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Is it worth holding onto the HD2?

Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"​
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?

Beacause mine is on contract, haha.

I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least untill end of this year.

Another thing is, while it does contain great hardware, no one is optimizing their programs for it. TCPMP is a great all around player that does not take advantage of the HD2 hardware.

my advice would be...if you like or love the phone keep it...a phone is special in its own ways...android/wm7 may or may not come...but something else could come out...and if you love the phone ,the interface shouldnt bother you...

there are many ppl who are trading their nexus one for the hd2 cuz you cant put wm in nexus...all phones are not perfect

Phenomenon said:
Currently I own the Tmobile HD2.
I love it and think that it's a great device.
Still a lot is making me wonder if it's worth holding on to with WM7 coming out and Android OS out.
So many people reply to this by saying:
"XDA developers are going to port Android and WM7 to it"​
Still, I can't help but feel that there are SO MANY developers out there giving reason why it can't happen, won't happen, will never happen. I hate to see that the machine that is up to par with the Nexus one has no chance of being updated OFFICIALLY AND UNOFFICIALLY. So what's the point of holding on to it? Why keep this device when more than likely within this year it will be pretty much void to any further programs for Windows Mobile 7. Can people here explain why would it be worth holding on to?
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If you like the phone for what it is NOW, keep it. If you only have the phone for what you hope it will do in the future, get rid of it now while it's still worth a lot. There will be plenty of devices coming out that will be as good or better for every other OS out there, so go with what OS you want. I personally want a WinMo device, and the HD2 could quite possibly be one of the last great WinMo 6.5 devices made, so I'm quite happy owning it. I don't care if they port android or WP7 to it. It would be great to play with them, but WinMo is my OS for now.

myth1001 said:
I was tempted to go for HTC Desire. But considering I spend quite a big sum for this phone, I supposed I should hold on to it a little longer, at least until end of this year.
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I had my Desire for a whole day before taking it back and returning to my hd2.. The android os was fantastic but the phones hardware was poor. I.e chassis and screen.. (not the snapdragon) I couldn't live with the screen issues where it makes things that should be grey, pink....
Going to stick with the hd2 for a while now.. If not my original one as I have just chopped it in for a new one. I really look after my devices but now i can compare my original one (received on release) with my new one I have noticed the buttons have really lost there "click" they feel very spongy after 6 months..
Really hoping we seen android on the hd2 soon!

I am keeping mine 100% ... I have been using Android, Symbian and now HD2 and gotta say (recently installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.3) and must admit - it is a hardware beast. I am interested to see this phone running dual boot WMN and Android - until then I will play with SPB Mobile Shell... Oh yeah - almost forgot... in next couple of years I'll sel it back home (European country) for bunch of euros and get another good phone of that time lol...

i would like to see webos on the hd2. i bought an hd2 telstra because i can run the apps that i have on my sony x1a and for its larger screen but the hd2 is a humungus beast. i like the form factor of the palm pre plus and may pick one up when it comes out on at&t. i do think wm is kind of a dying breed... especially if wm7 programs will not be backwards compatible.

Impulse
I woke up yesterday morning. Surf to look for a new present for myself (which falls today) and contemplating on Nexus One, iPhone or Milestone (Droid). Saw an advert on Touch HD. Looked at Touch HD2. Contacted the guy selling at 8am and bought it at 10am. Now my HD2 is 1 day old w me.
So far? Its much better than iPhone in terms of smoothness of transition and app (love snapdragon) and image quality. (my bro had the iphone so i compared) Could use a bigger batt. (have been using HP 910c and that has the big battery option at 1940mAh)
My personal opinion. Love it. Its nice.

Would you get new HD2 if yours is broken?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?

let's say your HD2 fell in water, or fell on the floor, or for some reason was suddenly not operating and cannot be fixed, and you have to buy another unit.
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Ok, i prefer not to think of that situation though
will you get yourself a new HD2 now that you really know the device? or buy another phone?
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Hard to say if i get another HD2 as there are many other phones out there with the same spec as an HD2. But if there were not id buy an HD2 in a moment as its a great phone, great screen, excellent call quality, active rom creating community for upgraded / custom roms .. Yeah it is a great device and id give it some thought if id have to purchase a new one ..
What would you buy if not another HD2 and why?
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Probably id get a DroidX when it arrives. It has a similar spec and screen size as the HD2 and looks very nice .. Id be able to surf the web no probs on that device which is the primary reason i bought the HD2, so for me any device that has a large screen for web surfing and allows me to make a call once in a while would do me fine .. Hey would the 5" Dell Streak be too big for the pocket, hmm id give that one some thought too

Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.

