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Tethering: Is there a way to avoid being detected by Big Red?

In my sig, you'll see my phone history. With Alltel, I paid a low flat rate for internet service that allowed tethering. Now that I have the Ozone, Verizon requires that I pay $30.00 a month for unlimited access through my phone. The moment I tether, Verizon recognizes it and requires I sign up for their Mobile Connect plan of 5GB access a month for an additional $30.00 a month.
That's $60.00 a month folks for a service I paid half for with Alltel.
Is their a way to circumvent detection? I'm a truck driver and the phone and computer are my only sources of entertainment while I am gone for weeks on the road. I really love hulu.com. But the limits that I am now restricted to makes it difficult to enjoy CHiPs (go Erik Estrada! lol...)
Seriously, I'm a Battlestar Galactica addict and I need my fix of sexy cylon ass. Any help would be awesome.

Try out
junefabrics.com PdaNet. Worked well with my Palm Treo 700wx as well as my Ozone.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how Verizon detects tethered traffic from handset traffic?

Its not so much that VZW can detect that you tether... its that they've locked down that option from your handset.(*)
I believe that on all VZW smart phones Internet Connection Sharing is either locked down or not even included in the phone's firmware. This means, from VZW's perspective, if a Cust wants to tether they need to get the Vzw Access software... so thats how they know and how they can charge you.
As mentioned in a previous post... pdanet does allow you to get around this. Its worked really well for me, although I've never gotten to Bluetooth tether to work :-(
(*) I have heard rumors that VZW has monitored traffic and has contacted customers who they suspected were tethering under the rationale that they were using too much bandwith w/ their smartphones. This is just second hand rumors though...

Use this and avoid the verizon tethering software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499

drewcam888 said:
Use this and avoid the verizon tethering software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499
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Correct me if I am wrong... but, I looked through that thread and isnt that software package for Windows Pro?
The Willow(Snap/Ozone/3G) are all WinMo Standard. Also, I believe that before you can have a VZW phone like the snap broadcast as a WiFi spot it has to have ICS installed.
Sadly, I've tried to get ICS installed and have tried to get several different HotSpot programs to work an so far nothing has worked on my Ozone. If anyone has successfully done it and wants to share I would greatly appreciate it.

I thought there was also some number like *___ that you could dial when connected to the Maple as a usb/bluetooth modem as the dial in number that would let you access the data. I don't know if this would be detected.

Hate to say it but T-Mobile rocks. I tether all the time on 3G and no extra charges, 20.00 a month and I have unlimited data. Why anyone sticks with Verizon is beyond me... And dont give me the old coverage line, T-Mobile has grown a lot coverage wise and 3G will be nation wide by the end of the year. GSM is the only way to go

Bupahs said:
Hate to say it but T-Mobile rocks. I tether all the time on 3G and no extra charges, 20.00 a month and I have unlimited data. Why anyone sticks with Verizon is beyond me... And dont give me the old coverage line, T-Mobile has grown a lot coverage wise and 3G will be nation wide by the end of the year. GSM is the only way to go
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While T-Mobile has a great data plan, their calling plans are not great. I require national coverage due to where I travel. Alltelwas awesome, Verizon, not so much.
T-Mobile, Sprint, Alltel, and AT&T don't work locally at my house in appalachia, only Verizon. So, it just seemed the logical choice.
I wish Alltel stayed around.

jtraveler said:
While T-Mobile has a great data plan, their calling plans are not great. I require national coverage due to where I travel. Alltelwas awesome, Verizon, not so much.
T-Mobile, Sprint, Alltel, and AT&T don't work locally at my house in appalachia, only Verizon. So, it just seemed the logical choice.
I wish Alltel stayed around.
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When was the last time you checked T-Mobile coverage? I have friends that live on Brown Street in Appalachia, they use T-Mo.

This issue was my first to take care of. Use WMWifirouter. I use it all day, can teather via USB or Wireless. No additional charge.

mbardsley said:
This issue was my first to take care of. Use WMWifirouter. I use it all day, can teather via USB or Wireless. No additional charge.
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Couple questions for you then...
Are you using the OZONE for VZW? And if so, where did you get Internet Connection Sharing since VZW removed it from the phone.
Thanks!

ICS is found here.
Download Here!
You may need to change some settings in ##778 before you connect. Here are some instructions I found on ppcgeeks.
Before you start using Internet Sharing, you need to go into EPST (##778 send) from the Phone Screen,
Choose Edit
Password= 000000,
Press View Info
Select M.IP Default Profile,
Edit DUN NAI and change it to [email protected] (this should match the above 'NAI' setting.)
Phone will reset. Now try using ICS. Should work fine.
I used the above method and was able to connect. wmwifirouter will connect to, so I may purchase that now.

Or just try that WMWifiRouter for free for a month, then buy it, no ICS, cool app.

jtraveler said:
WHOLE BUNCH OF GOOD INFO
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Sweet... thanks alot! I'll give it a shot and report back.

