I installed Cyanogen Rom v4.0.1 and successfully partition sd card with fat32/ext4/swap. Afterward, I realize there are over 300MB in the /data/.
It seems like for normal usage (not excess # of app installed), It doesn't really need to use App2SD and the internal memory should be sufficient space. That should make the phone more stable and speeder since it doesn't depend on the sdcard at all. I dont' plan to install Hero since i won't need the /swap.
What do you think?
going from using no apps to sd to using apps to sd I find that everything seems to run faster for me. Yes i tested it.
That is very interesting. I wonder why app2sd to faster? I mean the sd card IS slower than the internal flash memory.
It's not necessary for Magic/MyTouch3g. It was designed for HTC Dream which has a small amount of storage for apps, Magic does not have that problem.
im running qtek hero rom...how could i disable/remove a2sd?
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waacow said:
I installed Cyanogen Rom v4.0.1 and successfully partition sd card with fat32/ext4/swap. Afterward, I realize there are over 300MB in the /data/.
It seems like for normal usage (not excess # of app installed), It doesn't really need to use App2SD and the internal memory should be sufficient space. That should make the phone more stable and speeder since it doesn't depend on the sdcard at all. I dont' plan to install Hero since i won't need the /swap.
What do you think?
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Installed Rom fine. Having some issue with Sync Calendar but otherwise great. Question: How do I partition SD Card with fat32/ext4/swap???
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Installed Rom fine. Having some issue with Sync Calendar but otherwise great. Question: How do I partition SD Card with fat32/ext4/swap???
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The easiest way is to fastboot Amon_RA's recovery.img, there is an option in there to create and format the partitions, you just select it with the trackball.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492
I'm running Cyanogen's 4.2.7.1 already but wish to partition my sd card to take advantage of swap, ext3 etc, Do i need to re flash the ROM after the partion is created for the ROM to recognise the partitions and use swap etc or can this be done after the rom is loaded.
Sorry to be a tard but still fairly new to this game, hope this all makes sense!!!!
You should be able to do it after the fact or before. It really shouldn't matter. I used AmonRA's recovery image and the options to partition your card are right on the recovery screen. They are standard settings if you want to change them (ie. ext3 to ext4 or amount of swap) you'll most likely need to run the SDK from your computer. I used a little program called sdparted. I know they make an app for swap space, but you can change it from the SDK also. Hope this helps.
I'm using Amon Ra's recovery so AFAIK sdparted is intergrated into it. So do I uninstall all my apps then redownload they, Will they install in the the right partition? Not exactly sure I fully understand the concept as yet...
Hello. I am struggling with this for three days now. I can't seem to make it work. So I think I need a detailed how-to because obviously I am doing something wrong.
I am using this clockwork recovery image: http://android.modaco.com/content/z...27215/oled-tft-2-5-1-8-clockworkmod-recovery/
Then I go to clockwork recovery mode and create 1GB ext partition. Wipe everything from everywhere.
After that I install paul's alpha3 prebake.
What happens is I have 1GB less storage on my class4 8GB SD, but don't see the ext3 partition (where should I look for it exactly)
In normal use the only way you'll know if its working or not is if you run out of space or not.
To find your ext partition look in '/sd-ext' or '/system/sd', you might need a file explorer that can use root privileges, I use estrongs. If the directories 'app' and 'app-private' are there then its working.
If your still sure its not working double check that the prebaked version comes with apps2sd...not all do.
Thank you. I think the prebaked alpha3 version doesn't have the apps2sd scripts. I tried to install Darktremor Apps2SD 2.7.5.2 but it killed my OS and had to flash it again. So is there any specific a2SD that I can use with this rom?
OK. I installed the Japanese jellyfish ROM yesterday and everything works like a charm so I guess prebaked alpha3 didn't have the apps2sd scripts.
Thank you again for your help, mate!
what is apps2ext?
It basically gets some storage space from the SD card and lies the system that it's part of the apps section of the internal memory
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It basically gets some storage space from the SD card and lies the system that it's part of the apps section of the internal memory
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so it is basically like a different storage architecture for the SD card? Like we can have fat32, ntfs etc?
I am no expert here. From what I know - scripts create some symlinks so the app storage is actually placed on the sd, but the system doesn't know that and thinks it is still the old place. The path is the same, but it actually is something like a shortcut. The ext is probably because it needs to be linix partition or something...
This is what I think and it may not be true however
I have a rooted phone and have Apps2sd but can only move some apps to the sd card,can someone explain why they all cannot move to the SD card?
