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Very Strange problem

Hi! I was using the device normally. Suddenly, all of sudden, the screen went on full brightness and the device started vibrating oddly. A pop-up message came on the screen notifying me,"main battery very low". The battery was 91%. My unit is just 2months old. Also, one more pop-up comes which says,"unidentified USB device".
Also, I went to the settings>>memory. Strangely, it showed the memory devided into 2parts(just like WM2003)
So, I got 3 questions..
1)Anyone got any clue what/why happened?
2)Has anyone else experienced this?
3)What can I do to avoid this problem in future?
I have been an active member in the forums. But, this problem is something, I have never heard of. Please help

I had something similar and I put it down to an application I used to close programs instead of minimising them. I had the full brightness, and the memory panel showing the old WM2003 screen with the slider to adjust between programs and storage.
Have you been doing anything similar? If so try it for a while without the app that closes programs, and let WM look after its memory.
Hope this helps
Matt

matt1971 said:
I had something similar and I put it down to an application I used to close programs instead of minimising them. I had the full brightness, and the memory panel showing the old WM2003 screen with the slider to adjust between programs and storage.
Have you been doing anything similar? If so try it for a while without the app that closes programs, and let WM look after its memory.
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Exactly, it happened to me just 1day after I uninstalled Wisbar Advance2. Actually, I m software reviewer too and I try out many apps(was trying the official beta of handyswitcher from past two days). Handyswitcher used to minimise the apps and let them run in the background.
But, now, wisbar advance is up again and so far so good because now I close all the apps after I use them
Still curious to know why it happens? And what are you doing to stay out of this problem?

i got it too once, no idea why it happens though...

Midget_1990 said:
i got it too once, no idea why it happens though...
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Which task manager do you use?(considering the fact that you dont get this 'odd' screen now). Also, were you using a task manager at that time?
Looks like the people who are letting the windows manage the memory are more prone to it(?)
BTW, congrats on becoming a MOD *clap* *clap* *clap*

I've had the same problem with mine too... sometimes when im writing a semi-long email or txt, the screen goes to full brightness, then ANY program i try to load, says its unsigned... all the text goes white, and i have to reboot to get back to normal.... PLUS i'll lose any recently saved txts/emails/notes :S
REALLY annoying... no ones every come up with an explanation :S
Plus i don't have any extra installed apps, and ive tried several different ROMs... so hmmmm weird!

Just happened again ASA I had taken-off wisbar advance 2 for a while.
Grrrr..
It appears that it happens when you leave multiple apps in the background. Second reason can be, what Pooper said that it mostly happens when you are typing a SMS in messaging app.
Interestingly, this never happens, when the device is in Tablet(portait) mode
Now, activated wisbar advance again, no problem. But, it takes away lots of precious RAM

I think WM6 beta is better choice to avoid the issue. I use WM6 CE 5.2.1413 (internal 17913.0.3.0) rom 2.21.01 CHS (S-Chinese). I have not ocurred the issue you have mentioned. good luck.

hmm this is annoying- new rom problem

So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?

Right now, I have many many ways of turning on the GPS from standby.
So this is my fun part right now.
I got GPSGate, Google Map and AstroGPSLauncher to launch the GPS.
iGuidance 4 need alot of help to get going. iNAV need to work on this fast.
Other than that, it has been OK. I like the upload speed. It make my Remote Desktop more lively OK.
I think life is OK. This is something new on the Mogul, so I can understand it. It can only gets better.

trekkiemogul said:
So I put the new rom on my mogul. Love the gps. Love the task manager. However, I've run into a few problems that I would like to see if anyone else has encountered:
When i open an sms..it shows me the bottom of the screen..and not the message. not a deal breaker, but annoying.
i had just installed the rom. nothing on it... didn't even put my sd card in. soft reseted around five time to make sure... but when doing ABSO-FRICKING-LUTELY NOTHING the 68-78% of my program memory is occupied. wtf.
you too?
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SMS scrolling to the bottom upon opening a message is a known side-effect of the registry edit that changes the 4-way navigation button to scroll instead of tab to the next link on a page. HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Navigation\4-Way Nav; 0 will scroll (and open SMS messages at the bottom), 1 will tab
I am running the OEM 3.35 ROM, with all of the Sprint customizations, and on a fresh soft reset I have 22.56MB free memory. After a day of calls, text messages, and web surfing, I usually have 16 to 18MB free. Are you running the stock ROM or a custom ROM? Have you done any registry edits that would affect the free memory, such as changing cache sizes? Also, did you do an extra hard reset after flashing the ROM?

