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Anybody else using Gmail and the build-in mail client? It works... ok. But because the mail client only has a 'send/receive' button (and not two separate buttons), trying to send an email results in receiving ALL email since the last pop3 check. Frustrating since gmail won't recognize accessing the web mail interface as a 'check'.
Anybody got some tips?
Hi,
i want to use it but where can i get it?
thanks in advance..
well just enable pop3 in the gmail settings, open your htc universal, go to messages > new account > fill in the settings (auto config) and you're set.
If you are talking about something like google notify, that I don't know - I don't think it exists.
Or you can use Gmail through Pocket Internet Explorer on the device, it works moderately well now. They detect that you have a small screen device and present a cut down version of the "full" interface.
ChristopherTD said:
Or you can use Gmail through Pocket Internet Explorer on the device, it works moderately well now. They detect that you have a small screen device and present a cut down version of the "full" interface.
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You're absolutely right, but what bothers me is that Opera 85 mobile could handle the 'proper' gmail. However it won't, because gmail detects the user agent string which can't be changed from Opera. Terribly frustrating, because it would work really nice alongside the 'fit to screen' opera feature.
I use the personalised homepage of Google (http://google.com/ig) and this will show me if I have any new Gmails along with several other RSS feeds and interesting snippets.
When I click the Gmail header I scroll down to the bottom of the page and there is a link to Basic HTML which makes life a whole lot easier.
The /ig page trick kinda works (but google once again pushes that ugly 'mobile' version rather than the 'normal' one. What would be perfect is a gmail notify -like client for PPC.
After jealously observing the Facebook app on my wife's Blackberry Pearl, I am shocked that neither ShoZu, Snap2Face/Skybook nor FriendMobilizer have come close to matching the simple elegance of Facebook for Blackberry. Each of the aforementioned Windows Mobile apps, I believe, will fail to become very popular among users because they are trying to do fundamentally different things than the official Blackberry and iPhone apps.
So I'm going to attempt to specify the basic features that would make for the best "Facebook for Windows Mobile" application. The developer who carries these out will, I predict, quickly dominate the rest.
What we already have
A couple of mobile-friendly versions of the FB user interface. Whether you use http://m.facebook.com in PIE, or http://iphone.facebook.com in Opera Mobile/IrisBrowser, or indeed desktop-level Facebook in Skyfire/Opera Mini/etc., we already have great ways to passively view most of Facebook. FB apps for WM appear to have devoted most efforts to remaking their own, sometimes uglier interfaces for viewing the same information. While this introduces the possibility of offline synchronization, this is nowhere near a key functional benefit offered on Blackberry and iPhone. The trend is toward more users having data plans and ubiquitous data connections.
A way to access Facebook Chat. 3rd-party multiprotocol chat applications offer this for Windows Mobile already.
Several ways to update your status. You can do this through Facebook Mobile, SMS, etc.
A crappy way to upload mobile photos. You can send an MMS to [email protected] - not ideal and lacks the ability to place photos in specific albums, tag, etc. But it is a start.
A crappy way to receive notifications. The FB notifications feed is actually available via RSS, and several free RSS clients exist for Windows Mobile.
A really crappy way to new FB message alerts and everything else. Suppose you registered a new Gmail account devoted solely to receiving Facebook notification emails. You could register that address with your Facebook settings, set it as the address to receive email notifications and then turn on notifications for everything that happens on Facebook. After setting up this email account on your Windows Mobile device, you could receive regular alerts from Facebook on your mobile device. (Heck, with System SEVEN beta or some other service that utilizes the IMAP IDLE feature, you could essentially have "push" FB alerts).
What we don't have (but Blackberry does)
Based on the features listed at http://na.blackberry.com/eng/devices/features/social/facebook.jsp , you can see that the man feature that WM users don't have is "push"-style homescreen notifications. On the Blackberry homescreen, the number of new Facebook notifications and messages sits beside a little FB icon. It is updated immediately as new messages and notifications are received.
Thus I would propose the following specifications for a WM Facebook app (or suite of mini-apps). The Facebook Developers API should be used, not some unreliable html-parsing library.
1. New/unread FB messages and notifications on a "push" or rapid-refresh basis. This either means (a) a Today screen plugin that lists the unread message counts and points Pocket IE to the appropriate http://m.facebook.com link when tapped, (b) WM popup notifications of the same, or (c) a MAPI interface library that allows the FB Inbox and/or FB Notifications feed to be added as regular mail accounts in Pocket Outlook - letting WM take care of popups if the user so desires.
