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Couple questions for P3600 users, particularily if you upgraded from a HTC Prophet.
I currently have a Prophet, but there are a few things about it I am less than impressed about.
The main thing I'm disappointed with is the quality of the audio. Both from the earpiece and rear speaker. The volume is not really adequate and the sound quality is hollow and tinny.
Can anyone comment on the sound quality of the P3600? Is it much improved?
Randy Lahey said:
Couple questions for P3600 users, particularily if you upgraded from a HTC Prophet.
I currently have a Prophet, but there are a few things about it I am less than impressed about.
The main thing I'm disappointed with is the quality of the audio. Both from the earpiece and rear speaker. The volume is not really adequate and the sound quality is hollow and tinny.
Can anyone comment on the sound quality of the P3600? Is it much improved?
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I can tell you that the original HTC rom (no GPS) seemed to have fantastic sound quality - at least equal to my old Imate PDA2k which I thought had a very rich quality.
However, if you upgrade to one of the Dopod GPS enabled roms, as I did, expect the same old tinny sound. I was really psyched about the GPS, but the audio degradation that accompanies it is disappointing. I am holding out hope that the eventual release of a GPS enabled rom directly from HTC will combine the best of both worlds. It is a fantastic device, though!
Can anybody compare the music sound quality of the Xperia to an MP3-player like the iPod? How would you rate the sound quality?
I've listened to an Xperia in a store and the constant hissing was pretty noticable, worse than the iPod Touch I used to have. I couldn't really rate the sound quality itself, because the store wouldn't let me put in my SD card with my own music on it. The music that was on the Xperia (jazz music) sounded a little flat to me.
If you ditch the headphones that come with the xperia and get a decent say £30 pair of buds it sounds much better than the ipod
i have a x1 and an ipod touch
cant hear difference
only truely objective way to compare is
hook both up to a spectrum analyser and
play the same music and compare
i have xperia and ipod touch when i'm connect it to the speaker i think ipod has a little bit better sound quality
don't know for 100%
but i use now my xperia as mp3 and it works great sound is good but it hasn't have equlizer builtin thats the only thing i miss
commodoor said:
i have xperia and ipod touch when i'm connect it to the speaker i think ipod has a little bit better sound quality
don't know for 100%
but i use now my xperia as mp3 and it works great sound is good but it hasn't have equlizer builtin thats the only thing i miss[/QUOTE
I have noticed that my sony mp3 with digital equalizer built-in has the edge over my sony x1. Ipod generally doesnt not have this particular feature so you cant possibly tell much difference from the x1.
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I didn't test with any equipment, but I've worked in the music industry for over a decade listening to music for a living and also own both devices.
Compared to an ipod touch using the same pair of Shure se530s at equivalent volumes and testing at both halfway and at full, I'd personally give a slight edge to the ipod. You should listen to both side by side for yourself though. There really isn't a huge difference apart from the max volume (the ipod can go louder than an untweaked stock xperia. I haven't tried the registry sound fix on the xperia yet, to make it louder). I also haven't tried the stock headphones either to be honest.
The bass seems a bit richer (using headphones, not speakers) on the xperia, but the overall sound is crisper on the ipod with sharper mids and highs. Again this is just my opinion and the difference is slight, they both have great sound. Just see if you like the other features. The sound is above par and I'd be surprised if anyone passed up an xperia because of it's sound quality.
I didn't notice any extra "hissing" sound with the xperia compared to the ipod. Might have come from the track they were using or poor headphones? These were the exact same mp3s (tried a wide range) that I was listening to on both devices.
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I didn't notice any extra "hissing" sound with the xperia compared to the ipod. Might have come from the track they were using or poor headphones? These were the exact same mp3s (tried a wide range) that I was listening to on both devices.
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I noticed the hissing as soon as I plugged in my headphone in the Xperia, before any music was playing. It's not the biggest problem for me as both my iPod Touch and iPod Classic (sold both) had hissing as well. Maybe my headphone is too sensitive (although it's a cheap Creative EP 630).
But judging from everybody's comments the Xperia should shound pretty good. It's one of the reasons I want to buy a new phone: music playback and quality. I'm trying to decide between an iPhone and an Xperia (used). I know the iPhone is a great music player, but the Xperia has extra features the iPhone can only dream of at this point, so I'm leaning towards the Xperia, even if sound quality may be worse.
Oh, by the way, you can get the Touch HD equalizer if you install Touch Flow 3D on your Xperia. Does that make a positive difference in sound quality?
I have an ipod nano and x1. Ipod has a slightly better sound quality. I use a Bose in ear headphone which is 10 times better than the stock in ear headphone that comes with the x1.
If you got the audio booster prog from htc+advanced config prog, the sound can be tweaked nicely.
