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Actually CLOSING programs using the HW-keys

With the Wizard I used VJOKButt with the IE-button so that I could close programs and dialogs without using the stylus.
The TyTN/Hermes has it's own OK button(s), and I was wondering if anyone knows a way these buttons can actually close (or be reconfigured to launch VJOKButt) programs?
I've already tried AE Button Plus but couldn't set a custom action for the OK button (allthough this might be because I didn't register the program)...
Any tips would be apreciated!

Moskus, if I ever get my computer working again,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=345461#345461
I may try to build such a feature in to VJOkButt, but I'd rather people be able to use their own button mappers. However, if AE Button plus doesn't do it, then I may try to build in this feature.
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Actually it does work, you just have to add it as a new button (menu | add button). I've got my OK hardware button mapped to ok/close for one press and close front application for a long press.
Steven

I certainly would love it if is was build in to VJOKButt, Vijay!
I guess I'll try AEButton again (for now). Didn't see that "Add button" feature.. :wink:
EDIT: The AEButton finds the hardware OK button, but the combination of VJOKButt and AEButton won't close the application, just minimize it. :?

With AE Button Plus 2.4.3 beta and upwards, you can capture and map the "ok" and "windows" buttons. Have set mine to close apps with 2 depresses of the "ok" button.

can it be done by tweaking some of the registry rather to instsall some of the 3rd party program?

Hmmm... I should have investigated some more. Now it works!

PQzII let's you map any button on the hermes (and universal) to anything you want...it is really great. It has an option to make the ok button a 'really close button' and much more.
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/PQzII.htm
You can find out a lot about it in this forum by searching for pqzII.

Hi All,
I'm trying AEBPlus and I tried to map the OK button the side to be "OK/Close" for one press and "Close active application" for two presses. however, the single press doesn't seem to work. Pressing it once no longer minimizes applications or funciton as the OK/Close button. In fact it does nothing. I'm using a CHT9000 with the Dopod English Rom. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks!

Moskus said:
Any tips would be apreciated!
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how about good old smartskey? it works in my Hermes, press&hold right softkey removes active window from memory.

Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response

OK buttons NOT mappable under WM5..not through menus anyway!
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Aye, but until it supports OK button it's less intuitive. The newest version support the OK button on the Prophet but this operates the PIE button on the Hermes. I've PM'd Water about it but no response
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I agree. On my HTC Prophet using Wisbar Advanced 2, I am able to map the 'OK' button to 'Close/OK' option of the Wisbar application, which did close all my programs etc. On my VarioII the 'OK' buttons are not mappable. Bummer!!

Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...

How d'u use it this PQZII? Help!!
MAKBET said:
Try PQZII for me is fantastic, not only to close programs, you can map everithing...
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Forgive my stupidity, but I'm currently using it, but haven't a clue how to get it to that for sure. It seems to work for some applications, but not for others. Any tips or guides for dummies like me :lol:

I'll join the dummies club too!

PQzII would be perfect if we could attach key presses of the same key to different apps like in AE button plus.
unfortunately, once PQzII captures the button, it overides AE button plus, meaning the 2 can't work together on the same button.
also found out that AE button plus 2.5 doesn't capture the windows button at all. Investigated back and found that only 2.4.3 beta did.

I dont know AEbutton so I dont understand why you want use both the programs. (note: also PQZ dose not configure well the win button) but you can configure any other button, eg: alt+left to close program (I put alt in internet button so if I want to close a program I press "internet program" and "left".

I've mapped my 'Button 5' (under settings/Buttons...) to 'Close/ok' of the Wisbar Advanced settings, which does close everything. Just until, as bydandie said, a more intuitive method can be achieved by using the 'ok' button.

in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try

MAKBET said:
in PQZII there is an option to make ok button to close, I dont use that option because I want to have some programs running down, you can try
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How do you do that MAKBET? Please share. Details please. :wink:

OK and WIN button do not work

My OK and WIN button launch nothing anymore.
I have a TyTN and the OK and WIN button on the front side and on the external keyboard are like inactive.
How can I restore their default behavior ? where is it located in the registry ?

chris247 said:
My OK and WIN button launch nothing anymore.
I have a TyTN and the OK and WIN button on the front side and on the external keyboard are like inactive.
How can I restore their default behavior ? where is it located in the registry ?
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HAve you installed AEButtonPlus by any chance?

Yes, I install AEbutton. Is that the reason ?
I am going to uninstall it to try if I will have my OK and WIN button back.
I installed AEbutton for the copy/paste possibility that you can assign to a button (very useful), I will miss that, but I miss my 2 buttons even more.

I uninstalled AEButton, and made soft reset.
The OK and WIN buttons are still not working :-(

I have just installed ButtonMapper instead of AEButton, I now have the OK button working again !!
But the WIN button is still not working.
Anyone knows how I could get my WIN button working again ?

