UPDATE: I have tested this build with a "virgin" GMail account, and the entire Donut Market shows up just fine!
If you're using Donut for the first time, I recommend download the file from my link here, until it gets posted on the vogue-hero site. At that point, I will be taking this link down, so as not to convolute things.
Download here: http://code.google.com/p/vogue-hero/
Hopefully Zenulator will grab this fixed system.sqsh and put it up on his vogue-hero google code page so that this bug doesn't affect anyone further.
Of course credit to this build goes 99% to Zenulator, as all I did was take his donut build modify a file here and a permission there.
ANOTHER UPDATE: Good news folks, after logging into this build with my "virgin" GMail account, and downloading a bunch of Market apps, I went back to my "corrupted" GMail account, and the Market all showed up like it should. Hurrah! Step by step, here's what I did:
- Loaded up this build
- Logged in with an uncorrupted GMail account (that is, an account that had never logged into Donut before)
- Loaded up the Market, downloaded a bunch of apps and games I wanted
- Went to Home-> Settings-> Applications-> Manage Applications
- Cleared the data/cache for the following apps: GMail, GMail Storage, GoogleApps, Google Settings Provider
- Did a Force Quit on the Market app (but did NOT clear the cache... I don't know how important this step is, but it's what I did)
- Clicked on GMail, and since I had cleared the cache/data, it asked me to sign into my Google Account again, so I used my previous, corrupted GMail account
- Went back to Market, and everything was there.
Thanks, craig0r! *waits*
craig0r said:
As some people have noticed, on the latest donut-ion build, when you go into the Market, you only see 20-30 apps and games. And even when you go back into Cupcake, this issue remains, unless you create a new GMail account and use that. But who wants to migrate their gmail accounts and inform all their contacts that they've got a new email address. No one, that's who.
So, I've managed to make a new donut build that *appears* to have fixed the Donut Market losing all but 20-30 apps. I'm scrolling through "All Applications" and watching more and more apps load right now. I will post this build shortly, I want to test it out a bit. Also, I've just done a couple of other fixes that I think may fix the remaining audio issues. Then again, it may not. Once I've tested these things, I'll put it up somewhere and update this thread.
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Sweet a$$.... if Market + Audio gets fixed the only real remaining issue is end button (home, then sleep doesn't work). Can't wait!!!
Alright... it's not as exciting as I first though. Yes, as soon as I loaded the new build up I had a lot more apps in the Market. I thought this to mean everything was magically fixed. It's not. However, as someone mentioned in another thread, the apps seem to come back slowly over time, as long as you're using the Donut build. I'm not sure if this build accelerates that process or not. If you've been affected by the Donut Market Corruption bug, I suggest trying this build out and seeing if it makes a difference for you, and report back here. I pulled the fingerprint setting from a Sapphire donut build that seems to have a working Market.
That being said, this build *MIGHT* fix the Donut Market for anyone using Donut for the first time. If anyone has a second GMail account that they want to test this build with (a Donut-virgin GMail account) I would love to hear feedback as to whether the entire Market shows up properly.
Here's the link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/289872967/system-donut-market-fix.sqsh
*NOTE: The audio fixes I was trying to implement need to be applied to the rootfs. I'm waiting to hear back from zenulator about the command I should use to re-create the rootfs.img file... unless there's someone else who knows what command I should use.
there's no commands to rebuild it.
Simply make a mount
mkdir /mnt/rootfs
Mount it
mount -o loop rootfs.img /mnt/rootfs
add or replace whichever files you need, donut libs go in their own folder, and unmount
umount /mnt/rootfs.
Whammo, you're done.
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there's no commands to rebuild it.
Simply make a mount
mkdir /mnt/rootfs
Mount it
mount -o loop rootfs.img /mnt/rootfs
add or replace whichever files you need, donut libs go in their own folder, and unmount
umount /mnt/rootfs.
Whammo, you're done.
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The issue is that I'm adding a file to the rootfs, and it tells me "No space left on device" so it seems like I have to rebuild it.
than you need to remove some stuff, if it's just lib's your changing you just have to add them to the system/lib folder and delete the ones in the rootfs lib folder.
thanks for the fix craig0r i'll take a look and put it up at vogue-hero.
than you need to remove some stuff, if it's just lib's your changing you just have to add them to the system/lib folder and delete the ones in the rootfs lib folder.
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Does vice versa work, too? I mean if i got the libs in the rootfs are they needed in the systen image? Or can i remove them to save place?
