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Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...
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Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...
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Unless they've done something drastic, unlock and you're ready to rock'n'roll.
Wasn't the Touch Dual in America supposed to be carrier free?
If so, both T-mobile and AT&T should work.
It is going to be sold unlocked... But the T-Mo US uses different bands for their 3G then the ATT. Does anyone know if the US Touch Dual will work with T-Mo 3G data network?
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It is going to be sold unlocked... But the T-Mo US uses different bands for their 3G then the ATT. Does anyone know if the US Touch Dual will work with T-Mo 3G data network?
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It won't work with t-mo 3G. It is quad band gsm tho and unlocked.
Wrong pic on sale site?
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Just saw the Touch Dual available for preorder on the Best Buy website. Would it work on just rolled out 3G T-Mobile network or ATT is the only option? I live in New York area...
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Odd that the picture shown has the 16-key keyboard, not the 20-key. Everything I've read says only the 20-key is coming to America - isn't that right?
Actually, some Best Buy pictures show 16 key and some show 20 key.
I wrote HTC to ask and they said there is no Touch Dual for the USA (helpful).
just got back from local best buy and picked it up and it is the qwerty 20 key
I called a few local Best Buys here in Los Angeles, but they all say its not in?
I have to say I dont know if I belive them or not... Anyone in SoCal had any luck?
Just picked up the touch dual from my BB. However, will this work with a mac?
this is so annoying. Once again, Chicago metro area - none on hand, non in distribution. What's the point of these announcements anyhow if they can't be fulfilled - may as well be "Diamond available at Best Buy now" for the effectiveness it has.
Riddle me this - is the old touch that has been available gray market up til now the same unit? If it is - and since I'll be ripping my rom apart anyhow -- I may go back to my fave gray marketers.
Hyper: not without jumping through hoops. As a mac guy by choice, and PC guy by work - it's too much grief. Look for third party software if it's your only choice, or install activesync in your fave windows emulator.
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Hyper: not without jumping through hoops. As a mac guy by choice, and PC guy by work - it's too much grief. Look for third party software if it's your only choice, or install activesync in your fave windows emulator.
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Didnt want to partition my mac so its running only mac OS. I have a PC so I guess I can use that too, didnt really want to though.
FWIW- Im seeing a "3G" symbol in the corner YAYYYYY.
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Riddle me this - is the old touch that has been available gray market up til now the same unit? If it is - and since I'll be ripping my rom apart anyhow -- I may go back to my fave gray marketers.
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Nope, it's not the same. The on that's been available for a while is tri-band, this one is quad-band with US 3G. Picked one up in local BB today, seems to be working just great and 3G is very snappy. Still no WiFi or GPS though:-(
Dump Rom
Cold one of you guys dump a ROm from your US version? Do they come with wm6 or wm6.1
Thanks
6.1 just dont know if this is a keeper, prob not
Anyone know how to get a gmail account working on a windows device? (So far setting up a windows device is a PITA, debating why Im switching from my Curve right now).
Hyper - start a new thread please. Let's keep this a BB thread.
Please post where you got yours everyone.
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Hyper - start a new thread please. Let's keep this a BB thread.
Please post where you got yours everyone.
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Sorry. I got everything working anyway. Only thing I dont like about the phone so far is that it washes out in the sun. Impossible to see the screen today.
Is anyone using it on US T-Mo?
I am also interested in a ROM dump of the US Touch Dual
Best Buy website for me says Pre order only. I didnt realized it released yet.
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Cold one of you guys dump a ROm from your US version? Do they come with wm6 or wm6.1
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I dont know if anybody is already porting this rom to work with other Touch Dual devices but I am interested in a clean Rom dump too. If not lets start a thread to porting this Rom to other Dual devices or atleast why it will or wont work.
Thanks-
Jcostanza4
Hi everyone. I am sure there are serveral threads already on here in which people have asked about the new HD2 and AT&T's 3G signal. I searched around and found tidbits of information here and there so I thought I'd start a new thread and ask some questions that some of us AT&T users here in the states have.
I purchased a Touch HD (T8285) from an Australian seller not too long ago that was branded with the Telstra logo on it and it worked with my AT&T 3G signal here in the US near the Washington DC area.
My question to everyone is, is there a Telstra version of the HD2 currently available that will also work with the AT&T 3G signal? I see that there are a bunch of vendors in the UK that are selling this phone and I believe they won't work with our 3G signal here but is there an Australian one that will?
If so, where can someone buy or preorder it from? Any help is VERY MUCH appreciated.
