http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/TMobile-Rolls-Out-New-Pricing-105147
As part of their "project dark" campaign aimed at improving their U.S. competitive fortunes, T-Mobile has unveiled a slew of new pricing plans. The plans, which don't seem remotely as fascinating as some leaks had suggested, are broken down into two-year contract "More Plus" plans, and contract-free "Even More Plus" plans. There's various pricing depending on minutes or services, but the key "Even More" plan offers unlimited talk, texts and web for $99.99, while biggest "Even More Plus" plan offers the same thing, without a contract, for $79.99. Why is the non-contract price cheaper? Because under "Even More Plus" plans, you pay less for service but you pay full purchase price for a handset.
I pay the same exact **** now...wtf. I was expecting this to be HUGE...its nothing.
I'm not sure,but something seems wrong with how everything is priced... Maybe they screwed up when putting them online?
Just called T-Mobile to try and get on the Even More Plus 750, but can't if still under contract.
Even More is cheaper on the site because it doesn't have data and voice. Also, data for the Even More Plus is only for the two lines that come with the plan. Added lines on the plan only gets the voice and text, not data.
No, it's cheaper because you pay full price for the phone.
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From my favorite supplier NewEgg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875998228&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNECELL101907-_-CellPhonesPlans-_-E0-_-75998228&CMP=EMC-IGNECELL101907&ATT=N82E16875998228
yeah sounds cool, BUT....
If you look around at other promos like this there is a VERY strict contract that you must follow or else you will get billed the entire price for the phone along with a penalty fee!
Usually has things like a minimum voice package, data package, etc. that cannot be changed during the 2 year contract. The upsell the more expensive voice plans in order to offset the price of the phone. Hell with rollover minutes you dont need a huge plan (in many cases)...
Just be careful....
Just got off chat with t-mo. Below is part of the transcript. Important lines are in bold.
kcaj32: I have one more question about that account
kcaj32: the new line I added is an HD2
tmo CS: I can see that you are typing. I just want to let you know I am still here.
kcaj32: a good friend of mine also has the HD2 and he told me that you guys have a new unlimited data plan for $20 a month for that phone instead of the $30 I had to sign up for. He told me that he already switched to the $20 unlimited data for smartphones plan. Can you add that to my new line instead of the $30 plan?
kcaj32: The line I'm talking about is 916-xxx-xxxx
tmo CS: I will check to see if that feature is available for your account. It may take me a few moments.
kcaj32: ok
tmo CS: That feature is available for that line. I have changed that over for you.
kcaj32: ok thats great. I just got an sms too saying that a web plan was changed.
kcaj32: So is this available for everyone? or just some selected people?
tmo CS: It is only available to long time loyal customers.
kcaj32: ok
Got the news from : http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-HD2/New-20-Preferred-Smartphone-Unlimited-Web-for-HD2/td-p/360447
I logged into my primary account (android line) and I have the @20 a month option there too.
I havea grandfathered Family plan:
700 min
Unlimited Nights & Weekend
MyFavs on all lines (works great with Google Voice)
and now $20 data on all lines
This is the same plan as the $34.99 plan minus the $14.99 unlimited message option so if you had text before switching and are still using text, expect a huge bill at the end of the month.
The $30 plan does not include messaging at all. the plan with unlimited messaging is $35 a month. I have an older plan on my android with unlimited web and 400 messages for $25. And the messaging works for me on my Google Voice account.
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This is the same plan as the $34.99 plan minus the $14.99 unlimited message option.
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Unlimited messaging? no no no....
This is the way the contract is structured for the 2yr
$30 data plan (mandatory)
$10 messaging (optional)
$59.99 for voice (cheapest one you can actually get)
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$30 data plan (mandatory)
$10 messaging (optional)
$59.99 for voice (cheapest one you can actually get)
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When I signed up for the new line I was offered
$35 for unlimited messaging and data
OR
$30 for unlimited data only
But I guess it you want unlimited messaging as well, you should be able to add it to the $20 account for another $10. That is still $5 less than new customers.
