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Just a thought that came to me...
I was perusing some old posts about when the g1 came out. It seems funny to me that since the launch of the g1 and android, the people that loves the iphone (fanboys -- trying not to be flaming here - lol), How many comments about how this phone is going to die out soon and what not. I think back when the iphone came out and that was only just over 2 years ago, and the g1 is now only 3 months shy of its birthday, how many people bashed this phone.
I love this phone and most people at work would love to have one, but they aren't on t-mobile. They like what the capabilities of this phone will become and then some. I think that they were wrong to get rid of the keyboard, I like being able to type and the screen and not half hidden by a vk.
I think that the prices on the market are such that it will also bring people this this system (not just the phones). With what is coming out from the various manufactures that are makikng android phones, i think about the fact that there is only 2 phones available from the iphone....
I wonder how dead is this phone? If this OS came in a flip phone (because that is what my wife wants), then I will be more than happy to give her one. All in all, I will stick with android, not because i am a "fanboy", but because I believe in the magic of opensource and helping one another is what being human is about.
So, one last comment before I put my drunk ass to bed, dollars to doughnuts, this'll be around for awhile. I like both phones, they are basically the same under all the glitter. But, hey, everyone has a choice.
have a great 4th of july everyone, and if you are not from the USA, then I hope you have a great 4th of july also.
bodyman said:
Just a thought that came to me...
I wonder how dead is this phone?.
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The phone isn't dead, it's because T-Mobile doesn't really give a crap about their phones enough to actually market them. They also don't care about you, the consumer. Honestly, all they care about is their bottom line.
Look at any call center. Many call centers constantly run competitions for CSR's to win some widget. Sell x amount of this brand of phone and win a prize.
Know what that means? When a consumer calls in wanting a Blackberry (or whatever), the CSR is going to do whatever they can to convince you to buy phone brand x because they want to win the widget, not because they give a damn about what phone would best suite you.
Tmobile actively encourages this kind of crap and they should be ashamed.
Very true. Back in Jan someone I know went to tmo asking about the g1. The rep told him it sucks buy a blackberry, (the flip one.. pearl maybe? I dunno). That was the craziest thing I have ever heard. Bb > android? Is this guy high?.. lol needless to say he has since returned and purchased the g1 after talking to me. I just thought this to be insane.
Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?
Well you can tell your friedn that android does support push now.
I used to be on the old Symbian 60 platform on Nokia smart phones, Nokia N-Gage QD to be exact. That is where my lust for smart phones kicked off.
Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.
Came from...
Sanyos
Audiovox9800(best phone verizon EVER had)
Treo 600
Treo 650
BB
Ocean(Used to work at Helio)
Shadow(had for 2 days!! hate that keyboard!!!)
7Dashes(Kept screwing up)
Wing
My baby(G1)
lame phones!
Well to be honest the g1 is my first smart phone. B4 that I had mid line phones. U know not cheap but not expensive. I wanted an iPhone but when I say the promo site for it I reserved it for the partial discount price. But as fate would have it I had to cancel. See I have a oil heater at home and we all know its expensive to fill up. So I was sad for a bit but after seeing 2 of my friends with the g1 I said wth and ordered it again. And this time tmo gave me the full discount because I have been a costomer for over 8 years! When I got it I fell in love. **** the iphone. LONG LIVE ANDROID!
first smartphone was
Blackberry pearl 8100 tmobile(scroll ball problems)
tmobile wing(water damage)
tmobile shadow(cracked screen)
unlocked 8525(screen went white)
unlocked tilt (8925) with duttythroy rom loaded up(sold it for 150 and walked back into the mall and said i wanted to upgrade to g1 =)
and now g1 with 2.7.3 jachero.
when i had my tilt, i missed the blackberry push email and the trackball.dpad gets annoying at times.
but i love the skyfire browser and vtap on windowsmobile.. vtap on android kinda blows since it only looking up youtube vids.. and flash content on the skyfire browser was a beaut. i wish the hero rom flash capabilities could compare to skyfire =(
The T-Mobile Shadow. The Original, not that new one.