That's the answers we're waiting for (the other being that whether it'll come to AT&T at all).
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That's the answers we're waiting for (the other being that whether it'll come to AT&T at all).
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Well any news is good news. Unfortunately we don't have any at this time. I read somewhere that Telstra is currently testing this phone on their Next G network and is hoping to have it Q1 of 2010 which is the same timeframe as when T-Mobile is going to get it. I can't wait that long.
I Live in the US - Could not Wait Bought HD2 Euro Version - WOW
Couldn't wait until Q1-Q4 of 2010... The phone is unbelievably fast. So fast that being on a Slow EDGE connection speed and toggling to WiFi is almost not noticeable? Windows 6.5 runs really nice, there is absolutely no lag(AT ALL). A Running talley of open applications without lag is 40 apps. Big hitters like you-Tub, GoogleMaps, Acrobat, Opera, MorphGear, TCMP player, IE, TombRaider 3d. Digital Compass, Mobile Market Place, Remote Desktop, Bing... they just all run and the phone is super snappy? I have not had the phone crash or had to reset because of the Windows Mobile 6.5 OS freezing up, WHICH IS A WINMO FIRST...
Coming from the Resistive Touch HD screen, I think my only complaint so far is actually the Capacitive touch screen... It takes a second to get used to this. It's not bad but I find myself having to do things a few times...Dude typing with the onscreen keyboard is little hard because of the multiple touch input... Using your finger as apposed to a stylus is a big change...the HD2 doesn't have a stylus so, it's sort of a trial by fire...
Over all the device is crazy awesome, and It will definitely be the Gadget of the Year If it hits US 3G?
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Hi everyone. I am sure there are serveral threads already on here in which people have asked about the new HD2 and AT&T's 3G signal. I searched around and found tidbits of information here and there so I thought I'd start a new thread and ask some questions that some of us AT&T users here in the states have.
I purchased a Touch HD (T8285) from an Australian seller not too long ago that was branded with the Telstra logo on it and it worked with my AT&T 3G signal here in the US near the Washington DC area.
My question to everyone is, is there a Telstra version of the HD2 currently available that will also work with the AT&T 3G signal? I see that there are a bunch of vendors in the UK that are selling this phone and I believe they won't work with our 3G signal here but is there an Australian one that will?
If so, where can someone buy or preorder it from? Any help is VERY MUCH appreciated.
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There is already a thread on this topic. I am waiting for the Telstra version myself. Interestingly, Telstra has a website. Yeah, who knew? Anyway, they are an amazing resource on which phones are available to Telstra subscribers.
Ok. I have I answer to where you can get the Austrailian HD2 that runs 3G on AT&T. Email [email protected] as they will have this week. Ask for Kevin and say Jeff gave me info and it's yours at the best price anywhere. For real!
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Ok. I have I answer to where you can get the Austrailian HD2 that runs 3G on AT&T. Email [email protected] as they will have this week. Ask for Kevin and say Jeff gave me info and it's yours at the best price anywhere. For real!
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They've been available on eBay for a while now. Just make sure you get the right one.
htc hd2 telstra works on att 3g
Bakzoom said:
Hi everyone. I am sure there are serveral threads already on here in which people have asked about the new HD2 and AT&T's 3G signal. I searched around and found tidbits of information here and there so I thought I'd start a new thread and ask some questions that some of us AT&T users here in the states have.
I purchased a Touch HD (T8285) from an Australian seller not too long ago that was branded with the Telstra logo on it and it worked with my AT&T 3G signal here in the US near the Washington DC area.
My question to everyone is, is there a Telstra version of the HD2 currently available that will also work with the AT&T 3G signal? I see that there are a bunch of vendors in the UK that are selling this phone and I believe they won't work with our 3G signal here but is there an Australian one that will?
If so, where can someone buy or preorder it from? Any help is VERY MUCH appreciated.
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yes the Australian one will work properly. there are some videos demonstrating htc hd2 telstra working in the att 3g network. search them in google to believe. i have t-mobile htc hd2 but still could not find the solution
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yes the Australian one will work properly. there are some videos demonstrating htc hd2 telstra working in the att 3g network. search them in google to believe. i have t-mobile htc hd2 but still could not find the solution
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This is already well known and this thread is months old. This is your first post... what made you dig up this old thread and bring it back from the dead?
Also, welcome to xda.