I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?

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muyoso said:
I am having none of the problems you are describing. Where is the option on the poll for "Yes, because these problems don't exist for the rest of us"?
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I agree...new ROM great behavior...this is by far the best that Sprint has done thus far for the Titan, even stock it runs great. I just installed SPB and my memory stays at or near 18-20 and battery never dies on me.
"Yes, because these problems don't exist for me"

i updated wednesday and i use codyppc threaded sms so i dont know about the text prob. but i dont experience any different mem loss than Mario but i dont like that they integrated the tm into the rom cuz i didnt use that either but thats my only issue

well bah. i guess i get the "i just suck" title. i have a severe love hate relationship with this phone,. heh.

[APP][21/11/2008] NoTSR - A very little tool to restore memory

Hi.
When using my Diamond I noticed some processes don't disappear when they should. They fill up memory. Either you kill 'em with some Task Manager, or you soft reset.
Don't wanna SR or kill processes manually? Let my thing do it for you!
NoTSR is a very very simple program which kills some predefined processes, based on my experience with Diamond.
Source code (eVC++ 4) is for you to use and modify whatever you want. However, it would be nice if you gave me some credit if using it!
Have fun!
p. s. Sorry for the icon.

If anyone is wondering, this is what it kills off (copied straight from the source code):
"Opera9.exe", // everything still loads well
"OperaPreL.exe", // after killing them
"pword.exe", // for some reason Pocket Word leaves its process even after leaving
"CommManager.exe", // other Office apps seem to be fixed
"AudioManager_eng.exe", // last ones are opened by manila for quicker loading of tabs.
"AlbumSearcher.exe" // killing AudioManager stops music and rewinds current track.

I keep getting a "Can't list processes" dialog box when I launch the app. I tried placing the NoTSR.exe within in the extracted NoTSR subdirectory and also outside the subdirectory.

JNGold said:
I keep getting a "Can't list processes" dialog box when I launch the app. I tried placing the NoTSR.exe within in the extracted NoTSR subdirectory and also outside the subdirectory.
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I can confirm that.
What did we wrong? Do we have to place it in a special folder, like windows?

It worked for me, but my phone was very sluggish after running the app and I had to soft reset to bring it back to par.
Thanks for starting this development, there is definitely a gap to be filled by it, I use oxios hibernate and a task manager to finish off opera .exe, this is much easier to use and your icons not so bad either!

uniqueboy said:
It worked for me, but my phone was very sluggish after running the app and I had to soft reset to bring it back to par.
Thanks for starting this development, there is definitely a gap to be filled by it, I use oxios hibernate and a task manager to finish off opera .exe, this is much easier to use and your icons not so bad either!
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Thanks for positive feedback. I wonder why th sluggish reaction. Loading of opera as well as some TF3D tabs will for sure be slower, but whole phone is weird. After all, it just kills and leaves (see src if unsure). I use NoTSR myself and I got no problems at all. Maybe you could test it again and if it slows down show the list of processes?
@others: try using the app with rest closed. It should work in any folder; I keep it in my docs and launch via Start.
Thanks again for interest!

same error message for me. sprint touch pro with jd6.1 rom

I can't reproduce that error to analyze and fix it, so I post new version which tells you what went wrong. Try with it.

trying now

kosherpig said:
Thanks for positive feedback. I wonder why th sluggish reaction. Loading of opera as well as some TF3D tabs will for sure be slower, but whole phone is weird. After all, it just kills and leaves (see src if unsure). I use NoTSR myself and I got no problems at all. Maybe you could test it again and if it slows down show the list of processes?
@others: try using the app with rest closed. It should work in any folder; I keep it in my docs and launch via Start.
Thanks again for interest!
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OK, so I've been using the NoTSR app for a couple of days and I can't reproduce the lag that I had when I first ran it, odd. I think it may be something to do with the fact that when I first ran it it was from within file explorer, after using it I could not get explorer to open up again properly. Now I have put a shortcut in my windows/start up/programs folder and I am running it from my start menu everything seems just fine and is all working as it should with no sluggish side effect, so thanks again kosherpig for the very useful app.