2. A photo upload and tagging tool. The user must be able to select a photo (or take one) and then choose to either add it to any existing album or create a new one, followed by the option to tag that photo.
3. Dedicated Facebook chat. If it is easy, of course.
Everything else on Facebook - contacts search, Phonebook, etc - is just as easy to access on the existing Facebook Mobile site. My instinct is that developers inevitably waste our memory with bloated software when they make "native" interfaces that just rehash the content at http://m.facebook.com/
Or am I missing something? Maybe others have thoughts. I'm no developer and I don't mean to sound demanding - I'm just trying to give developers some ideas here.
would be fine if someone would fix the iphone.facebook.com java problems
libpurple already incorporates facebook im but i dont think there is a client for windows mobile that uses it. As for uploading, you can upload pictures but not videos directly from a touch series phone (videos are uploaded to youtube). If the protection can be stripped from an ipa and the can be decrypted then I dont understand why we cant port the facebook.app. I have an iPhone 3G and an iPod Touch, both jailbroken. I'll SSH into them and grab the files for the facebook app but the rest needs to be done by someone else. Just give me sometime to find them.
1. New/unread FB messages and notifications on a "push" or rapid-refresh basis. This either means (a) a Today screen plugin that lists the unread message counts and points Pocket IE to the appropriate http://m.facebook.com link when tapped, (b) WM popup notifications of the same, or (c) a MAPI interface library that allows the FB Inbox and/or FB Notifications feed to be added as regular mail accounts in Pocket Outlook - letting WM take care of popups if the user so desires.
2. A photo upload and tagging tool. The user must be able to select a photo (or take one) and then choose to either add it to any existing album or create a new one, followed by the option to tag that photo.
3. Dedicated Facebook chat. If it is easy, of course.
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wFacebook will have ALL of these things that you mentioned. A little patience is all that is needed. I started developing this only 2 weeks ago Thanks for the breakdown though, it gives me something to work towards. I hope to have facebook chat up and running in the next release. Push style notifications will come as soon as I can figure out an "always signed on" connection to facebook. Photos and tagging are very easy to do, I just haven't gotten around to implementing it.
What you have to realize is that the blackberry apps and iPhone apps are both designed by facebook. They access facebook's data directly. Facebook does not allow this in its API so we have to find workarounds. Blackberry has nothing to do with it's facebook application (as far as I know). Facebook developed and maintains it.
Also, thanks for the tip on the rss feed. I did not know this and this may help with notifications!
Give computerjunkie some time....
And all the requested features will be hopefully implemented.
Btw since you have a BB and have positive feelings regarding it's user experience and user interface it would be great if you could dedicate some time to write down some detailed specs !
Ciao
Marco
The BB app doesn't really have a "push" notification system. All apps that use notifications, like Facebook and MySpace, are simple emails. When the same email account is registered under the BB profile, and Facebook profile, it recognizes the FB notification email as the app specific notification, and gives the notification instead of the email.
But, on the app, I really don't like it much, so I don't suggest it as your "template". All it really does is give you the notifications, allow you to update your status and view your friends list. You can't view profiles or photos through the app, it opens the browser, and you have to login! Further more, the news feed only shows the notifications, like birthdays and comments.
Try something like the BB MySpace app, I love that one! You can flow through pictures and view everything in the app.
wFacebook will be like the BB myspace app. You won't have to log in to the website to see info. It will be fetched from the application itself. Also, it will have push style notifications (maybe not ALL notifications but most: Wall, Inbox, photo comment, etc.). I am looking into an always on (or as close to always on) so when the notification occurs, wFacebook automatically fetches the info THEN notifies the user so all the user has to do is start up wFacebook and check the item. Also with the semi-always on connection, wFacebook users won't have to keep logging in to facebook which right now is taking about 1.5 minutes with wFacebook because of data speeds on mobile machines.
Problem with the xda app is it requires .NET 3.5
iphone.facebok.com in Skyfire is the best solution for me.
though I think a windows mobile facebook app is much needed I have to agree the very Bloated net cf is def not the way to go. I do appreciate all you are doing as this app has potential to be very useful . thanks again for all your hard work. pleasyo code in "C"
From the android developers blog.
Download SDK 2.0.
Official Youtube video.
New User Features
Contacts and accounts
+ Multiple accounts can be added to a device for email and contact synchronization, including Exchange accounts. (Handset manufacturers can choose whether to include Exchange support in their devices.)
+ Developers can create sync adapters that provide synchronization with additional data sources.