Guys, I just purchased the Tattoo yesterday after checking specs worldwide and on all forums, and today I was going through the box specs it mentions support only up to EDGE. I was shocked and called the HTC helpline and was told that the India version does not support 3G !!!! This is after the store person checking specs. and confirming that it is 3g...Please can anyone throw light on this...I am saddended as I wanted a future proof phone atleast for a cple of years....Also if any developer or inside guy would have an idea whether this could just be a software limitation or even a hardware one...Thanks
yeah.... even i am fooled like that only. i thought 3G is also there before i buy it. the very next day when i was searching for it, i couldnt get that. very sad with the date of auctioning 3G in india coming nearer & you get a blow underneath is not fair from HTC.... too sad
i didnt expect this kind of royal work from internationally well-known company....
Contacted HTC support
I contacted HTC support and to a very long query they answered
"Dear Kashish Dhanjani,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
To clarify your issue, you stated that: YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ACCESS 3 G SERVICES IN HTC DIAMOND.
We would like to intimate that, HTC Tattoo is not 3G enabled phone. It is Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
For more information visit http://www.htc.com/in/product/tattoo/specification.html
If the above steps do not resolve your issue, we invite you to visit the support area on our Web site. Please go to: http://www.htc.com/www/support.aspx
Or you can go to: http://www.htc.com/select_country.htm, select your country and then click on the Support tab.
You can also call our Call Center at: 1800 11 33 77
if you have further questions.
Thank you once again for your continued patronage.
Best regards,
Sartaj.
HTC"
I don't understand what course of action we have here, only we can hope that this is an OS limitation they actually haven't limited the hardware, may be some advanced members can throw some light on this?
hi kashish, its evident from their reply that its EDGE enabled phone only. i hope its not limited by OS. infact hardware itself is not there i guess... how did u come to know that its just an OS limited functionality??? i have no idea.... even i am curious to know the answer because i too own a tattoo just like u....
one doubt i have, what if i flash my tattoo with European ROM's??? will that enable 3G function on my tattoo according to you ???? just curiosity..
we will never knw!
Hey...i dont think we;ll know after flashing unless we get 3g in india! i guess we've been dealt a sour deal..which city are you in? we can go try to raise hell at the HTC service ctnre or something....
i am placed in bangalore... i dont think we can do much about it. more over, they have not quoted anywhere on their asian site saying that, its 3G. even i saw specifications on gsmarena.com & went straightaway to buy it... i dont know about u.
Let me assure u that, if u think that we can do something about it, i will give u company. where r u placed in India???
No 3G in Tattoo
Guys,
I have also been a victim of this and after purchasing the tattoo i came to know there is no 3G... Let me also tell u that the indian version of the HTC Diamond also did not have 3G...
Sitting back and when i started to think.. I went to the htc website and made a bit research.. Going to the European Tattoo site it shows me
HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 384 kbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
and in US its a bit different (P.S. Tattoo is not launched in US yet)
Different regions have different ranges (Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands)
As all are aware that 3G spectrum is not yet finalized in India, I feel that HTC did not take a risk of assuming a spectrum and releasing a 3G radio for it but instead played a safer way of removing the 3G radio from it. so when in the future when the frequency bands are finalized, chances are there for HTC to sell alone the 3G radios which can be inserted onto the Tattoo.
Any comments on my hypothesis are welcomed..
Ram
I think the 3G limitation is a software one, and not a hardware limitation. If you look at the model number for the Tattoo, A3232, it's the same for the Indian as well as other versions. So I'm assuming that the hardware is the same. So i hope that with the much rumoured Android 2.1 update to the Tattoo, 3G capability is brought back.
is the 3G service really a software based one???? now BSNL is offering 3G service in India. why cant we see their 3G service if we do network search then ????
what if we flash our ROM with European tattoo ROM, then shall we get the 3G icon on top of our main screen ??? as we have noticed that icon in youtube videos of tattoo being used in foreign countries???
i am curious to know the answer for this...... pls sheikh.....
TBH, I really don't know for sure if the European ROM will enable 3G. I'm only guessing that since the hardware is the same, the 3G service has been disabled in the Indian ROM.
BTW, yesterday, I played some YouTube videos using my EDGE internet service, and they worked just fine.
thanks for ur timely responses sheik.... i really appreciate that u have shared ur knowledge with us...... keep up the good work bro. i will again disturb u for more knowledge if the situation demands.... pls dont feel bad, ok?????
