Advantage of Rooting Telus HTC Hero - Hero, G2 Touch General

Hey guys, i recently got a HTC Hero from Telus then unlocked for usage on the fido network(In canada) as well.
I notice i don't see a lot of apps on my market, paid and free.
I guess it is because the Hero is on Android 1.5.
Also Telus/Fido supports tethering but the HTC Hero from Telus disabled this.
I was wondering other than additional to tethering, what do i gain by rooting the phone?
This might be a newbie question, but i looked at the MoDaCo features, and that is basically what i get right?
I am thinking of waiting for the official 2.0.
Thanks,

There are no paid apps in Canada yet. I have no idea when we will be getting paid apps. I tried writing HTC and asking, but they never responded.
If you are successful in rooting your Hero, then you can get the app: Market Enabler and use it to get paid apps.
What kind of tethering do you mean? Connected or wireless? I think you can use azilink for wired tether without being rooted, but wireless tether you have to have root.
The only necessity for me to root would be to get paid apps. However, the rooting method for the Hero is a painful one and I have not been successful in downgrading. The stock rom that Telus Hero comes with is not rootable yet. You must downgrade to an older rom and root that.
I am a bit sketchy about ditching the stock rom for a custom rom as well. I've seen so many custom roms that I don't like or a bit buggy. Also, once you ditch the stock, it seems that we cannot easily get it back. However, I would like to get paid apps as there are a few that I use frequently.
Hopefully Canada gets paid apps soon...

Thanks, i'm going to try Azilink!
I might wait til it gets rooted, unless i can get 2.0 early, i don't see the need of putting my new phone in danger for paid apps for my personal use as of now.

If you don't care about paid apps, or wireless tether, I see no reason to root. The TELUS Rom is actually quite good. Have fun with azilink, I've never actually used it

Other than putting the market enabler on, can you still push APK's over to install with a USB and ADB..? Or even email yourself the APK and install that way?

should be able to as long as you allow installs from unknown sources in the settings.

Raspster said:
Other than putting the market enabler on, can you still push APK's over to install with a USB and ADB..? Or even email yourself the APK and install that way?
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I prefer to copy my apk's to the SD card and then on the phone, use a file manager like Linda File Manager to browse to the apk file, click it and install it that way.