WhatsGoing on here
I cannot download the link to ICS that was posted above (I dont know if it is dead or what) I do havea copy of ICS that i was using on My 6800 but when i Install it on my Ozone it says that it was for a previous version of WinMo. and when i try to install WMWIFIRouter It simply says "Jorrit Jongma WMWifiRouter cannot be installed. Try installing again to a different location choose a location: " Device or Storage Card. and Neither one of them work please help

I know a lot of you out there are using windows pc's but there are a few of us using a mac, with my mac I was able to set up a bluetooth modem connection without changing any settings or buying any programs. When you pair your device (I use a verizon Ozone) it will allow you to use your internet connection. The settings are available in drop down menus and are as follows:
Phone Vendor: Generic
Phone Model: GPRS (GSM/3G)
Username: <blank>
Password: <blank>
APN: <blank>
CID: 1
then I chose to show modem status in the menu bar and it makes it very easy to connect from there.
After that you may need to go to network pref. then to bluetooth and under the default configuration put in a telephone number of #777 include the # sign.
I don't know if this will incur additional charges I just figured out how to do it, I'll update when my next bill comes.
I hope this helps mac users and maybe sheds some light on how a pc user could get their's to work

They work with Window Mobile... I was told that they have a contract with Window Mobile and Window Mobile would report all internet usages on all phone lines to Verizon.

Hi all,
Don't you thing tethering is simply detected from the user agent ?
When I had this type of problems in France, I used :
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/59/
This way, you can have you laptop to send the same uder agent as you Snap with, say, Opera mini.

Jalom said:
Hi all,
Don't you thing tethering is simply detected from the user agent ?
When I had this type of problems in France, I used :
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/59/
This way, you can have you laptop to send the same uder agent as you Snap with, say, Opera mini.
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I don't think so, as you could do it the other way around
Use IE User Agent on your smarthphone - pay as if you were tethering?
Correct me if I'm wrong, and sorry if I shouldn't be reviving this thread.

MMS Working On AT&T Network?

Has anyone been able to get MMS working on the T-Mobile HD2 using AT&T's network?
I downloaded and installed the network wizard cab from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=250891&d=1259353814
Still cannot get MMS to work. I also made sure the proxy was enabled. All settings appear to be correct, is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?

so your tmoUS HD2 is unlocked?

Yes, it works...
I have a T9193 operating on ATT in the US. MMS works great (you can send photos, videos and others) without a hitch.
All I did was install a ROM from the many ones available here (I'm no expert; I used one of Artemis' ROMs). Works great.

DSmithZ28 said:
is this AT&T pouting because they didn't get this device?
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I and many other AT&T users have been using this phone since its European release and have had MMS working without a hitch. For $10 a month data plan and edge speeds ~500 +, I don't really see AT&T making a fuss whether it has this phone or not.

Yeah, I got mine unlocked over the weekend at htc-unlocker.org... 30 bucks but it was worth it....
I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get my MMS working... Text is working, Data is working, but no MMS.... Any ideas??

hey guys i figured out how to get mms on tmous hd2.
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=88058&d=1211735066 install this first
2.the install http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=269964&d=1263970936 then your mms will me enabled

Yes!
I had previously set up my Edge network and it took me awhile to find the MMS settings.
From the Home page go to...
Messages/All Messages/Menu/Settings/Options/Menu/MMS Server/New
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: 66.209.11.32 (This is wireless.cingular.com)
Port number: 80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: MEdia Net
Sending size limitation: 300k
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
Then use menu and set it as default.
Go get your messages!!!

Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.

Thank god I found this, hopefully
Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*

mutantblack said:
Hows the speed on edge? I am thinking about buying Tmobile HD2 and use it on AT&T.
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I really have not noticed much of a difference.
But there is this....
AT&T users: +500kbps on EDGE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627318&highlight=edge+speed
I will be testing it today.

Paradigm_Shift
Any response to my first post?
Thanks if you do.

Finch44 said:
Well, I have been at this since 1pm on 3/30 and it is now 3am on 3/31. Just as I was about to call it a night I found this and thought it might be where I need to be at. I copied Paradigm_Shift's settings which is something i had been looking for all night, since the HD2 input is different from pretty much everything else on att forums, etc. So i have Paradigm's MMS settings. My next question for your Paradigm is what is your MediaNet set to?
Quick backround, i got my HD2 about 2 days before with the wal mart glitch, called tmobile for a free unlock (even though it wasnt out and i wasnt a customer ever, no idea how that worked). Got my unlock code the day the phone was released. And just today (yesterday now) realized i couldnt do MMS. I have unlimited texts with AT&T which include MMS so i know thats not the problem. I just know it has to be my MediaNet settings. So if yours is working, Paradigm, would you mind posting and I can compare? Ive honestly exhausted wwhat I thought was every possible way, so im hoping when I see yours or someone that has MMS working, i will find my error and be on my way with the best/sexiest smartphone eva! Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Like i said, ive been at this for essentially a day and had to post. The closest thing i ever found was this which contained a cab file that created media net profile but apparently doesnt work (obviously):
..... okay nevermind, i guess n00bs cant post links so ill just say it was on a site called fuzemobility and the author was Doug Smith, his latest article.
Thanks again. Ill be checking this tomorrow after work........ which is in 4 hours. FML. This phone has already consumed me.
Oh yes, quick side note- theres no way for AT&T to tell what phone we have and force a data plan onto us (for those of us that dont) since this is technically a tmo phone, right? *Fingers crossed*
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Wow, really glad to have helped.
Here is what I used...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362586
The path there is lightly different.
Home Page/Settings/Wireless Controls/Data connection/Advanced/Select Networks
And I only used the MEdia Net settings.
He also has an additional connection "AT&T ISP:"
which is used for tethering. (I currently do not know if we are going to need this b/c of the possible wifi router ability).
I found this additional support information from AT&T. It gives you a solid foundation.
MEdia Net: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84444
MMS: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=62373

Plot Thickens
Thanks a lot for the response Paradigm. Honestly, this post started with "Looks like the search continues." But no less than 10 seconds ago, i got the HTC jingle that my message had downloaded!!!!! Oh my god! Honestly, the only thing i noticed that I changed were PORT numbers for proxy. Just because I know how stressful this was for me, I am going to post pictures of each page of the MediaNet setup when I get off work to hopefully help someone else.
Again, thanks Paradigm a thousand times. Its funny because I do remember getting that site from google earlier in the night, but I was so sure the medianet settings were already set correctly from a cab file i downloaded. So happy to see I now get my MMS
Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
But again, Paradigm, thanks for atleast getting me to receive MMS. I now understand why XDA rules. If anyone has any advice/tips/etc on my now current dilemma, go ahead and post it and Ill give it a shot.
Look to seeing those pics posted sometime after i get off work around 5ish (arizona/west coast time).
Happy I decided to join the community.