SKTools Lite (free) comes with a small program called "Free up ram." During SKTools Lite install, it will tell you something about your windows version, just click through that and let it install.
Once it's installed, go to your programs page and you'll see it there: "Free Up RAM". Just run it once. It will look like nothing is opening, but its because it's working in the background. You'll get a message box very shortly telling you how much ram (in KB) you freed up.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_lite.html
I use it all the time. Brings me from 45 -50 down to 35-40. Lowest I've seen was 32%.

Our programs are slightly different. My one doesn't free RAM by itself; it closes processes which won't close by a "close all" command. And NoTSR is not resident (after all its name is No Terminate-Stay-Resident ). Its goal is to be as small as possible, also in term of occupied disk space (~9kB now). Maybe this SKTools and NoTSR could be used in conjunction to free up even more RAM?
And, I also got the error message 2 times.
1st when I was running FM radio.
2nd when I was at the Music tab.
I solved them:
1st by closing FM radio and invoking NoTSR. Everything went OK.
2nd switched to the Home tab. NoTSR failed again. Waited some seconds, ran again. OK now.
Solution: fails? Shut everything using the HTC task manager, go to today/home screen, and invoke NoTSR after some time. I can say the behavior is really weird, since my code doesn't depend on running apps.
However, I run NoTSR everytime after using Opera. I got that error 2 times in my whole usage.
Anyways. Thanks for all responses

I find "Oxios Hibernate" frees up more ram than sk tools "free up ram" does, it is also free, but must be run manually, a useful addition to any start menu.
I'm getting about 10 mb back with NoTSR after opera browsing, "free up ram" or "hibernate" practically nothing back after opera browsing. Basically if you use opera then this is a "must have".

A small update.
If you know when Oxios Hibernate works and NoTSR fails, check this exe out. I tried to contain the Hibernate in it.
This version is bugged.
Please use version from 1st post.
If you ran this version already perform a soft reset.
Sorry for inconvinience.

chronster said:
SKTools Lite (free) comes with a small program called "Free up ram." During SKTools Lite install, it will tell you something about your windows version, just click through that and let it install.
Once it's installed, go to your programs page and you'll see it there: "Free Up RAM". Just run it once. It will look like nothing is opening, but its because it's working in the background. You'll get a message box very shortly telling you how much ram (in KB) you freed up.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_lite.html
I use it all the time. Brings me from 45 -50 down to 35-40. Lowest I've seen was 32%.
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it lowers your memory usage by 10%???
To me it goes from 63% to 61%...
On my Diamond
thats frustrating...

Hi there, trying to use this app I'm getting the same error as others...
"Can't list processes: The parameter is incorrect. (#0)"
Task Manager is empty, I've tried leaving it on the home screen for 20 secs and running it but still the same problem.
Any ideas? I'd really like to get this working as Dutty 3.1 does appear to suffer from this memory problem.
EDIT.... OK, did a reset and it's working fine. I'll play with it over the next day or so, and fingers crossed Dutty 3.1 will be good enough for me as I don't need YouTube.
EDIT2... Worked for a while, now has the same problem as earlier.

Are you using the version form 1st post?
If not, please use it.
By the way, something is really wrong... AFAIK "Invalid parameter" has error code 87, 0 is "success". I've looked at program code to see where I could mess up memory, but I saw no such places. Help with finding this bug (you've got the source) would be very appreciated.

hi kosherpig
can you add a settings file where we can put our personal process to stop?
I've try to modify the source but I'm not able to compile it

kosherpig said:
Are you using the version form 1st post?
If not, please use it.
By the way, something is really wrong... AFAIK "Invalid parameter" has error code 87, 0 is "success". I've looked at program code to see where I could mess up memory, but I saw no such places. Help with finding this bug (you've got the source) would be very appreciated.
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Hi Kosherpig, I am using the version from the 1st post.
I'm happy to help finding the bug, but not sure what to do here! I THINK it stopped working after I used TomTom7, but can't be sure.
It's only 1635 and it's down to 16% battery already (I think this is a problem with Dutty 3.1), so I don't want to do lots of tests. However, when I'm home and charging it, I'll try each app individually until I pin point which one "causes" the problem.
Does this help? Anything else you want me to try?

