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Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
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[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
ljinsane said:
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!
Youmail has a new beta for visual voicemail with the caller id picture and all.
the also have a beta for voicemail transcription which personally i like better than visual voicemail (when it is accurate ) Its send you a text message after the voivemail is received and transcribed to text.
Its got alot more cool features just check them out on the website.... just thought you guys might be interested.
Its all free check it out at WWW.YOUMAIL.COM
seems your provider will still charge u for fowarding calls
at&t hasn't charged me for forwarding
I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
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Ya, they charge you for the minutes you are connected to voicemail (through forwarding) but with all of its functionality i think it is worth it
crissg said:
I've been using YouMail for quite a while and am very pleased with it. It will suck hard when they come out of beta. I still haven't recovered completely from losing just about all of my Jott functionality.
The only thing I'd like is to be able to assign a button, either soft or hardware, to take me right to YouMail, instead of having to open a browser first. Anyone that can clue me in?
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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I think you could Create a .lnk file containg the browser and then i'm sure you could include a browser command (url link) to direct you to the website automatically. you would then just have to create a registry string for it and place it in the corresponding folder......
I'll do some looking around and see what i can find.
for now though you could just set it as your homepage and then when you open the browser it is already there
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Thanks for responding,
It stays at the top of my favorites page in SPB MS, so its like 4 taps to get to it from the Now screen.
Not terrible at all, but I've always wanted a way to get to IE favorites directly from the Today screen, or have them available the same way the MRU programs are. I appreciate you looking into it.
I left youmail
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
http://www.phonefusion.com/
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/009092...n_voicemail_g1
I used youmail for a while, but I was annoyed at a couple things, mostly that I have to download the email on my phone and then download the file, but still a good service.
I found the service above which is close to the same, except it actually is a .cab and the app is launched by the incoming txt and the messages are in a single screen. You can set to download automatically, and that way the app comes up and you can click directly to listen, basically 1 click because it comes up as a notification, like a missed call notification. Pretty cool.
They just came out with a version for the G1 Android that you can see the review on the mobility link, and the others are the main company and the top one is the voicemail. It's pretty easy to set up, and you can try and go back to youmail if it doesn't fit your needs. Also, you can change your greeting on this service, just call the number from your handset once you're set up online.
looks cool but phone fusion says it isn't free......
fusion voicemail plus says it is though?
which one are you using
Free Version
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
What I like about youmail is I can forward my email right to text and I never have to listen to VM. Looks like with phone fusion I only get caller ID info not the messages in the text. Is that right?
-McMex
ya.... but it gives you the "iphone" visual voicemail experience
just a little different setup
No Txt I know of
Correct McMex,
Youmail you get txt to read, but not in Fusion, at least not for free, and I didn't really review any other services from them . Txt just hasn't worked well for me on Youmail because it all looks jarbled, if it does for you that's great. Just another option to look at.
Youmail is working better these days. I have tried many of these services, and youmail is the cheapest, but I wouldnt say the best.
Thanks yes right now with youmail I get an email sent then forward the email and there is a lot of junk around the message in the text. I still prefer that to listening to VM. Thanks for the info guys.
-McMex
i was grandfathered in from the beta so i get the text for free so its not a bad deal for me
cparkhorn said:
http://www.fusionvoicemailplus.com/
This one is free. I started trying it this morning and I'm pretty happy with it. Your minutes are used, just like on youmail.
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I just started using YouMail as it doesn't require me to have an unlimited txt plan. Does Fusion require sms? I have it, but only a 200/month plan. I'm not thrilled about the idea of upgrading my sms plan just for a better voicemail.
Hi,
I've developed the app Group to Voicemail for Android and have come across an interesting issue that only occurs on HTC phones (from what I've heard):
When I programatically send a Contact to voicemail (using the SEND_TO_VOICEMAIL field for ContactsContract.Contacts), it works as expected. However, when I set that field back to '0' (to not send that Contact to voicemail anymore) the check box is unchecked for that Contact in the UI, but calls that come in still go to voicemail. The only way to actually put the change into effect is to reboot the phone (obviously not an acceptable solution for users)
Anyway, I've only seen this happen, and had reports from users that have HTC phones (Incredible and Evo). It works fine on the Motorola Droid as far as I can tell.
