remove internet access altogether from an account in most systems. Good luck in tunnelling out when you have zero internet access as your account is null routed
Summary? Try proxies, don't hold your breath, and do you really need to use facebook etc in school? Oh, and for goodness sake, don't run exes on school PCs... If they've not set them up right, you could infect the machines. They prevent EXE execution on most machines for good reason...
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This is a REALLY good explanation Pulser, I always liked the way you answer to the people on XDA! (specially on the Hero thread )
By the way, why an .exe file would infect a machine? Do you mean any kind of .exe? Even from a well known company, who create safe and populars software?
I used to run, without tell anyone, firefox portable in my office to bypass firewall restrictions, is that dangerous as well?
Considering you are at school, you will lack a lot of needed rights to edit certain things. I would know, I had to get around blocks on both Windows and Mac computers my freshman year.
I would advise you use the software, Your Freedom, it's free, but requires an account, you will also need to use a browser such as Firefox, and edit the settings to use the correct IP and Port as a proxy.
It also works on both Mac's and PC's. There is another software that I had used, strictly for windows PC's, but I can't recall the name of it.
Edit: I also ran the software from my flash drive..
i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
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i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
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What I did was to download firefox portable, you can google it (and if you want you can copy it to an USB drive).
If you go to firefox networking setting, you can try to change the options in advanced with "no proxy" or as wisefire said just write an IP proxy address with the correct port, you should be able to visit any website.
At least this was working flawlessy for me..
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This is a REALLY good explanation Pulser, I always liked the way you answer to the people on XDA! (specially on the Hero thread )
By the way, why an .exe file would infect a machine? Do you mean any kind of .exe? Even from a well known company, who create safe and populars software?
I used to run, without tell anyone, firefox portable in my office to bypass firewall restrictions, is that dangerous as well?
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Only a malicious exe would cause trouble...
But on a shared school network, who knows what the user before you used...
That's why I use disk freezing software on systems I run, and a forced reboot between logins, to give you a clean environment.
But while employees run portable firefox, what if they were to use it on another pc, and it had a virus, which infected the exe?
TBH, flash drives shouldn't be used in work environments, that were used outwith that environment... But that's not realistic in a school.
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i have special access to .exe and Command prompt just because of the position i am in as a student (several Technical courses). I can execute files on my computer and i have Chrome Installed. Does that help?
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Come on... Surely you ain't gonna abuse that privilege? You got it because you were trusted, not to work round the restrictions that are in your acceptable use policy...
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What I did was to download firefox portable, you can google it (and if you want you can copy it to an USB drive).
If you go to firefox networking setting, you can try to change the options in advanced with "no proxy" or as wisefire said just write an IP proxy address with the correct port, you should be able to visit any website.
At least this was working flawlessy for me..
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That would work unless they filter out proxy traffic (you can often detect SOCKS proxies and other ones that are working using this method, or even block common ports like 8080)
Back in high school we used Ultrasurf and GPass. I liked GPass because it was really easy to hide from the taskbar and notification area.
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Only a malicious exe would cause trouble...
But on a shared school network, who knows what the user before you used...
That's why I use disk freezing software on systems I run, and a forced reboot between logins, to give you a clean environment.
But while employees run portable firefox, what if they were to use it on another pc, and it had a virus, which infected the exe?
TBH, flash drives shouldn't be used in work environments, that were used outwith that environment... But that's not realistic in a school.
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haha, All of my schools have used disk freezing software. I thought about putting it on my parent's computer so I don't have to work on it anymore.
Eventhough I generally don't work on it anymore and just have them call someone to work on it for them. hahah.
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Back in high school we used Ultrasurf and GPass. I liked GPass because it was really easy to hide from the taskbar and notification area.
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Back in my days in high school we just got the many different IT and Librarian passwords/usernames and some teacher's passwords aswell. Then we'd log in to them and download Kazaa (yeah, it was that long ago lol), and downloaded like a gig or two of old NES, SNES, SEGA, Etc roms and started passing them around to everyone. haha.
It got so bad that the school threatened expulsion for everyone that had the games on their user accounts because it was overloading their network and storage space.
For a while they were just searching for the rom's extensions and you could just go and change them to a .txt and then change them back when you wanted to play them, but then they finally realized that the gig of space the roms took up were about 4 times the size of the data we were allowed to have and they could just sort the usernames by the usage of storage space.
The teacher's ones were fun to have though... it allowed you change some grades here and there...especially with my method of madness which I will not describe here. lol
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That would work unless they filter out proxy traffic (you can often detect SOCKS proxies and other ones that are working using this method, or even block common ports like 8080)
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So, I am really interested about this topic, is there anyway to bypass a restriction if they filter out the proxy traffic?