I love my leo too, buti'll buy a droidX if I have to change quicker.

I like it, but prefer android based OS.
So if I could get as big a screen with TMOUSA, then I would change.

I'll wait for HD3

no, I will never buy such device.
Why? read my posts, there and then on this forum, including compete list of what's very wrong with it.
In short:
-poor support
-poor amount of updates, actually over because HTC discontinued the device
-official rom suck and is buggy
-HTC's philosophy to attack the one making roms
-Stupid design (sound, power button on the front, etc...)
Etc...
Also, I look competition and I see new Motorolla X, and I'm tempted to say: wow.
I heard feedback from people with droid and they did not have to wait custom roms to say "it works"...

If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.

Well, I ran into such a situation. My HD2 was not recognizing any sim card 50% of the time. And when it did, it only lasted for a short while. After trying all non invasive fixes, I decided to "operate" on it, taking it down to the screen. Still couldnt get it right. So I bought another one. I think it is a great phone for what I use it for. And, now I have a parts phone!

interesting question
Currently happned to me something similar. Phone has fallen out of my pocket on the ground, it was only 50-60cm, but screen is broken like if someone throw it against a bricked wall.
It will cost me at least 150EUR, bad luck. They do not repair only glass because is stick together with display and removing can break it.
I saw it at some thread ,that this is more problem of the hole around hw keys at the bottom. So basicly the design of the front panel, when phone is falling at bottom side.
But if it will be destroyed completely, I am not sure, but probably I will buy something else:
- phone itself is almost 9 months old, there are or shortly will be better phones
- there are still bugs after almost a year, and if they are solved they are not available for customers, for example official region version differencies
- is good that somewhere at forum is ROM which helps with battery consumption in standby mode, but you are not able to use it, basicly you are forced to break waranty otherwise you will be keep on usatisfied with device and forced to wait for official version for your region and wait and etc.
I like this device, but I am not blind to see weak points of the device or company policy, so it is almost 50-50 but time is ticking and competition will bring us better phones soon, I am optimist

If that happened tomorrow, Id get a HTC Desire.
If it happened just before the Nokia E5 is released, Id go buy a cheapo phone to tide me over till E5's release.

HD2s are really cheap now on ebay, and I have a pretty fair library built up already so chances are good I'd pick up another one. Although it's equally likely I'd get a big Dell Streak. I mean have you seen the thing? Its keyboard has a numeric keypad!!!

If I absolutely needed a phone immediately, it would be a toss up between another HD2 or iPhone 4. Android on the HD2 seems closer every day so having that option would be nice - but I've got WinMo exactly how I like it and I don't mind it at all. Further, lets face it, the 4.3" screen size is just spoiling. I wouldn't switch for an Evo, and the DroidX is just TOO big.
If I could wait a few months, I'd look for a HD3 / other WP7 device... or an iPhone 4.

lexx-luthor said:
If I broke my leo, I'd get a HD4, cause I hear its going to have a flux capacitor and be capable of generating the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power it.
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but doesn't that run plutonium

nope, i want to move to the other platform
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0% chance that i will buy blackberry
5% chance: that i will buy iphone 4
15% chance that i will buy n900
25% chance that i will buy the nokia n8
10% chance that i will buy the meego device
45% chance that i will buy the android device

Pagnell said:
Nope, I love my Leo but I'd get an Android device and will be doing so when I can upgrade next January. I'd like to stick with a 4.3" screen though so therefore I'd like an Evo. But HTC have decided not to sell them in the UK so it would have to be a Desire.
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Ditto, Desire all the way. I am looking into Android a little more lately, I most probably won't, but I am trying to persuade myself to buy one.

I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else.
Having said that it would be a close call i am due an upgrade on one of my contracts and was looking yesterday on the vodafone site, jeepers have you seen the prices on the Iphone 4's, flipping eck even if i wanted one i wouldn't get one, thats one expensive phone...
And having had a look around i've decided to stay with my HD2 for a while until something else comes out...

"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.