Based on some other tests, it seems to be directly related to SenseUI, and not the hardware itself. So, that begs that question, is there some other step that's required on the HTC phones but not the others? Or, is it required on both and I can just get away with not doing it on the Motorola phones, etc?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Matt
I really like the TMo Visual Voicemail and have tried to install. Every time it falils. Anyone know when this will be a working app.
Don't install from the market. It will fail because Visual Voicemail is already built in to the MT4G.
Go to the dialer, and on the bottom bar, there's a voicemail section. If you already have visual voicemail as a service, then you've got it.
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Don't install from the market. It will fail because Visual Voicemail is already built in to the MT4G.
Go to the dialer, and on the bottom bar, there's a voicemail section. If you already have visual voicemail as a service, then you've got it.
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Yes you are correct. But mine does not work...
Mine doesn't work either.
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have you set up your voicemail yet...i had this problem too, and it was driving me f'n crazy...til i listened to my voicemail the first and set up it...after that, i had my visual voicemail going
Did you go to the Settings under Visual Voicemail and enable it?
I had to call tmo customer service, since for some reason my visual voicemail wasn't checked as a service.
Go to t-mo website and make sure you have visual voicemail as a service listed under your account first.
You need to activate it on your phone. If that doesn't work. Make sure the market version is not installed, go to settings/applications/all, scroll down to find the visual voicemail app, select it then select delete data. That should clear things up but you'll probably need to activate it again in your phone dialer.
What happens? does it give you an error or no vmx listed in there?
Also you may want to try google voice, its free and it has some options that T-mobile VVM does not have.
Mine always tells me my phone is associated with another account. I bought it from the 800 number brand new.
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nmw407 said:
Don't install from the market. It will fail because Visual Voicemail is already built in to the MT4G.
Go to the dialer, and on the bottom bar, there's a voicemail section. If you already have visual voicemail as a service, then you've got it.
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You have to call TMOBILE and have it activated... it would not WORK on my mt4g either until I called them and had it activated on my phone.... I didnt keep it long though I went BACK to google voice, which in my opinion is clearly superior...
I was having the same problem you are describing, visual voicemail saying it was assoicated with another account. After 20 min with T-Mobile tech support their solution was to send me another MT4G. I have a bad feeling thats not going to fix it though.
jjlean said:
Mine always tells me my phone is associated with another account. I bought it from the 800 number brand new.
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Please post questions in Q&A section.
Received my "new" phone today. Visual voicemail is still broken, leading me to believe it is something on T-Mobiles end. Hoping someone else chimes in with the same problem and maybe a fix.
samsonpwnz said:
I was having the same problem you are describing, visual voicemail saying it was assoicated with another account. After 20 min with T-Mobile tech support their solution was to send me another MT4G. I have a bad feeling thats not going to fix it though.
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ditto - similar/same issue here since basically day one ... seems like when i cycle to Edge/2g network off of 3G/HSPA (i force it to Edge only when I'm at home to save battery since I have fast WiFi) - the visual voicemail more/less stops functioning ... a couple things that fix it (temporarily until the next time I go to Edge and/or restart) is to 1) press the menu button while in visual voicemail and go into settings and uncheck enable visual voicemail and then check it again ... after this is done - I often have to hit the menu button again and press 'sync' ... as long as you have a data connection this works much of the time. def seems to work better on 3G/HSPA than 2G/edge ... if that fails I .. 2) just restart the device ... after I do this - this is when I often see the 'this voicemail was associated with another account' or some crap message when I first click on visual voicemail .. but after re-enabling and syncing again - I'm always good to go..
a serious pain in the @$$ but luckily I've trained most everyone in my life on a diet of mostly email and text so voicemails to me are kind of becoming obsolete ... or I'd probably be more pissed..