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paid apps in denmark

hello
I can't find it any where so i need to ask, is there any way to get paid apps on my desire, when i can't download paid apps from market ?
Fisken -
I am in Denmark too. I use Marketenabler and so I can fake my provider as T -Mobil (US), and see both paid and free apps.
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i can't install that, is that because i need to root it first ?
Fisken said:
i can't install that, is that because i need to root it first ?
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Yes.
Another easy solution is to use a sim card from another country where paid Android applications is possible. I have tried with an austrian sim card in Denmark without problems. Just download the applications using WiFi.
Unfortunately yes. It needs root privilege.
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There's a third way that requires neither root nor foreign sim. It does require that you install Android SDK on you computer, and it's a bit of a hassle to set up the first time, but once you've done that, you have easy access to paid apps. It's what I used before I rooted, and it worked like a charm.
It's too complicated for me to remember off hand, and I'm a new user so apparently I can't post links, but try googling "paid apps i emulator" or "paid apps i telefonen"; it's the top search result for me. *
(it's in Swedish, but being Danish you should have little difficulties with that; sorry non-Scandinavians - try googling key words... Although we're probably pretty much the only ones left without paid apps in Market by now
* If it doesn't work, let me now, and maybe I'll just post the whole damn thing right here (if I can get the author's permission).
move to USA or something is another solution LOL.
ok I think the safest way for you to do this is buy a sim from a country that has market enabled. Rooting your phone just to be able to buy apps is a bit risky. Installing the SDK might be the cheapest solution tbh. And you just cant brick your pc doing that
I was able to install the SDK, but I failed to grasp how to install market.
vikinguser said:
I was able to install the SDK, but I failed to grasp how to install market.
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Not sure what you mean; you don't "install" Market per se...
Once you've installed SDK on your PC, you create an AVD (Android Virtual Device), which is basically an Android emulator on your PC. In this emulator you can buy whatever you want from Market, and then push (or copy) it to your actual phone.
Are you following a guide? If so, which, and how far have you gotten?
If you understand Swedish, try this (exchange | for / ):
blogg.tthe.se|index.php|other|paid-apps-i-emulator
eham said:
Not sure what you mean; you don't "install" Market per se...
Once you've installed SDK on your PC, you create an AVD (Android Virtual Device), which is basically an Android emulator on your PC. In this emulator you can buy whatever you want from Market, and then push (or copy) it to your actual phone.
Are you following a guide? If so, which, and how far have you gotten?
If you understand Swedish, try this (exchange | for / ):
blogg.tthe.se|index.php|other|paid-apps-i-emulator
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Dear eham, it seems to be a good workaround for me (for I don't wanna risk rooting and dont wanna change to sim card too frequently), just a few questions to ask about the emulator method.
would I still be able to update the paid apps if I download the paid apps through emulator? and will I be able to install it back if I flash my phone?
thx
hongkongtom said:
would I still be able to update the paid apps if I download the paid apps through emulator? and will I be able to install it back if I flash my phone?
thx
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"Dear eham"? why so formal
The answers are yes and yes.
You own the app (it's tied to your google account), so it's yours to update or whatever, but as long as you're unrooted you will have to do it in the emulator (as you can't access the paid app's Market page on your phone), and then push the updated .apk to your phone, replacing the old one. Be sure to add an SD-card to your emulator, and use ASTRO in your emu-phone to backup your apps to it as your emu-phone will have the same ****ty amount of internal memory as your real phone (if it's anything like mine .
And yes. Use ASTRO (or any app backup.. app) to also backup your apps to your real SD and/or your PC, and you can reinstall them whenever you want.
eham said:
"Dear eham"? why so formal
The answers are yes and yes.