This would be good for me. Been with T-mo for ~7 years and I have the unlimited family loyalty plan (offered before the all-unlimited plans were available) with the $20 addition for unlimited texts. If I can cut my HD2 bill from $25 to $20, I'll take it.
Oh, and, has anybody noticed there's a $5 charge for some sort of device insurance? I've yet to call T-mo and ask about it, but I tried to remove it myself from my plan and I can't. Both of those would be $10 less a month, which, out of my $250~ a month bill, is kind of welcome.
jubeh said:
Oh, and, has anybody noticed there's a $5 charge for some sort of device insurance? I've yet to call T-mo and ask about it, but I tried to remove it myself from my plan and I can't. Both of those would be $10 less a month, which, out of my $250~ a month bill, is kind of welcome.
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Device insurance is just that. It insures you for any lost or broken device, but I think there is a deductible involved in getting a replacement.
The new insurance rate for HD2 is $7 a mo... if you have it for $5, I'd say keep it (only if you plan on using it in the future)
And $250 a month? how many lines is that? and is it unlimited talk on all lines?
If I'm reading this right, the $30.00 Data Plan includes Web access and personal e-Mail (POP3 or IMAP). The $20.00 Data Plan is only Web access, no personal e-Mail. Niether plan has anything to do with text messages (SMS) or picture messages (MMS). Those are under some other add on plan. I got grandfathered with unlimited text messages for families for $9.99 and can see no reason to change it.
I just tested the $20 plan with a POP3 account and it worked just fine. Its just a discounted plan they are offering to their old customers.
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I just tested the $20 plan with a POP3 account and it worked just fine. Its just a discounted plan they are offering to their old customers.
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Older customers being the key word here. I had an account with TMO for close to 5 years and now these bozos cannot even find it to allow me to SIM unlock my device...
I hate tmous more and even more every day...
I went to MyTmobile.com, signed in, clicked the manage my plan, shared services, Line specific services. The "preferred" web option was available on my primary smart phone line. I selected it and submitted, then got confirmation. I went back and repeated for my secondary smart phone line, then for my 1st family add-a-line dumb phone line. Total knocked off my bill... $25 a month (two smart phones @ $10 savings each, and one "phone first" @ $5 savings.)
Unlimited Text messaging is included in my family plan.
I hope any trade off for the "preferred" web plan is worth the money. Tmobile USA's normal "Unlimited" is 5Gb a month at full speed, then throttled down above that (no extra fees for being excessive users.) I hope preferred "unlimited" still is.
With the phone first plans, a semi-smart phone as an add-a-line with unlimited web comes out to just $10 extra a month ($5 for add-a-line, $5 for unlimited web). Tmobile considers two semi "internet capable" proprietary OS touchscreen phones as "phone first"... Samsung Highlight and Tmo Tap. Its a shame neither can be ROM flashed to a better OS.
The also have the Nokia Nuron with Symbian with a $10 data plan. Unfortunately the Nuron does not have Wifi. and has a very small screen. I looked at it in costco and it seemed pretty small although it was 3.2". Was looking for my Wife.
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I just tested the $20 plan with a POP3 account and it worked just fine. Its just a discounted plan they are offering to their old customers.
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Been with TMo for years (I think since they existed.....8-9 years), and I checked and I have that option as well. Currently I have the Unlimited Data + Texts for $35.
I'm thinking of switching to the $20 Preferred Data Plan and the $10 1000 texts for a total of $30 ($5 Savings).
Are we sure that there is no difference between the data plans?
"Preferred Smartphone Unlimited Web Only
Smartphone Unlimited Web Only"
"T-Mobile Smartphone Unlimited Web
For people who love having the Web and e-mail at their fingertips. Includes unlimited Web access and unlimited personal e-mail."
Always looking for some monthly savings
nothing beats the 5.99 unlimited Tzones..