IMHO, you should ditch the lousy VVM built in and give YouMail a try. It's free and has so many options. Like the ability to choose a different message based on who is calling, block certain callers etc...
Plus, YouMail has a great free app in the Market.
Mine wouldn't notify me when i had a new voicemail. I just use google voice now and no issues.
Same problem here, I keep getting the message "associated with other account". I already have VM activated, and already set it up on my phone. It's fairly random, as my VM will work normally for x number of days. Then all of a sudden I get that message.
VVM issues
I got my phone when it first came out and could not get vvm to work; I called tech support and they said at first it was on their end. A month went by and I called back and they said things were ok on their end, I had added VVM to my account, and then they (2 different people) tried to get me to download from the market even tho the app is built into the mt4g.
I had enabled vvm when I first got the phone and never worked. So this time, I went into settings (open dialer, choose vvm tab, hit menu button) and disabled it, which then did not allow me to get back into settings. So, from home screen, hit menu, settings, manage applications and found visual voicemail and I believe hit button to clear cache and then rebooted my phone. I went back to vvm under dialer, checked the settings and it has worked ever since....hope this may help someone.
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I got my phone when it first came out and could not get vvm to work; I called tech support and they said at first it was on their end. A month went by and I called back and they said things were ok on their end, I had added VVM to my account, and then they (2 different people) tried to get me to download from the market even tho the app is built into the mt4g.
I had enabled vvm when I first got the phone and never worked. So this time, I went into settings (open dialer, choose vvm tab, hit menu button) and disabled it, which then did not allow me to get back into settings. So, from home screen, hit menu, settings, manage applications and found visual voicemail and I believe hit button to clear cache and then rebooted my phone. I went back to vvm under dialer, checked the settings and it has worked ever since....hope this may help someone.
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are you sure it was clear cache? because my cache shows 0.00B and as such can't clear anything (button is greyed out) ... are you sure it's not clear DATA?
i've heard of people having problems clearing the data on certain programs and having to hard/factory reset which i would REALLY hate to do at this point just to 'try' something out ..... ?
Thanks for this tip. YouMail is awesome!
CBConsultation said:
IMHO, you should ditch the lousy VVM built in and give YouMail a try. It's free and has so many options. Like the ability to choose a different message based on who is calling, block certain callers etc...
Plus, YouMail has a great free app in the Market.
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Can someone comment on whether visual voicemail works outside of the T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app IF I DISABLE the T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app (using package disabler)?
I noticed the Samsung phone app has visual voicemail, is it going to work if I disable the Tmo app?
Thanks!
I figured it out after about an hour of testing.
The stock Samsung phone app's Visual Voicemail works fine, so it's perfectly safe to delete Tmo's voicemail app. BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT you have to first open Tmo's app, allow everything, and get it all set up (e.g. get past everything so that you're able to listen to an actual voicemail). Probably load one voicemail just to be safe. Then it's OK to delete the app and just rely on the Visual Voicemail and notification functionality of Samsung's stock phone app.
Turns out that's wrong and it's still a cluster****. It worked, but if you restart the phone it's broken again. If anyone figures it out please leave a reply as this thread will likely be viewed by people over the next year or so.
The Samsung ROM has visual voicemail built in, and it's specifically Tmo's visual voicemail functionality on this Tmo variant model. So it should do visual voicemail fine without the branded T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app which is so non-necessary that it even lets you uninstall it.
only v voice mail that i have is t mobile v voice mail. i don't have any other additional apps for v voice mail. Why do you want to remove t mobile version?
I'm on TMobile and I got TMobile's variant of the S8 Plus. When I press the VM button in the dialer, it just calls the VM number. What does your Samsung ROM VVM look like? Are you on TMobile's variant?
Is it possible to use the native Samsung dialer visual voicemail or not? I take it not possible like it is on ATT?