+ Quick Contact for Android provides instant access to a contact's information and communication modes. For example, a user can tap a contact photo and select to call, SMS, or email the person. Other applications such as Email, Messaging, and Calendar can also reveal the Quick Contact widget when you touch a contact photo or status icon.
Email
+ Exchange support.
+ Combined inbox to browse email from multiple accounts in one page.
Messaging
+ Search functionality for all saved SMS and MMS messages.
+ Auto delete the oldest messages in a conversation when a defined limit is reached.
Camera
+ Built-in flash support
+ Digital zoom
+ Scene mode
+ White balance
+ Color effect
+ Macro focus
Android virtual keyboard
+ An improved keyboard layout to makes it easier to hit the correct characters and improve typing speed.
+ The framework's multi-touch support ensures that key presses aren't missed while typing rapidly with two fingers.
+ A smarter dictionary learns from word usage and automatically includes contact names as suggestions.
Browser
+ Refreshed UI with actionable browser URL bar enables users to directly tap the address bar for instant searches and navigation.
+ Bookmarks with web page thumbnails.
+ Support for double-tap zoom.
+ Support for HTML5:
Database API support, for client-side databases using SQL.
Application cache support, for offline applications.
Geolocation API support, to provide location information about the device.
<video> tag support in fullscreen mode.
Calendar
+ Agenda view provides infinite scrolling.
+ Events indicate the attending status for each invitee.
+ Invite new guests to events.
New Platform Technologies
Media Framework
+ Revamped graphics architecture for improved performance that enables better hardware acceleration.
Bluetooth
+ Bluetooth 2.1
+ New BT profiles: Object Push Profile (OPP) and Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
New Framework APIs
Android 2.0 includes several new developer APIs. For an overview of new APIs, see the Android 2.0 version notes.
WEEEEEE i totally cannot wait
Hi!
Sorry for the noob question,but how will we be able to update our phones (hero obviously) with the new android OS? Will HTC probably make a RUU or something alike?
THX for answers
Hi!
i have question about the bluetooth thing.
Wikipedia says that opp is a bluetooth profile for sending vcards and appointments. Is it possible to send/recieve other files with that? Im asking that because opp is using obex, which imho does that.
greetz
dickeplatte said:
Hi!
i have question about the bluetooth thing.
Wikipedia says that opp is a bluetooth profile for sending vcards and appointments. Is it possible to send/recieve other files with that? Im asking that because opp is using obex, which imho does that.
greetz
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That is the burning question, which we all want to know! I would assume since as you say the Object Push Profile is based on OBEX, and it the Bluetooth Stack supports 2.1, it should be possible, but I am no expert on the matter.
Can ask in the developer forum.. encouraging though!
bejgli said:
Hi!
Sorry for the noob question,but how will we be able to update our phones (hero obviously) with the new android OS? Will HTC probably make a RUU or something alike?
THX for answers
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umm..... the released thing isnt the os. its just the sdk to update current softwares for eclaire. its mainly for software developers.
for os upgradation we need the source code and we just got source code of 1.5 a week ago and at this rate 2.0 will be releasing next year April or later
PHEW ultra nice!! hope we get this as fast as possible (i can abandon 1.6) ;-)
mostly this point: "Developers can create sync adapters that provide synchronization with additional data sources." sounds very nice to me.. cuz here in germany people do morely use networks like studivz rather than facebook.. so one can/will (!) implement such a contact integration for our networks here
if a test rom for dream can be made be from sdk then rom for hero can be made from sdk. isnt it guys?
calling our hero devs. guys, dream devs r running eclair in their phones and we r craving for it. plz do sumthing. plz port it for the sake of our beloved HERO.
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if a test rom for dream can be made be from sdk then rom for hero can be made from sdk. isnt it guys?
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think so, cuz we got the kernel source code
Warning Will Robinson!!! I am not a developer, nor am I all that smart, so please bear with me on this.
I am considering getting the Vibrant through TMO, but I need to confirm a couple things and I bet folks here can help me out with answers simple enough for a 3rd grader to understand.
First - What is "rooting"? What does it mean, what do you get out of it (especially for a non-technical guy like me) and how complicated is it?
Second - The Vibrant is capable of tethering, but only through USB, correct? Is there some update that is on the horizon that allows wireless tethering? Or is there some app already out there that enables that function?
Third - Can the Vibrant sync with Mac OS X/Microsoft Entourage? Or is there an app in development to do that?