This is the "friend" he spoke off on the first post..
This is the real issue down here: read what I wrote below.
I'm not sick of BlackBerry (BB). I love the whole package.
But I would like to have other options and recently I've noticed that WinMo/Android and basically no other operating system comes with the whole package as well integrated as a BB. And this is bothersome to me because at this rate I'm stuck with BB.
Guys is it possible to have at least 5 email accounts setup on a Android device (or WinMo)? Will it work as good as my BB does (AKA. Push E-mail)?
If not then what steps can I take to acquire said features (on an Android or WinMo device)? I'm willing to pay a MAX monthly fee of $30 if I have to. Which is what I'm actually paying BB at the moment for the whole "BlackBerry" thing.
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Well out of curiosity before android where did most of you come from? I myself previously had windows and sidekick devices. I want to know why you made the change if you guys want to discuss it and what you miss about your former platform... For example, Blackberry users might miss all the push email ... I have a friend who has a blackberry and he seems to think he cannot have a good experience with android because it doesn't automatically support push for other email accounts... any one went through the same thing?
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By the way I don't think I won't have a good experience with Android. I've seen what the OS and UI behave like. I like it.
Read my post above and U'll understand what this is about. It's about me becoming so organized that I refuse to leave this unless I'm 100% sure there is a equal substitute in the platform I'm going to.
went from
some random samsung phone (one of those really ghetto clamshell ones that refuse to break)
to a nokia 6265, which was a great phone, but it got stolen
to a moto krzr red, the only one that was impossible to hack T.T
to a samsung sgh-d807, which i found on the ground in the snow after my krzr's screen cracked,
to my rogers htc dream
Chahk said:
Before Android I used to be a smartphone virgin. I always went with whatever "free" (read: heavily subsidized) handset the carrier was offering with the 2-year subscriptions. Once I had a chance to play with a co-worker's G1, I knew what my next phone would be.
As fate would have it my crappy flip-phone died a few months back. I went to a local retailer, shelled out the full $400 for an unlocked G1, added the $15 basic data plan to my AT&T account, and never looked back.
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This, minus the unlocked G1/ATT. Got it for my birthday in November.
first I had random samsungs and lg's just for the camera's and cool ringtones.
moved to an audiovox smt 5600( i think it was actually an Htc) coolest cheap phone ever!
samsung black jack... sucked couldnt even watch movies on it.
2g iphone ..no mms and no video recorder mode until modded. I hated the fact that apple had so much control.
Now loving the G1
Well I've been through several smartphones, lets see: 1) nokia 3620 2) htc c500 3) htc c600 4) htc dream. Definitely like android more than winmo or s60. I've also played with a few blackberry pearls and detested them, reminds me of the crappy symbian interface without the flexibility. As far as the gentleman wondering about push email on android. Set the gmail account to retrieve emails from your other accounts via pop, if you wish it can leave them on the other mail servers or delete them. Once the mail shows up in gmail it will push to your phone.
Early motorola phone (Dont remember I was 18 with money and influenced by a mall guy ) I never got my free case for it.
Nokia device (liked it cause of the big screen on the outside and could have pics there)
Motorola RAZR V3 Miami Ink Edition (one with dragon on it) I liked this phone and it was a true trooper. A lot of people were having issues with it being so fragile but I beat mine up and it took it with a passion.