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So, I am really interested about this topic, is there anyway to bypass a restriction if they filter out the proxy traffic?
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Hmmm... It's possible. If they use deep packet filtering it may be hard. But anything is possible...
I won't go into details, of getting round things, as it is my job to stop people getting round them, and I know a load of tricks, but look at the protocols in use in surfing - you need LDAP/AD to log into windows domain. Then you use DNS to resolve an IP (perhaps via a corporate web proxy). Then HTTP/HTTPS to access the page.
Now think what tools the domain admins might use to administer their network - RDP? SSH? Web services on high ports?
I think I've gone into enough detail for now... I can tunnel out almost any network these days, but I don't think it is sensible, wise, nor ethical to divulge this sort of thing.
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Hmmm... It's possible. If they use deep packet filtering it may be hard. But anything is possible...
I won't go into details, of getting round things, as it is my job to stop people getting round them, and I know a load of tricks, but look at the protocols in use in surfing - you need LDAP/AD to log into windows domain. Then you use DNS to resolve an IP (perhaps via a corporate web proxy). Then HTTP/HTTPS to access the page.
Now think what tools the domain admins might use to administer their network - RDP? SSH? Web services on high ports?
I think I've gone into enough detail for now... I can tunnel out almost any network these days, but I don't think it is sensible, wise, nor ethical to divulge this sort of thing.
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True I am agree with you Pulser, thus I am really into this sort of things recently.
I am eager to learn..
Could you please recommend me a book or something (not too advanced) that would help me to understand better LDAP/AD, DNS and everything about security and networking?
I obviously wanna learn just for myself and I definitely don't want to spread or divulge in anyway bad behaviors..
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hey, i used to have a way around the school router blocks but i cant seem to remember what it was for the life of me. What it consisted was of an .exe that installed some software that allowed me to browse freely. I vaguely remember that the software consisted of a icon on the taskbar that was kinda an earth with fire around it....maybe?
if you have any other good router/server bypasses then please let me know. .exe file executions are blocked everywhere except in the technology building at school. Preferably i would like to have something only requiring a flash drive or it can be done within IE or Chrome.
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if not previously mentioned, you're looking for "Tor" which comes in both installable packages or portable exe files that can be run off flash drives and includes a custom made 'Mozilla Firefox' which comes preloaded with Tor and does not save any browsing information on your client machine, thus this program is completely anon when ran from a flash drive.
www.torproject.org and you're looking for the Stable Portable Browser Bundle
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really there is a simple way
use kon-boot and bypass admin password and change the settings
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really there is a simple way
use kon-boot and bypass admin password and change the settings
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not if he is on a school network, he would have to physically run kon-boot on the server itself which defeats the purpose because the server would already be logged in as an admin of some kind.
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My 6 year old son threw a tantrum today and destroyed my SGH-1337m's LCD. I'd like to replace it with a Google Edition S4, but I'm having a hell of a time getting to the US google play devices website. I live in Canada and somehow Google manages to detect that I'm not from the US. I have a US credit card available and I can get it shipped to a US address - I just need to be able to order the damn thing and for that I need the US Play store to think I'm in the US. But I'm having a hell of a time tricking it into believing that.
First, I tried signing out of my gmail/google account and creating a new one with 'US' as the country. No good. I still get the "Unavailable in your country" web page.
Fair enough - they're doing IP tracking, I guess, right? So I tried connecting to play.google.com through a VPN into San Francisco. This is a VPN connection that has never failed to spoof a service or website into thinking that I'm in the US. Hulu, Netflix, whatever. And yet Google still tells me that the site is "Unavailable in your country".
Someone suggested that it might be that Chrome itself is somehow tipping play.google.com off, so I tried Safari and I tried Chrome in incognito mode. No good. The GE S4 is still "Unavailable in your country".
I think to myself that this is getting kind of crazy and I look around the net for more suggestions. Someone in a stackexchange post suggests that Google is figuring this out by IP-locating not just the request that your https request came in over, but also the DNS request for play.google.com itself?
I noticed that play.google.com is just a CNAME for www3.l.google.com. When I dig for the IP address in Canada, I get play.google.com resolved to a range of addresses from 74.125.225.193 - 74.125.225.206. When I look up the DNS from the US using a website DNS lookup tool, however, play.google.com resolves to a range of addresses from 173.194.46.0 - 173.194.46.14. AHA!
So I edit my /etc/hosts file so that play.google.com always resolves to 173.194.46.0. And yet somehow, the US Google Play devices store and in it the Google Edition Galaxy S4 is still "Unavailable in your country".
Does anyone have anymore ideas?