Android is the future
I know that hurts, especially all of us that have HD2(Windows mobile), but Android based devices are future. So probably if I broke my phone(I hope not), I will buy EVO or Desire. But I want to point out, i will never buy iPhone 4.

Spacechimp said:
"I might get a Desire not because i don't like my HD2 but because i always have an itch to try something else."
I know what you mean. I spent a year or so with my WM Tytn II - loved it then kind of got irritated by it's clunkiness ... had a Hero with Android for a year - loved it then kind of got bored and wanted a change ... ended up losing it and taking the HD2 as a replacement.
Android has some great integration, especially for social networking, but IMO it's not a great OS for business and things like emailing/file management. WM appears to be lacking in the former (although the HD2 is better because of HTC's work) but stronger in the latter.
For those reasons, I'd like to stick with the HD2 and see what my upgrade options are - iPhone 4 is an obvious option for me, but it's not often seen as the greatest tool for business etc.
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Well, after reading all the previous posts, I was almost convinced to change to Droids, but reading your post, and the fact that you had TYTNII like i did, and you tried Droid for a year, i am sure you have a good point that droids are goo for social networking (showing off) and WM is good for business, and business is what i need.
but reading other posts and looking at my past 4 years experience in HTC, i am more than convinced that HTC company sucks, so i will try to find a better WM device from another company, but i am not sure if there is any

Bye, bye X2!

I got tired of my X2, of its software as well as hardware flaws, crappy camera, absent USB storage mode, green-tinted and too small screen, underpowered CPU etc. And I don't believe SE is able and even willing to fix all related problems, so I got rid of the phone.
As my main phone I'll still use old HTC Kaiser and as as secondary borrowed SE Satio (which can't be used as primary, because of crappy UI and the problem of sometimes resetting itself).
Maybe in future I'll buy an old X2 to play with it, because I still have a weak spot for WM for being possible to tweak it extensively

Best decision ever made.

looks like alot of people are jumping ship on this overpriced brick, and ill be one of them as soon as i can get my hands on an iPhone 4

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looks like alot of people are jumping ship on this overpriced brick, and ill be one of them as soon as i can get my hands on an iPhone 4
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I wish you luck guys!
I'm staying.

Well, the X2 has been a crappy downgrade for me as well after the Diamond. I guess atm I cant afford to purchase the HD2 else that'd be my first choice.
By some weird twist of fate (or maybe cos its just crap) the X2 is cheaper than the HD2, but one of the dumbest decisions I've ever made to go for it.

Im thinking very seriously to switch to the X10... the x2 its a very bad experience

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I wish you luck guys!
I'm staying.
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there are only two ways that i will stay with the X2
1) SE pull there finger out and give us a phone that is fully functional or at least 90% functional
2) HardSPL comes around and either a functional winmo 6.5 rom or Android rom is created
i dont feel happy about putting the X2 on ebay for some other poor sole to put up with this expensive brick

Thinking about switching to the Vibrant (NO ITS NOT BECAUSE OF HATE FOR MY PHONE!-_-)

Thinking about switching to the Vibrant because I'm on T-Mobile US and I bought the X10 before it was even sold in America and I bought it unlocked and imported here so I don't have any warranty etc on my phone. So I'm thinking would it be easier for me to just get a phone from my service provider because if anything happens to my phone that would be the end of my phone life for a while (well until I buy a next one). I know this was something I should of thought about before buying it but back then I thought it didn't matter but I think it might now and also it doesn't help with the way Sony Ericsson acts O_O. And yes I know that Vibrant has it own problems no phone is perfect but its something I really have to think about and wanted to know someone else thoughts. (And I will say this again, I love my X10 so please no stupid flaming)