You own the app (it's tied to your google account), so it's yours to update or whatever, but as long as you're unrooted you will have to do it in the emulator (as you can't access the paid app's Market page on your phone), and then push the updated .apk to your phone, replacing the old one. Be sure to add an SD-card to your emulator, and use ASTRO in your emu-phone to backup your apps to it as your emu-phone will have the same ****ty amount of internal memory as your real phone (if it's anything like mine .
And yes. Use ASTRO (or any app backup.. app) to also backup your apps to your real SD and/or your PC, and you can reinstall them whenever you want.
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Very well said, Thx mate! I'll go try it out! Really wanna support paid apps! Anyone got an idea when will Google bring paid apps to other countries or Paypal for paid apps? It's non-sense for me in HK to be able to buy N1 though Google checkout and not able to buy paid apps.
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You're welcome
Btw, you don't have paid apps in HK?! That surprised me, I thought for sure you did.
But yeah, I second the question. What's the damn holdup, Google? Anyone got the scoop?
The last I heard (for Sweden) was January 2010. I'm starting to think that's not gonna happen...
i had marketenabler for 2.1 but upgrading to 2.2 stops the program from working unfortunately... =/
eham said:
You're welcome
Btw, you don't have paid apps in HK?! That surprised me, I thought for sure you did.
But yeah, I second the question. What's the damn holdup, Google? Anyone got the scoop?
The last I heard (for Sweden) was January 2010. I'm starting to think that's not gonna happen...
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It didn't only surprised you mate, you shocked me as well when Iphone's app store has already been working in HK since like 2-3 years ago? Man!
well, one more thing to ask, Google had just push out the newest SDK, I am using it for the workaround, but seems it uses 1.6 for the emulator, could I use 2.2 (or at least 2.1) instead so that I could install my apps onto the SD card?
besides, how could I push .apk to my phone? basically how could I find the stuff on SD on my emulator?
Like I said in an earlier post, I went and rooted my phone, so I haven't used the SDK method in a while, and I couldn't really tell you if you could use 2.2 or not. I see no harm in trying, but I'm going to leave the answer up to someone who might know a little better.
But really, why would you? Maybe I'm missing something, but once you've pushed/saved, and backed up, the apps, you don't really need them on the AVD (emu-phone) anymore, so if you're running low on memory just uninstall as needed. You've paid for them, so you can always reinstall from Market if you ever feel the need.
Not entirely sure what mean by the last part. If you mean how do you push the files that you moved to SD using App2SD, I don't know. I don't have 2.2 or A2SD, so again I'm going to have to leave that for someone else to answer. Personally, I probably wouldn't bother with a 2.2 AVD as I see no real benefit, but hey, that's me.
So to reiterate: Use 1.6.
eham said:
Like I said in an earlier post, I went and rooted my phone, so I haven't used the SDK method in a while, and I couldn't really tell you if you could use 2.2 or not. I see no harm in trying, but I'm going to leave the answer up to someone who might know a little better.
But really, why would you? Maybe I'm missing something, but once you've pushed/saved, and backed up, the apps, you don't really need them on the AVD (emu-phone) anymore, so if you're running low on memory just uninstall as needed. You've paid for them, so you can always reinstall from Market if you ever feel the need.
Not entirely sure what mean by the last part. If you mean how do you push the files that you moved to SD using App2SD, I don't know. I don't have 2.2 or A2SD, so again I'm going to have to leave that for someone else to answer. Personally, I probably wouldn't bother with a 2.2 AVD as I see no real benefit, but hey, that's me.
So to reiterate: Use 1.6.
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Dear eham (I really have to be this formal to express my appreciation )
finally got all things sorted out and successfully purchased 1 app and pushed to my phone (automatically through Android market), finally I can show my appreciation to the apps developers!
well, even though I can now get paid apps, being a non-root user with 2.1, I still have to wait for the official Froyo update from HTC to further enjoy apps (my memory is certainly full just after the 2nd day I bought my Desire).
anyway, great great help from xda!
Glad I could help

