Videocall without front camera? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

It is possible make videlcalls with PDA without front camera like HTC Touch 3G?
I think is only a dialer problem!.. or not?
Any help?

Nobody? Any help?

If there's a way I would love to hear it too. Have a CDMA Diamond, and can think of plenty of situations it'd be useful to make a video call where the other person can see what I'm pointing the camera at, especially if I can combine it with speakerphone.

why don't u guys try qik.com? it offers u the ability to live broadcast a video feed from your camera. and if you are on 3G, u can talk and send video at the same time.

AthenaLod said:
why don't u guys try qik.com? it offers u the ability to live broadcast a video feed from your camera. and if you are on 3G, u can talk and send video at the same time.
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I just installed it and tried it out, but I can't seem to figure out any way to send my video feed directly to another phone? It seems like it automatically puts it online to my qik account, but there's no way to have an interactive conversation with a viewer while it's streaming?

manekineko said:
I just installed it and tried it out, but I can't seem to figure out any way to send my video feed directly to another phone? It seems like it automatically puts it online to my qik account, but there's no way to have an interactive conversation with a viewer while it's streaming?
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you are right, it just does this. i thought this is what you are looking for. if the other party is on 3G, they can view your feed on the website, just a work around.

I used to have a Hermes, Cingular 8525 variant without the front facing camera. I flashed it with a rom that supports video calling. The result - I can make/receive a video call. I can see the other person I'm talking with, but he can't see me.

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Fring SUCKS!

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[rant] Fring freaking sucks, how in the world could they release a program that is this bad and expect people to use it? I try to use it just for skype, and 90% of the time I can't log in, can't see half my contacts online, or even see anyone. Calls don't go through, and the rare times when the program works perfectly you can't video call on it because of the sound echo. Sure you can put the sound into the ear speaker but that's useless during a video call unless you want the other person to look at your ear the entire time! Qik needs to put out a desktop app or a web app to allow video calling from a computer, and fring needs to overhaul their app so it's actually useable.[/rant]
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[rant] Fring freaking sucks, how in the world could they release a program that is this bad and expect people to use it? I try to use it just for skype, and 90% of the time I can't log in, can't see half my contacts online, or even see anyone. Calls don't go through, and the rare times when the program works perfectly you can't video call on it because of the sound echo. Sure you can put the sound into the ear speaker but that's useless during a video call unless you want the other person to look at your ear the entire time! Qik needs to put out a desktop app or a web app to allow video calling from a computer, and fring needs to overhaul their app so it's actually useable.[/rant]
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YEA THAT POS WHEN U CALLED ME well.. it was qik.. BUT STILL you couldnt even hear me talk.. WTF lol
mrono said:
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[rant] Fring freaking sucks, how in the world could they release a program that is this bad and expect people to use it? I try to use it just for skype, and 90% of the time I can't log in, can't see half my contacts online, or even see anyone. Calls don't go through, and the rare times when the program works perfectly you can't video call on it because of the sound echo. Sure you can put the sound into the ear speaker but that's useless during a video call unless you want the other person to look at your ear the entire time! Qik needs to put out a desktop app or a web app to allow video calling from a computer, and fring needs to overhaul their app so it's actually useable.[/rant]
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it takes a minute or so for fring to load your skype contacts. you're not loading skype, you're loading fring, which then has to log into skype, grab your contacts, check their status etc...
regarding the sound, yeah, i agree, it sucks over speaker. try a headset and see if it still blows
timothydonohue said:
it takes a minute or so for fring to load your skype contacts. you're not loading skype, you're loading fring, which then has to log into skype, grab your contacts, check their status etc...
regarding the sound, yeah, i agree, it sucks over speaker. try a headset and see if it still blows
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can't use a BT headset with fring and I don't have a wired one
Works fine w/ Skype for me over wifi. A/V quality is poor, but it is first gen tech, for the most part.
Sent from my HTC EVO using Tapatalk
It worked fine for me also... completed a call using 3g (it was a bit laggy), but the person on the other end could see and hear me ok. Quality depends on ur connection.
I tried it tonight and me and the person I was calling were both on wifi connections using an Evo, and the sound quality was so terrible neither of us could stand it. We were both trying to talk over each other's echo. There's no point in advertising Evo as a videochat phone if that's the best they can do.
Lol, I thought that it was just me. I was showing someone the test call feature (since I dont have any video friends yet) and was very surprised that it sounded like Azzsmacky.
Fring is fine with me. There is a slight delay in voice, but my wife and I have been able to carry a conversation using it.
LOL I was just complaing about fring last night.
This is dumb...Fring is the best app out there for Video chat that I know of.
Qik is very limited and doesn't have to even load contacts the same way Fring does.
Basically, why are you ranting about (what I perceive) to be the best video chat app for Android?
Once Skype is out, then maybe you can rant about how much it sucks compared to Skype, lol
Neotelos_com said:
This is dumb...Fring is the best app out there for Video chat that I know of.
Qik is very limited and doesn't have to even load contacts the same way Fring does.
Basically, why are you ranting about (what I perceive) to be the best video chat app for Android?
Once Skype is out, then maybe you can rant about how much it sucks compared to Skype, lol
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i'm ranting because it is the best out there, and that's sad lol. Yes I know that the evo just got released but fring is just bad, it doesn't even work with the camera on my sisters moto droid because of 'device limitations'
I can't even get skype to load through fring it acts like it will then after about 10 mins it tells me to try again later.
Same issue here, but remember, it's 1st gen, I am sure we will soon see more apps that can login to your Skype account and provide better quality.
Is there any time line on the general release of the Skype app for Android?
fring has worked great for me. once or twice the video didnt pop up but a reconnect fixed it. i video call my family all the time on it.
Guys!!!
Give it time! This is all new and there's no way anyone here would have expected to work well already. Its barely tested. I'm exciting about video chatting too but honestly, there's not that many people out there I can or want to video chat with...
All in time people......
trillian needs to make a android app version i love trillian and if they made adroid app with vid chat they would sell mad copies i used fring on win obile and have to admit i disliked it been using IM+ works great
I actually preferred IM+ to Fring on my iPod touch... I don't think IM+ has any Skype connectivity tho, does it? (much less video chat)
Impulses said:
I actually preferred IM+ to Fring on my iPod touch... I don't think IM+ has any Skype connectivity tho, does it? (much less video chat)
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Only Skype and Qik right now as far as I know. (at least for video)

