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Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures. The Problem is they seem to be for people who can't get TomTom working at all. I can get it working, just awkwardly.
Once I pair with my GPS receiver and go into TomTom i can get a connection. However when i quit TomTom and turn off the GPS it seems to forget. Next time I turn it on I don't get a connection.
The way I understand TomTom is that it seems to wait for the GPS receiver to contact the phone. This seems odd as I would have thought the phone would be the one to initiate contact.
Anyway my GPS receiver just seems to forget what phone it was connected to. TomTom obviously isn't forgetting the port, windows obviously isn't forgetting the pairing. But Every time I use it I have to re-pair the receiver (thus reminding the receiver of the phone it's supposed to be bonded to). It's beginning to drive me a bit insane.
Anyone else have this issue? Perhaps it's to do with my incoming and outcoming ports? Hopefully someone has already solved this? Not seen any references to it anywhere.
Lewis
Hello,
Which version of Tomtom are you using ? The last one (5.21) ? If not, try to upgrade and try again.
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
BigDamHero said:
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
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Don't mean to be picky, but 5.2 or 5.21?
I've held off installing TTN on my Wizard, as it works fine on my iPAQ 4700, I have a cradle for that, and according to ttcode, my current device is actually my old 3970, not the current iPAQ... Last week, I had a couple of hour drive to do, so I thought I'd give it a whirl. After an email exchange with TomTom support (who were more helpful than I'd originally given them credit for), I had a new activation code for the Wizard. Here's what I did, from a fairly recent hard reset with no previous TTN install whatsoever. Skip the mail if it doesn't look helpful, but I'll detail my steps in case it helps anyone else...
Although I believe the PC install is mended in 5.21 I copied the map and voice cab files from the CD to my SD card and installed them from there. The GPS drivers and main app I installed from the download I got from the TomTom support site by running the setup util on my PC. Once everything was installed, I moved the maps which seemed to finish up in a sub-directory on the card to the root of the card.
I paired the GPS (my old Emtac BT one) and selected serial port profile. I tried all the offered serial ports in the "Other BT GPS" list in TTN but none worked. Then I went to 'COM Ports' in Comm Manager/Bluetooth Settings and selected "New Outgoing Port". I picked the GPS from the list of paired SPP devices, and it created a new BT COM port on COM6. That definately hadn't been in TTN's list of BT com ports before, but is now there in the list with about half a dozen others. I selected that in the "Other BT GPS" list of BT ports, and TTN connects to the GPS each time.
As I said, I'd recently hard reset the device to try and prove a problem with my BT car-kit soit's quite possible the clean install was the secret, but try creating a new outgoing COM port against the GPS and see if TT remembers that...
Dox
BigDamHero said:
Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures.
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Which?
There are 2 general ways to set it up, 1 works 100% (i use it so know it does ) 1 i dont use and have never tried so may well work in the reverse direction and be causing you errors.
The way i set up tomtom; pair the BT GPS. Open an OUTGOING port to the BT GPS, set my GPS as OTHER (wired/cable) NEMA device (NOT bluetooth) in TTN5. now my tomtom connects to the bluetooth, not the otherway round. This method has thrown up no errors for me at all.
If you have followed the reg edit/hack to show the GPS page in connections then i dont know how the settings differ and the possible results this could have on connection issues.
Let us know which way you are going
I have the exact problem as BigDamHero. Each time I wanna use TTN, I need to delete the previously paired BT GPS and then pair it again, otherwise the TTN will just say No GPS Device. I use TTN v5.21 and Wizard with Windows Mobile 5. I tried my BT GPS device on my brother's PDA which runs on Windows Mobile 3, and it connects like a gem every time. I am also looking if anyone has solved this issue, cos it is tedious re-pairing every time.
Had the same problem until 5 mins ago! Found an explanation in another thread, but only in Dutch..
Here's how to do it:
Turn on GPS
Activate bluetooth on device, go to BT parameters, delete previous pairing like you're used to
Create new pairing, choose GPS, enter passkey, check Serial port in services, go to COM ports and add outgoing port (e.g. COM6) like you're still used to :roll:
Add an incoming port too (e.g. COM7) <-- Here's the trick!
Set your GPS apps to use COM6 (the outgoing one)... and here you are! This time it will work, you can turn off GPS and device bluetooth, turn on again and it will connect by itself.
If you want a bit more you can activate GPS panel, set program port to COM8 (then you will have to use this in your apps) and COM6 as hardware port.
Everything works fine now!
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
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hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
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I did everything in the list except for creating the incoming port and it still works everytime (I know that's no consellation to you). I wonder if something else you've installed, or the way you installed the app is causing the problem? Is it worth a hard reset and trying the entire install on a clean wizard?