JeckyllHavok said:
Does vice versa work, too? I mean if i got the libs in the rootfs are they needed in the systen image? Or can i remove them to save place?
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I'm not sure about that specifically, but I tried moving libsoundpool.so (which I saw errors about during a logcat) into rootfs/lib/donut, and it just caused more issues. So if that's what you were planning on doing, I wouldn't worry about it.
Someone else can probably answer your question better though. From my limited experience with rootfs, moving libraries between rootfs and system arbitrarily seems to cause boot problems. At least in my case.
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ANOTHER UPDATE: Good news folks, after logging into this build with my "virgin" GMail account, and downloading a bunch of Market apps, I went back to my "corrupted" GMail account, and the Market all showed up like it should. Hurrah! Step by step, here's what I did:
- Loaded up this build
- Logged in with an uncorrupted GMail account (that is, an account that had never logged into Donut before)
- Loaded up the Market, downloaded a bunch of apps and games I wanted
- Went to Home-> Settings-> Applications-> Manage Applications
- Cleared the data/cache for the following apps: GMail, GMail Storage, GoogleApps, Google Settings Provider
- Did a Force Quit on the Market app (but did NOT clear the cache... I don't know how important this step is, but it's what I did)
- Clicked on GMail, and since I had cleared the cache/data, it asked me to sign into my Google Account again, so I used my previous, corrupted GMail account
- Went back to Market, and everything was there.
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I created a new account instead of signing in with an existing account and the market definitely has more apps, but it still does not look like all of them. Can someone tell me how many apps they are seeing under "communication"? I am only seeing 4 apps. I see nothing in comics, health, news, shopping and themes and I see one app in some of the other categories. Is this what the rest of you are seeing? Should I be patient because more may start showing up over the next few days?
I am going to try the rest of your walkthru and see if I can get at least this many apps on my regular google account.
UPDATE: I logged in with my regular google account and was able to see the same number of apps as my test account. I did notice that a couple of apps (Appmanager, Locale, Sudoku Free, and SportsTap) got added to my market. These are apps that I've had installed/downloaded in cupcake. So now I have two apps (SportsTap and Wapedia) listed on the main "Featured" screen. I am really hoping that more get added.
skajaqueda said:
I created a new account instead of signing in with an existing account and the market definitely has more apps, but it still does not look like all of them. Can someone tell me how many apps they are seeing under "communication"? I am only seeing 4 apps. I see nothing in comics, health, news, shopping and themes and I see one app in some of the other categories. Is this what the rest of you are seeing? Should I be patient because more may start showing up over the next few days?
I am going to try the rest of your walkthru and see if I can get at least this many apps on my regular google account.
UPDATE: I logged in with my regular google account and was able to see the same number of apps as my test account. I did notice that a couple of apps (Appmanager, Locale, Sudoku Free, and SportsTap) got added to my market. These are apps that I've had installed/downloaded in cupcake. So now I have two apps (SportsTap and Wapedia) listed on the main "Featured" screen. I am really hoping that more get added.
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Well, presuming that your test account had never logged into Donut before on the Vogue, the only other thing I can think of is that it might be location and/or carrier related. Where are you located and who's your provider? Maybe someone else in your region can verify.
I'm on Telus in Canada, and I get the whole market with this method, with the exception of the paid apps. Once Market Enabler works with Donut, we should be able to get the paid apps too.
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Well, presuming that your test account had never logged into Donut before on the Vogue, the only other thing I can think of is that it might be location and/or carrier related. Where are you located and who's your provider? Maybe someone else in your region can verify.
I'm on Telus in Canada, and I get the whole market with this method, with the exception of the paid apps. Once Market Enabler works with Donut, we should be able to get the paid apps too.
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I am on Verizon in the Northeast US (Connecticut).
skajaqueda said:
I am on Verizon in the Northeast US (Connecticut).
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Well hopefully someone else on Verizon in the US can give us some info on this.
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Well hopefully someone else on Verizon in the US can give us some info on this.