Noobie here... Seeking some advice post root

Hi everybody,
I just moved from an iphone 3g (which i had jailbroken) to an incredible thanks to at&t contract finally finishing. Hv rooted the inc on my mac using the unrevoked method. Everything works fine (still have stock eclair 2.1 and sense running). Hv installed a bunch of apps from the market but hv not sideloaded anything yet or uninstalled anything (htc sense etc etc) yet. I would really appreciate some guidance from the community on the following since i am very new to the platform as a whole.
1. I dont want to lose the ability to update to the official froyo release (whenever it happens) so will I have to unroot (if thats even possible) to get the froyo update? If yes, whats the correct way so that I can bookmark that.
2. I want to be able to use the tethering without paying 20$ extra per month to VZ (in fact would probably use USB tethering to my macbook more often than wifi tethering/hotspot, but obviously I would like both! ). How should i do that? Obviously the stock app will just alert verizon, right? Is there another app that will work now that i hv rooted? Any special instructions to follow?
3. Would like to optimize the capability of the device by removing crapware and useless stuff which comes with the phone. Hv not yet even figured out what each app does yet. I will use my inc primarily for entertainment - games, social networking, browsing, streaming music, videos, google voice, true VoIP (not official VZ skype), GPS navigation, tethering (when no wifi) but will be OTA syncing my office exchange email account, contacts, calendar as well to make this a backup phone to my official bberry. Any suggestions on which apps to remove? Also how should I remove them without bricking the phone. Is there a cleaner method?
4. I actually like Sense even though it seems it uses up some memory - any way i can remove the useless parts of Sense (since I wont be using USB sync and I am sure some other stuff in sense is just bloatware) without losing the other features that look great - to be honest the phone looks too plain without sense (nexus 1 looked really naked). I would like to retain the look and feel of the sense ui.
5. How do I get swype on this? I played with it when i was shopping for android phones on the captivate (which unfortunately was on at&t) and I am amazed at how great that was! I badly badly badly badly need that!!
6. Any standard add-ons, apps which you would recommend for my intended usage?
7. Now that I am rooted which post-root apps should i install to make the inc more useful? Any obvious ones which you would recommend?
8. The people sense widget is just too much, anything a bit saner which is like a launchpad but without the screen wastage?
9. In jailbroken iphones, you could install lockinfo which was a spectacular agglomeration of all things (missed calls, voice mails waiting, email msg list, twitter feed, facebook feed, weather, calendar, tasks, sms msgs) in 1 simple scrollable screen. Anything similar in Sense/HTC widgets/App store? Just one glance would tell me everything.
Sorry, since I am new I decided to ask all questions in 1 shot. Obviously dont expect to have all questions answered by 1 person but if the devs/users can point me in the right direction, with links and some comments, I will greatly appreciate it.
Thanks and hoping to be a contributor to the android community sometime soon as I was in the iphone community until i just could not take at&t anymore.
1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
2.there is an app incthe market called wifi tether that is free.
3.look in the theme/app sectiom. there is a skinned version there.
4. adb in recovery os the only way to remove crapware
7-8 . there are not many apps for root users lile there was with cydia.
also, there are many widets avaliable in the android market. there is lots of good apps in the market. explore.
if you have any other questions feel free to pm me amy time.
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1.yes you need to unroot to recieve otas
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No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."
rpearl said:
No, if you are running the stock rom ou will recieve OTAs. The OTA doesn't magically detect "this phone is rooted."
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doesnt somethong change the ctacerts and otacerts?
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No. it's also not suggested and is reported to have negative side effects.
One important thing, Install Rom Manager from the market.
With this app you can do a backup of the Rom (stock sense and rooted) you're running now and install others to try, if you don't like them just restore the one you had before and done, you can as many back up as you want.
Also check in the theme section and you'll find lots of themes to make your phone look and work beautiful, this also allows you to get to recovery without having to turnoff your phone and install anything you want from the sd card.
Also, if you don't like some of the crap ware that Sense has, there's a post for removing the apps you don't want on Sense and it tell you which ones are safe to remove.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710009
Hope this helps a little.
Some apps for us the rooted...shootme or drocap to take pictures of your screens, titanium backup, wifi tether, etc.
Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks
khanam said:
Appreciate the help everybody! Only thing I am still seeking an answer for is swype on my inc if anybody can guide me.
Thanks
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Here you go. I use the red skinned Swype, looks great and works great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701198
Thanks! Just realized one more thing. I cant seem to be able to use skype over wifi only. Is this verizon's way of using up my minutes one way or another?