And finally my G1. Actually the real reason I wanted it was cause of the Open Source that it featured but I am sure that I was not the only one out there. I will say this I wanted this phone cause I do webdesign and I figured that I could be different from the whole BB society. My only pep peeve is the kids that get the phone for the trend factor and not the modding factor but I guess thats just me
Came from the BB pearl. Greatest choice I've ever made other then beer.
my smart phone life started on a Nokia 6682, but i quickly upgraded to an 8525, and then the tilt the day it camem out. i can't stand to have a non-touch screen phone anymore so i went to t-mo and got the G1, bit of a downgrade on my service as now i only have EDGE but hopefully i can get back to 3G soon. the only way to get me to even look at a phone is to tell me it has a touchscreen and a full hardware qwerty keyboard, i don't care if it's a 4-row or 5-row, but i am liking the keyboard on this phone
I've only had 3 cell phones in my life so far, my first cell phone was the Sanyo SCP-8200 in silver, my second was the Nokia 5610 in white and now I have my very first smart phone...the T-Mobile G1 in white. I made the change because I saw potential in the G1 to be the best and I don't usually ride the band wagon because it's new and everybody's getting it but if it's official and exclusive like the G1 then I'm riding it to the mothasucking wheels fall off but what I do miss from my former cell phones was camera flash.
First phone was a skytel on nextel, then had a grayscale blue moto with a flip up keyboard (forget the name), then v3, v3i, v8 (or something like that merlot slide phone similar to v9), g1.
Before android i had a windows phone the shadow to be exact the original one not that new round one before that i was a samsung fan
For those of you that have experience with phones that have gone through an os update is it safe to assume that all apps including 3rd party will run better? Or is it more likely that only stock apps that are included in the os will run better? I know its hard to say but I'm just wondering how much of an improvement 2.1 has right across the board.
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Well I know that when I had my nexus one and used ADW I was using the samsung galaxy s style app drawer and it was 10 times smoother than my X10....other than that I can't thnk of differences on other apps I used then and now.
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yes you will likely notice some difference overall. on my last phone i went from 1.6 to 2.0.1 to 2.1 to 2.2. given i got to play with several custom builds.. i noticed the difference for sure.
Was just by the Bell store in Canada and if the speed and smooth feel of the Samsung Galaxy S they had on display had anything to with 2.1 than I really can't wait to see the improvements with the X10. On a lighter note I went by the Rogers store that was close by to ask about the 2.1 update and they said it was already available as of the end of September. Made me laugh.
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Was just by the Bell store in Canada and if the speed and smooth feel of the Samsung Galaxy S they had on display had anything to with 2.1 than I really can't wait to see the improvements with the X10. On a lighter note I went by the Rogers store that was close by to ask about the 2.1 update and they said it was already available as of the end of September. Made me laugh.
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Wow lol...they just have no clue man.
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Some of them really don't have any clue at all. You would think if you worked at a phone store that you might Google a couple of the phones every now at then. When I was shopping for a new phone before I got my X10 I went to a Bell store by my work. "I broke my phone and I need another one. It has to be Android and good. What do you have in stock?" The guy tried to sell me a Samsung Wave.(not even android)
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I got mine at a Three Mobile store in AUS around March this year and the guy said the update was meant to be September, I already knew that, but was impressed that he actually knew it as well.
gooph said:
Some of them really don't have any clue at all. You would think if you worked at a phone store that you might Google a couple of the phones every now at then. When I was shopping for a new phone before I got my X10 I went to a Bell store by my work. "I broke my phone and I need another one. It has to be Android and good. What do you have in stock?" The guy tried to sell me a Samsung Wave.(not even android)
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My friend got ripped at a phone shop. He went to buy android and walk out with a wave. They really have no idea.
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OK well since we're getting into this.
When I broke my old phone I went to this shop the same day after work. I had just over a year left on my contract. I was on a special plan that I knew I would have to change if I got a new phone too. First thing I said to the guy was that I was that I needed android on a good phone. So we talked about my contract. He wanted me to keep my existing plan and drop it down to the cheapest $20/m plan to avoid paying out my contract. Then I would add a new line so I could get the subsidy on a new phone. First problem is that if I weren't to use that second line for anything it happens to be the same $20/m to pay out the old contract. After deciding on what to do with a plan we went back to the phones. He showed me this nice looking Samsung wave. i liked the size and shape. it had a 1ghz snapdragon processor. 802.11n 800x480 screen. i thought that was great. Normally I would research the hell out of something like that before I would buy it but I needed my phone back. the guy said it was android so i let him go ahead and set that up. While he was on hold for like half an hour I read the box. It didn't say android on it anywhere. I asked about that and he said not to worry about it. I told him that if it didn't have android on it that i couldn't take that phone. He reassured me not to worry about it. He wouldn't let me even turn it on until he was done on the phone activating it. When he was done I turned it on. Guess what... Not android. Then there was another 45 minute wait while he was on the phone cancelling everything. He couldn't even give me my old plan back because he said that he didn't have the authority.
