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Locking / S2U2 / Stand by questions

Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?

Doesn't pressing the "End call" button for 2-3 seconds also lock the phone?
Regards!

I do understand what you're saying. I figured out something really basic just the other day, that is if your phone is locked or in sleep mode just pull out your stylus and it'll unlock and wake up.
Just 1 movement.
Sorry if this is really common knowledge and you already know this but sometimes we overlook the more basic functions on such a complex device!!
Cheers
DB

Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.

jon- said:
Power button into standby is a fine lock for me. Nearly impossible to accidently knock the power button to turn it back on.
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Yep i do this too.
Press the power button mate, and it will lock the phone
I like how the phone unlocks when you take the stylus out but i didnt like how it locks the phone when you put the stylus back in, so i removed that function using the options in gyrator

I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.

is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????

matou25 said:
I have got TOUCH HD since 1week.
I haven't problem with touch hd like touch diamond.
it is in my pocket but the new phone canvas and the sensitive key prenve nt missing call.
for me no need s2u2 or pocket shield like diamond.
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why my HD no "Phone Canvas"?

Jezwick said:
is there a registry option for disabling the unlock when the stylus is removed/falls out ????
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I searched a long time for this, but I didn´t find a solution

Standby locking
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.

surfaczer said:
I also "lock" my phone by sending it to standby with the power button. This seems to work realy good for me. The only problem is that the HD wakes up if someone is calling. So i often answer a call by accident. Does anyone know a way to deactivate the automatic wake up?
I tried the registry hack with autolocking but this doesn't work for calls either.
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Have you tried HDTweak?

ScarySquirrel said:
Have you tried HDTweak?
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Please explain

device lock
gt112 said:
Hi folks
I'm back again with some more dumb questions (bear with me - I'm Irish).
On my old Nokia, I could lock the phone by pressing 2 keys and hey presto, phone now safe!
With the HD, things seem a bit complex. Firstly, there's power managenent that controls how long the back light stays on for and how long the phone stays on for before going into stand by.
Q1. Is standby not another form of locking ? If so why not just press th epower button whenever you want to lock the phone and be done with it ?
Then there is the built in locking software that comes with the app.
Q2. Whats the problem with this? (i.e. long pressing the end key and choosing 'Lock the device'; Why do we even need S2U2 ?
Then there's S2U2 itself. The settings page is long and complex.
Q3. Is there a S2U2 manual anywhere ? (to explain some of those ambiguous settings)
Finally, and here is my most important question...
Q4. Can I use my HD like I used to use my Noika - i.e. press a key or 2 to lock the goddam phone an just be done with it ?
As it is, when I want to use my phone, I have to press the power button to take it out of standby, and then I have to slide the S2U2 unlock switch. Its a lot of hassle just to make a phone call.
Is it me? Am I that stupid? What am I doing wrong ? What am I missing ?
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Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon

JPW said:
Hi try this small cab - cant remember where I got it from but it works!!
just install to device and then add into programs launch or start menu.
regards
jon
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You're Irish too, I presume?
The other option is you attached a very small cab.

OOOPS forgot cab
have edited post now
Jon

Should the device lock when I put the stylus in? I get the impression from this thread that it should but mine doesn't?

How to get Lock Screen on WMB 6.5

Hi there,
How can i get the lock screen by just pressing the power button? For example, I'm using the mobile and then i press the power button to turn off the light of the screen, and then when i press the power button again to turn it on, the lock screen appears, like iphone. I couldn't find it on the windows configuration.
Thanks

There is alot of applications which can do this, but most of it has serious bugs and issues.
Hope that someone is able to firm this issue out ASAP.
But, for now, no solution is available.

The lock screen that i'm talking about is the one of the Windows Mobile 6.5 not the ones that we get from programs of internet. The new lock screen of wmb 6.5

the lookscreen is activated by end key, may be you can remap it to the power key, but then how are you go to turn off the device?

Hi, Im using the Smartlock (v1.7c) and it works fine form me. Just use the suspend lock option (I only use that one). Then every time u turn the screen on it will be locked with the wm6.5 lock screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032

harfuch said:
Hi, Im using the Smartlock (v1.7c) and it works fine form me. Just use the suspend lock option (I only use that one). Then every time u turn the screen on it will be locked with the wm6.5 lock screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032
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WOW
That's the one, thanks!!

Does anyone have a small example how this has been developed? I guess with a notification and a keypress?
Much appriciated

Buttons active in suspend mode!!

Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!

Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.

ruscik said:
Hi All
On all my previous HTC devices when I was switchin the device off with power button none of other buttons were active. So pressing them did nothing. Only way to wake the device up was to press power button.
On Leo that is not the case. Now I remember that option was somewhere in windows but it appears to not be there anymore. When I have phone in pocket volume still works so it goes up and down. It also today somehow managed to unlocked it self when in poclet of my motorbike leathers including sliding the screen to unlock. Then it started calling hte wrong person while I was on m-way. Not a good thing.
Any idea where that option is?!
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If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.