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hey, sorry i never pm'd you back. so was it a setting in the build.prop or what?? i would like to implement this into other builds as well. now i only see 18 apps in every build i run. thanks
jamezelle said:
hey, sorry i never pm'd you back. so was it a setting in the build.prop or what?? i would like to implement this into other builds as well. now i only see 18 apps in every build i run. thanks
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as long as you have release keys in the build.prop you should be good. you're account is prob already affected by the bug and thats why all the apps aren't showing even in non donut builds. hero/ion based builds should already have release keys. also i already had a donut build out with release keys but didn't push it because the ion build was faster i just didn't realize it had the test keys still in there because my market was already messed up. the fix does work for new accounts and old accounts that weren't showing that many apps now show more but still not all of them.
zenulator said:
as long as you have release keys in the build.prop you should be good. you're account is prob already affected by the bug and thats why all the apps aren't showing even in non donut builds. hero/ion based builds should already have release keys. also i already had a donut build out with release keys but didn't push it because the ion build was faster i just didn't realize it had the test keys still in there because my market was already messed up. the fix does work for new accounts and old accounts that weren't showing that many apps now show more but still not all of them.
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So, if we get an Android phone and use our current account on it would it show only some of the apps or is this just in our builds?
fireshaper said:
So, if we get an Android phone and use our current account on it would it show only some of the apps or is this just in our builds?
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Until one of us gets a real Android phone, we can only speculate. I am getting one next month, and will be sure to keep the community informed.
fireshaper said:
So, if we get an Android phone and use our current account on it would it show only some of the apps or is this just in our builds?
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i'm pretty sure you'll see all the apps since your paying for the google experience if not a call to the right places will fix the situation.
craig0r said:
Until one of us gets a real Android phone, we can only speculate. I am getting one next month, and will be sure to keep the community informed.
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I am planning on getting one next month too, that's why I ask Moto Sholes/Tao/Droid FTW!
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It was suggested that we start a thread specifically for the apps that run well on the Android port to the HTC Touch/Vogue. I personally own an (Sprint=CDMA) HTC Touch Diamond, but upon seeing the maturity level of Android running on the Touch, I immediately went to eBay and picked up the Touch handset...and I am glad I did. The only reason I boot back to winmo is for work calendar (Lotus), Skype (iSkoot kinda sucks), and Podcasts (hopefully we getting DoggCatcher soon).I've found that battery life with Togga on to be about 8-10 hours which I can live with it, but it's a pain to keep toggling if you really need to conserve (but it could be worse )I plan on posting more battery data soon, but need a few more days of collection. Hopefully we can find a more permanent way of managing the data connection with balance for battery life.
You can find many apps on http://slideme.org/, AndAppStore (both have phone clients - very market-like) and by searching ".apk" on 4shared.com
The apps I have found to run well on my CDMA with dzo/f00bar's (much respect) latest files:
-Scoreboard - I'm not that big of a sports fan, but this app is slick!
-aLastFM - Just got permission to post the link from the developer. Thanks Oleg!!
-Stocker - Simple but effective stock app, but no graphs. If someone could find a better one...
-Weather - Simple, but effective. Multiple Cities, current and forecast, with menu link to detailed outlook including radar from Undergroud Weather.
-AnyCut -Great for making shortcuts to just about any screen in the OS, especially useful for Battery and Sounds&Display
-TextEasy - for sending a text to multiple contacts, until someone can get a hold of ChomperSMS or K9SMS (K9Mail I have not gotten to work either, we need a better mail app, the native client doesn't even recognize URLS, wtf?!)
-OIFileManager - It's the only one I've tried, so can't comment on the others, but there are several out there. UPDATE: I tried out Astro and Glance. I liked Astro, but after a day it stopped working for me and gives me a force quit. I prefer Glance over OI FileManager, it's on 4shared I believe.
-OIFlashlight - amazing how handy this comes in
-OINewsReader - No frills RSS aggregator
-ShopSavvy - Did you say "We'll match any price"?...but be fast with your fingers, camera is not fine enough to capture the barcode
UPDATE:
I wanted to add SMS PopUp as another great app. You can find it along with a bunch of other APKs here. One of the G1 owners that grabbed all of the apps and is hosting them for download.
WANTED:
-DoggCatcher - for my daily podcast fix
-A true Skype client
-HEADPHONE SUPPORT!!
Please post replies with your own favorite apps that run well on this port (with links, please!)
Cheers!
Wow, no replies?!
I'm looking for SMS PopUp if anyone can post a link.
Cheers!
The Meebo app is well worth a look - look for it on 4shared.com. Lets you IM on just about any IM network (Yahoo, MSN, AIM etc). IMs appear in the notification bar while you are in any other program. Great stuff.
I believe im the only person hosting the meebo.apk at the moment.