Im sorry thats a lot of bs to read. You would think that if you were to walk in to a place offering to give money and sign a contract committing you to give more money for a few years that you would get some service.
The next day I went to a Wireless Wave store which serves both Bell and Rogers and told them what happened. I ended up paying out my contract to cancel with Bell and signing up with Rogers (for sake of a decent data plan). I actually got the best service there that I have ever had at a phone store.
Again - sorry for changing topic
yeahyeahyeah1981 said:
Was just by the Bell store in Canada and if the speed and smooth feel of the Samsung Galaxy S they had on display had anything to with 2.1 than I really can't wait to see the improvements with the X10. On a lighter note I went by the Rogers store that was close by to ask about the 2.1 update and they said it was already available as of the end of September. Made me laugh.
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Lol, you can get more info/better answers from somebody on the street than from Roger tech support
I've been using my Focus for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. WP7 obviously needs more features and settings, but MS will be cranking those out soon.
A friend of mine really liked the phone and bought the LG Quantum WP7 and she is very happy with it. When she upgraded her phone, everyone at work was telling her to get an iPhone. Talk about peer pressure! I was surprised that she said no way and wanted a WP7 phone instead after seeing mine.
I've even got some compliments from iPhone users, mainly on how quick and smooth the OS feels.
Time will tell but WP7 is definitely here to stay.
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I've been using my Focus for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. WP7 obviously needs more features and settings, but MS will be cranking those out soon.
A friend of mine really liked the phone and bought the LG Quantum WP7 and she is very happy with it. When she upgraded her phone, everyone at work was telling her to get an iPhone. Talk about peer pressure! I was surprised that she said no way and wanted a WP7 phone instead after seeing mine.
I've even got some compliments from iPhone users, mainly on how quick and smooth the OS feels.
Time will tell but WP7 is definitely here to stay.
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Same happened to me, even Iphone 3GS users felt very tempted to switch to WP7... I have a Focus.
I traded for my Focus (iP4). I have a friend that says they are going to WP7 when their upgrade comes around.
My boyfriend got a Focus after I got mine. He said because, "You look like you really are in love with that phone" (with an eye roll)
But I don't know how much it counts because I let him use my get-one-free from AT&T, so he didn't pay anything for it.
I was following WP7 for 4 months before it came out. I got the Focus the first day and the O/S has exceeded my expectations. Second day I had one sold to my lady friend after she saw mine. A friend of my friend saw hers and bought one the 3rd day. My wife has never had a smart phone and use to be intimated but now in 1 month will buy a Focus after using mine. I believe we are some of the best salesman and women and showing others the smooth O/S sells units. If Microsoft was smart they would give owners incentives to show the phone and compensate people in some manner. I exactly felt the sales initially would be slow but the more peeps that get them in their hands the more friends that will be exposed and that will drive a faster and sustained market share
Also, I have found that turning on Birdy Bounce and passing the phone around does wonders. My whole family went retarded over it this weekend. Dad had problems accidentally activating the capacitive Bing button, though.
We are passing them around to Android and iPhone users at work for test runs. After they use the phone for the day, we're having trouble getting them back. We've been using the Focus and the HTC Surround in that testing. The Focus is far and away the Favorite. If Verizon comes out with the HTC Trophy like they are targeting in January, we may start rolling WP7 out to users who want it on Verizon. I can't roll out the Focus until we get a few SD cards that are certified to work. 8GB isn't enough for folks who have music. 16GB in the Trophy should be enough to start. it would be great if Samsung came out with a CDMA focus with at least 16GB on the phone or a certified SD card preinstalled.