lindsaydr said:
Only way i have found around this is to install S2U2 and set slide to answer as only way to answer phone. This disables buttons when there is a call. There is also a cab file you can install to set s2u2 as the default unlock screen.
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Will try s2u2 then
johncmolyneux said:
If you are unlocking the lock screen, by sliding the slider all the way to one side, whilst it is in your pocket, then I suggest you get a priest to exorcise your pocket. This simply is not possible without your intervention.
I would suggest that you have come across the common (and very documented on this forum) problem of the lock screen not actually locking your device fully.
This is a known problem, with a 100% effective solution. Before you start a journey (which is obviously where this is most problematic for you) click start and then lock (the bottom left soft key). This re-enables the hardware lock. After that, it will work.
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My pocket is ghost free, as it is made of leather and in rain can get a bit moist it does work a bit on the screen.
Also if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.

ruscik said:
if I select start and click lock all buttons still work.
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Yes, but you need to slide to unlock if the lock screen is working correctly. This will not happen by accident, in your pocket.
You can only unlock your phone with the hardware buttons if the known issue of the lock screen rears it's ugly head.
Doing what I said, before each journey, will make sure that you cannot unlock the screen with a simple button-press.

Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.

Cret said:
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol

Cret said:
Since installing S2U2 a few days ago I've had even worse problems with ghost unlocks than before.
Previously the only issue was accidentally cutting calls off, but with S2U2 I had a text from a friend on Friday asking if I was drunk. Somehow, whilst locked in my pocket it unlocked and sent a gibberish sms!
Then today, it also somehow unlocked in my pocket and dialled my mum!
I'm just glad I wasn't playing Call of Duty when it happened or she would have just heard "Sh1t!!! You cheating f***!!! WTF??? You..... FFS!!!!" etc
But seriously - I love S2U2 from previous winmo phones but it's made my HD2 worse so I've uninstalled it tonight sadly.
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Well it took me all but 45 min to realise my problem is still there with s2u2 but other things are even worse so back to stock lock.
I am quite certain that option must still be in there. It was a tick box that stated lock all buttons except power button.

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You're not as bad as me when I play COD/MW2 then, or you would have made several references to "the C word" lol
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No - I'm the same exactly. I just was trying to be polite so I didn't get told off here!

How to lock all buttons exept power button

how to lock all buttons exept the power button in wm6.5 ?
In wm6.1 it was possible to change that in settings/keys menu. But in wm6.5 this is gone for some stupid reason!
I dont want to use ext. app like pocketshield for such a basic and simple feature.
Reason: when phone is screenlocked - any hardwarekey wake up phone from standby. And of course the screen pops up and drain battery. HD2 keys are recessed and in the pocked can easyly accidentialy get pressed. When screen weaks up for some reasons (incoming call or other notification event) the buttons are not locked and i dont need to describe what funny things can happen then (just imagine on your own). Even accidentialy changes to my settings happened in my pocket without recognising.
HTC: this is ridiculous.
Pls help. Is there maybe a easy reghack to activate this basic feature again, like it was implemented in previous Rom versions?

the button lock in WM6.5 is the same as WM6.1 (got X1 before)
but in HD2 it's different.. and I don't think anyone solved this problem yet...

No known solution indeed, apart from using S2U2, and if you want to save more battery adding proximitylock.

what if you locked the keys while you are making a call with bluetooth and you want to look in your phone? You'd have to press the "end call/power" button..
Also since the power button turns the screen off, I automaticly press the same button to turn the screen on when I'm not making a call.. I can't count the times I've ended a call by accident like this.. another great design flaw of this phone

I still hope someone will find a solution for a working hardwarebuttonlock

no one found a solution yet?
i'm having the same problem and strangely i am irritating myself to death on this,
Not a good job HTC!

Phone self unlock

Hi. all
I have a problem, every time i listening to the music my phone unlocks-activates (like pressing the home button or power ones),
It is happening only when i listen to music, i tryied 3 different palyer (apollo, n7player, mort player), the same happened.
Does any one else have the same problem??
It's a problem for me because when i have phone in my pocket sometimes it start to select different things like call or starts some programs etc.
Can someone help? some solution
I'm on CM10 the newest

I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.

Teh_Chuz said:
I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.
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ya i now, but i have pattern thats why i'm asking about solution.
If anybody knows please give a feedback
Thanks.

If i remember correct there is an option somewhere in settings which says - 'volume key wakes screen' - check if thats enabled

no it isn't that, it unlocks it self with no phone touching.
today it happened in my pocket with no reason, with now app activated, by it self totally, and i called some person by misstake
Stupid bug

Strange haven't heard of any such bug yet but it'd be worth trying re flashing the rom from ground up
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That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay

kotu7 said:
That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay
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Hi! I have another very old Android phone (still with 2.2) and I have the same problem as you. I have a pattern + an app called Hidden Lock. There is a free Lite version and a paid Pro version of the app. Either of them will do the job.
The app creates for you additional lock screen. In this lock screen you have created an invisible button in a position that you only know. When you touch a button (hardware key, touch, volume rocker) or your screen unlocks, the program starts and displays "Hidden lock" message. Then you have to literally find the place on the screen where you have put your unlocking button and press it TWICE.
After that you can go to the draw pattern (android lock screen) and unlock it. This is double security for your phone - that's what I need, personally - I can't feel calm If I don't have such locker - my hardware lock key doesn't work and sometimes for now reason my phone unlocks... This is the only app that helps me.
I hope my post was helpful. Cheers!

Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
I Sent this sitting in the WC

h4x0r007 said:
Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
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I do the same thing, but i was just wondering if somone had the same problem and fix it in side the system not by additional lock security or by fliping it.
But thanks for your replay, i'll just hope someone from Dev people will find answer to that.