My OK button is fine, but my WIN button works intermittently. Sometimes it takes three or four presses to register and bring down the Start menu. In contrast, the WIN/OK combined button under the scroll wheel always works without fail. Annoying!

chris247 said:
I have just installed ButtonMapper instead of AEButton, I now have the OK button working again !!
But the WIN button is still not working.
Anyone knows how I could get my WIN button working again ?
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TBH, I'd uninstall button mapper, then run something like SKTools to clear all errant shortcuts and and notification queue entries. Then see where you go from there. Failing that, I'd recommend a hard reset.

bydandie, good idea I will have a look at sktools.
Do you know how does button handling work under the hood ?
what process is launched when I press a button ?

Good question....
I'm thinking a way to change my hard button links without installing a 3rd party software.
Is it possible modifying Registry?
Any other idea?

chris247 said:
bydandie, good idea I will have a look at sktools.
Do you know how does button handling work under the hood ?
what process is launched when I press a button ?
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No, but I do know that in the past when I tried AEButtonplus, I got the same issues as you, but with an uninstall it cured it. It may be worth reinstalling AEButtonplus and then ensure within the app the the Win and OK buttons have nothing assigned to them.
I'm not sure what it calls, ,the codes look different from what is used by things such as the Soft-Key mapper

JmJ17 said:
Good question....
I'm thinking a way to change my hard button links without installing a 3rd party software.
Is it possible modifying Registry?
Any other idea?
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Normally the hard buttons can be found under HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Shell/Keys
There you will find a series of subkeys beginning with 40C
Each subkey correspond to a hard button. For instance on my ppc 40C1 is the calendar hard button. So try to find the subkeys related to Ok and Win buttons and change the default value by the path of the app you want to launch. By default, the hard buttons applications links can be found under
/Windows/AppButtons
Cheers,
.Fred
ps.: I don't have an OK and WIN buttons on my ppc, so maybe its different for these two...

Thanks for the information dotFred, I have had a look on the registry and in the windows folder.
You are right the linking between the application and the hard button is made here, but only for the configurable buttons that you can configure in WM5 settings/button. Unfortunately the TyTN's OK and WIN button on the front and on the side of the PocketPC are not included :-(

I'd also like a way to configure the function of the start button, and the side OK/start button. I have installed Smallmenu and would like those buttons to open it instead of opening the standard start menu.
Any ideas?

I noticed on my 8525 that when i put some programs onto my memory card it deactivated these two buttons as well. You might try uninstalling some recent programs. (the program that caused problems with me was an expired trial version of WA2 that i moved onto my card.)

[Q] Can The Home Button Be Reprogrammed??

I was wondering if someone knows how to reprogram the home and back 'Hard Buttons'. I'v done alot of searching but without success. One of the sites I visited stated that the buttons are non-programable except for the 'Voice Command Button' .
I even went through creating a new button in the registry. The option becomes available in settings but nothing happens to the buttons.
Just some infor from anyone would be helpfull

try aebutton plus

Cheers Mate
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try aebutton plus
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Works like a charm, Thanx for the infor

PQzII
I find this conflicts with PQzII and I can't remap the home button on my touch pro.

why have aebutton plus AND pqzii?

PQzII is better
you can do more with PQzII

Assigning Buttons

Okay, I can see that I can assign long-press Send and End keys, but I want to assign a function to the Back key (short press) - can it be done?

since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...

I'm not sure that Volume slider has been mappable on any of these devices. Previously I used SPB PocketPlus to map buttons, but on the HD the poplists in the setup don't work so I can't try it...

I am currently using AEBPlus to assign the buttons.I was able to map volume up, volume down and ok buttons to various functions.But unfortunately I am unable to map the HOme button.Can anyone let me know how to assign some functions for HOme button using AEBPlus please?
regards
vijay

Brilliant! AE Button Plus works perfectly, OK=Back. I love this site...

any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?

truthseekers said:
any way to get volume to be shutter release in camera mode?
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You don't need to ask the same question wherever you go and also create a thread for that!

ok
i see what you mean. I just figured it might not get read if here at the end of an older thread... hehe you mods notice everything ;-)

Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.

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Can someone tell me if AEBPlus could reassign the phone on and off buttons too? I would like to use these buttons for other purposes and just use the screen to operate the phone, if possible.
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Yes you can.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Beauty!
Then I have no more issue with the lack of D-pad now.

panosha said:
Yes you can.
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Could you explain how to configure to apply to on off button.
Aside from that, does someone know how to get "long" working?
It tried to give the "Back arrow" additional functions.
1,2,3 times work fine, but long does not.
Also what is the default action of "Back arrow"
I do not find it on the list? Which number
So I could configure 1 times with default action
and 2 and 3 with something else.

