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Difference from .exe installation and .cab ...

Hi guys,
I think I don't understand the difference between the desktop (.exe) installation and the .cab installation for a ppc programs....
Is there a possibility to install the program in a dir. of the SD? For example, I'd like to create a dir called "Program files" in the SD.
P.S: How can I change the default location for programs installation from device memeory to SD?

Use cabinst (search on google) to install cabs from PPC to different folders - essential tool!
You need registry tweaks to change the default folder, although this isn't really advisable. See Tweaks2k (i think) for this. But with cabinst, not required!
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Thanks!
If I understand well... I have to install at first cabinstl on my Jam and after that I must use .cab installation!!? (I have to copy cab file in to particolar path of SD or?)
Using .exe install is not possible?

The .exes you download from sites wil (almost always) be for installation on the PC. You double click that, that'll load up activesync and install that way.
The other way is to copy the .cab to your pocketpc and double click. That will install, but gives little control over custom folders to install to and will also delete the .cab after install.
However, after installing cabinst you can double click on .cabs on the PPC and install anywhere.
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Yeah! With cabinst I can instll app on my own "Program Files" dir in SD...
That's nice but I can't find all the app I have to install in CAB format so... my question is if is there any method to put the files on a specific dir from .exe installation..
Many thanks guys!

if you've got the .exe for the pc, double click it WITHOUT your pda connected. Activesync will load up and you'll get the Add/remove programs screen, saying the program will be installed next time you connect your pda.
Then, on your pc, you have to hunt around for the cab.
I use a program called filetracer to find files, but generally try looking in (I think, I'm not in front of my pc right now) C:\program files\Microsoft active sync\ (or something like that). There you should find folders, eg
\spb\Weather Panel (that's not a real example!).
Dig through there, and you should find eg
Arm_VJStuff.cab.
This is the file you need.
Sometimes you'll get a bunch of numbered files. eg If you see one like
2577_vjstuff.cab amongst other numbered files, the 2577 is the one you want (2577 refers to ARM, the chip in your PDA).
Copy that cab file to your desktop or wherever you want to store it, and copy a copy to your PDA. When you connect up your PDA activesync will ask if you want to install the installation you aborted earlier. Just cancel it.
From there, just install on your PDA with cabinst!
Sounds complicated, but you'll get the hang of it very quickly!
I keep all of my cabs in a folder for installation from hardreset very quickly.
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Sounds good!!! :wink:
Thanks!

Big storage rom upgrade

I have just installed this on I-jam. Thank you for the rom. I now seem to be missing the program which allowed me to assign photos and backgrounds to contacts. Is there any way of getting this back or can you recommend another program I can use in its place?

The advantage of the Big Storage hack is that the storage area is now accessible for other purposes and that you can select which softare to install from the Extended ROM. You'll find various Extended ROM versions in the ftp server. The cab file that you are looking for is called Caller ID.

I am trying to install the phone dialler software but is comes up with iacaller.dll in use, how do i install it, any help appreciated..

phonepad
can anyone tell me how to uninstall this please

in order to remove the iacaller.dll from use, try removing it from your \windows\startup folder, then soft-reset. Then you should be able to run the cab file. However there will be several other *.dll that need to be replaced but are read-only. What you have to do is manually rename those to something else (I just put a OLD_ in front of the name). Do this either through the the activesync explorer or you can select to "view all files" from your pocket pc file explorer. I don't remember the ones that need to be renamed, I had a list but who knows where it is now... So you'll have to rename them one by one as the device prompts you. so for example it'll say name.dll is in use cannot copy - remember the name of the file, exit the installer (or most likely the installer will exit itself) then go into the \windows folder, locate the file, rename it to OLD_XXX.dll then run the cab again. Repeat as necessary. Good luck.

Installing CAB files.

how do I install a CAB file directly to the phone?

just copy the cab file to ur Storage card through a memory reader. then start the CAB file from File Explorer
OR
Connect the Phone by its USB Connection. and then copy the file to any folder on device memory then choose the CAB file from the file explorer.
Easy Enjoy

Is there a setting to keep the cab, now it deletes it after isntalling.