Finch44 said:
Of course, this amazing news is somewhat dampended by the following text I just received from AT&T -
"Did you know a data plan is required for your SMartphone?"
followed almost immediately by the text
"Your smartphone requires a data plan. We had added the appropriate plan for your smartphone. Call 611 for more info"
*Sigh* So I guess my hopes and dreams of staying on my wifi undetected are thwarted once again by AT&T. I just dont get it though, its not an AT&T phone so how did they figure it out? I even posted/asked multiple forums (albeit all but xda, of course ) if buying the HD2 and unlocking it to AT&T if AT&T would be able to figure it out and incur data charges/plans. If you google that phrase Im sure it is my question your reading, lol. And essentially every answer was no. I dont know, maybe ill have to resort to this cooked ROM stuff? Not sure if that will help or not. Im gonna call the 611 number and try and explain that I popped my SIM card in someone elses phone for a day to test it out. Hopefully it will atleast buy me some time to figure out a way around it.
I have MoDaCo's NoData .cab program installed so I know the only data being sent was for MediaNet (for MMS).
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Hmm, I wonder if AT&T and T-Mobile are sharing IMEI numbers for certain devices.

Exactly
Ya, thats the only thing I can think of. I know I messed with alot of internet settings in order to get MediaNet working but at worst I would think AT&T would think "Hey he's just accidentally hitting browse or something"
I just dont see how its possible. Im trying to log in online to see if my phone shows up as a smartphone or still my ancient SE W510i.

hey i posted it on post 6

Current Phone
So I just checked online and it says my current phone is:
RIM
7290
but still shows a picture of my W510i.
So obviously the HD2 wouldnt be in their system and this is possibly their default unit when it doesnt recognize/have the phone in their system

eastside770
IN response to: eastside770 hey i posted it on post 6
I downloaded both of the files and installed them in that order. Then I couldnt find anything to do with them on my phone? I went to file explorer and all i can click on is a voicemail icon and an MMS icon that does nothing. Does this require a ROM mod or anything? I apologize if its obvious. Like i said, this is my first smartphone But ya, I installed both of them on my storage card, good to go. Soft reset. Nothing new though: Where am I supposed to see these apps at or see the results/edit them?
Thanks,
Ryan
Also, is this in response to getting MediaNet set up or so AT&T doesnt know Im on a another phone (I dont know, maybe this messaging client hides stuff from AT&T somehow )

They sent you a lovely text about implementing a data plan on your phone because you're using MMS! MMS requires network data (not your wifi) so when someone sends you an MMS or you send them an MMS, it goes through the MMS proxy server that you set up...and VOILA...AT&T knows that you're transmitting data when you don't have a data plan.
So to recap in case you're still wondering why you're getting slap with a data plan:
SMS - no data plan required
MMS - data plan required
If you can't live with MMS, call them up and said it was a mistake and that now you're using an old phone (that's not a smartphone) and just ask them to put you on the regular medianet ($15) plan rather than the PDA/Smartphone ($30) plan that they're putting you on. You save $15 a month and get text as much MMS your heart desire.

I Understand
lude219 -
I understand that. Dont worry Ive asked this before. MMS is included with Unlimited SMS for my plan on AT&T, as is IM as long as it is one of the programs pre-installed on the phone, so it doesnt require a data plan. I have triple checked this. Trust me, ive been going on MMS with no charges on my W510i for the last 3 years, and just recently called about 2 weeks ago to confirm MMS doesnt charge in preparation for the move to HD2. Im going to call and ask. But thanks for the MediaNet tip, kind of like the Tzones hidden plan with Tmobile. Ill give it my best.
Thanks for trying tho lude219! All help is appreciated

New Vogue.. No Mods. Old Service.. No Data?

Hello all! Its 'That Guy' Again
I recently bought a new HTC Vogue because my old one had *crud*crap*Stuff* on the screen. I called into Sprint customer service as always when swapping.
Everything seems to be fine. The phone is working. Texting is a-ok.. Data is a no-go.
This new Vogue ahs not been *modded*Tweaked*Flashed* (yet)
However when I launch an app to activate the provisioning feature, nothing happens. It dials the usual #777 and proceeds with the 'provisioning data services" msg. But after that it just disappears.
I dont not get a reply back or anything. If I try to refresh the browser to loop through it once more it just does the same thing over and over. Provisioning-----Then nothing
After 2 hours with customer service at Sprint we have gone through just about everything we could think of.. Still nothing.. The phone is practically brand new! Is there something im missing here? Maybe a bug in a certain version of the stock rom?
My old vogue provisioned fine previously and after I flashed to Froyo it was pure bliss.. However this phone will not take the data onnection O-o
If there is anything I can do/attempt to do id be forever greatful! And ill gladly donate my old Vogue to anyone who can use the parts.. It looks like super glue or something in a 3cm patch on the touch screen.. It still recognizes touch on ALL parts of the matrix, it just doesnt look pretty. The shell is kinda scuffed but over the phone works perfect =) This was one phone I didnt want to (ORD) to death.. Thanks in advance to anyone who gives insight on the issue!