Hi kosherpig, getting on great with NoTSR now, I just have one small idea that it would be nice to show the memory stats in the pop up dialogue in a similar way to oxios hibernate. Unless of course this would significantly affect the size and speed of the app, in that case I think it is easy enough to check on the memory usage other ways with a couple of quick taps.

cleanRAM problem/Annoyance

Hey there guys, just a quick one for ya.
Has anyone come across a problem with HTC Addicts cleanRAM?
when i click the the icon to clean it starts the process but then runs my email application(default HTC app) also.
It started doing this yesterday with no changes made to my registry or other device settings.
I've tried un-installing the program and then re-installing but i still get the same (annoying) result.
Has anyone else encountered this? and if so do you know of a fix?
Many Thanks
Sharingan

Well, for me, when I run the Level 3 purge, it takes me to the dial-pad screen for a few seconds. Never really bothered me though...

dial pad
level 3 takes me to dialpad also, wierd, but works ok,,

I also get this with Level 3.

...and for me as well.

This is just how it goes with cleanram. If you have done a customized process list than I would suppose thats why it's bringing up your email because it's purging anything in your list so if it's not running already it will bring it up to purge it to make sure it's not in the memory anymore.

Yea the thing is, i haven't ran a custom purge, i just do Level 3, and it doesn't just pop up, it keeps it open :s Thats why it was annoying for me, doesn't look like there is any kind of fix, just something we have to live with. Thanks for your input!

same here
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?

feyt said:
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?
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Don't use Clean RAM, lol. It's not like you need to use it. I have 576Mbs enabled and I never use Clean RAM, most of the RAM used is just cache so your most commonly use programs will open faster if you don't use it.
I've never got any slow down from not using it.

[Q] Can I reinstall HTC Sense?

First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum

Markwood2k said:
First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum
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have you installed anything recently? if that is the case, try uninstalling that, soft reset and then see if sense leaunches properly. As for reinstalling sense, theres a cab floating around, but its huge...dont know if it will work for you or not as ive never tried it myself
heres the link: http://rapidshare.com/files/401944993/bigboss_Manila_2.5_2016_full.cab.html
you need to install sdcerts first for the above cab to install. it can be found here
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mmddxz2yjm
good luck!

WOW!!!
MINE DID THE VERY EXACT SAME THING Monday night. I think it was something to do with a game that I must have installed from marketplace a few minutes before it happened. One of the free XIM games i think, or maybe the bartender recipes free app. I uninstalled almost everything and soft reseted about 10 times, nothing. Sense will work for about 30-60 seconds after a reset but then all of a sudden stops working. Leaving that last screen that was open displaying with no responses to anything other then start and end keys. WTF happened??
after a reboot, quickly go and disable the sense from home setting from the setting tab before it locks up. I did that and it is working fine with Windows default or even SPB Mobile shell. Sense is fried though.
Nate
any other ideas peeps?
Markwood2k said:
First let me say this is the first issue I've had to date with my HD2. As a die hard win mobile advocate, I love it and it has exceeded expectations at every turn. Today however, I seem to have a problem with HTC Sense. it will not Launch correctly. it hangs on the Launching Sense splash. the Home button is not working. the Start button (hard and soft) is working , but the display freezes anytime i do anything. for instance, i can press the Task Manager shortcut i put on my start menu, and lauch the task manager, but if i minimixe with the X, the x just disappears and the header changes from task manager to start, but the screen is left displaying the the task manager and nonworking buttons (more like a screenshot)
I'm considering restetting to factory, but thought i'd see if there was a way to reinstall sense first (if anyone might agree, thats worth trying first)
Can I reinstall HTC Sense? (without it working properly now)
Is this worth a try?
many thanks, love the forum
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Follow up, I think it may have been an error with Twitter or HTC PEEP. I was looking around for the Peep app to see if it would run outside of sense and saw the HTC folder in the Windows (windows\htc\twitter\files) folder and found an executable Twitter app.exe. I launched it and it asked if I wanted to log out of twitter, i said yes and then later I turned on Sense and it has worked ever since.
Related??? Dont know.
but I am up and running again. I will report back if it happens again.

ok, everything is still running fine. What I did after the Sense crash.
installed SPB Mobile shell 3.5.5
tried sense a couple more times, failed each time.
Looked for and found Twitter app.exe, launched and logged out of twitter.
tried sense again, worked.
logged back into twitter
Unisntalled SPB mobile shell
No problems to note. Everythign is working as it should.
Running the latest Stock Tmobile rom as well.
seems like this thread has not had any activity lately, does that mean that the OP is not having issues now???

most probably it's not a matter of twitter app. i've never used it, was not logged in and sense still did break down, hangs while "Launching HTC Sense...". got energy ROM, happened for the second time, dunno why am tired of restoring to manufacturer defaults and wiping my device twice a year