Riel said:
Is there a setting to keep the cab, now it deletes it after isntalling.
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Not sure on you're specific phone, but with the Hermes/Kaiser there is a settings somewhere NOT to delete the file when installed.
I have a folder on the MicroSD card called "Install" that has all the CABs to get it working after a hard reset. The only thing I don't have are my phone contacts and the like
One day I'll get there though....
Thinking about it there could be a field in one of the many tweaking tools for the UI

wm6 does not delete cabs after install. this happened to me on wm5. don't know how to disable that feature

Elwyn M3100 said:
NThe only thing I don't have are my phone contacts and the like
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usually activesync saves your contacts & when u do HR just name ur ppc back to the last name u used, then contacts should be added back to your contact list on the ppc.
another thing is to use pim backup software like pim backup which is free here: (can save emails/sms/mms as well!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705

When I extract a cab file (and put it on my xda ii - wm6.1 rom) it is just an .xml file. When I open it on my laptop or xda ii it just comes up with html.
How do I get the cab to install?

If a cab is deleted after installtion, you can use Schap's Advance Config Tool to disable that.

Tippex said:
When I extract a cab file (and put it on my xda ii - wm6.1 rom) it is just an .xml file. When I open it on my laptop or xda ii it just comes up with html.
How do I get the cab to install?
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You've 'extracted' too far. Programs like WinZip and WinRar by default list 'cab' files as archives. There is nowt wrong with this, as they are in a way. Except in this instance you don't want to see them as such.
Copy the .cab files to your PDA and install from there. Once the .cab files are on your PDA they are treated like an executable.
Got it

Question from beginner! How to install programs?

Hi guys. First of all, I'm new to WMO. I've downloaded Gyrator 2, PCMKeyboard, and the TuneUp file. Now, I've transfered these to the phone, both on the SD-card, and in the internal memory. However, when I try to run them, from File Explorer, it opens them in what I think, is Opera. And the screen stays white, nothing happens. This goes for all the files. Can anyone explain me, in an easy way, how you do this?

you could be reading the link in my sig and let me know if it helps...

Thanks - but that didn't help. I actually did it exactly like you wrote it.
For those of you with Gyrator 2 installed, this is what happens to me:
I copy it to the storage card, then open the gyrator file. Files list up, like this:
_setup
00Events
0Gyrator
0Gyrator
And much more. The only file working, is of course the _setup file, which shows with a Opera-ikon, for some reason. So, if I try to run the _setup, a white screen appears, and nothing happens. If I try to run any of the other files, which shows with a Windows-ikon, I get an error, telling me to first open Gyrator 2, then run the file via the program.

For running gyrator you need also Net compact framework 3.5 installed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2951158
I've installed gyrator in this way:
copied the gyrator install file to storage card
run the file using file explorer
after that I've installed also Net compact framework from the link above in the same way

dreja said:
For running gyrator you need also Net compact framework 3.5 installed.
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It does indeed (I'll update the wiki page, cheers for that )
Bungieman - the SD tuneup .cab doesn't need it though - what happens when you try to run that?

Same thing, two files, one with "_setup", which has a Opera - ikon.

If this were PC windows, I'd say that somehow the .cab files had been associated to the wrong program.
Clicking a .cab ought to run it, not open it up and show you what is inside!
There should be no need to run the _setup manually - simply clicking the .cab should take care of all that...
I take it you haven't managed to install anything yet?
The HD is as it arrived in the box?

I had similar issue with another program. I saw opera setup icon, run it and there was only white screen in opera browser...
What I did wrong, was that I unpacked the .cab file on the phone's card - the PC showed me that it is packed file, like .zip or .rar and I extracted it to the phone.
So I had only to copy .cab file to phone's memory card and run it there (using file explorer) without extracting it. Then the program installed succesfully

You do know that you can just use your phones browser, find the file and click on it and then save it direct to your SD card? Much easier and then you just go to file explorer and click on the file and it installs. That is as long as it is a cab file, if its a msi file like the net framework thing is then you need to run it from your pc with ur phone connnected.

The reason why Opera being brought up running the "_setup.xml", is you don't need to extract the contents in the .cab file to begin the installation..
Just copy the .cab file to the SD card and run it thru File Explorer.
If you're not sure if it's a .cab file, open it in WinRAR to see the Address Bar what it shows, or turn on the option in the Windows Explorer for showing file extensions..