No problem!
more victims!!
very slyly HTC has released the much celebrated Tattoo, not once it was mentioned that this isnt same as the rest of the world. The tattoo sell for the same price in the UK..we arent exactly a very rich nation comparatively to get a stripped down product at the same price...the phone is awesome...but i really thought it had 3g, any calls to the HTC support comes back with the same response 'sorry to inform you.....' I sincerely hope the limitation is a s/w one!!! any android experts might be able to confirm.....
another victim!
It is really sad, I was also ignorant of this. I am waiting for 3g service at my area to test it.
hi guys, today when i was searching for some settings, i found out that htc tattoo indian version is 3G capable..... i have the proof also...
i will upload it for you those who dont believe in my words....
Wowy!
Please do so fasttt!!!! i am glad...i hope its true!
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hi guys, today when i was searching for some settings, i found out that htc tattoo indian version is 3G capable..... i have the proof also...
i will upload it for you those who dont believe in my words....
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Great news.. please do share your finding
go to settings> about phone> in that look for baseband version.... there 3G is mentioned.... i hope its the same which says that tattoo is 3G enabled...
did u get a chance to try it out?
Hey the baseband version goes like this
13.29.55.13G_etc...
the pessimist in me says it also looks like 13G....the specs on HTCs India website says its EDGE whereas the same specsheet for its UK website says its 3G/HSDPA....
I think the best way to do it is to pop a BSNL/MTNL card in it; which i tried doing although but given MTNLs history they might not have implemented 3G in the area I was trying it.
but you could have had checked with BSNL's 3G sim and should have trid it whether 3G works or not.....
moreover this EDGE what its displaying in our tattoo is network type which the operators are offering the technology of service for us.... once they get upgraded to 3G, then we can say it for sure that whether its 3G enabled or not....
anyway sorry for disappointing you guys.... i was also as enthusiastic as you were while buying & until i came to know about this news..... hope for the best.... if there is no 3G in tattoo...no worries.... always google nexus is there no..... cheapest one with all the features... we all here can get one piece for their own from our relatives / friends..... not a big deal right ?????
just chill guys... why to break our heads for this 3G ?????
I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
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I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
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I'ved used Kaiser and Touch Pro in Japan with the same 2100MHz UMTS-Band I. If you don't understand the bands, then good luck.
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I'ved used Kaiser and Touch Pro in Japan with the same 2100MHz UMTS-Band I. If you don't understand the bands, then good luck.
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I understand the bands. The confusion is that TMOUS uses 2100 up and 1700 down (or vice versa) for 3g, so some think that it can't handle the Euro and Asian 2100 up and down. There's no clear specs that I can see where 2100 is a standalone for up and down for 3g data.
I've read threads here from supposedly knowledgeable people saying that it can and can't work. That is why I'd like someone who has actually tried it rather than guesses and speculation.
I hope you're right and thanks for the info.
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I understand the bands. The confusion is that TMOUS uses 2100 up and 1700 down (or vice versa) for 3g, so some think that it can't handle the Euro and Asian 2100 up and down.
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I'm with you and I agree the labeling is somewhat inconsistent.
However, the consistency I've seen in any official docs, including the manual and FCC is if they list 1700 in the official specs, it's FDD-IV AWS (1700+2100), and if they list 2100, it's FDD-I (1900+2100).
In fact, there has never been any official docs that explicitly list what the up/down frequencies are so you can definitely take it as Band-I and Band IV.
Band-I can be used with most Asia/Euro carriers
I hope you guy's are right. I'll feel much better when someone actually uses a TMOUS HD2 in Europe or Asia with 3G an reports back.
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I'd really like to know if anyone has used an unlocked TMOUS HD2 in Asia or Europe and has been able to get 3g data. I've seen threads here saying that it will and will not work, but no one that has actually tried it.
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remember that the G1 works in europe fine with the 3g. us g1 has been used in europe so i don't see the HD2 being any different. if not call htc and tell them you will be traveling abroad with your HD2 and will it work in europe with 3g.
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I hope you guy's are right. I'll feel much better when someone actually uses a TMOUS HD2 in Europe or Asia with 3G an reports back.
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The first thing for me is unlock .... so that I can try with sim card from Asia carrier
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remember that the G1 works in europe fine with the 3g. us g1 has been used in europe so i don't see the HD2 being any different. if not call htc and tell them you will be traveling abroad with your HD2 and will it work in europe with 3g.
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True, but I think the HD2 uses a different radio that is part of the Snapdragon chipset, I may be totaly wrong, but that's why I'm so dubious.