Are you running on the most recent Vogue stock rom? which is 6.1

Yes =) Im running the Stock 6.1 Pro from from the HTC website

hexalot said:
Yes =) Im running the Stock 6.1 Pro from from the HTC website
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I am not certain of what the Sprint rep asked you to do, but I have a feeling that your issue lies in the EPST programming. You are likely missing username and/or passwords under the Connections section in EPST. Give it a go and let me know what happens. If you need instructions, let me know as well...
I would be glad to take your old Vogue off your hands if you are serious about giving it away.

Sorry for the lateness! I did discover that she(the rep) had seriously messed up the epst settings in the phone, however after recovery still no data. Its almost as if the phone hates it lol. Eitherway in that case its not as useful as it could be. Ill really only bought the second one because it was new and i wanted the screen to be scratchless I dont mind sending you my old Vogue especially since youre already on the east coast lol ill log in again when i get back to the office and we can swap details.
Thanks again for you help!

hexalot said:
Sorry for the lateness! I did discover that she(the rep) had seriously messed up the epst settings in the phone, however after recovery still no data. Its almost as if the phone hates it lol. Eitherway in that case its not as useful as it could be. Ill really only bought the second one because it was new and i wanted the screen to be scratchless I dont mind sending you my old Vogue especially since youre already on the east coast lol ill log in again when i get back to the office and we can swap details.
Thanks again for you help!
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There really are 3 or four things on EPST that you need to modify to get the device working properly (in most cases anyways): MIN, MDN, Username, Password, and maybe a couple of others to get better performance out of your connection (cycle, priority, etc). If you flash to stock, why don't you try to do *228 to do automatic provisioning?
Let me know when you want me to give you the shipping details for your Vogue. Thanks.

Only thing that pops in to my mind is that maybe you bought the phone off of eBay? Was it a "Sprint" branded phone, or like an Alltel or something that you activated on Sprint? I would imagine flashing the Sprint ROM from the HTC website would handle everything, but just as a shot in the dark, you could try to install the Carrier CAB (http://winbreak.com/winmo/voguegoodies) for Sprint.
NuAngel

@egzthunder1 Go 'head and pm the info m8! Sorry for the delay again im just hardly at this location anymore.
@NuAngel I actually bought the phone new from some rich guy on craigslist. It was flawless and my vogue had the previously mentioned "crap" on the screen.
It is branded Sprint and they activated the phone just fine as far text and phone. They are saying the data is active however no matter what rom/radio i use it wont access the data network. With WinMo it always says provisioning data but it never happens.. the browser goes idle. if i try to access any data apps it tries to provision but never seems to finish the job.. Android rom same deal just no provision of course. And as you know the Stock Sprint rom has also been flashed with no success of accessing data. Everything else works fine and i have the same service with my current vogue which works perfectly everytime.
If the data issue cant be resolved it will always make an awesome test device.. However, while I cant dig up anyone else having the issue, someone is bound to..

hexalot said:
@egzthunder1 Go 'head and pm the info m8! Sorry for the delay again im just hardly at this location anymore.
@NuAngel I actually bought the phone new from some rich guy on craigslist. It was flawless and my vogue had the previously mentioned "crap" on the screen.
It is branded Sprint and they activated the phone just fine as far text and phone. They are saying the data is active however no matter what rom/radio i use it wont access the data network. With WinMo it always says provisioning data but it never happens.. the browser goes idle. if i try to access any data apps it tries to provision but never seems to finish the job.. Android rom same deal just no provision of course. And as you know the Stock Sprint rom has also been flashed with no success of accessing data. Everything else works fine and i have the same service with my current vogue which works perfectly everytime.
If the data issue cant be resolved it will always make an awesome test device.. However, while I cant dig up anyone else having the issue, someone is bound to..
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PM sent. Thanks a lot!
Whatever is causing this, after reading your explanation, now I am positive is in the EPST programming parameters. Android builds here have APNs for Sprint in there out of the box (no provisioning required). But to connect, it looks at the PST programming (just like WM does). I would try to speak with someone else at Sprint and see if they tell you something else. There aren't too many things that should be modified in there for the internet to work...

HTC EVO 4G works in China(Shanghai Guide + Help)

I posted a few weeks ago about if or not the EVO 4G would work in China since CDMA has migrated over to UIM cards since 2002 and as well all know the EVO does not have a UIM card.
First of all the company that will provide service is China Telecom, unfortunately they do not offer the service, they dont even acknowledge it even being possible and most workers that you talk to have no idea what your talking about.
I brought this phone back from the USA on August 2nd and started my quest to figure out how to activate it. I must say it took a long time to find someone who would even try to ask around to see if the phone could be activated, even being at the infamous black cellphone market in Shanghai(Near the Tian Mu Lu Train station). I was rejected many times even after they spent an hour or so asking around for me. I gave up that day but finally found someone on the internet selling the HTC EVO 4G with a valid Chinese ESN to link to a phone number. (Tian Mu Lu 188 Floor 6 #54)
Now the phone number you have to get yourself under contract from China Telecom, now for this you need a local ID or to be a landowner and avid Chinese speaker like me. This requires a 128K CDMA number 133/153/189 although China Telecom told me that only 189 exists at this time. The contracts are unbinding or atleast they where for me and I paid 139RMB for 2GB and 200 minutes.
You then take this number to them and they link it to your phone, through their internal China Telecom connection's.
This service all in all costs you about 2 hours of time on average and 400rmb.
Honestly since China Telecom doesnt provide this service or even say they can do it, I think it was a bargain and a miracle that you could backdoor this service.
Anyways if anyone has any problems or issues in Shanghai or in China I can help you just contact me through these forums, email([email protected]) or (+86)18964688482.
I also found people that do this service in Shenzhen but not sure where else.
MC

Next time I'm in China and want to illegally obtain phone service, I know who to go to...

i won't have a use for this anytime soon (unfortunately), but epic win sir. well done!