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Do you refer to stock froyo Apps2SD?
It can only be officially moved to sd if the apps built to do so.
However, u can force it using Titanium Backup or tools with similar features
I`m running the latest version of WildPuzzle rom, and have titanium backup but didn`t know it could be used to put apps to the sd card
with titnanium backup, menu->batch->move user apps to sd card. Then select which apps u want to move. Only use this method if not using widgets from the apps.
if you have ext partition, may want to try nice solution from Darktremor Apps2SD. Be sure to backup your rom before flashing it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925982
Hi many thanks for that.When you say only move apps that you are not using widgets from do you mean the ones that have shortcuts on the screen like messaging , dialler etc?
Sorry but i`m new to android and slowly getting my head around what you can do with it
It refers to applications such as: weather, clock ... if you hold down menu appears where you can choose the widgets, those applications should not be moved because the widgets do not work restart the phone, to be added again.
But you can try this "[ROM] [11.03] InsertCoin A2SD v0.2 Beta" (I use it and she looks like). He inclusively A2SD which uses the Linux ext2 partition, partition is not affected by the restart, widgets do not lose. Before installing this ROM you need to create ext2 partition on the sd card (512 mb enough), you can create the partition with: rom manager (market downoad) or Paragon Partition Manager if you use Windows OS. Format SD CARD WARNING LEADING TO LOSS OF DATA, CREATE A BACKUP BEFORE create partitions EXT2, FAT.
press the 1.2gb ext partition. Use that tool. I tried paragon, it is not working.
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While restarting windows - software to complete the ext2 partition, it reactivated undeder Connect to pc disk drive option, in order to complete ext2 paragon manager. So running at me.
I've owned my OG EVO since launch day, and have been rooted/flashing various ROMs ever since.
I've always had the app "App2SD" loaded, to make moving apps to external storage easier.
Looking at flashing other ROMs recently, I noticed some talk about supporting A2SD naively, and scripts and such. What is the difference between using the app or this naive solution?
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The app ur referring to only moves the data for apps to the SD card, if u use dark tremors a2sd it moves the entire app and all its data. U must have a partitioned SD card to use it though.
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Hmmm... So DarkTremors A2SD is something that is built into the ROM? I guess I'm wondering how one would utilize that built-in capability after the ROM is loaded...
I didn't realize the Apps2SD only moved the data. It seemed to move the app too by looking at free space and how it was affected by using it...
if i understand it right... its not "included" in the rom. You need to download and flash the script, but the rom and kernel of most roms support it. It is well worth it. I did this not long after rooting. I partitioned my 32GB sdcard and flashed DT a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938
Thanks for the link I've seen a boat load of posts scattered about but never saw one dedicated topic. Looks like I have some reading to do so I can figure out what, if any, drawbacks or quirks there are to using this.
Thanks again!
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So I've made it through a couple of pages on the linked thread, and the answer may be there (but I haven't gotten to it yet)... How does partitioning the SD card affect Nandroid backups/restore or Titanium Backup, if at all? I know that Nandroid has an "SD-ext" option... I assume this is for backup/restore of the EXT formatted portion of the card? Are Nandroid backups stored on the FAT formatted partitions still?
Sorry for all of the questions; just things I thought of before trudging through 34 pages of forum posts...
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Am i able to do this with the stock sd card that came with the evo ?
Yes, but unless your ROM supports Dark Tremors A2SD, the system won't be able to utilize the EXT formatted space on the card, from what I am gathering...
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im running Miui. Think it supports it. Its just the how.
Unfortunately,I can't answer that yet. Haven't read enough of the previously linked forum topic
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Nandroid and tb remain on the storage partition, the FATS32 or whichever one your recovery uses. The ext- partition holds just the apps and data. Wont affect your backups in any way to my knowledge. Remember to back up all your data you want to keep to your pc or something before partitioning as it formats your sd card first.
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Nandroid and tb remain on the storage partition, the FATS32 or whichever one your recovery uses. The ext- partition holds just the apps and data. Wont affect your backups in any way to my knowledge. Remember to back up all your data you want to keep to your pc or something before partitioning as it formats your sd card first.
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Thanks for the info!
Ive been using DT Apps2sd for a while now. I have the stock 8gb card that came with my evo and its partitioned for apps2sd. From what Ive always understood, what apps2sd does is it moves all your apps and the data for those apps to the ext partition of your sd card and it symlinks the apps to the phone so the phone actually thinks the apps are running from the internal memory even though it isn't. The advantage of the symlink is that it doesn't affect the apps' performance and widgets and such. The apps2sd app you speak of only moves the data to the sd card which can sometimes cause issues with apps' performance and widgets not working correctly. So, I recommend using DT apps2sd if you want more internal space without sacrificing performance.