I've put the 3D sound level to 'High', the equalizer to 'ROCK' and I use the UE superfi 5 pro earphones. Now I got to say that this sounds really good. Much better compared to an ipod touch
ipod never reach sony level in music ^^
I haven't done any serious listening yet on my x1 however did notice the hissing when plugging in my Ultimate Ears 5's. It annoyed me and convinced I had a problem I sent the handset back to 02 for a new one. On the new one - I get the same hissing so I feel it is a feature of the x1 sadly. I get the same on my Creative Labs X-Fi however less pronounced. Probably won't notice the hiss though when I am on the bus with background noise but do notice it at home.
Indeed, the Xperia Hisses, ALOT.
However, I am spoiled since I am used to a Creative Zen Vision (non-M, VGA version) which is Dead silent with even the most sensitive headphones.
My Creative Aurvana in-ear (my favorite sub-$100 in-ears) on the Xperia is a big no-no since their sensitivity is 115dB/mW. The hissing is very bad. On my portable headphone, a Phillips SBC HN110 the hissing is totally non-existant with its low 102dB/mW sensitivity, and the sound quality is truely a joy.
By the way, the stock Sony in-ears aren't half bad, but they too are too sensitive for the Xperia IMO.
Wow, according to GSMArena's tests the Xperia sound quality is quite good:
Only since recently are Windows Mobile devices considered seroius music handsets. Before that their business orientation has served them as a pretty good excuse for the poor audio quality.
However, the latest HTC devices were a clear sign that this is about to change. Therefore we were quite eager to understand if the XPERIA is the next step forward on this way.
As it turned out the handset has the best frequency response we have ever seen on a mobile handset. In addition it also achieved superb noise level, dynamic range and stereo crosstalk readings. In fact its results on those are even better than the dedicated Apple iPod music player - how is that for a change?
Unfortunately a price had to be paid and that is the rather high total harmonic distortion and intermodulation distortion levels. Nonetheless it seems that there is not too much left before the WinMo devices start to directly compete music-oriented ones.
I have both Itouch and X1:
X1 sound much better cause of the software I installed. The ficking Wifi on itouch just die on me and it's 14 months old so out of warranty. Spend $400 for the ficking thing...Don't buy apple.. Piece of sh*%$#@...apple. The other 8GB itouch I bought for my nephew also broke after 16 months...
I've been looking through the forums in anticipation if getting an Atrix and have read the topics on the speaker quality. However, I didn't really read how the quality of sound is through headphones. I have a nice pair of headphones so I want it to sound good. So my questions are:
1. Does the Atrix have a Wolfson amplifier??
2. How does it compare to the Infuse or SGS2??
I can't answer your first question, but I have a pair of Dr. Dre Beats (yea i know i know, but they do sound pretty good) and I personally think the sound quality is better than the infuse. My cousin has an infuse and I played the same track on both phones with my headphones and I preferred the sound on the Atrix. Your best bet is to go to an AT&T store (or whoever your atrix provider might be) and bring your headphones and ask them to let you try out both and judge for yourself. Although music itself and even certain equalizer settings are subjective, I think you will get a pretty good idea on which one "sounds better".
Two thumbs up for sound quality.
I am probably one of the very few people here who replaced their SGS2 with Atrix 4G.
SGS2 sound quality is not bad, but its not great either. Specially if you are using it on EDGE network which does happen to me when I am not in 3G coverage area.
Anyway, coming to Atrix, its one of the best sounding handsets I have used after original Galaxy S. Output is clean, loud enough and free of distortions/clipping even at high volume on earphones and headphones.
To be honest, 8/10 people will not be able to decide which sounds better Atrix or SGS2 or infuse.
And with cheap headphones, its even harder to decide which one is better.
My opinions here are with Audio Technica ATH M50, Brainwavz M2 and Nuforce NE700.
My only problem is that it seems that the volume is overall pretty low (i.e. I find myself keeping the slider close-ish to the top). When I'm outside walking to and from class, the city sounds almost drown out my music even when I have it at max...I know it's not the headphones, because I use them on all of my music playing devices, and they are just fine elsewhere. The sound is good, but the max volume seems to be set low...Messing with the equalizer in my music player (PowerAmp) helps..
Yeah its a wolfson dac not amp which is what really matters. Overall the phone sounds very good especially considering its a freaking phone. Ive used Beyerdynamic dt 770 80ohm pros, etymotic mc5's, grado sr80i's, and most impressively my Magnepan MC-12 planar speakers with the phone. They all sounded just fine, not jaw dropping or anything but just fine and fairly balanced throughout. If you have good copies of your music and decent headphones the atrix will take care of you if your not too picky. Much more so if you have an external headphone amp. you'd be surprised how much something little like this
http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E5-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B001P9EQH8
can improve sound quality not to mention get you to the volume you want.
Also don't mess around with equalizers too much they have a tendency to distort music no matter what your sourcing it from.
happy listening \m/d>_<b\m/
Im wondering how is audio via bluetooth a2dp, my SGSII sounds very bad, crapy and maybe Atrix could be a better solution for me with this matter ?