Just got off the phone with a CC rep and as most here have stated it is the same as the $25 web plan just cheaper
And for the Nokia Nuron....it is one of a couple of phones that get the $10 plans for what ever reason.....maybe because the download speeds are super slow My GF had one and the speeds on it sucked and the text messaging was pretty buggy....she ended up returning it.
Thanks for the heads up. I can also confirm that the CC rep told me there are no differences in speeds.
Just switched to the $20 Preferred Unlimited Data and $5 for 300 Texts (is it me or was there a 500 texts for $5......). Saves $10 a month, hopefully I won't go over the 300 texts.....500 would be perfect.
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Device insurance is just that. It insures you for any lost or broken device, but I think there is a deductible involved in getting a replacement.
The new insurance rate for HD2 is $7 a mo... if you have it for $5, I'd say keep it (only if you plan on using it in the future)
And $250 a month? how many lines is that? and is it unlimited talk on all lines?
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4 lines. the family plan is 90,unlimited
talk only on 2 lines, each additional line is 40, 20 for unlimited text on all lines. 20 unlimited web on my line and 30 unlimited blackberry web on another. plus the 5 insurance. 245.
I'm thinking of switching to the even more plus, i lose subsidy for upgrades, but it's cheaper, 140 2 lined unlimited text and web and calls, plus 30 for two more lined unlimited calls and text. 200, i do mind losing the subsidies, so maybe I'll get new phones subsidized and then switch (you're still bound by the contract, but It's less month to month)
oh and i got offered the 20 plan online, turns out i had android web and it was incompatible, so i was forced to chose the cheaper plan, no complaints, i hope it fixes the slow connection i have though (100 kbps down on 3g)
Wonder if it is really for long term customers or Tmo is just hooking up us HD2 owners
Loyal Customers
I Called T-mobile CC last night and they switched it over for me no prob... Haven't noticed a difference in speed or anything like that
Planning to buy the MyTouch 4G off contract and use the Even More Plus plan.
Currently the Unlimited Text + Data + 500 Min = $59.99
But it looks like T-Mobile will be coming out with new tiered data plans on Nov 14th with no restrictions on smartphones and plans:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mobile-adding-data-plan-to-new-data-lineup/
Will I be able to switch to the new data plan (ie. $10-15 for 200MB) once the new plan comes out (so $39.99 for Text + 500 Min.. and +$10-15 for data)?
Or should I just wait until Nov 14th to buy the MyTouch 4G?
One last thing: Are there any 3rd party retailers that will sell the phone off contract? Seems like most places I checked (wirefly, costco, Target, etc) all require a 2yr contract.
Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!
Costco will more than likely do an Even More Plus plan in which you buy the phone outright and open up a new account. You get more minutes and/or a cheaper plan in return. You usually save around $20/mo. The EM+ plans are contract-free. Costco still requires that you open up a new account with new phone number, which you can always terminate anytime. I did that with my Vibrant.
Well since the Even More Plus plan is no contract, you can get the unlimited data plan now and switch to the cheaper data plan later. Also your numbers might be wrong since both add up to $60 a month, and it wouldn't make sense to get unlimited and tiered data plans for the same price...
@floepie: I actually stopped by Costco today. Was told they will only sell on contract. I've purchased phones from Costco before. If I was going the 2yr contract route I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again.
@ArcticWolf91: Yeah the ability to switch is what I wasn't sure about since I've never been with TMo and am new to these no-contract plans. But most likely that's what I'll do. And yeah I had the pricing wrong..and looking at it now I think it'll only save about $5/month between the tiered and unlimited so not really worth it.
Thanks for the help guys!
You won't be able to use a full android phone with the lessed data plan.
They have two classifications -
"Media oriented" android phones aka mytouch 4g - $30
Basic android phones LG Optimus/Huwai - $10
According to TmoNews, the data plan restrictions might change on Nov 14th:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/t-mob...w-data-lineup/
So you're saying even the T-Mo stores refuse to sell to you at full price? That's not cool. I would say go to BestBuy, but they usually inflate their off-contract price vs carrier MSRP so as to weed out non-contract sign-ups.