Just got the Xoom and Market blocks most apps....

Hi,
I got the Xoom wifi yesterday. As an international user, most apps are blocked in Android Market. I thought setting up my USA VPN on would help.
Basically I want to have access all apps, even paid ones.
1.What's the easiest way to do this? Is rooting the only way?
2.Isn't there a way to backup...a complete system image? From what I understand Dungeon Defender will be deleted with no way to get it back.
If you have a rooted android phone, then u have to see this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13278866&postcount=16
Its the way to go! =D hahaha
Finally able to root + Market enabler...but still can't see paid/tablet apps. What am I doing wrong?
if the app you're trying to buy is not for tablets only, in other words it would appear on your phone market, buy it there using Market Enabler (if you need to based on location). Then on your Xoom, connect to a USA vpn, clear your Market Data from Settings>Applications... you'll then see the applications you purchased under My Apps and you can download them.
VPN will not allow you to buy straight from your Xoom. It's really frustrating I know.

[Q] Tether fix for stock rom?

Hi everyone
I just got myself an i337, liking it so far.
Only problem is- i can't use wifi hotspot, which sucks.
I am not on AT&T, nor do i live in the U.S, and my carrier allows tethering free without limitations
The problem is that the phone for some reason blocks the option. I searched around and saw something similar was on the i747 at the time, and there was a fix. (didn't find anything about the 337 though, i read the noob helper thread and searched for quite some time before opening the thread)
Is there a fix for the stock i337 AT&T rom? i like touchwiz and do not want to move to AOSP/AOKP etc, my phone is rooted and i cleaned AT&T's crap off it.
Is there any fix, or a rom very close to stock (dosn't matter if it's i337 stock or i9505 stock as long as everything works) that does give the option to use the wifi hotspot?
Any answers appreciated, thanks.
Pika007 said:
Hi everyone
I just got myself an i337, liking it so far.
Only problem is- i can't use wifi hotspot, which sucks.
I am not on AT&T, nor do i live in the U.S, and my carrier allows tethering free without limitations
The problem is that the phone for some reason blocks the option. I searched around and saw something similar was on the i747 at the time, and there was a fix. (didn't find anything about the 337 though, i read the noob helper thread and searched for quite some time before opening the thread)
Is there a fix for the stock i337 AT&T rom? i like touchwiz and do not want to move to AOSP/AOKP etc, my phone is rooted and i cleaned AT&T's crap off it.
Is there any fix, or a rom very close to stock (dosn't matter if it's i337 stock or i9505 stock as long as everything works) that does give the option to use the wifi hotspot?
Any answers appreciated, thanks.
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As long as you're rooted, there is a fix which involves replacing the TetheringProvision APK (I'm not sure if this only applies for AT&T users or not). You can give it a shot, half link since I can't post real ones yet:
galaxys4root dot com/galaxy-s4-tutorials/how-to-wifi-tether-att-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337/
I used the terminal to do it instead of Script Manager, if you don't want to get a new app.
You can use es file explorer, just go to settings>tools>net manager and enable hotspot (in es file explorer) pretty sure you domt even need root...but I think the may have patched it in MF3 (latest software) not sure...
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I am running the stock MF3 rom, but not the MF3 bootloaders/recovery. I found that many of the tethering methods broke, because any method that tries to forcefully enable the native tethering ability will be detected by TetheringProvision and it will try to call out to AT&T to check to see if you have the plan. Some people are reporting that if you simply keep trying repeatedly, it will eventually skip the checking part, and turn on the tethering anyway. This of course doesn't work straight from the Settings page, though.
Here's what I do, detailed in a very long-winded bulleted list:
Installed this app. It's free and very easy to use. You touch the icon for it, and it attempts to start the tethering service. However, don't try it just yet, because it will still call out to TetheringProvision.
Disable TetheringProvision. You can freeze it in Titanium Backup, or you can simply run these commands in a terminal emulator or via ADB Shell:
Code:
[B]su[/B]
pm disable com.sec.tetheringprovision
If you ever try to enable tethering through the system Settings, you'll find that Settings will force-close on you. This is because Settings is trying to call out to TetheringProvision, and it flips out. No harm done. You can still enter the settings area for it and adjust your hotspot settings (i.e. WPA, SSID...). Just avoid that ON/OFF button.
Once you have your settings set, fire up that tethering app. It will also force-close the Settings.
The first time you run the app, it might still prompt you for WPA settings. Adjust if needed.
The tethering probably won't start and work the first time. Try it again. In fact, you may have to try a few times each time to get it to work. Occasionally you'll get an ad from the tethering app upon loading it, but otherwise I've not seen any other ads from it. I might eventually upgrade to the Pro version for $0.99 to eliminate the ads, but I'm really just lazy.
If you see the little blue icon in the notification area, you're set.
Enjoy.
Holy hell, that is a LOT of work for a hotspot, is there some kind of rom i can use instead? (touchwiz, no vanilla/aokp etc.)
I'm not on MF3 btw,
JDQ39.i337ucuamdb
Pika007 said:
Holy hell, that is a LOT of work for a hotspot, is there some kind of rom i can use instead? (touchwiz, no vanilla/aokp etc.)
I'm not on MF3 btw,
JDQ39.i337ucuamdb
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OH!
In that case, just download that app I linked to you, and use it normally. Also, the ES File Explorer one works too, apparently.
Also, you should get the update to MDL at some point, and then disable updates from happening so that you'll never get MF3.
Pika007 said:
Hi everyone
I just got myself an i337, liking it so far.
Only problem is- i can't use wifi hotspot, which sucks.
I am not on AT&T, nor do i live in the U.S, and my carrier allows tethering free without limitations
The problem is that the phone for some reason blocks the option. I searched around and saw something similar was on the i747 at the time, and there was a fix. (didn't find anything about the 337 though, i read the noob helper thread and searched for quite some time before opening the thread)
Is there a fix for the stock i337 AT&T rom? i like touchwiz and do not want to move to AOSP/AOKP etc, my phone is rooted and i cleaned AT&T's crap off it.
Is there any fix, or a rom very close to stock (dosn't matter if it's i337 stock or i9505 stock as long as everything works) that does give the option to use the wifi hotspot?
Any answers appreciated, thanks.
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There are several options. You need to search (or just look) through the development section and see if the (near or close to stock) ROMs list tethering in the OPs. You could also use Nottach X-posed (also located in the development section), it offers several mods including tethering. Personally, I use P-ROM, again by Nottach. It offers a modified framework that stays completely stock yet has built in changes, such as tethering. All of this is located in the "development" section. Alternatively, you can use one of the many apps that allow for tethering. Searching through the AT&T S4 forums should get you several threads that list what these apps are and how they work. Good luck and read all the information about whatever you decide to do before you do it.