Nice explanation I think my confusion had always been how it's utilized; with the app, I open it when I want to move something and it does it. With DT, it looks like you flash it, but after that I'm lost... Does it automatically install all apps to the SD anytime I initiate an installer action? Or do I need to do something to have the system install to the SD?
I'll find the answer in my reading I'm sure. Another 25ish pages, according to Tapatalk on my phone
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Also am trying to find how to install this... Do you flash the ROM, flash A2SD, then simply reboot and all is well (assuming the ROM supports A2SD, and mounts SD-EXT during boot)?
here is some more info from what i understand. flash your rom, flash dt a2sd and reboot. once its all set, it automatically installs apps you download to the ext partition. also... if you decide to change roms, it is recommended to wipe the ext partition, but i never do and have had no issues. The only thing i have to do is once the new rom and a2sd are flashed and i reboot i have to install the terminal app and open it up any type the following commands...
su [ENTER]
a2sd reinstall [ENTER]
this reinstally the links to the apps... you can also move dalvik cache to the sd to free up more space.
a2sd cachesd [ENTER]
another helpful tool to make sure cache and apps are on the ext partition is apps2sd gui
you can get it from the market and it is just a graphical interface
here is a partitioning walkthrough if you need it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
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Nice explanation I think my confusion had always been how it's utilized; with the app, I open it when I want to move something and it does it. With DT, it looks like you flash it, but after that I'm lost... Does it automatically install all apps to the SD anytime I initiate an installer action? Or do I need to do something to have the system install to the SD?
I'll find the answer in my reading I'm sure. Another 25ish pages, according to Tapatalk on my phone
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After you flash DT, you would want to download terminal emulator from the play store and type the following commands:
Type "su" then enter
Then type "a2sd reinstall" (without the "" of course lol) then enter
After you do that, let the phone do its thing and it will reboot. After the reboot, you are good. All your apps should be moved to the ext partition on your sd card. If you want, you can also move your dalvik-cache to the ext partition by typing the following commands:
"su", enter
"a2sd cachesd", enter
Just like before, your phone will do its thing in terminal emulator and then it will reboot. After that, you're good! You should notice a HUGE difference in available internal storage after this.
*EDIT: I didn't even notice the post above mine until after i sent the post lol
dbenney/youngchris: You guys/girls (hey, I don't know...) put the missing pieces together for me I didn't realize that you had to run commands in terminal AFTER flashing your ROM and then DT (I've seen references to commands, but thought that they were similar to the old rooting/flashing guides back in the day, that required ADB push/pull commands before flashable zips became the norm). So...
There were a few ROMs I flashed 6 months or so ago, that 'required' A2SD and I didn't do it. Subsequently, the ROMs didn't have much free space, with all of the Sense 3.0-3.5, and ran like ****, so I went back to CM7. Now, I am putting this together, so I can get the E4G decked out (because we all know our EVOlt won't be around for a while) and am looking for sharp looking/behaving ROMs to make this old beast happy, and keep me satisfied until Customs gets off their lazy asses.
I just have to find a ROM that is nice enough now
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dbenney/youngchris: You guys/girls (hey, I don't know...) put the missing pieces together for me I didn't realize that you had to run commands in terminal AFTER flashing your ROM and then DT (I've seen references to commands, but thought that they were similar to the old rooting/flashing guides back in the day, that required ADB push/pull commands before flashable zips became the norm). So...
There were a few ROMs I flashed 6 months or so ago, that 'required' A2SD and I didn't do it. Subsequently, the ROMs didn't have much free space, with all of the Sense 3.0-3.5, and ran like ****, so I went back to CM7. Now, I am putting this together, so I can get the E4G decked out (because we all know our EVOlt won't be around for a while) and am looking for sharp looking/behaving ROMs to make this old beast happy, and keep me satisfied until Customs gets off their lazy asses.
I just have to find a ROM that is nice enough now
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There are plenty of good sense roms out there, but you really should try this one... Energy sense 3.5 rom march 15.... i used it before i switched to CIUI(base of CM7 with MIUI look/feel). Energy rom is very stable and fast, but also heavy and a2sd is a must to free up some space.
Do you know of any kernels that work with it? It uses the stock kernel, which, from what I've read, doesn't support DT A2SD...
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