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Dude, i just went to Tmobile.com and you can buy it off contract for $449.99, plus sign up for the EM+ plan.
Why not do that?
Nov 14th 200mb data is 10, ultd is 30 for ANY phone... you CAN Chang to it whenever... its a promo so requires contract extension, but doesn't mess with equipment upg eligibility date... also tethering drops on the 14th for 14. 99
I'm confused to no end...
I got a message from t-mobile, saying that my flexpay with 500 minutes and 5GB data plan, for which I pay $60 in total, will expire (actual message below). I have an unlocked Nexus One (and a single line) that I don't want to change; I use like 80-100 minutes, 2-3 text messages, and about 5GB of data with it in a month...
Can someone help me?
I don't understand whether I can stay with Flexpay or whether it will actually expire for good (and take the $50 I have $50 my flexaccount too --they're used when you overuse minutes).
Customer reps on 611 refuse to send me any documentation, don't tell me whether my plan will actually get cancelled or not, and pretty much act like they don't know anything and are reading from a script written for existing flexpay customers. (I'll be going to a store, but I don't trust them either. Me being a foreigner doesn't help...)
I'm looking at the options they provide (their plans online), and if I keep my 5GB data plan, everything that they have is more expensive... As in: their $50 "postpaid" plan includes 100MB or so data before getting throttled...
Could anyone suggest what I should do to keep a plan that costs $60 or less without sacrificing my $50 on that stupid flexaccount[1]?
[1] The $50 is leftover from having a long-distance (as in cross-pacific) relationship... Don't do it
[Message from t-mobile:
Response requested: your Flexpay rate plan will expire. Call 611 to update your account & get 1200 bonus minutes. Call 611 for details.]
Help? Please?
Thanks
Same problem - Cancellation of T-mobile Flexpay plan
Even I got a call few days ago and recently got a SMS stating that Flexpay plan will expire. Not sure if I can still continue? I dont want to be bound by 24 month contract. Either I might switch to pay as you go plan or switch to another provider.
Let me know if there any updates or work around here!!
Thanks!
AFAIK all flexpay plans WILL expire and you have some options....
1) Enter into a contract and go with the VALUE plans (cheaper monthly charges, NO SUBSIDIZED DEVICES)
2) Enter into a contract and get a regular postpaid plan (higher monthly charges, DEVICES AT SUBSIDIZED PRICES)
3) Pay as you go prepaid plans including a monthly option (I think...kinda like flex-pay)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
I just got on a contract for a Value plan with two lines and it's quite possibly the most awesome thing ever.
I get:
1000 shared minutes
unlimited SMS
2GB of data per line
... for $95 + tax/fees/etc, per month. For two lines.
I had to buy the phones outright, sure, but the overall savings is significantly greater than had I gone on a "standard" contract with the device subsidy. Two lines on a standard contract, same 1000 shared minutes and SMS and data, would have cost $35 more per month (+ tax/fees/etc).
Before I was on an individual Even More Plus plan (which has been phased out, just like Flexpay) and paid $70 + tax every month, and my partner was on a Flexpay plan and paid $75 + tax every month. Of course, those plans had 5GB data, but we weren't actually using the 5GB--the 2GB option hadn't been created yet, and even when it was first formed, it wasn't any cheaper.
Now, seriously, we're getting cell service almost as cheap as a regional carrier with better devices and better service.
Good News - ATT is offering a new mobile data share plan w/unlimited Talk & Text. More data for less, new data share plan included 10GB of data
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html?gnLinkId=t2015#fbid=QH4FNKQoqUv
Just signed up for the 10gb plan. Was on 6gb now I get an additional 4gb for only 10.00 Att is headed in the right direction. Maybe unlimited like t-crap mobile one day ?