If you can get it shipped to an address in the US, have that person order it?
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If you can get it shipped to an address in the US, have that person order it?
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Alas, I'm ordering it myself. I'm getting it shipped to Hagen's of Blaine (which is a shipping company). I live in Vancouver so I can drive over to pick it up when it arrives. And for the credit card I'm using entropay.
At this point I could probably just order a vm on a hosting service like Azure and pay from an RDP session to the VM - that would be fool-proof. But I'm really interested now in how Google is figuring out that I'm not in the U.S. Accessing their US IP addresses from an incognito window going through a VPN that's spilling my packets into the internet in San Fran should really be sufficient. But somehow they're still catching me.
I guess this is why they get paid the big bucks.
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Alas, I'm ordering it myself. I'm getting it shipped to Hagen's of Blaine (which is a shipping company). I live in Vancouver so I can drive over to pick it up when it arrives. And for the credit card I'm using entropay.
At this point I could probably just order a vm on a hosting service like Azure and pay from an RDP session to the VM - that would be fool-proof. But I'm really interested now in how Google is figuring out that I'm not in the U.S. Accessing their US IP addresses from an incognito window going through a VPN that's spilling my packets into the internet in San Fran should really be sufficient. But somehow they're still catching me.
I guess this is why they get paid the big bucks.
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I access the US Play Store while using UnblockUS service. I use the service mainly for Netflix and other television streaming sites, not specifically for the US Play Store of course
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I access the US Play Store while using UnblockUS service. I use the service mainly for Netflix and other television streaming sites, not specifically for the US Play Store of course
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Yeah - I'm using StrongVPN. I thought about trying UnblockUS, but I saw some complaints on their forums saying that Google made some sort of a change and now UnblockUS can't be used to get to the play store. The UnblockUS req said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that "accessing the Google Play Store from UblockUS isn't supported."
aichteeteepee://support.unblock-us.com/customer/portal/questions/1190342-google-play-store
So unblockus works for you? Can you access the Devices part of the Google Play store with it?
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Yeah - I'm using StrongVPN. I thought about trying UnblockUS, but I saw some complaints on their forums saying that Google made some sort of a change and now UnblockUS can't be used to get to the play store. The UnblockUS req said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that "accessing the Google Play Store from UblockUS isn't supported."
aichteeteepee://support.unblock-us.com/customer/portal/questions/1190342-google-play-store
So unblockus works for you? Can you access the Devices part of the Google Play store with it?
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The last time I attempted to access the Play Store Devices was about 3 weeks ago with UnblockUS region settings set to USA. It worked then, I'm working and won't be able to test from home again for a couple weeks though. However UnblockUS does have a free trial
hi there,
I am developing an android app and need to educate myself on how android apps are hosted.
So I read this site:
http://developer.android.com/distribute/googleplay/start.html[^]
and this site:
http://developer.android.com/distribute/tools/launch-checklist.html[^]
but my question is:
does my finished android app need to be uploaded and hosted on a server?
so when I finish developing it and am ready to deploy to google play store, do I upload my entire app on "my rented server" and then within google play store point to it?
for those of you that have uploaded apps to google play store I would really appreciate some help
another question: the android app I am developing when it opens retrieves a list of names from a database, I currently use XAMPP in which I have created a MYSQL database with a table that contains the names. When I am in my house, I can retrieve the list of names no problem using wifi or just 3g on my phone. However if I am outside and my XAMPP is turned on and then I try and open my app the listview of names is not populated.
Why is that? I am thinking its because my app is not hosted on a server itself, just the database with the names that are used in the listview grid is...
To put an app on the play store you need to upgrade your Google account to a developer account. This costs £20 if I remember correctly and allows you access to the developers console where you upload the finished app in apk format and fill out the description fields etc.
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thanks for your reply....
sure I had read what you mentioned on googles developer site.
what you are speaking about is uploading my app to google play store.
do you have any idea about these 2 questions I raise:
but my question is:
does my finished android app need to be uploaded and hosted on a server?
so when I finish developing it and am ready to deploy to google play store, do I upload my entire app on "my rented server" and then within google play store point to it?
for those of you that have uploaded apps to google play store I would really appreciate some help
another question: the android app I am developing when it opens retrieves a list of names from a database, I currently use XAMPP in which I have created a MYSQL database with a table that contains the names. When I am in my house, I can retrieve the list of names no problem using wifi or just 3g on my phone. However if I am outside and my XAMPP is turned on and then I try and open my app the listview of names is not populated.
Why is that? I am thinking its because my app is not hosted on a server itself, just the database with the names that are used in the listview grid is...