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Im wondering how is audio via bluetooth a2dp, my SGSII sounds very bad, crapy and maybe Atrix could be a better solution for me with this matter ?
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The sound via a a2dp headset is fine, no where near as good as 3.5 jack but same can be said about the gs2. I will miss my Atrix as I loved the audio quility
Sound quality over bluetooth on Motorola S9-HD headset is great as far as I am concerned. No issues with volume either. I keep media volume maxed, and control headset volume from headset. It will go much louder than I use it at, and it drowns out any ambient sound easily.
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
I can't make comaparisons with other smartphones and in the month I have had the IDEOS X5 I find the sound quality pretty good through the headphones.
I've used different headphones that I have lying around. All were better than the headphones that came with the phone.
At home I use an old Koss full padded headphones that I normally use on the PC or when watching TV late at night. (It has a very long cable). I find the qality pretty good, warm bass without it being too punchy.
I also bought a set of cheap (AUD$3.50) stereo headphones from e-bay. The sound was crisp, perhaps a little too much treble but you can balance it out depending on the music app you use.
I recently bought a Sony Bluetooth stereo MW600 headset which work nicely with the IDEOS X5 using the stock music player. Sound is clear and well balanced.
Neither of these are very loud but I've had it turn it down a little depending on the outside noise level.
Having said all that there is a huge difference to sound quality depending on the type of bit rate used on the MP3's. The higher the bit rate the better the sound quality and volume...but I think that goes without saying but music listeners possibly don't allow for the quality of the re-encoding.
AND...the quality of audio is about 100 x better than through the speakers
The sound quality is bad. The bass is good but it also "spreads" out and muffles other sounds so it all sounds hazy. My PC/cowon I7 does not suffer from this.
The headphones I use daily are IE7's. Shure SE420 also sounded hazy with U8800. Tested with FLAC and MP3's with similar results on both.
Thanks for your answers.
Varatesh: Considering what high quality earphones you use, I guess your expectations might be somewhat higher than mine.
Sadly I don't know own anybody withe an U8800 so I can't test the audio quality and it's rarely tested in reviews, so no "objective" info there.
pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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I don't now if I help w/ my case:
I only use the U8800 heaphones/mic and I must not change because the pinout is different (begining by the point):
Sound.L/Sound.R/Mic/Ground.
The others like Samsung, LG, etc. the pinout is:
Sound.L/Sound.R/Ground/Mic.
If we chage it the sound is bad because it return by Mic, not by ground. And the Mic also work bad.
That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.
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That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.
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Helo
It's possible. For music only, no problem, I use one w/ 3 contacts.
W/ Mic I encountered only one same the U8800, is the ZTE Blade one.
Cumps.
Using ideos x5 + poweramp (it uses ffmpeg's codecs = better quality than the stock android codecs) + sony mw600 = eargasm.
Deep bass, rich high's and great fidelity, even on low bit rate HEAAC files. Although one thing to note, i had problems and dropouts using by bluetooth handset over a2dp with the stock froyo roms. That problem vanished as soon as i moved to the 2.3.5 roms floating around here (My personal favorite is MIUI and i'm waiting for an official cm7 nightly )
I'm not an audiophile or something - i wouldn't use my smartphone for music if i was one - but for the price tag and the hardware we get, music quality is superb, especially compared to the crappy sound output my previous htc wildfire had.
pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.
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Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.
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I agree with this. It's very apparent when listening to audiobooks, not a big problem with music though.
I can confirm the "current" noise too....
Hi, I wanted to open a new discussion related to loudness of the One and music quality overall.
So, HTC has two stereo big speakers on the front and they have some kind of amplifier.
HTC claims they are loud - 93dB. Are they? What are your experiences?
As of quality. HTC audio is in partership with "Beats Audio". It seems to improve quality of music.
Take a look at this video seems good.
And one more thing - speakers are on the front. Does it get on your nerves in everyday usage?
zdnet.com said:
"When I first heard HTC talk about the front-facing stereo speakers on the HTC One with the BoomSound branding, I thought it was just some kind of marketing gimmick. As you can clearly hear in the video below, with an HTC One and BoomSound, you can actually leave behind your portable speaker and enjoy quality audio without a headset.
My wife enjoys music and when she heard me rocking out down in the office she came to see what was going on. After seeing it was the HTC One, she told me I have to get her one on T-Mobile.
I had the volume up to the maximum and you can't even really tell there is any distortion in the audio quality. You will never miss another call or alarm if you crank the volume on the HTC One and may actually be blown out of your bed with the BoomSound. Keep in mind, you can individually control audio for ringtones, notifications, music, videos, and alarms, so make sure to do so before bed."
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Another from a DJ over here ...
and here's the original for comparison
Not too bad for a phone eh !!
depend on the recording device, there is some missing frequencies, but the HTC One does have very good clarity, i like it
The sound is immense, especially coming from a phone!