Samsung Galaxy S i9000 - Front Facing Camera?

Front facing camera or not?
I found few sources where they say there is front facing camera on Samsung Galaxy S i9000 for video chat.
Can some one confirm this?
Yes there is one and there are even hands-on videos showing it being used (I forgot where )
eh I watch all videos of Samsung Galaxy S and didn't find such video.
It comes with front facing camera and have a button in the call screen to do video call but personally, i dont use that feature since non of my friends / family use that so i cant tell you if it works properly.
But you can try to use front face video camera with fring (over skype service). To video conf with someone who have skype.
I don't want to use that for 3g video call that is very bad but over internet with fring can be nice.
vrhunski said:
But you can try to use front face video camera with fring (over skype service). To video conf with someone who have skype.
I don't want to use that for 3g video call that is very bad but over internet with fring can be nice.
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would be great to see it in action, or with Qik.
Fring doesnt currently support the Front facing camera on the Galaxy S. I'm hoping this situation changes v soon !
ash99 said:
Fring doesnt currently support the Front facing camera on the Galaxy S. I'm hoping this situation changes v soon !
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the new version supports front cams, it might be model specific do you have a link which says otherwise?
just installed and its probably the worst software i've tried so i uninstall.
1) cannot load any contacts from skype
2) load itself even i specifically uncheck to load at startup
3) after i exit, it still stays in memory
i looked at the comments on market and they are mostly negative
ash99 said:
Fring doesnt currently support the Front facing camera on the Galaxy S. I'm hoping this situation changes v soon !
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I tried the Video Call Test on fring and it works.. I don't know if it'll work on an actual Fring to Fring video call..
Fring still have problems with my Galaxy S, it mutes my phone whenever I make a call.. & it does not transmit my voice..
has anyone made a successful Fring Call???
sundip said:
the new version supports front cams, it might be model specific do you have a link which says otherwise?
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I think some other phones like Evo and Dell streak FF Cameras are supported, just not the Galaxy S yet.
DaRkMyk said:
I tried the Video Call Test on fring and it works.. I don't know if it'll work on an actual Fring to Fring video call..
Fring still have problems with my Galaxy S, it mutes my phone whenever I make a call.. & it does not transmit my voice..
has anyone made a successful Fring Call???
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You got it to make a Video call using the front camera ? Surprised as Fring say they are still working on it and I can't do one with my phone.
ash99 said:
I think some other phones like Evo and Dell streak FF Cameras are supported, just not the Galaxy S yet.
You got it to make a Video call using the front camera ? Surprised as Fring say they are still working on it and I can't do one with my phone.
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woops.. my bad.. fring uses the back camera... sorry..
DaRkMyk said:
woops.. my bad.. fring uses the back camera... sorry..
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Forgiven
lol back camera??? is that even possible? I mean back camera would be much better quality for video streaming.
It uses the back camera at present, which would be good for streaming as you suggested. Ideally a mechanism to switch between both would be ideal !
Yes!! That would be great
I have another question. If you install fring and you are online.
1.) Do you have option to check 'start this application when Galaxy S start' ?
2.) Can this application be in background so if you got call over skype phone will ring? I mean can this phone will be used primary like SKYPE phone?