Meebo Instant Messenger:
http://jonsingh.com/android/files/meebo.apk
I did recieve the "ok" from the meebo!
thanks
Jon
steve98 said:
The Meebo app is well worth a look - look for it on 4shared.com. Lets you IM on just about any IM network (Yahoo, MSN, AIM etc). IMs appear in the notification bar while you are in any other program. Great stuff.
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i installed and signed into my MSN account, however, just a white screen shows up. No list of contacts, etc. No menu options other than to add another account or sign off. Not exactly useful (at least this version). Is anyone using this successfully?
EDIT: I received a chat, and that gave me a buddy online, maybe no one on my list was signed on at the time I first checked.
Also, it doesnt remember your username and password, which is annoying because it randomly closed on me after tapping the notification in the bar during a chat session today. I'll keep looking for a better app or updated version.
Ideal2545 said:
I believe im the only person hosting the meebo.apk at the moment.
Meebo Instant Messenger:
http://jonsingh.com/android/files/meebo.apk
I did recieve the "ok" from the meebo!
thanks
Jon
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you might be the only one who got the 'ok' from meebo but as i said, it can be found on 4shared.com also.
What about an updated version of Shopsavvy. Mine keeps saying there is a new version, but of course we can't update off the marketplace.
I'm looking for the Locale application. Even though we don't have GPS running, Locale still alows profile switching based on time and days of the week, which would be useful for office vs. non-office settings. If someone could post this I would appreciate it!
how do i install apps i have them saved to the storage card i just dont know how to load them up, sorry if this is a dumb question
thoughtlesskyle said:
how do i install apps i have them saved to the storage card i just dont know how to load them up, sorry if this is a dumb question
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If they are in the AndroidApps folder then they should be installed already. I found that sometimes icons don't show up to launch the program, however. This is where AnyCut comes in handy. Use AnyCut to search in "Activities" to find your app. If you are not seeing it in this list then you may have to "manually" install the app. Open a file browser such as OI File Manager or Glance and navigate to your AndroidApps folder. Click on the .apk file and it should launch teh app installer.
Hope this helps.
Any word on aLastFM?
etx said:
Any word on aLastFM?
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See the update first post.
Scoreboard.apk
I am very interested in the Scoreboard app, I got it running fine, but the other day the game I added to my favorite never really gave me updates until the game was over by a few hours.
Isnt this application able to provide real-time results?
I am having more success simply by going to www.nhl.com :-S
Thanks for aLastFM!
I was looking around and found another 4shared user with a bunch of APK's!
http://www.4shared.com/dir/11234070/20e0c1f0/sharing.html
Someone in the main topic said something about an ebay app. What is it and is it any good? Is it secure? It'd be nice to have for me.
There's been a couple apps I liked that didn't fit our screen plus having to reinstall android files often I lose all my saved info so it doesn't work out for me. Sprint needs to hurry up with an HTC Android phone.
Maybe a stupid question, not sure... Why can't someone extract the android market application from the G1 to be used on other phones? Seems a bit odd of Google to limit the market to only a specific phone.
There is a discussion about the marketplace on the big long forum. The marketplace is not open source. They're talking about the commands and encryption and such for it. I'd think it's not open because they plan on having pay for apps but I could be wrong
G1 Central
This is a must have for any one with a Grand Central account- G1 Central
http://evancharlton.com/projects/g1central
Allows you to place calls and check voicemail for your GrandCentral account. Pretty much allows for unlimited free calling. Works great on my friends G1.
Still missing a few features.. like the ability to call contacts that are only in your GC account, but still very good.
Heres the problem.. it crashes when trying to dial out on the Vogue!!! Ahhh!
So close to beating the telecoms... If anyone knows anything about error codes or how to get this working, I might have a GrandCentral account invite...
megalewis said:
I am very interested in the Scoreboard app, I got it running fine, but the other day the game I added to my favorite never really gave me updates until the game was over by a few hours.
Isnt this application able to provide real-time results?
I am having more success simply by going to www.nhl.com :-S
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I noticed this also. i resolved by changing my time zone in settings. Only problem is that this then modifies your "synced" time with your carrier, it adjusts + or - according to your time zone, so you have to comensate...each time you boot. Not by any means an elegant solution, but if you need realtime scores this is the answer. Probably better off sticking with NHL.com
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Someone in the main topic said something about an ebay app. What is it and is it any good? Is it secure? It'd be nice to have for me.
There's been a couple apps I liked that didn't fit our screen plus having to reinstall android files often I lose all my saved info so it doesn't work out for me. Sprint needs to hurry up with an HTC Android phone.