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Just signed up for the 10gb plan. Was on 6gb now I get an additional 4gb for only 10.00 Att is headed in the right direction. Maybe unlimited like t-crap mobile one day ?
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I was on the 6gb before also, now i got 10gb i am a happy att customer now...TMobile is keeping all the other carriers on their toes...I love it. Plus i get 22% off my bill through my employer att discount #winning
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I was on the 6gb before also, now i got 10gb i am a happy att customer now...TMobile is keeping all the other carriers on their toes...I love it
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I agree. Things are getting better now. Hopefully it will even get better in the future.
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iamolu said:
Good News - ATT is offering a new mobile data share plan w/unlimited Talk & Text. More data for less, new data share plan included 10GB of data
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/data-plans.html?gnLinkId=t2015#fbid=QH4FNKQoqUv
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This change cut $80 off of my bill overnight!! I was on the original 10gb share plan with 4 smartphones. Now my data plan has dropped $20 from $120 to $100 and I'm saving $15 on each device fee. :thumbup::thumbup::sly:
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I think I got duped. I called up and she claimed that I can convert my 4 contract phones over to this plan however that there is only the 40 dollar rate for each line, and I'll actually see 15 bucks per line on the bill. The change is effective on 2/4/2014 which is when my billing cycle changes... I guess I'll check back at the end of the month and have a long discussion with AT&T about it.
That is great news, any saving is good savings
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I think I got duped. I called up and she claimed that I can convert my 4 contract phones over to this plan however that there is only the 40 dollar rate for each line, and I'll actually see 15 bucks per line on the bill. The change is effective on 2/4/2014 which is when my billing cycle changes... I guess I'll check back at the end of the month and have a long discussion with AT&T about it.
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You can change it yourself. Just login to you att.com acct
what's the catch? there is always a catch, I don't trust att no more
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what's the catch? there is always a catch, I don't trust att no more
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It's pretty much a modification of the Family Share Value plan introduced not that long ago. The biggest pricing discrepancy between T-Mobile and AT&T was that AT&T charged the same monthly fee per device whether you bought it outright, got it with Next, or brought your own. With the introduction of the recent Family Share Value plan people who got their phones as described above were given a $15 a month discount on the monthly service fee per non-subsidized device. My two went from $40 to $25 per month. With the new plan announced today, if you're not using a subsidized phone, the $25 per month drops to $15. It starts at 10GB so it's really targeted at families/groups and large data users. My 6GB plan with two non-subsidized devices ($25 a month each) was $116. With the new 10GB plan it's $109 because while the data component went up a bit each device dropped $10 ( $15 a month).
So it's a great deal if you aren't using a subsidized device, have a lot of (non-subsidized) lines on your account, or are a big data user. It's pretty meaningless to those with subsidized phones. But it's meant to be a T-Mobile deterrant and you can't get subsidized phones from them directly anymore anyway. You can but only through resellers along with 2-year contracts and different rate plans that are pretty comparable to AT&T subsidized rates.
I was also on the 6GB plan (2 lines). Upgraded to this and now have 10GB for $15 less. Winning!
Can anyone who had a contract tell me exactly what is listed for the specific phone charge? I have attached how it shows up on mine and am a bit worried even though I am told that the 15 dollars will apply to each of my 4 lines
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Can anyone who had a contract tell me exactly what is listed for the specific phone charge? I have attached how it shows up on mine and am a bit worried even though I am told that the 15 dollars will apply to each of my 4 lines
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You're not on a Mobile Share plan and I can't tell if the devices on your account are subsidized or not. The per device monthly discount only applies to non-subsidized devices (finished 2-year contract, purchased outright, Next, or bring your own). To get any of the discounts we're talking about you'd need to move to a Mobile Share plan and if you have devices on your account that are subsidized the monthly charge you pay for them won't decrease. With the new 10GB plan non-subsidized devices drop from as high as $40 to $15 per month.