how does the inbuilt video calling work, ie the one in the contacts menu. What types of phones can it call?? is it some open protocol?
Fring improves audio, adds support for Samsung Galaxy S
http://androinica.com/2010/07/21/fring-improves-audio-adds-support-for-samsung-galaxy-s/
Just upgraded and did my test call with the forward facing camera baby! All good.
Now I'm sure the next thing people will be asking for is being able to switch between the two.

Video Call PC - WTF, this must be a conspiracy!

I have searched the net for hours, and I cannot find any easy method to make a Video call from my Galaxy S to my PC via the net.....
Why the heck is this so difficult? The main result I get is Fring, which used to work with Skype, but doesnt any more, so that is useless. They dont even have a PC Client, which is beyond me!
Then there is Qik, but that is useless as well. Either can be used Phone-Phone, but I want Phone - PC so I can video chat with family while I travel.
I am not very experienced with this, but apparently Fring can be configured for SIP services.... but when I looked these up, they are require payment.
Can anyone help me out???? The phone has a front facing camera and can connect to wifi, there is no reason I can see that it shouldnt be an easy thing to do - it seems like all the big telcos are holding back the technology so they can charge their huge rates, hence why I think its a conspiracy!!!!
Cheers!
Yes, I too think the biggest reason for not having video calling over a data connection is due to the telcos' influences. Technically i see no limitation, Fring already did this and showed that it is possible. Skype IMO has the infrastructure but they are more interested in pleasing Verizon than their own customers .
Sipdroid, works with any sip client and trunk that supports video calls.
i tried sipdroid, but i couldn't get it to work, and when i searched somebody said you needed to pay for the account.
but if you say it works, i'll give it another go. so does it work phone to pc or phone to phone or both?
Bump. I've been wondering the same. My small research also seamed to indicate that sipdroid was the way to go.
i've been trying to find a popular video calling App that works with the PC
so far Sipdroid seems to be the only one
"iMovachi"
Ugly as hell and it doesn't support die front camera of the Galaxy S, bit it is the ONLY video chat software that works from android to pc and vice versa.
skyworxx said:
"iMovachi"
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Can't find this anywhere on Google...
movicha (dot) com
Try IMSDROID app
im surprised theres no official google video chat yet. its in gmail. come on google!
sturmeh said:
Sipdroid, works with any sip client and trunk that supports video calls.
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Hi, I am trying my hand at getting Sipdroid setup. I have got my pbx account setup.
Can someone tell me which trunks support video calls ?
Thanks
skyworxx said:
"iMovachi"
Ugly as hell and it doesn't support die front camera of the Galaxy S, bit it is the ONLY video chat software that works from android to pc and vice versa.
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Not compatible with Galaxy S and the software is a totally mess. Force closes every few seconds, horrible resolution, etc...
Has anyone tried ooVoo yet ?
The single user is free (3 user free for 30 days) and it seems to work perfect with the front camera. It was also a doddle to set up.
I use Yahoo Messenger video chat.
I tried Yahoo Messenger but it didn't support the front camera
Tehpriest said:
Has anyone tried ooVoo yet ?
The single user is free (3 user free for 30 days) and it seems to work perfect with the front camera. It was also a doddle to set up.
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Hey.. ooVoo works! Thanks for the advice. Front camera works perfect. I didnt test the voice calls yet... but its free to call phone - PC through wi-fi... its still beta.. hope they improve its quality soon.
another good one is Tango works great between phones
but no PC support yet
Skype app on iPhone already supports video - shame the Android version is still in the dark ages