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I tried the "Ebay.apk" from 4Shared, but it doesn't display properly. The tabs extend all the way to the bottom of the other screen which is a common problem for us vogue port users.
I thinking about buying an application but wanted to know where the program is stored.
If I were to upgrade or change my android build would the application follow? Does the market place keep track of my purchases and lets me download it again or do I need to place it in a particular folder?
Thanks.
you would need a back up program but if u purchase a paid app from market you will find it in your downloads area
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I thinking about buying an application but wanted to know where the program is stored.
If I were to upgrade or change my android build would the application follow? Does the market place keep track of my purchases and lets me download it again or do I need to place it in a particular folder?
Thanks.
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The way the android market handles this, is when you purchase an app, it links it to your google account indefinitely.
The reason for this, is for when you upgrade your device firmware, lose your phone, and purchase a new android device on any network (sprint, verizon, t-mobile, at&t, yada yada) you may get all of your paid apps back on your new device, or new firmware.
So, as long as you use the same google account to log in to your device (I don't know why you wouldn't because you can store all your contacts in the cloud on your gmail account), you will be able to get your previously paid android apps at no additional cost.
Have fun, and enjoy those paid apps out there. There are some good ones.
_-cooper-_
Paid apps don't appear when switching build
I'm actually a bit concerned about this.
I've been using mdeejay's Revolution for a few weeks, and decided to take the plunge an purchase the apps I use the most.
A couple of days ago, I installed desire_cs in parallel for experimenting. I dual boot between these two with no problem.
However, after associating the same account with Market in desire_cs, I do *not* see my paid apps.
I've tried various tricks (restore the Market data with Ti-backup, clear Market data, dial '*#*#CHECKIN#*#*', copy the fingerprint in build.prop, just wait online). My Downloads list remains empty, and Market behaves as if I need to purchase the apps again. Google Checkout (on the web) clearly shows that my purchases are valid.
Booting back to the MDJ build, everything looks dandy.
I tried restoring a backup of a paid app from the MDJ build into the desire_cs build. This works OK, but Market still does not flag the app as purchased.
This makes me hesitate to purchase any more apps - though I know Ti-backup will probably be able to preserve my MDJ setup for me, I will need to manually check for updates to the paid apps, and will probably need to aquire them from shady corners of the net.
Is this a fluke or one-time-thing with the build(s) I've tried, or will it happen with all builds? Can anyone say that purchases in general transfer fine between builds? (I assume the latter is the case, otherwise I'd have seen more complaints in these forums.)
Thanks for your time!
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I'm actually a bit concerned about this.
I've been using mdeejay's Revolution for a few weeks, and decided to take the plunge an purchase the apps I use the most.
A couple of days ago, I installed desire_cs in parallel for experimenting. I dual boot between these two with no problem.
However, after associating the same account with Market in desire_cs, I do *not* see my paid apps.
I've tried various tricks (restore the Market data with Ti-backup, clear Market data, dial '*#*#CHECKIN#*#*', copy the fingerprint in build.prop, just wait online). My Downloads list remains empty, and Market behaves as if I need to purchase the apps again. Google Checkout (on the web) clearly shows that my purchases are valid.
Booting back to the MDJ build, everything looks dandy.
I tried restoring a backup of a paid app from the MDJ build into the desire_cs build. This works OK, but Market still does not flag the app as purchased.
This makes me hesitate to purchase any more apps - though I know Ti-backup will probably be able to preserve my MDJ setup for me, I will need to manually check for updates to the paid apps, and will probably need to aquire them from shady corners of the net.
Is this a fluke or one-time-thing with the build(s) I've tried, or will it happen with all builds? Can anyone say that purchases in general transfer fine between builds? (I assume the latter is the case, otherwise I'd have seen more complaints in these forums.)
Thanks for your time!
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Gotta be some kind of a fluke, I have restored/updated apps countless times from build to build using the Downloads section of the Market. They have always showed up for me, I still have paid apps from my Tilt2 days that I d/l and update from the market.
Only thing I can think of for your case is maybe a difference in Market region between your two builds. Maybe if you use Market Enabler to change your Market region in your new build?
But before going on an app buying spree, I would install a new build or two, and experiment. Who knows, it's possible you may just have really bad luck or Google hates you
Strange...it has to be a fluke. I've bought many apps and I'm a builoholic...always changing (monster ADD) and the APPs are always waiting in downloads. The exception to this is the full version of launcher pro which I bought in app and paid for through paypal...