Well I have noticed some people posting on the web about this issue but figure this is the place to bring them as I have found so much help over the years in so many different forms.
Hope google search leads them here.
The funny thing is, its not illegal as it is done through China Telecom just not offered as a service on any of their websites or walk in phone/internet boutiques or offices. The words my new friend used where "They where not willing to offer the service to the public".
I encountered this same issue with the Chinese kind of VPN service called Guo Ji Jing Ping Wang, which is basically a rerouting of internet traffic through less congested nodes so that you dont have packet loss and have better bandwidth with your area of choice(for example 160-200 pings for the west coast US with 0 packetloss and 240-260 for East Coast also with 0 packetloss). This existed about 5-6 years ago but was not offered to the public till 2008 or so. If I had not walked in and talked to the manager of the office and forced them to offer me something so I could receive large emails properly or game or stream videos etc.
Guess its kinda like the Great Firewall of China which is basically wide but not high especially using modern technology or even not so modern technology like a ladder(lol), since you can easily navigate around it with a proxy or vpn and no one cares here.
Anyways if anyone needs help in China for anything I can help. (15 year veteran)

sweet. I actually do need to find local Shanghai police to report some international business fraud I embarassingly fell victim to.
The place is @ Rm. 156-1, NO.3035 Zhufeng road,Liantang town,Qingpu Zone Shanghai.
86-021-29424583
The guy's name is Zhang Tuan. It's a long story but it's a "Gold Supplier" on Alibaba and I obviously didn't get anything - I have had over 30 positive transactions with other vendors.
hmnsl8 at gmail

Zhang Tuan
I was also looking at this company and thinking of doing business with them until I found your posting and I did some research and they go under the company name Newtang (Shanghai) Trading Company. Have you ever received your shipment?

no, nothing yet.
I paid on July 30 and it's well Aug 19.
In fact, one of the products I was inquiring about is Korean made and the manufacturer told me it's not going to be on the market at earliest late Holiday season and this company is claiming to sell it already (and I fell for it). DOH!
I will def holler if I ever do get this. I have the crew digging around more though - here in the US and China.
SOMETHING apparently did ship but I know for a fact it has not left China according to the shoddy shipping method. I mean it could be a brick for all I know or just a shipping label. I do not put anything past the whole lot of em over there now. I just do not see any possible way China can be a true economic power with rampant knock offs and fraud.
(sorry for hijacking your thread btw)
I mean maybe in some ridiculous way they did send something but it's not the shipping method I agreed to nor paid for and I refuse to take a fall for this so I'm trying to be pro-active.
Now of course if I do get what I ordered and it really did just LAG I will eat my words give them nothing but praise and for being nothing more than lame in admin as far as shipping method. But for now with all the stuff I've read about them and other companies in general - i am more than skeptical

HTC EVO 4G in Guangzhou
Today I had my struggle in China/ Guangzhou to get my newly delivered Htc Evo 4g working. Initially I thought i could get my card from China mobile ported to a 3G number and use it, but in 4+ shops they didnt want to help me or were not able to. They didnt even bother to ask around or something. And its not the language, since my chinese is actually pretty much ok and they understood what i wanted.
Anyways. Many thanks to " Inti " for the tip trying it with China Telecom! The whole procedure took me only 20 minutes. I opened a new 3g card, put it in my phone and it work. Not even a need for them to enter a ESN / Muid or anything to their system. The best! It didnt cost me a penny or yuan!
The basic choices i had were between to schemes. One 49RMB per month and another one with 98RMB/month. Meaning 100/200 free minutes of talking and 250MB/500MB of traffic. The money can be charged by normal charging cards from the street, even be wired to their account or they can take it from yours. You can pay locally in the shop too of course.
If you would want to use your card outside China, which happens to me already when im going to HongKong you would have to put a deposit of 1400RMB one time. Now your 3G will work all over the world until these 1400RMB are used up.
To me its a pretty good deal and i hope it will help someone like i got help many times from this forum.

As a bit of a followup..
I got mine in Tianjin and paid rmb3500 for phone then it cost the 400 for them to register it to the network the number you brought to the phone..
I use a company account and so its not illegal to do..also I get access to my own account via the web and pay the bill..
if you do a search on Taobao you will find its the norm now.. plenty of people doing it..
瑞姆手机HTC EVO 4G(A9292)CDMA 可写号/完美插卡机 最新2.2系统
as to plans.. I am using the Rmb125 per month with 3gig then I pay another rmb100 for another 3 gig.. so basically until I settle down with my usage I beefed it up.. but it is still on approx$40 per month for a whole lot of usage..
I have used it in Shanghai, Tianjin, Shangdong, and last week up in Changchan with good coverage.. plugging it in to the laptop and using it for good fast internet..
So I hope this helps if someone is thinking of getting one..
I also picked up the extended battery and are so far happy with output on it..
its at 46% after 16 hours of being on.. and I have used it for about 4 hours of wireless tonight.. so got to be happy with that..
I'll post back on the brand of battery I ended buying out of Shenzhen..
its the YooBao..
search .taobao.com
YOOBAO羽博 多普达 HTC EVO 4G 原装 加厚电池 送后盖 3000毫安
Cover fits well.. and I got a cutout outta cover on it.. so all in all.. happy camper.. will revisit this thread in a few months and report back on batt.. but for these prices.. who cares.. if I get 12 months mileage out of it.. I will be happy..
a few good apps for I use and for those that are not chinese..
sms translate - this is very hopeful
hanping chinese pro using the CC-cedit
would love to get a copy of Pleco but as for now its only for the iphone, windows mobile and Palm