Home button on AE plus
Has anyone found the home button "name" in AU Button plus yet?
This thread mentioned the name for the "back"-button is "OK" in AE button plus and that does work. (except foor the long press option, that I could not get to work, but double tap works fine)

pzucchel said:
since i come from trinity - which had the scrolling wheel - I'd like to replace the volume buttons with "almost equivalent" functionality....possible at all? don't know...
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pzucchel, I'm with you! I've realised that I actually used the scroll wheel on the Trinity much more than the D-pad, so AE buttons is a godsend!
I've got volume up/down to become arrow up/down, but how about the Trinity press-to-select on the scroll wheel? I can't get the long press on the vol buttons to work otherwise it'd be perfect...

What version of AEBPlus are you using?
I installed AEBPlus 2.6.3 to enable turning the screen while pressing the volume up button.
This version is a 14 day trail version, there is however a freeware 1.0.1 version but that one is not officialy supporting the Blackstone.
Which version are you using? I find $14 a lot for changing the behaviour of one key...

AEButton will NOT stop working after 14 days, and all the functions you really want will still be there
What is the difference between trial and registered version?
Two things only:
1. Splash screen appears during device starting up.
2. "Action list" is blocked in trial mode
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http://ae.inc.ru/aebplusfaq.php

Good to know! Didn't see that when reading the website...
Anyway - is there an easy trick to assign the "volume up" pressed for >1 sec to rotating the screen to landscape (270 deg) and portrait?
/me is thinking of a registry tweak...

I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?

tomasn said:
I just got a Touch HD and installed AE Button Plus and it works great for assigning different tasks for the button below the screen.
However I have not been able to find a which button in AE Button (if any) that corresponds to the Home button. Has anyone else here been able to assign any tasks to double-clicking the Home button?
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There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654

Yerry said:
There is an alternative: MobileMagic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449654
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OK, I can see that you want to push your own solution but as far as I can see it does not support the Home button either. Also it supports a lot fewer actions than AE Button Plus does.

AEB Plus....

Does anyone know if AEB works in the TP2 I'd very much like to change the buttons, I miss my scroll wheel and I'd like to make the volume rocker scroll up and down instead
Cheers,
DJ

I'd have made ONLY: 1 press volume button down to ''scroll down'' & long press same button to ''speaker vol down''. Same for volume button up.
I"d try make something with other buttons but unsucsessfull

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DJ_Enigma said:
Does anyone know if AEB works in the TP2 I'd very much like to change the buttons, I miss my scroll wheel and I'd like to make the volume rocker scroll up and down instead
Cheers,
DJ
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Its very unstable with the other buttons...volume button I haven't tried.

Tried all buttons, but most of them won't work.
Volume works great for single-double-tripple and long, but that's about it.
Did not find any change in Menu-button or changes on phone buttons. I could not find the 'Button 1' on the device.
So, it was a great program for my qtek9000, it's almost useless for this one... I hope they will be able to get all buttons!
Besides, I'm hoping for someone to hack the zoom-slide to change it into 4 buttons... (eg. in this order: left-up-down-right so we might use AE to change those buttons)

I use the latest version on my TPro2 and it works like a charm.
No problems at all.

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Vanstra said:
I use the latest version on my TPro2 and it works like a charm.
No problems at all.
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The same way: it works perfectly...

Does someone know, how to access this key
I'm using AEBplus on my HTC Touch2 aka Mega and would like to remap the key with an arrow to the left. See also the picturee.
Does somebody know how to do this. In the program I can't find it.
Regards
cimber

no one any idea ?
From Alexander Eltsyn also no answer.
Regards
cimber

Forget AEB
Sorry to say that, but with this device, there is no need for AEB anymore.
Look for this App and be happy...;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
A Must-Have-App and absolutely perfect.

Whumpscut said:
Sorry to say that, but with this device, there is no need for AEB anymore.
Look for this App and be happy...;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=554240
A Must-Have-App and absolutely perfect.
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X2 this app is wonderful!!!

the answer
cimber said:
From Alexander Eltsyn also no answer.
Regards
cimber
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Now the answer did come !!!
See here :
As for your question:
At least some of the HTC devices implements “back” button scan code to generic “Ok” button. So you could just try to re-define “Ok” in bplus settings list and see if it will work on “back” button.
There are 3 situations with buttons:
- button is already in list but could be named differently.
- button could be added via File -> Add Button in bplus settings menu.
- button is implemented on a driver level making impossible interception by application-level software like BPlus.
Regards
cimber
PS : the "back"- button is assigned on the HTC Touch2 like the "ok" - button in AEBplus