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You're not on a Mobile Share plan and I can't tell if the devices on your account are subsidized or not. The per device monthly discount only applies to non-subsidized devices (finished 2-year contract, purchased outright, Next, or bring your own). To get any of the discounts we're talking about you'd need to move to a Mobile Share plan and if you have devices on your account that are subsidized the monthly charge you pay for them won't decrease. With the new 10GB plan non-subsidized devices drop from as high as $40 to $15 per month.
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See that's the problem there. I was told by the REP that even though I am on contracts the 15 dollar will apply. Its like I am getting an exemption. I will call them back
Also "The most surprising part of today's announcement is that current customers with on-contract phones can switch to the new pricing structure. Starting tomorrow, you can simply call up AT&T and ask to switch to a Mobile Share Value plan with 10GB or more of data, and you'll drop from paying $40 per smartphone down to just $15" the following was reported via the verge at http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/1/5368768/att-discounts-large-mobile-share-value-plans paragraph 6.
She actually set the plan up to take effect on 2/4/2014 which coincides with the start of my billing cycle.
I will call them back and cancel the changes. I would be going from paying 199 minus discounts to 235 minus discounts and that makes no sense for me.
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See that's the problem there. I was told by the REP that even though I am on contracts the 15 dollar will apply. Its like I am getting an exemption. I will call them back
Also "The most surprising part of today's announcement is that current customers with on-contract phones can switch to the new pricing structure. Starting tomorrow, you can simply call up AT&T and ask to switch to a Mobile Share Value plan with 10GB or more of data, and you'll drop from paying $40 per smartphone down to just $15" the following was reported via the verge at http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/1/5368768/att-discounts-large-mobile-share-value-plans paragraph 6.
She actually set the plan up to take effect on 2/4/2014 which coincides with the start of my billing cycle.
I will call them back and cancel the changes. I would be going from paying 199 minus discounts to 235 minus discounts and that makes no sense for me.
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This is from the new program's conditions. Anyone with subsidized phones can't also be on a "no annual service contract" agreement. Installment agreement refers to Next. Who knows, maybe the CSR you talked to is giving you some additional discounts or exceptions. It's pretty much the Wild Wild West over at AT&T lately in their effort to keep customers from T-Mobile.
Pricing for Value plan w/ 10 GB data ($100/mo.) plus per smartphone pricing ($15/mo.) on no annual service contract or on an installment agmt.
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This is from the new program's conditions. Anyone with subsidized phones can't also be on a "no annual service contract" agreement. Installment agreement refers to Next. Who knows, maybe the CSR you talked to is giving you some additional discounts or exceptions. It's pretty much the Wild Wild West over at AT&T lately in their effort to keep customers from T-Mobile.
Pricing for Value plan w/ 10 GB data ($100/mo.) plus per smartphone pricing ($15/mo.) on no annual service contract or on an installment agmt.
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Anyway thanks for the information. I just got back off the phone with ATT rep along with a online chat and I was informed that I will get charged the 40 dollar a month for the 3 lines and will receive a 25 dollar credit for each line. OF course I would only see that credit on my Next Bill and following bills. I will have to hope the reps I spoke to are correct, if not I'll be calling them back when my next bill shows up.
Here's to crossing my fingers.
While this is great and all but I would rather keep unlimited data on 3 lines family plan with unlimited text messaging and 500 mins with roll over for $160 a month. Until they take away the unlimited that is. Hopefully not anytime soon.
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With the monthly device fee down to $15, Next finally makes sense. It's now cheaper (as long as you want/need 10GB of data) than buying the phone subsidized. And that's not even taking in to account the "new device after 12 months" benefit of Next. Here's how the numbers work out based on current AT&T prices.
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With the monthly device fee down to $15, Next finally makes sense. It's now cheaper (as long as you want/need 10GB of data) than buying the phone subsidized. And that's not even taking in to account the "new device after 12 months" benefit of Next. Here's how the numbers work out based on current AT&T prices.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm on the 10GB Mobile Share Plan and while all my devices are subsidized, the cost per smartphone is just $30.
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