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xirokx said:
thanks for your reply....
sure I had read what you mentioned on googles developer site.
what you are speaking about is uploading my app to google play store.
do you have any idea about these 2 questions I raise:
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For the first question
does my finished android app need to be uploaded and hosted on a server?
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I'm assuming that when you say server, you mean your own server? If so then no, you can use the Google developer console to upload your app, which uploads the app to Google's servers and therefore can be viewed through the play store (if you choose to put the app in a "published" mode).
Second question:
so when I finish developing it and am ready to deploy to google play store, do I upload my entire app on "my rented server" and then within google play store point to it?
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Again, no. The only way to get apps to show up on the Play store is by getting a developer account and using the Google Play Developer Console to publish your app.
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another question: the android app I am developing when it opens retrieves a list of names from a database, I currently use XAMPP in which I have created a MYSQL database with a table that contains the names. When I am in my house, I can retrieve the list of names no problem using wifi or just 3g on my phone. However if I am outside and my XAMPP is turned on and then I try and open my app the listview of names is not populated.
Why is that? I am thinking its because my app is not hosted on a server itself, just the database with the names that are used in the listview grid is...
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The database needs to be running on a live site for you to retrieve it from anywhere.
thank you so much for your help, i really appreciate it....
can you help clarify a little further please?
currently I use Eclipse to develop in, XAMPP to host my database and a fileserver that hosts my files.
So when I debug, is the process like this:
myPhone(includes apk file) --> XAMPP(stores names and URL) --> FileServer (Retrieves URL to display in my app)
I'm assuming that when you say server, you mean your own server? If so then no, you can use the Google developer console to upload your app, which uploads the app to Google's servers and therefore can be viewed through the play store (if you choose to put the app in a "published" mode).
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so does the process when I upload my app to Googles Server look like this:
MyPhone ---> Google Server( to retrieve apk) --> FileServer (to retrieve URL to display in app)
have I understood correctly?
If so then no, you can use the Google developer console to upload your app, which uploads the app to Google's servers and therefore can be viewed through the play store
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if the above process that includes google server is correct, is there a way I can upload my app to google server without releasing on play store for debugging purposes.
Currently I use XAMPP to host my database on my PC, does this mean I would need to upload XAMPP on google server so that it can retrieve the names and URL I have stored in the phpMyAdmin SQL database?
If the answer to the above is yes, does this mean I need to upload XAMPP to Google Server so it can connect to my FileServer?
The database needs to be running on a live site for you to retrieve it from anywhere.
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So I take it using XAMPP means the database is not running on a "live site" ??
How can I host my database live? currently I start XAMPP then use:
localhost/phpmyadmin to log into my SQL database....
Do you mean I need to upload that SQL database to lets say my FileServer so it is live and therefore takes XAMPP out of the process and means I can access my APP (in debug mode) from anywhere?
So sorry I am confused about how google server, XAMPP and my SQL database work...
Thanks for your patience, please continue to help me...
Thank you so much
can anyone please kindly help?
thank you
xirokx said:
can anyone please kindly help?
thank you
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Depends on what you plan to build
If it can work offline then you generally do not need to rent a server.
If you intent to make MMO online game, chat site, dating site, your own social networking site.. then you will need to rent a server.
Whether or not need a server for the above purposes. Your app is generally hosted on a Google Play server, and be visible to people with play-store apps (technically visible as your app is hard to search for at the beginning, this is another story)
If your app is more than 50mb.. Then you will need your own server. To host the package, containing any data in excess of 50mb. Google will host the first 50mb for you. Your users will have to go start your app to get the rest from your server.
You might want to have your own server for own custom licensing validation and IAP purchasing checks, only if you don't think the google's solution is sufficient.
You can also host on Amazon.
hotspot_volcano said:
Depends on what you plan to build
If it can work offline then you generally do not need to rent a server.
If you intent to make MMO online game, chat site, dating site, your own social networking site.. then you will need to rent a server.
Whether or not need a server for the above purposes. Your app is generally hosted on a Google Play server, and be visible to people with play-store apps (technically visible as your app is hard to search for at the beginning, this is another story)
If your app is more than 50mb.. Then you will need your own server. To host the package, containing any data in excess of 50mb. You might want to have your own server for own custom licensing validation and IAP purchasing checks, only if you don't think the google's solution is insufficient.
You can also host on Amazon.
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Thanks for your reply
I was hoping for more specific answers in relation to my specific questions...
Well your later questions are more specifically hosting questions less about android related issues
Advice to you is to turn of wifi on your phone, when your are inside and see if you can access your XAMP server.
Can you ping your server IP address (not the local IP 192.168.0.X, assuming its your home server.
Does your ISP allow you to use your home Internet to host a server accessible on the internet? (as above)