On the SD card thing, I have used Sandisk 16gb Class 2 and 4 and they both work somewhat. After two weeks or so i started having some minor issues. Nothing like the 32GB gave me but I would see perhaps one or two soft resets a day. . that is why I can't recommend the Focus yet for my users. Focus ran great with only the base 8gb in the unit. No resets at all. But I need the extra space for my music library.
Blizzard
So after a day at work (8-4:30) I drove my friends (carpooling) to Severance Hall in Cleveland, OH. We set out at 5pm and arrived at the Hall at 9pm due to the snow.
At the end of the concert (10pm), we drove home and arrived home at 1am in the morning - it made for a very long day and a very long drive that normally takes about 40 minutes.
The crux of the story is this, in the carpool, four of us have an iPhone 4 and I have the Focus. Everyone's iPhone died on the way to the concert (no battery). Therefore, since the journey home was taking so long, everybody in the carpool borrowed my phone to call home and talk to their families. Everyone was extremely impressed at the responsiveness of the Focus and Windows Phone 7 - they absolutely loved it. They commented on the fluidity of the OS, the ease of use (I didn't tell anyone how to use the Phone - they figured it out themselves).
They asked hundreds of questions, used the internet, etc. etc. They were thoroughly impressed with the Phone.
The one thing that everyone agreed on and kept commenting on was ease of use - and I have to agree, it's a very easy to use OS.
Well done Microsoft.
M
ps. My phone died at 1:10am, it was a day of light to medium use (I know that's highly subjective....)
Two friends were due for upgrade along with me (I was due for 4 months but waiting for WP7) and after using my Focus they instantly got one each (surrounds - it was free!).
Both were upgrading from dumbPhones.
all my friends are poor and have no phone upgrades
but they all like the samsung focus
my phone is constantly being borrowed when im somewhere
My wife switch from iphone, and is very happy so far. Her iPhone is not going back to her purse any more.
She enjoy the integration of the social network, the keyboard, the great image and colors of the Samsung Focus
My in-laws liked my focus so much, they bought a pair of of the LG's, cause they wanted keyboards. Btw, they are big mac fans.
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...Second day I had one sold to my lady friend after she saw mine. A friend of my friend saw hers and bought one the 3rd day. My wife has never had a smart phone and use to be intimated but now in 1 month will buy a Focus after using mine...
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Are you not afraid your wife will either read this post or ask your friend who your (boom chicka bow wow) "Lady Friend" is and you will be in big trouble?
Yes, I keep catching my wife looking over my shoulder. She's on the iPhone 4. I have to admit, the iPhone 4 is a VERY nice phone (after Jailbreaking), but I didn't want to fall into the Apple Trap . I've handed the Focus to her to use, and she's quite impressed also. It's smooth and easy to run. Screen is very impressive.
My girl is now tyring to Bogart my focus. She wants me to use her iPhone 3GS. Now I just traded my iP4 to get the Focus last week. No way is she getting my Focus. Gonna find her a deal online somewhere, so we'll have one more people on the WP7 team!
IMHO anyone who uses WP7 for atleast 10 mins will love it. I just showed it to one of my friends who was lecturing me for not buying an iP4 instead and even he loved it.
I think word of mouth is really the best way to promote WP7. So plz guys/gals show your WP7 device to as many people possible.
Whole family.
My mother bought one on my recommendation (Android to comples for her, iPhone too fragile for her). Loves the integrated voice command.
Father saw it at Thanksgiving and wondered why she got it. Later in the day he was wondering what the Knicks score was, brother stepped up to my mother's phone and said, "Knicks score" and up it came. Bowled my father away, and he bought one.
Brother and sister-in-law loved it too. They are getting one. My son, well, he is a Sprint fan and is waiting for them to carry it. As for me, couldn't wait. Got the Focus - love it.