Long time root user - transitioning to unrooted phone?

I've rooted all my devices since the days of the OG Droid. Up until a year or two ago, root and custom roms were a must have for a lot of useful features, but the dependency on root features has definitely gone down as stock android has advanced.
With the Moto X being mostly stock, and a little harder to root (especially with every OTA) I've been thinking about just going stock and keeping it unrooted when it arrives today.
As of now I use root mainly for just backing up and syncing app data between my phone and tablet (since a lot of apps don't implement google's cloud sync). It appears that Helium works with the Moto X, though that's definitely not as seamless or quick of a process. I also use Greenify but apparently that doesn't need root anymore.
Has anyone else gone down this path? I feel like I might end up missing a lot of things I can't even think of right now.
I just got my MotoMaker yesterday, and I was basically in the same boat. I was initially going to just unlock the bootloader, install TWRP, and install SuperUser, but the Moto site was rejecting my device key. I usually will immediately root a device and install Titanium Backup to install my standard set of apps. I gave up waiting for Moto to update their db and started installing apps without unlocking. Most apps I use don't really store much beyond some basic settings locally, so I just re-downloaded everything I wanted from the Play Store and logged into everything again. The few apps that had locally saved data that I wanted to transfer (games, mostly) I ended up using adb on my computer to backup individually, then used adb to push the apps to the new phone. This worked for most things... some apps don't let you back them up. My biggest concern was Google Authenticator, which I use for a number of websites. For that, I had to cheat. Since my existing phone was already rooted, I used adb to pull the stored secrets database off the phone (which you can't do without root). I found this awesome tool which lets you generate QR codes directly from a Google Authenticator db file, and used that to add the secrets to a freshly installed copy of Authenticator.
In the end, the Moto site finally let me get an unlock code, though I think I've decided to skip that, at least for the time being. Unlocking the device wipes it, and I've got things installed and configured the way I want. I don't see myself wanting to push any non-stock roms to this (I really like the Moto additions). I still want root (mostly for backups, though it does make tweaking the device a bit easier), but I can live without it for now.
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I've rooted all my devices since the days of the OG Droid. Up until a year or two ago, root and custom roms were a must have for a lot of useful features, but the dependency on root features has definitely gone down as stock android has advanced.
With the Moto X being mostly stock, and a little harder to root (especially with every OTA) I've been thinking about just going stock and keeping it unrooted when it arrives today.
As of now I use root mainly for just backing up and syncing app data between my phone and tablet (since a lot of apps don't implement google's cloud sync). It appears that Helium works with the Moto X, though that's definitely not as seamless or quick of a process. I also use Greenify but apparently that doesn't need root anymore.
Has anyone else gone down this path? I feel like I might end up missing a lot of things I can't even think of right now.
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I am the same as you. Traditionally, I always rooted but for the X I've just felt no need. (I was worried about receiving future updates, mostly).
I wrote a guide on backing up and restoring app data to the Moto X without root.
Helium works well for backing up your old devices, but it seems to have trouble for many on restoring the data. That's where my guide comes in, helping lay out the adb commands to finish up.
I will add, though, that after the Lenovo/Moto X announcement, it seems likely that I will root this in the future in case Lenovo drops the ball with delivering future OS updates.
Thanks, forgot about using adb for backup/restore
First Andoid I haven't felt the need to root, it's just so stable and smooth. The only reason I can imagine rooting it would be to install Adaway. Didn't realize how many ads there are until now :laugh:
I have rooted all my previous phones up until the X. I'm still able to enjoy it without the root access.
Usually rooting was necessary to debloat the phone and tune it to a stock like Android experience. Haven't really needed it with the X obviously.
The only thing that bothers me I guess is I didn't realize some of the apps I use had ads....lol
I just want adblocking again.
I was in the same boat before. Flash flash flash... That's all I ever did. Of course it was due to HTC and Samsung. Then with my n4 I went custom kernel and a few mods. The only thing I truly miss root for is ad block but that I can live with out