MMS in China
Dear good people.
Having my evo on china telecom now for a day and so happy. Here just a few hints that i could have used and also one problem still persists with my mobile.
Of the first sms's i sent out i had only a few going through and some ending up with error codes. After a while i found out that the numbers have to be without any non-numeric symbols. for example number with +8613xxxxxxxxx wont work because of the Plus-sign. It has to be 008613xxxxxxxx or without the country code 13xxxxxxxxx. Also numbers with the "-" inside wont work like xxxx-xxxx-xx-xx.
Then i recieved an MMS but couldnt download it. And I also cant send any. That is unfortunately not depending on the number scheme, I tried everything.
Anyone has the same problem out there in China? My phone is using the standard root spring rom 2.2 .
Would be cool if anyone with working MMS could type in ##3282# ,go to "view-mode" and post all the settings you got.
cheers in advance and help needed...

Even if you had the settings from sprint, you'd still need to adjust them to the carrier ib China to make MMS work over there...
Sent from the iPhone Assassin

mms in china with china telecom
That is why im asking if someone has MMS working in China with Evo and China Telecom? If so if that person could please post the settings.
The settings from Sprint I have myself which obviously dont work unfortunately.
It's not that im using MMS frequently but it kind of annoys me that it doesnt work up to now. All the rest is working fine with my evo and I love to use it.
The standard settings for GSM/CDMA from China telecom are the following, also confirmed by the hotline, but I actually think they didnt quiet get me when i told them i have a CDMA phone 'only'.
MMS Server URL: mmsc.vnet.mobi
HTTP Server : 10.0.0.200:80
I put in those things in through ##3282# and edit mode. Tried leaving the RTSP Server blank/on zero and other combinations. Couldnt get anything to work. Always get network failure or some other warnings for sending and downloading MMS.
My hope is that someone is out there with Evo + China Telecom + working MMS and if that someone could post the settings?
greetz

sunnysonic said:
That is why im asking if someone has MMS working in China with Evo and China Telecom? If so if that person could please post the settings.
The settings from Sprint I have myself which obviously dont work unfortunately.
It's not that im using MMS frequently but it kind of annoys me that it doesnt work up to now. All the rest is working fine with my evo and I love to use it.
The standard settings for GSM/CDMA from China telecom are the following, also confirmed by the hotline, but I actually think they didnt quiet get me when i told them i have a CDMA phone 'only'.
MMS Server URL: mmsc.vnet.mobi
HTTP Server : 10.0.0.200:80
I put in those things in through ##3282# and edit mode. Tried leaving the RTSP Server blank/on zero and other combinations. Couldnt get anything to work. Always get network failure or some other warnings for sending and downloading MMS.
My hope is that someone is out there with Evo + China Telecom + working MMS and if that someone could post the settings?
greetz
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Sunny,
Mine is set as follows..
MMSC -http://mmsc.vnet.mobi
MMS: proxy : 10.0.0.200
MMS port: 80
MMS protocol: wap 2.0
hope this helps..

Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate, but where can you set the mms protocol on your evo? I don't have anything like that. Are you using the standard sprint rom like me in version 2.2 ? The settings you posted I found on the net as well but somehow it seems more for gsm phones.
On my evo I have no chance to get to mms settings but typing in ##3282# and then to go to view/edit mode.

sunny,
I am not going to be much help.. as just tested it..
can send a pic via email.. but not via mms.. as it is failing..
as to the settings.. I can see them from within the htc message program..
just go into the settings and you will see them all.. in mine they are greyed out..
so... i dont know if you can change them anyway..
I dont use the phone for mms anyway.. so not too much of a worry for me..
good luck with it..

sunnysonic said:
Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate, but where can you set the mms protocol on your evo? I don't have anything like that. Are you using the standard sprint rom like me in version 2.2 ? The settings you posted I found on the net as well but somehow it seems more for gsm phones.
On my evo I have no chance to get to mms settings but typing in ##3282# and then to go to view/edit mode.
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Have you tried changing the app MMS.apk to the incredible one and adding an APN? You can set many things there.. Hope this helps. (Use VOICE DIALER and say "OPEN APNS" to open the APN list)

Evo in China
@ dgcruzing: Thanks for trying anyway!
@ m4f1050: Thanks as well. That seems to be a step in the right direction. At least i can get now to the APN settings on my evo.
For the moment Im trying different combinations of Mms.apk and APN settings. All dont work so far but will keep trying and keep everyone posted here.
cheers

Good luck and keep us updated!