Since then, showed a friend, and he and his wife got the LG - he loves the keyboard. She's a Mac person, but seems to be warming up to it.
Kind of a long read, but here it goes. So last Thursday, for the simple fact that I'm mentally retarded at times I think, I crushed the screen of my Incredible. Since this was the third claim I'd had on my insurance in 3 years, it was dropped and I was well beyond warranty so basically I was left without a phone. I activated an old RAZR just to get me by which, unbeknownst to me, immediately dropped my data plan (grandfathered unlimited). Crap. I scrambled and called VZW customer service only to be told "too bad, so sad" for the most part, well I decided to say screw it and just use the RAZR until the Nexus drops instead of using my upgrade on a phone I didn't really want right now.
Fast forward to Tuesday, I get a call from a VZW CS representative who is doing a follow up (read trying to get me to put the $30 data plan back on before they lost the chance at it) who tells me that, so long as I put a smartphone back on before my next bill (the 30th) they can put the unlimited back on. So starts the decision making process, I really wanted this plan and honestly was going to just use my upgrade for an IP4S (only after hours of scouting CL for a cheap Android and coming up empty) and then sell that when the Nexus dropped and buy the Nexus outright.
Well I went to my local store today and talked over this plan with my rep as well as a few other ideas (such as buying a phone I didn't care about at BB and using their 30 day return window assuming the Nexus drops in the next 30), he tells me to hold on just a second and that he has an idea. Goes to the back, finds an old display Continuum that they are about to return, hands it to me and tells me so long as I give him the sale when the Nexus drops, I can just use the Continuum until then. I was honestly dumbfounded, in all my dealings with VZW (believe me, there's been a lot) they had always done what was right to me in the end, but not without hassle and certainly not by going out of their way for me, so this action really caught me off guard. Talk about earning a customer for life, short of something extraordinarily dramatic in the future, they have me forever. Just thought I'd share this positive story since most aren't that great in the end.
AS far as the Continuum goes, it's honestly surprised the heck out of me. It's still on Eclair because the whole 12 people that actually bought the phone wasn't enough to warrant an upgrade LOL, but it's smooth and extremely responsive honestly for having only 384 MB of RAM (I believe, I don't think it was given the 512 found in the other Galaxy S variants). Far more so than my Incredible was on anything but Gingersense stock and the camera is absolutely in another league despite the 3MP deficit. The ticker display is gimmicky for anything other than music play as far as I'm concerned and I would rather have the extra screen real estate, but other than that I'm extremely pleased with the phone.
That's awesome. I've always had a fantastic time with Verizon too. I love the Big Red. They are awesome. Also, anyone out there will to give up there upgrade so I can get a Galaxy Nexus?
thats awesome man. when/if i get a job for big red, thats how im gonna treat all my customers!
Sounds like you found a good one. We have had a great experience at our Verizon store, but frankly most of the employees suck. You usually tell the ones that won't be very helpful.
Last week I went in and the lady did not even know if they had any android phones with a keyboard. I asked if she knew about any of the new phones coming out and she only knew about the iphone 4s.
I believe they make commission so I don't know why they can be so indifferent.
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Sounds like you found a good one. We have had a great experience at our Verizon store, but frankly most of the employees suck. You usually tell the ones that won't be very helpful.
Last week I went in and the lady did not even know if they had any android phones with a keyboard. I asked if she knew about any of the new phones coming out and she only knew about the iphone 4s.
I believe they make commission so I don't know why they can be so indifferent.
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That was 100% what drove my rep to be so helpful, but at that point, I had no care as far as his ulterior motives were concerned lol, I just wanted my unlimited data back.
That's awesome
Dope employee right there
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Kind of a long read, but here it goes. So last Thursday, for the simple fact that I'm mentally retarded at times I think, I crushed the screen of my Incredible. Since this was the third claim I'd had on my insurance in 3 years, it was dropped and I was well beyond warranty so basically I was left without a phone.
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You can buy a replacement screen on amazon for about $30. I've replaced mine twice.