Any comments of a simple nature are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Missing Sync ans SyncMate
I am currently using Missing Sync from Mark/Space and it seems to work pretty well. The calendar and Notes Sync are tied to their own Fliq software on the device. I don't use these as our Exchange server is all I use to keep sync'd. But it does work well for iTunes and folder sync. The sync with Missing Sync is directly between the Mac and the Android device. Think iPod.
Some additional features of Missing Sync are a Ringtone creator and bluetooth/wireless sync.
SyncMate support for Android was also recently announced. Their solution is to sync back to the Google cloud and then have your Android device sync from the cloud. The Expert version will allow syncing of iTunes and folders and such.
ok so the answer to my third question is yes, with Missing Sync, correct? I don't care about syncing music, videos, etc - just contacts, email and calendar.
The other thing you mentioned through Google is not desirable for me.
Thanks.
Rooting gives you administrator access on your phone. This allows you to so all kind of useful stuff and allows you to use many programs that require administrator access. If you are an advanced, power user though, you probably don't need it... Unless you wasn't wireless tethering.
If the vibrant can tether via usb out of the box, that is news to me. Though I guess it might be possible, since my vibrant does show up as a modem on my mac.
Sent from my Vibrant using the XDA app.
Typos, incorrect words, gibberish, and other nonsense brought to you courtesy of Swype.
I was new to rooting when I got this phone, and it went very smoothly for me following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723479
With root you can, among other things, remove unneeded apps like telenav that were installed by Samsung/Tmobile; you can wireless tether (haven't tried it, not sure how well it works); and you can install custom ROMs like Cyanogen when they are released for this phone.
FYI, on a Mac the phone won't show up in Finder unless you enable USB debugging (Menu>Settings>Applications>Development>check Enable USB debugging).
Also, Android 2.2 allows wireless tethering, and is supposed to be out for the Vibrant this fall as a wireless upgrade.
@ texaslonghorn1 -
Please, note, SyncMate allows you syncing Contacts and Calendar between Mac and Android for absolutely free - uou are welcome to try it!
You can find detailed How To about Mac and Android sync here http://mac.eltima.com/sync_mac_android.html
You can configure your address book on the Mac to sync w/ google. Now you have best of both worlds cloud & desktop back-up. As far as media I'm thinking doubletwist, I haven't used it yet but looks really good because it loads iphoto and entire itunes library (not just playlists), and the UI is not bad either.
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Regarding Mac/Google address book syncing, I tried this via preferences and there was no option to sync to Google - only yahoo and one other, mobileme I think, maybe it was something else. Google definitely was not there for me though.
A quick Google search on the issue revealed some permissions hack's which I applied to no avail. Running leopard 10.5.something (whatever the latest is) on a G5 ppc.
As for me, I was resistant to the Google cloud as well when I bought my vibrant, but it seemed the best option for syncing without buying additional software.
I kicked my address book out via a csv file (using address book to csv exporter) and imported to Gmail, then synced ical to my Google calendar via ical prefs and that was it.
I'm pretty happy with this setup and am enjoying using the Google services. The calendar sync is working well between ical, my phone, and my google calendar, now if I can just find a way to keep an ongoing address book sync I will be all set and a very happy camper.
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I use IM heavily for work - corporate Jabber server, GTalk, AIM, Windows Live are all in play during my day.
One of the big problems I have with a tablet is that when I want to get up and leave my desktop and bring my chat with me, different services use different criteria for where to send new messages.
- Some send to the last client that sent a message out.
- Some send to the client with the highest priority ID (set in expert settings in most clients)
- Some send to the last client to log in.
In short, it's a mess, and I always wind up missing messages because of it. Logging out on the PC and in on the tablet manually is a bummer too when you want to just grab it and go.
I just downloaded the new Trillian release, which works on Honeycomb. I happen to be using Trillian on my Win7 machine as well. Check out the release notes:
http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/?p=1949
It works as advertised. Chat history (both directions) are mirrored on all connected clients, and I can seamlessly chat between any of them. I can even load it up on my iPhone if I'm leaving the house.
History is stored serverside as well, so you have chat logs on all clients.
I'm NOT affiliated with Cerulean. I didn't even like Trillian that much in general until now. I just think it's probably the best chat client for Honeycomb or any mobile device just for this feature that works across ALL IM networks. Not just Google Talk.
Yep. I have been using trillian for 5 years. Love it.
I stopped using Trillian when they switched to a central server configuration and had my information/chats on their servers. Wish they offered a standalone IM app for Android, they did make a very nice chat program prior to that switch.
me tooo been using it for years