[Q] Video chat with Gtalk

Hey, how do I start a video chat with someone in google talk?
I've seen it demoed but I can't see how I can call my friends (who don't have tablets) on their phones OR on their computer clients (with webcams and mics).
Is this yet to be implemented? I'd use skype but they don't support video calling on their native app -.-
Thanks.
I've used video chat on Gtalk once....
Any of your friends that are shown as being available that has the "video camera" symbol next to their name rather than just the green dot can be video chatted...
Just click on their name and then you will be asked if you want to video chat with them... answer yes, then it let's them know you want to video with them...takes a couple of seconds (if they answer yes) and then will see them full screen, with a small box showing your video picture in the lower corner...
I have not had anyone with video ask me to chat, so I'm not sure what happens on the other end as far as asking you if you want to video chat...I believe that it will ask you if you wish to allow before turning your camera on....
Yes it can be done, yes it is implemented but that's all I can type from phone at the moment.
Antiskunk said:
Hey, how do I start a video chat with someone in google talk?
I've seen it demoed but I can't see how I can call my friends (who don't have tablets) on their phones OR on their computer clients (with webcams and mics).
Is this yet to be implemented? I'd use skype but they don't support video calling on their native app -.-
Thanks.
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It has to be done via gmail, the talk application doesn't support video chat on Windows so it'll need to be done via the browser but it does work. And yes once they invite you you'll get a popup stating that whoever wants to start a video chat with you.
As far as your phone goes you'll have to use qik or tango. Talk on phones doesn't work with video chat yet. (Unless you have a nexus s i'm pretty sure)
Ahh, I didn't try the gmail plugin. I'll try that, thanks.

[News] Skype now has video...but not SGS? (link to something may work pg2)