Sunny
Yes..keep us posted as if you crack it I will try your system to try to get mine going..
Sent from my deb using XDA App

Re: update your Rom & force Close of com.google.process.gapps
"force Close of com.google.process.gapps"
Had same problems.. started last night when I tried to use my VPN on the phone to sign in to Market.. once signed in.. google accounts asked me to sign in again..(verify account) big mistake.. as it seems that it has registered me twice on the phone somehow..
anyway.. the FC on sync came thick and fast.. was out last night.. so couldn't actually take the time to check what was going on..
today did some research..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792691&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619453
so the question is.. if i do a hard reset.. will I lose the actually settings that make it hook in to the phone network?
and I suppose from this we get.. how do I pull all of these settings out of the phone to reuse them again after the reset?
Edit:
As a followup.. and to answer my own questions.. no loss of actual communication on a full install of a new Rom..
after searching the net for the last few days for a fix.. its seems to be a Android bug.. no amount of wipes and resets put me back on track..
So in the end I went for a fresh Rom...
Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo - [RLS 5 - 01/07/2011]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
also update the Kernel with..
netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal-signed
Happy to say.. all fixed and now looking good again..
main points out of this is..
1: as those of us in China that have brought a Evo and had it worked on here to hook in to the CDMA network.. and are rooted.. I can report.. you can upgrade your Rom..
2: upgrading the Rom will allow you to shift a lot of Programs off the Phone to SDcard.. with Apps2SD which most 2.2 Roms have as norm..
3: you get a new look and feel to the phone..
I did as the instructions said and installed the Rom and new Radio's and all working well..

The Samsung Epic 4G Flashing Guide (for alternative carriers)

The following is a guide I put together over the course of today about flashing the Samsung Epic 4G to both Cricket and Page Plus. This will work with phones that have bad ESN's (at least, Page Plus and Cricket) -- and with phones that are totally fine and saintly, but maybe you want to go to another carrier for a cheaper rate?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E4nNITQnzEoEkkVp4j7k_N_yghvNh_SozuKe3az_Nx4/edit?hl=en_US
In the future, as more information becomes available, I'd like to incorporate other carriers that people are flashing (Metro PCS, Boost), as I find out more. The idea is to build a one-source guide for everything you need from start to finish.
The guide takes you from the very beginning to the very end. PRL's, etc, are all inclusive. I've flashed my Epic to both Cricket and Page Plus successfully -- just like Page Plus's coverage/quality better (and cheaper... but hardly any data -- user Wifi). Even if you don't want to flash, it still has useful things like unlocking your phone for use on any carrier that will take it.
Any comments/suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Just as a note, I'm no longer involved in the Epic community. I migrated on to a newer device. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34802383&postcount=72 If you need any help, I will still be available through PM's to the best of my ability.

The HA/AAA shared secrets for Page Plus are not "vzw", trust me. I'm running with full 3G on Page Plus right now and after many late nights I realized the only way to get it was a temporary clone to a Verizon phone so that I could get the proper keys through OTA programming. Unfortunately posting a guide to that would probably get XDA on my/your ass. With the "vzw" password you will technically get 3G but it will be throttled to 1xRTT speed (about .1 Mbps). I don't know if the same is true for cricket or not...
Nevertheless I'm sure someone out there will very much appreciate the time and effort you put into this; props!

So using this guide i can unlock the epic meaning ill still be on sprint, but if i suddenly wanted metro i can just take it to the store and have em flash it?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App

I request a stickey

I haven't flashed to Metro, but if I can find someone that supports all the features I want, I may give it a shot and write a guide. Does Metro support bad ESN's? (Long story short, got scammed by a Samsung Epic on CraigsList, Sprint said ESN was clear, but is still linked to scammer's account, who refuses to remove, etc, and commit insurance fraud... Talked to insurance and he's in jail now, apparently, but phone will probably be forever blacklisted on Sprint).
Currently, I'm trying to find a provider who can give Google Voice support and Data... MMS I'm not so concerned about. Page Plus is my only "good" option now (a step above cricket, but limited data). Any thoughts? Metro PCS apparently doesn't support Houston, TX when I try to find a plan, either.
EDIT: I may try to give Cricket another go. I've been reading a little bit more and have learned a bit about making Cricket work. Would be nice to try the $45 plan on Cricket to save some $$$. I've talked with some people who claim MMS and Google Voice CAN happen, but it's a little more tricky. Will let you know as I figure it out (must wait a month to not lose $30 from PagePlus).

im confused i dont have these MDN and MIN and your guide says i should have gotten them when i got the phone? is this from sprint and am i supposed to call?
also i got the phone replaced by another epic today. the phone kept trying to auto activate. it still is trying to autoactivate. i swapped the epic out for a nexus the other day. what should i do. if you can pm me and talk over the phone that would be great. my mom is going to new york wednesday and i want to pageplus this phone before she leaves.

I've gotten a couple PMs regarding the HA/AAA keys so I'm going to say this. I would gladly provide them for you guys but that's just not how it works. The keys change every time I (re)activate. They are probably tied to the time and the MEID of the phone, possibly more than that. My keys wouldn't do any of you any good.
It sucks, but the only way that I know to get them is to use a Verizon phone.

duh ask from carrier. now i followed all the steps including the manual update because auto won't happen. afterwards i autoupdated but it aint working? or am i supposed to buy airtime now?

not getting any help. please someone
i completed all the instructions and i can't dial out. i have a triangle at the top. when i call pageplus they are asking for a esn. what the heck am i supposed to do

What happens when you try to dial out? Have you bought/activated your service yet?

yesh i just activated a service using crap motorola. the prl on the page gave me a triangle on the bar i switched it to an older modified one for sprint. when i dial out i get the message welcome to verizon wireless your mobile number is not active or ....
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Poryhack said:
What happens when you try to dial out? Have you bought/activated your service yet?
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i switched back to the prl on his thread. i wonder if he switched the prls from cricket to pageplus on accident? this sucks i been working all day got school soon and no help for my mom. ahh