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Thinking about switching to the Vibrant because I'm on T-Mobile US and I bought the X10 before it was even sold in America and I bought it unlocked and imported here so I don't have any warranty etc on my phone. So I'm thinking would it be easier for me to just get a phone from my service provider because if anything happens to my phone that would be the end of my phone life for a while (well until I buy a next one). I know this was something I should of thought about before buying it but back then I thought it didn't matter but I think it might now and also it doesn't help with the way Sony Ericsson acts O_O. And yes I know that Vibrant has it own problems no phone is perfect but its something I really have to think about and wanted to know someone else thoughts. (And I will say this again, I love my X10 so please no stupid flaming)
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I had the Bell Vibrant, well my wife did, let me tell you and i am not talking out of my ass STAY AWAY from it! I havent had more problems with any phone that i have ever owned except this one..its a disaster a dissapointing experience, we returned it in a week. Where do i start..first the phone feels cheap very cheap its very light and it doesnt give you a solid expensive smartphone feel but instead it feels like a toy that yould break just by holding it. Its really uncomfortable in the hand compared to the x10 anyway the problems.. reboots itself, turns off by itself, freezes, lags with or withought the lag fix, signal is very poor for some reason and kind of has that same thing that the iphone has..if i hold it it my hand with or without a case it looses a couple of bars. The call quality is ****ty people complained that hey hear crackling noise all the time. The screen is only good for pictures and movies thats it! The pixels are visible from a mile away, colors are not real, there is a lot of tint issues blue, yellow whites. Gps is a joke and a really bad one too its just ridiculous. the camera is crappy too ... also the phone is supposed to have 512 ram but it only shows 300somthing on the froyo rom total ram.. strange... I wont keep going because there is many little things and i have already said all this in other posts and threads and i dont really want to be repeating myself a lot because it gets anoying. Anyway the phone as a whole package is not worth it imo its just too unstable and unreliable and cheap feeling.. but do your research for yourself check the galaxy s forums and see what problems there are and if you can live with them..

I agree with nankov I. Went to local wireless store they told me just keep the x10 when it gets 2.1 it will be much nicer and she told me she get a lot of returns from galaxy s customers. I'm glad she was working there otherwise I would've bought the galaxy s. If u really don't like x10 go with desire my wife has it much nicer better build and alot of custom roms and very fast.
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Don't bother with the Desire unless you want a smaller screen than you have now.
The new Desires are coming out soon anyway.

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I agree with nankov I. Went to local wireless store they told me just keep the x10 when it gets 2.1 it will be much nicer and she told me she get a lot of returns from galaxy s customers. I'm glad she was working there otherwise I would've bought the galaxy s. If u really don't like x10 go with desire my wife has it much nicer better build and alot of custom roms and very fast.
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Or go for Desire HD that looks good im probably gonna wait to see what the next SE flagship will be because i have a feeling it will be very good. Anyway just hold of to Christmas and see what comes out because all the 2011 devices will start rolling out.

I just picked up an acer liquid s, and let me tell you, I could not be happier with a phone, no lag, no call issues, everything is snappy and nice. I only have ten apps that I install on all my android phones, I don't install anything else, so my experience from one device to another is fairly controlled. I have to say that having froyo is worth the switch, voice actions make everything so much easier, and flash is kind of a fun gimmick to show off to all the smug folk who tote around their new iphone4's, even though I think flash is a useless waste of time myself. love the phone, espesially the fact that when it's asleep, it only wakes on power button, not any of the other buttons like the x10. bottom line, if I thought x10 were to recieve froyo this year, I would have stayed, but I don't see that happening x10 does make for a pretty paper weight though

Wait, what do you mean "Other buttons like the X10" ?
The only buttons that work are the Power Button and Home Button, expected behavior for a touch screen phone. Look at the iPhone.

[CHAT] How long do you think you will keep your HD2 for...?

I've posted in Android General here as I reckon it's those of us who have switched OSs who are getting a Second Life(TM) from their HD2s...
Personally, I am finding my phone experience so different from the WinMo days. At that time I was always switching ROMs, always trying to get better use from the phone/solve the glitches, but never quite getting there (altho there is/was fantastic work from the ROM devs here)
But now with Android, I find my experience is great, and glitch-free. I'm still always playing with new ROMs, but only for the excitement of new features rather than to solve annoyances. I've had my HD2 a year and I personally think I could stay with it even another 2 years.
The hardware has been (imo) perfected for the current time (4.3" screen, decent processor, nice form-factor, expandable micro-SD), and all the excitement now is in Google's OS improvements, with perhaps two new iterations of Android planned for this year. Even to the extent that I would be tempted to buy a spare HD2 for future use (as my hardware buttons may be about to give way...)
The only features that could cause me to upgrade are:
- Pico Projector (but as a novelty appealing to my geekiness than anything useful)
- HDMI-out (which again, I think I would get use out of perhaps 4 times a year, and as a novelty the rest of the time)
- Maybe a hardware keyboard a la HD7 Pro, but only if it has Android and was as a free upgrade
But apart from that, here is to an almost perfect hardware phone, now matched by perfect and evolving software. Long live HD2!!
So how long do you think you will stay with the HD2?

well my hd2 felt down several times to the floor and has some scratches at the rubber edges now. further i have the "jitterbug" of the touchscreen since first day (is mostly handable with swype)!
so let me think about your question... i guess i will stick to my hd2 for another year! want to buy a device with a hardware keyboard after that.