I'm updating Skype now on the market. Says has video now. But says only for selected handsets and SGS is not one of them.
ye, sucks typically skype
This is baffling. If the Nexus S can support it without a front-facing camera, why not the SGS?!
Oh crapas. Its bad enough that they decided not to support one of (if not the most) popular android phone running 2.3 now. What's worse is...
a. DOES NOT SAVE PASSWORD. UGH.
b. I personally think the UI is worse. At least the "Sign-Out" is on the menu bar instead of buried in the "status" menu. But because it does not save password, this really sucks. Would it kill them to put a big red "Turn Off" button somewhere?
c. Seemed less stable, but that might be my phone.
d. I thought that the new "SMS" functionality would mean that Skype is now an SMS client, which would combine messaging functions into one program. Add a dialler into it, and it could be kick-ass. But this is NOT SMS. This is a text message sent over Skype's network to an SMS gateway to a phone. It costs much more than my SMSs through my carrier, which are true SMS.
I only use Skype on my phone when I'm travelling and need to call international. If this program was better, I would not mind leaving it on all the time. Now, google talk is starting to look better vis-a-vis Skype. If only I could call phones from Google Talk, like I can on my computer...
i hope anyone can hack this and enable video for sgs
x10isrooted said:
i hope anyone can hack this and enable video for sgs
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10 char
not only does it not save your password but it also now has a running service that doesn't let u close the app.
going back to the old version
Use gtalk if you have root and 2.3.4
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Skype sucks anyways. Do you really think it will become better with MS?
What we really need is open standard video conferencing protocols.
zorxd said:
Skype sucks anyways. Do you really think it will become better with MS?
What we really need is open standard video conferencing protocols.
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Its one of those things in which the network is the value. Skype is used for international business and communication. It works better than Google Talk (which also is not open I believe) for talk between China and USA. It works for making cheap international computer to phone calls.
But yes...the company does suck. They can't provide chat customer service...and they're a communications company. Also interface is only so-so.
I NEED Skype on my phone...if no Android version I would get an iPhone. Only other way to call USA from China (without paying huge rates) is to activate VPN and use Google Talk. And that option only started 2 months ago. And I can only call a computer, not a phone with Google.
Fring and Nimbus, IMO, are no better than Skype and don't have desktop clients.
ogami_ito said:
Fring and Nimbus, IMO, are no better than Skype and don't have desktop clients.
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I hate it when people suggest Fring as a replacement for Skype. Give me a software to video chat between Android and PC seamlessly and then I'll call it a replacement for Skype.
onetik said:
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I hate it when people suggest Fring as a replacement for Skype. Give me a software to video chat between Android and PC seamlessly and then I'll call it a replacement for Skype.
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it's ironic, cause fring used to be like that, it did support video between mobile (syambian i guess for instance) and pc skype seamlessly. but because of skype they had to remove this option.
I patched skype apk and video call seems to be fine.
Haven't tried it on real use, because i dont use skype but seems ok to me (preview)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15227716&postcount=148
theos0o said:
I patched skype apk and video call seems to be fine.
Haven't tried it on real use, because i dont use skype but seems ok to me (preview)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15227716&postcount=148
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LOL! That was quick.
Not working for me here.... I'm just trying with Skype Test Call user, which video is not showing up as an option... Perhaps it would work with a real contact? not sure.
Ok, I guess i should read more closely... I uninstalled first, then reinstalled your patched version. I get a video call option now, but the video preview on my side is really messed up.... running Darky's 10.1 (JVH base)
I see 4 pictures of my self from the front facing camera, all on the horizontal view screen... each picture is distorted in shape and has white lines running horizontally through it..
Redth said:
Ok, I guess i should read more closely... I uninstalled first, then reinstalled your patched version. I get a video call option now, but the video preview on my side is really messed up.... running Darky's 10.1 (JVH base)
I see 4 pictures of my self from the front facing camera, all on the horizontal view screen... each picture is distorted in shape and has white lines running horizontally through it..
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That's a front-cam bug on some ROM/kernel combination.
Not problem of my apk, you can try front cam @ samsung's camera app. Should be messed up there too.
theos0o said:
I patched skype apk and video call seems to be fine.
Haven't tried it on real use, because i dont use skype but seems ok to me (preview)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15227716&postcount=148
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can you patch it to shut off the running service?
(and maybe the yahoo mail app while you're at it?)
ogami_ito said:
Its one of those things in which the network is the value. Skype is used for international business and communication. It works better than Google Talk (which also is not open I believe) for talk between China and USA. It works for making cheap international computer to phone calls.
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How exactly is it better for talk between China and USA? It's just like any video call software out there. Windows live messenger/yahoo/google/apple/logitech all work, to name a few.
And for phone calls, it's about the most expensive VoIP solution out there.
I use voip.ms, which is cheaper and works with open protocols. With my ATA I can call with a real phone, with my computer turned off. Works on android too.
tmzbeme said:
can you patch it to shut off the running service?
(and maybe the yahoo mail app while you're at it?)
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PM me with your exact requests, so I can try when I get more time.
But I don't promise anything, I'm not 100% good at it

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