Dox
A friend didn't need the incoming port either. I believe it has something to do with the GPS, as he has a different brand than me.
With mine, before adding the incoming port if I started an app without erasing/redoing the pairing before I would get a notification saying "Navman GPS wants to connect" and asking me to pair. It would keep coming every 10 seconds whatever I did.
BigDamHero, what brand / model of GPS is it?
Maybe we can see if anybody here, or over on pocketgpsworld has been able to make the same combination work and if so, what they had to do to get it to fly...
Dox.
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
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well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
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A quick glance at pocketgps suggests others are having similar issues. There's a thread here that suggests leaving it a while, and I seem to remember other GPS issue threads saying power up the GPS and let it get a fix before starting TTN. A more detailed probe round the forum will probably show more of the same.
Dox
I've just flashed my Qtek 9100 to a new ROM, (the O2 one), and since then I've been getting this same problem. With my previous ROM everything worked fine. I was able to turn of either my PDA or GPS, and they would always auto-reconnect in a few seconds. Looks to me like something broke during one of the ROM changes. Which ROM versions does everyone with/without this problem have?
By the way, I have a BT77 GPS.
Hey sorry for the total lack of reply. Been snowed under with exams.
Ok I tried most of what you guys said but didn`t work. BT ports aren't available to select as hardware ports.
However I have managed to solve it. The key was to pair the GPS, and create an UNENCRYPTED OUTGOING port. That's all. Previously I had encrypted ports outgoing and incoming. My GPS applet in control pannel is set to none so it,s nothing to do with that.
I don't know what my GPS is. Its unbranded. One of the cheap common ones.
Hope this helps some people with the same problem.
Lewis
Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA
please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal
I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.
I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.
my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.
Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.
8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!
My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.
Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance
Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.
Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal
Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.
Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.
Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either
this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10
drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....
Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying
Hi,
This thread might be ELF specific related as on other devices the problem with the same GPS receivers is not happening!
I own 2 Elf's one running plain original rom and one running Touch Surface and 2 different Bluetooth GPS receivers one is an Adapt AD850 and an el cheapo one GPS20C orso both of them are using passkey's of 4 digits.
I have now for an huge time problems with TomTom connecting to the GPS. It connects sometimes but looses the connection direct after an few seconds. Then it takes ages to get an reconnection or sometimes it won't connect even. But when it has an connection it seems to work fine and i can navigate for hours.
If i switch off orso and want to reconnect the same problems but sometimes it connect directly and works perfect.
When i have connection problems some things might seem to help to get an connection: Switch GPS off and on, Setup in TomTom the GPS again, Disable and enable Bluetooth.
I have tried to pair different times with the GPS but this makes no difference and it also make no difference which GPS i use or wich Elf i use.
The most strange in the whole story is that i previously had an GPS that needed no pass key for pairing and never had these problems. Also the TomTom version makes no differens. Offcourse i tried on one elf various roms and radio versions but this makes no difference.
Oh well maybe santa is bringing me an real navi system
Thanx,
Jerome
This may be obvious but its worth me saying - have you got the phone enabled?
Reason is I often turn my phone off and use my Touch as a mp3 player / video etc and when i fire up the tomtom and GPS reciever if the phone is in an off state then totmtom never gets a proper connection. I spent ages trying to figure out why it only worked sometimes and the realised it was due to the phone connection. Why tomtom needs the phone on I dont know but it wont work otherwise.
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This may be obvious but its worth me saying - have you got the phone enabled?
Reason is I often turn my phone off and use my Touch as a mp3 player / video etc and when i fire up the tomtom and GPS reciever if the phone is in an off state then totmtom never gets a proper connection. I spent ages trying to figure out why it only worked sometimes and the realised it was due to the phone connection. Why tomtom needs the phone on I dont know but it wont work otherwise.
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Ok will try this later and will report back here.
Poirt said:
Ok will try this later and will report back here.
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Well no solution .. still drops GPS connections and take ages before getting an connection.
Have overclocked the Elf to 273 Mhz now and seems an bit more stable so might be an TomTom Issue with high cpu usage ?
Hi, i recently got a HTC HD Touch on Orange which i bought on ebay. The phone already came loaded with WM 6.5 on and so far i love it except for one problem. I have a Datsun 350z with intergrated bluetooth. When i tried to search on my phone it couldnt see anything, so this morning i upgraded my phones ROM to the latest Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5. Since then i can search and find the bluetooth device of the car, input the pin code for it and it is added in my devices tab, however nothing appears in the "Select services to use from this device" section.
I am wondering if nyone had any idea if i am doing something wrong or whether its jsut that my car doesnt support the phone? I was also thinking about reverting back to WM6.1, would that work? Also, how do i go about getting a vanilla copy of WM 6.1?