Back up WM Apps from the WM Market

There isn't really a General section for Windows Mobile, so I'm placing this thread here. If it needs to be moved, I'm sure a mod will handle it.
Like many of you, I recently received the e-mail about the Windows Mobile Market shutting down. I'm glad I never actually used the market, but some of you may not be so lucky.
For anyone who didn't already know this, Here's how you back up your downloaded apps to make into cabs:
You're going to need Total Commander for this since it's easy to work with.
1. Uninstall your Marketplace downloaded apps.
2. Open Total Commander and navigate to \Application Data\Volatile\
3. Open the Market, and go to the first app you want.
*****BE VERY QUICK ABOUT THIS NEXT PART*****
The amount of time you have is dependent on the size of the application.
4. Hit the install button, then quickly switch back to Total Commander.
5. There should now be a file in there called "setup.xml" (it might be setup.txt - I can't remember). Copy that file to your SD card. Just put it anywhere you'll remember. This file disappears from the "\Volatile\" directory as soon as the installation is complete.
6. This file contains all the setup info for the application. It will tell you all the files installed, and where each registry value is placed.
7. Find the files, and make yourself a cab.
I wrote this out from memory. Hopefully it's all correct. Sorry if I'm off by a bit. Thankfully, I saw the death of WM coming ahead of time and never bothered to purchase anything from there.

I realize that not everyone knows how to make a cab. Fortunately, I still have my legit copy of WinCE Cab Manager. I stress legit, since it was widely pirated.
If you need help creating a cab of a program you bought from the WM Market, please provide the files in a zip file, and I'll construct one for you. You must include the setup.xml file in addition to all the files that get installed during the process of installing from the market.
Before anyone asks, the answer is no, I will not provide a copy of my licensed version of WinCE CM. Buy it yourself, or use another program.

There's also a bit less difficult way to get your files backed up.
1: get the DarkCabCatcher FIXED version from http://blog.idlezone.org/post/2010/01/11/Windows-Mobile-MarketPlace-:-choose-where-to-install
(I didn't make the app, just found it and used the following steps.
2: config it like the post says.
3: open up total commander or file explorer
4: load up some task manager that you can open with a hardware button or screen hotzone. (I use arkswitch)
5: wait for the installation window to appear that you normally get when you're installing a .cab file
6: switch to your file manager, and rename the .cab file that's there, possibly even copy it to a new folder.
7: cancel the install
8: verify that your backed up .cab file is still there
9: enjoy.
I know it's a bit longer, but you don't need to use any software but a .cab file copier.

pizzaboy192 said:
There's also a bit less difficult way to get your files backed up.
1: get the DarkCabCatcher FIXED version from http://blog.idlezone.org/post/2010/01/11/Windows-Mobile-MarketPlace-:-choose-where-to-install
(I didn't make the app, just found it and used the following steps.
2: config it like the post says.
3: open up total commander or file explorer
4: load up some task manager that you can open with a hardware button or screen hotzone. (I use arkswitch)
5: wait for the installation window to appear that you normally get when you're installing a .cab file
6: switch to your file manager, and rename the .cab file that's there, possibly even copy it to a new folder.
7: cancel the install
8: verify that your backed up .cab file is still there
9: enjoy.
I know it's a bit longer, but you don't need to use any software but a .cab file copier.
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Have you tried this out before? It looks like a perfect solution, but it is very old. This was made before the Market allowed installations to the SD card. This was prior to 2010, I believe. If it still works, then this is excellent!

cajunflavoredbob said:
Have you tried this out before? It looks like a perfect solution, but it is very old. This was made before the Market allowed installations to the SD card. This was prior to 2010, I believe. If it still works, then this is excellent!
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Works perfectly. The reason you need to rename the .cab file is because the program is designed to delete the copied one and searches for any files of the same name. If you rename it, it can't find it.
I used this method last week to get it to backup. It worked nicely.

pizzaboy192 said:
Works perfectly. The reason you need to rename the .cab file is because the program is designed to delete the copied one and searches for any files of the same name. If you rename it, it can't find it.
I used this method last week to get it to backup. It worked nicely.
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That's good news. I'll flash one of my spare devices and make a quick tutorial on this with pictures tomorrow or Wednesday. Thanks for the information.

I'd love to do this with my paid apps so if I flash or hard reset my phone I can restore them. The only problem is, I'm just kind of lazy