So, the PRL isn't working for you, eh? The PRL for Page Plus is 51--- something -- Cricket is 42700.
Are you sure that your phone is unlocked? Are you sure you're reading from phone to get current settings before writing PRL, phone number, etc, back to the phone? (it should prompt you for your MSL -- which should now be 000000) Then make sure you fill out the data correctly. You should be able to get your MIN/MDN by asking for them from Page Plus. I openly told the rep on the phone I was trying to flash the phone myself and he gave me all of the information (and then a little bit more -- unfortunately, not the HA/AAA secret). I was actually originally using my Motorola Droid and asked them to try putting ONE OTHER phone on, to test it out (my Epic). Long story short, it did.
Page Plus uses Verizon's towers -- so it's OK if you're getting that. My phone apparently "roams" as well, but I have yet to have any issues. It's just what shows up.
I've heard that Cricket (prior carrier) can be configured to work 100% with the Samsung Epic for the $45 plan. When my month of minutes runs out, I'll try swapping back and seeing what all I can do... I learned a lot while working on this, so I think I have a little more expertise on this. Prior, I had never unlocked my device, so auto-activation never worked with Cricket! Eeek!
Anyway I will of course write something up about that.

terinfire said:
So, the PRL isn't working for you, eh? The PRL for Page Plus is 51--- something
yup its 51529... in short it was shiet
Are you sure that your phone is unlocked? yes
Are you sure you're reading from phone to get current settings before writing PRL, phone number, etc, back to the phone? yup(it should prompt you for your MSL -- which should now be 000000)
Then make sure you fill out the data correctly. You should be able to get your MIN/MDN by asking for them from Page Plus. I openly told the rep on the phone I was trying to flash the phone myself and he gave me all of the information (and then a little bit more -- unfortunately, not the HA/AAA secret). I was actually originally using my Motorola Droid and asked them to try putting ONE OTHER phone on, to test it out (my Epic). Long story short, it did.
Page Plus uses Verizon's towers -- so it's OK if you're getting that. My phone apparently "roams" as well, but I have yet to have any issues. It's just what shows up.
I've heard that Cricket (prior carrier) can be configured to work 100% with the Samsung Epic for the $45 plan. When my month of minutes runs out, I'll try swapping back and seeing what all I can do... I learned a lot while working on this, so I think I have a little more expertise on this. Prior, I had never unlocked my device, so auto-activation never worked with Cricket! Eeek!
Anyway I will of course write something up about that.
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cool. i will stick to sero truly duly unlim 4g wimax. anyways. roaming is normal? where did you get the prl? i am using an older prl i found online. i was getting the message you might be charged for roaming prior to each call.

I do not get that message for my PRL. If I remember correctly, PRL's are just how your phone knows which tower to connect to. I've heard they vary based on where you live. In any case, since PP offers nationwide coverage, I'm not thinking I'm roaming and no charges have shown on my phone yet.

terinfire said:
I do not get that message for my PRL. If I remember correctly, PRL's are just how your phone knows which tower to connect to. I've heard they vary based on where you live. In any case, since PP offers nationwide coverage, I'm not thinking I'm roaming and no charges have shown on my phone yet.
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yeah that's what i am guessing. i flashed different prl's and i still get the same message. can you please check to see if the prl wasn't switched or renamed incorrectly or better yet can you give me the source? prl's get updated and i have an older one. too bad my parents already left for new york i hope everything works out well for them

Poryhack said:
What happens when you try to dial out? Have you bought/activated your service yet?
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yeah its activated. i had your prl when i activated it and i was getting the roaming message per call. there was the roaming signal on the signal bar throughout. i switched the prl and it went away.
can you check the prl out and the source can you pm it?

Newbie question. I have an unactivated sprint epic. I can't seem to get QPST to recognize the phone. The phone shows up as a modem in the device manager but QPST appears to see something connected but doesn't see the phone as modem. I've rebooted and switched USB ports as well. Any ideas on what could be wrong?

Reboot
Keep. Trying its a pain

feihoon said:
Newbie question. I have an unactivated sprint epic. I can't seem to get QPST to recognize the phone. The phone shows up as a modem in the device manager but QPST appears to see something connected but doesn't see the phone as modem. I've rebooted and switched USB ports as well. Any ideas on what could be wrong?
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Do you have the drivers for the Samsung Epic 4G installed for sure? What OS? May want to potentially try running as an Administrator, just in case (I don't have this issue, but I know some folks at MS have told me their hardware-heavy programs don't work when they aren't in Admin mode).
Make sure to uncheck the box in QPST about diagnostic/etc ports. Just enable all the ports you can in QPST Configuration and you should hopefully see it.
Are you absolutely sure it shows up as a Samsung Modem?

terinfire said:
Do you have the drivers for the Samsung Epic 4G installed for sure? What OS? May want to potentially try running as an Administrator, just in case (I don't have this issue, but I know some folks at MS have told me their hardware-heavy programs don't work when they aren't in Admin mode).
Make sure to uncheck the box in QPST about diagnostic/etc ports. Just enable all the ports you can in QPST Configuration and you should hopefully see it.
Are you absolutely sure it shows up as a Samsung Modem?
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I am using XP. Under Device Manager -> Modems, it reads "Samsung Mobile Modem #2". I also installed the drivers from the Samsung support site. For ports, QPST reads "COM5-USB/QC Data Modem" in the "Add New Port" window with the box unchecked. In the "Ports" window it reads "No Phone" under the "Phone" column.
Thanks