Any help would be much appreciated,
Regards
jc0r
Just a quick update. I can get the phone to connect to the bluetooth module in the car but its not easy. Basically when i put the keys in ignition that bluetooth gets power, i then have to quickly search for bluetooth devices on my phone and then it will connect. Would be nice if the phone just connected everytime to the car like my Blackberry did. Is this hardware or software problem please?
Not that anyone actually cares about my problem but i thought i post the answer up for anyone that might be struggling in future.
What was stopping my Bluetooth working with my car was having WiFi on. When i disable WiFi the car + phone works perfectly together. In my particular situation i use my phone to connect to an ad-hoc network, and because the phone is not connected to the ad-hoc when in my car the searching constantly is causing the problem. Whether this would be the same with infrustucture mode im not sure.
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
I have exactly the same issue. The HTC HD2 works ok for calls etc but the phone book upload is "please wait" forever. Very annoying. I have the standard up to date ROM and BMW X5 2009 model. Any help would be great.
Thanks
mrickenbach said:
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
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So any ideas? Now we are already two you can make happy! Thanks
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
HD2_Noob said:
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
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I have a 2008 BMW, and I did experience this the first time..I sat there waiting for a few mins adn then got bored...but after I had turned the car off, been away and come back..it transferred straightaway.
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
Works fine here with a BMW 5x from 2008.. Using miris 6.5.x ROM
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
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Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
schrej said:
Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
bmw
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Which ROM do you use 1.66? or earlier? With my earlier ROM I had no problems, but since I upgraded to 1.66 (German), the phonebook does not transfer...
Bluetooth auto control problem
I can’t control my bluetooth (on/off) when using Inesoft phone profiles/controls; I have also tried other programs but no success(in another program the window of bluetooth was disabled); through all programs, I could control phone, WIFI, and gprs but not the Bluetooth. The only way to turn the Bluetooth on/ off is the Comm Manager (Manually); could anyone help please. Thanks
2006 bmw
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
zipolly said:
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
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thank you, I am glad it worked for you...you must have a newer generation ULF than me then.
Is your phone HD2? mine is Toshiba TG01..I have managed to make it work 50/50 of the times, but I do not know WHAT CHANGES are between it working and not working...it is very frustating to know (and experience it working) that it can/should work, but not being able to
I have a new HTC Mini HD and have the same problems with my 2009 BMW 3. BT Headset function works just fine, but iDrive keeps trying to sync the telephone book, unsuccesfull. Instead, my phone's battery gets drained. Anyone any sollutions?
Unfortunately I don't have an answer for your question, but it sounds like it might have something to do with the bluetooth stack used for that ROM/Radio not being recognized by the car. Perhaps the layer that deals with data transfer is removed. Sorry I can't be of more help here.
What I can do to help is to offer a warning. I am a former BMW Client Advisor, and have been told many, many times by service technicians that using phones which are not specifically approved by BMW can affect your car's ECU (brain) and if it needs to be repaired or replaced, it will not be covered under warranty. That could be just nonsense to force you into buying only phones which BMW has tested (or vendors have paid for a marketing fee), or it might be spot on, in which case you run a pretty big risk.
Hope this helps.
OK, problem solved. BMW updated my carsoftware to its newest version last week and now my HD2 works perfectly with my car (again). I can make calls AND my phonebook is synced as well.
Hint1: Try if your phonebook sync problem exists with the SIM contacts as well as with the phone contacts
Hint 2: worldwideweb.bmw.com/com/de/owners/navigation/bluetooth/compatibility_check_intro.html
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
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i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Hi All,
I have a BMW X5 2005 model. I can pair the phone OK but it constantly disconnects and reconnects once the transfer of the phonebook occurs. The phonebook transfers always start from scratch when this happens and nothing gets loaded to the car's phonebook.
If a call comes in, or if I make a call while it is connected (like within 5 seconds) the phone stays connected for the duration of the call.
I have tried all the Regisrty tweaks and none change the behaviour.
I also read it is because the HD2 uses Widcomm BT stack and not the MS BT Stack.
Zippolly and a_petrov303 and all those that have it working, can you please tell me which Rom you are using? I am using the latest Energy's 6.5.x rom. i noticed someone mentioned Miri's 6.5.x Rom works.
Thanks,
Rob
I have a 07 E60. The HD2 pairs fine, synchs contacts fine, but the sound quality is so bad it's not useable. Of course bmw says it's not a compatible phone, but I think there is a problem with the car as my Diamond won't find it, even though it is supposed to be supported
its mainly due to the car bluetooth, BMW etc don't make the car kit mostly siemens do and they are slow on the uptake of doing updates.
anybody found a snap-in for the hd2 yet?
I have a 7-series F01 and it is really annoying to have to deal with that usb cable...
Ontopic
I had the BT problem too, deleting the profile and repairing the phone did the trick for me...