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This is my fifth android phone and the first I didn't root. Finally saw no need to as like you say android has come along way, especially with being able to disable and hide apps you don't want. I have used Helium for backup, it needs to be connected to a PC for the first use and then every time the phone is rebooted, a little bit of a hassle. I also have used mybackup pro since 2010 and it never needed root but doesn't have the option to back up to box or dropbox only their own cloud storage.
Same thing for me. Decided first phone not needing root. Tethering even works out of the box! (XT 1053 on AT&T).
The only catch I had with helium was that I wasn't able to restore google authenticator data. So I manually used an SQL lite tool to extract the keys and just re-enter in a new install of google authenticator.
I refuse to limit myself so I got a developers edition. Being one if the first in America with 4.4.2 and being able to fix the exchange email issues beforehand etc are reasons I made sure I had root as an option. However this and my Nexus5 are the first phones that don't have Cyanogen Mod and so far I don't see a need or have a desire to run a different OS.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
You're a better man than I if you can pull it off
Galaxy S4 was my first bootloader-locked phone, and I couldn't stand it. I'm on Moto X Dev version now.
I got my Moto X (at&t version) a couple weeks ago and like you I've always rooted. This time the experience was great out of the box, I just reinstalled everything fresh. I hate seeing tons of folders on my "sdcard" so now I feel like its clean and there is no legacy garbage brought over from my old phone. The only thing I am missing over my old phone (HTC One X) is being able to tether for free.
Also, the Motorola Migrate app is actually pretty good at bring your pics, texts and call logs over to your Moto X.
compulov said:
found this awesome tool which lets you generate QR codes directly from a Google Authenticator db file, and used that to add the secrets to a freshly installed copy of Authenticator.
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Can you share a link to this? I need this also!
msk said:
I got my Moto X (at&t version) a couple weeks ago and like you I've always rooted. This time the experience was great out of the box, I just reinstalled everything fresh. I hate seeing tons of folders on my "sdcard" so now I feel like its clean and there is no legacy garbage brought over from my old phone. The only thing I am missing over my old phone (HTC One X) is being able to tether for free.
Also, the Motorola Migrate app is actually pretty good at bring your pics, texts and call logs over to your Moto X.
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That's exactly how I felt... I wanted to start clean. I have all my photos uploaded to Google+ via auto backup and I occasionally import them all into Lightroom on my laptop, so that was a non-issue. As for SMS, I've been using SMS Backup+ for a few years now to automatically backup my SMS and call history to my Gmail account. It also makes it easy to search my SMS history if I'm looking for an old message.
Can you share a link to this? I need this also!
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The tool I used can be found here: https://github.com/ikonst/authenticator-import
It's basically an html page and some javascripts that you run locally in your browser (no web server needed). I actually want to run this again and save the QR codes either into Lastpasss or an encrypted file or something, just so I have easy access to them in the future.
I can do lots of things without needing root now thanks to third party apps. There are still essential reasons I need root. Ads blocking and apps permission management mainly and have more to do with security and anti-malware, I purchase my apps so it's not about depriving devs. App Ops will no longer work with Android 4.4.2 without root, I think it's a major mistake by Google. Also Cerberus needs root to exist through factory reset.
But so far I haven't root my Moto X due to warranty, but will eventually. I think the Moto X is very usable without needing root and KitKat with ART performance really help with that.
Just a question about the bootloader on the MotoX. If I unlock it, can I relock it and unlock it later without needing to use the unlock code or run into any trouble?
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I was in the same boat for about a day. I couldn't help myself and had to get the Xposed Framework up and running. I need Gravity Box and Xprivacy.
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overthatscreen said:
I was in the same boat for about a day. I couldn't help myself and had to get the Xposed Framework up and running. I need Gravity Box and Xprivacy.
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I am probably going to root but only because I often use tethering. I used to do all the custom roms and such, but those are more of a PITA than they're worth the majority of the time.
deanrobbins said:
I am probably going to root but only because I often use tethering. I used to do all the custom roms and such, but those are more of a PITA than they're worth the majority of the time.
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I rooted because I needed to get that stupid at&t logo off the top of the screen and gravity box was + and greenify.
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