Good idea, I never thought of calling HTC. Although, I think I recall a post by someone doing that before the phone came out and the HTC rep just recited the supported bands instead of giving a definitive yes or no to 3g working in Asia/Europe. Nothing like real world use from someone actually doing it I suppose. Some of the reps at these companies know less than we do about their own products, lol. Either way a call to HTC can't hurt, thanks for the suggestion.
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The first thing for me is unlock .... so that I can try with sim card from Asia carrier
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Please let us know how it works out for you. Thanks in advance.
My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
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My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
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Thank you. I'll be looking forward to hearing your response.
I called HTC customer support and the rep told me that Asia, Europe, and the US are on different "networks", so we will not receive 3g outside the US. I'm pretty sure the rep has no clue. To be honest, if the rep told me it would work I would still not feel relieved, they seem to not know the most basic of things about their products.
We'll just have to wait till someone here reports back.
Since US HD2 has band 1 and 4 UMTS, it'll surely work in Europe and Asia (except in band 8 area).
Hi,
my T-Mobile HD2 from the US works fine in Germany (Europe).
Hannes
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Hi,
my T-Mobile HD2 from the US works fine in Germany (Europe).
Hannes
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Do you get 3G service?
I sent an email to HTC regarding 3G and this is what I got:
"Thank you for contacting HTC.
With reference to your query, normally HTC HD2 does support 3G network. However, since this is an US local customize phone, we would suggest you to contact with HTC US for double check. You can select the country for US to drop them an email to check that.
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again. "
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Do you get 3G service?
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It works fine, so I guess thats a yes
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It works fine, so I guess thats a yes
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Great news. Thanks for letting us know.
Any story now?
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My US T-Mobile HTC HD2 will arrive on Monday, I am from Philippines, I'll let you know if 3G will or will not work.
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My friend is still in waiting list for HD2 .... so are you OK with 3G in Asia?
any data connection problem?
i am also waiting for TMOUS HD2 and will let you know.
Hi all,
I've successfully flashed my genuine T-Mobile HTC SP5m in the past and now I'm about to buy this "china made" version of the HTC Touch and I'd like to know if I'll be able of flashing this "fake" HTC Touch to the most recent ROM available, e.g. WM6.5 instead of the pre-loaded WM6.1?
Here's the "fake" HTC Touch I'm about to buy: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21069
In the Discussions section of the DX website, a user is asking if this phone is ROM/firmware upgradeable and here's the answer provided, is it true??
Subject: ROM/firmware upgradeable?
CosmoVitelli Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:40 AM
Without a new ROM image from the manufacturer - forget it.
Simonetti2010 Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:58 AM
You might want to try http://forum.xda-developers.com/
The guys at XDA Developers have up-to-date ROMs for almost every WM phones released.
CosmoVitelli Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:26 PM
Wrong. XDA Dev is focussed on genuine HTC phones, and trying to install a HTC ROM will make any of the chinese copies become a useless brick.
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highmighty
CosmoVitelli is right. I would never by a clone, nor try flashing one. Just spend the extra to buy a ligit phone and have the ability to use XDA!
Thanks for your reply. That's what I finally did, I bought an official HTC XV6900 at half the DX price off eBay, it's new Verizon phone in an opened box. Can't wait to receive it.
I'll have to flash it cause my provider here in Quebec is Fido and not Verizon.
Which firmware with WM6.5 would you guys suggest me?
Thanks all,
highmighty
Thats a vogue, so CDMA, you'll need to head there. They do have FroYo android roms running on it. 6.5 - not sure what roms exist for it.
Are you sure that phone will work for you. It is CDMA, from what I understand, Fido (Rogers) are GSM? I only ask as the DX link was a GSM phone.
Damnit... true, Verizon uses CDMA and my Fido carrier is using GSM, what's next? Reselling the phone as soon as I receive it? I've read somewhere that it is possible to use a CDMA phone on a GSM network, that there are some agreements made between the 2 now, that it will connect to at least the EDGE network but not 3G, etc? Is that true, are you aware of such a thing?
Thank you for your time,
highmighty
I'm not aware of such a thing, we don't seem to have any CDMA here in england, everything is Sim Card GSM Based.
In my honest opinion though, I don't think it will even connect to the GPRS network as there would be nothing telling it teh details (your sim card is not present)
EOF then I guess
Anyone interested by a new HTC CDMA Touch XV6900 currently locked to Verizon??
I'd recommend going to the xda marketplace section in general, you make have some luck there
Could always try to sweet talk the seller into taking a return?
Sorry that I ruined your hopes