I agree with you in many ways smeddy. For me the HD2 is perfect in terms of it's size and layout (personally I do not want a hardware keyboard), the processor is snappy enough, the ability to expand the storage with an sd card is brilliant especially with a2sd+ and such like - for me I would have prefered a 1024TMOUS just for the extra space.
The only thing I can see on the horizon that may tempt me away is the Motorola Atria

For me, the only reason i'd upgrade is for more internal memory, say a 8/16gb device, since i'm feeling threatened by my lack of space. So i guess i'll keep my hd2 for maybe 4 months to a year.

I'll probably be keeping it for another year or so till I am due for re-contract. The phone served me well and its still doing well, probably I will get an andriod tablet if I need to make video call from oversea

will use it till it stops working

Waiting for htc dual core

I'll keep mine until this becomes true
http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2011/01/09/2ghz-motorola-atrix-coming-to-orange-soon/
this year will be the year for Motorola

Holy Shi# that thing is sick. I seen one of the devs talk about that phone on irc. Never knew what it was.

I bought it relatively late ...Still have it for a year now without a scratch!The phone has served me well.The options between OSs,the design/yes i really like it !/the functions,the hardware,the display...It is perfect!It is now a LeoNANDroid and i like it even better!
I like how the little Apple fanboys mistake it for iPhone4,i like how the people at my provider's store look like that when they see im runnin Linux/Android.Maybe the only thing i miss is 720p recording...So basicaly i will run it till it dies,then il buy anotherone if i can^^.The best spent $400 in my life!

I'll keep it until something better comes along that makes it worth upgrading. The Moto Atrix looks nice, hardware list wise, but I'll skip it due to it being Motorola. Other companies will release an equivalent or better.
Going back to a slide-out keyboard is very tempting as well.

Ill keep hold of mine for a bit,maybe wait for the Desire HD to come down in price,see what Htc bring at the MWC in Feb,in the mean time im happy with it

good opening post.
I love my HD2 on Android (wish it was a TMOUS though with the additional on board mem.)
NAND Android rocks and I love the hardware and (now) software on the phone.
Would just like a better camera with a real flash ... 720p recording?
So at the moment nothing on the market matches it.
GG

Late to the party but i have just ordered one, had a Blackstone up until Christmas and can't resist the tweakability and amount of OS's this thing can deliver!
Can see myself owning it for at least 2 years!

I have been using HD2 for little over a year. I have flashed so many roms on it; I lost count a long time ago. However, the screen started freezing right before the Android NAND boot came out. I still flashed NAND on my phone to see it works and it did but without the touch screen.
I send my phone to HTC for repair last week and it is on the way back. I am planning to keep it for at least another year. The only thing I am missing is a front camera for video chatting and the ability to go 4G. I don’t do a lot of video chatting and the 4G is only available at selected location.
I like everything about this phone! The look, the feel, everything…. I don’t have a reason to change the HD2. The support which is available for the phone out there is incredible. When I get bored with a particular style, I flash a new rom! If we get to a point where we use 4G every day, I might change to a 4G phone. Or they have to invent a phone which will make me breakfast, lunch and dinner!

HD2 is definitely a keeper.

How long do you think you will keep your HD2 ?
That's a question that can only be answered by my wife's wallet
Cheers,
/Cacti

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will use it till it stops working
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This.
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The Atrix does look interesting. Thanks for he heads-up.
I think "use it until it stops working" is the most concise way of stating it
Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact

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Johncmolyneux - from Northampon! I've followed your work so much on XDA, and never knew you were from my hometown, well from Wellingborough to be exact
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Thanks man - it's appreciated
I've moved about a bit, but keep ending up back in Northampton. It's a good place, as is Wellingborough. If you ever need any assistance, come round my house Not really
BIGUP The Northants!!!