I'm with huggs in guessing its a region issue. Try Market Enabler and let us know what happens...kinda interested in the outcome.
You should be able to re-activate them with the google purchase transaction number (like I did with CoPilot)... after purchasing an app you should have received an invoice stating what your google checkout number was...
I have never had trouble installing purchased apps in different builds after upgrading. Both on my Desire and HD2 I can find all my purchased apps, regardless of on which device or ROM the app was bought.
OK, I know that this is a pretty common problem...but over the course of a week I've tried every piece of advice I can find on the Internet. But some apps just will not show up in the Google Play Store for me, including ones I've paid for.
Things I've tried:
Read through every post on GMPOWERs impressive thread at least twice and tried every suggestion at least 3 times
Tried both the regular manualnooter zip and the apps2sd one
Tried this post
Since it's fixed almost everybody's problem: I've tried every permutation possible of stopping and clearing data + cache for both Google Play and Google Services framework
Tried restoring Nook to stock and re-rooting with a different SD Card twice
Uninstalled the Google Play updates so that it goes back to being the old-style Market
I'm just about at my wits end - nothing I've tried as fixed the likes of Facebook or Flash Video Browser (what I'm really looking for) not showing up in the Google Play store. Does anyone have any other advice to fix this?
same problem here...
I have three NC. One was rooted in Feb and had full market visibility. The last two NC was rooted last week using the SAME SD card and CWM and with the same procedure. Indeed trying all the fix without success. There was a post indicating that installing MN apps2sd would work ... tried that too without success.
There may be something going on with market/playstore.
Could you give me some more examples of apps that you are having problems with, this will help me out significantly. You should not have a problem seeing facebook in Google Play. You will have a problem with Flash Video Browser, because the description for it in the store says “Requires Android 2.3+.” Since the stock firmware Froyo 2.2.1, the store will not show you the app. A number of people are currently having an issue with the Play Store not listing apps that they have purchased, LINK.
You can try changing your build.prop ro.build.fingerprint to verizon/voles/sholes/sholes:2.2.1/FRG83D/75603:user/release-keys
If you change the build.prop, you will need to reboot the device, then perform the Market has limited visibility found in the ManualNooter 5.02.19 post. If the play store stops working after performing the steps, simply open manage applications and uninstall updates for the Play Store.
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Could you give me some more examples of apps that you are having problems with, this will help me out significantly.
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All the NC had 5GB partitions. I did a wipe data/cache before installing BN1.4.1 (didn't bother to upgrade to 1.4.2).
Followed instructions and installed MN apps2SD on one and non-apps on the other. Flashed OC kernel to both. After rooting, did a search for ES File explorer and only File Expert came up on both NC. Installed File expert then the remaining apks. This may be important. The NC were signed into different gmail accounts (not mine).
Though not related to NC, google moving to Play store seem to have messed up visibility on Nook Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24288916&postcount=285
Thanks for all your efforts - don't spend too much time on this.
On top of clearing the cache and data for the google play store, did you clear it for google framework services?
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All the NC had 5GB partitions. I did a wipe data/cache before installing BN1.4.1 (didn't bother to upgrade to 1.4.2).
Followed instructions and installed MN apps2SD on one and non-apps on the other. Flashed OC kernel to both. After rooting, did a search for ES File explorer and only File Expert came up on both NC. Installed File expert then the remaining apks. This may be important. The NC were signed into different gmail accounts (not mine).
Though not related to NC, google moving to Play store seem to have messed up visibility on Nook Touch http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24288916&postcount=285
Thanks for all your efforts - don't spend too much time on this.
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Thank you for giving me that information. It is hard to get accurate information when some people don’t report back. I get some people that complain of limited visibility when it really is limited market access, they can’t find certain apps in the market that they want because it is not compatible with the device. What you described is exactly what I would describe as limited visibility.
I went through that same problem two days ago after a fresh install. I first did a search for Astro, it said 556 apps, but when I clicked on it, only 5 apps showed up, none of them were Astro. I then tried ES File Explorer, and had the same results as you. After I cleared the play store data and google services framework data, and then rebooted the device, it went back to normal. I have had the full market access since then.
I do agree with you that the Play Store has had a lot of problems since being released, not only on the NC, but wide spread. If this continues to be a problem on new installations, I might try updating the vending.apk in the MN package to the current release to see if it would help in anyway.
On a side note, I looked into that google voice issue some more. Using the build.prop that I posted allowed me to download google voice from the play store, but still have the error downloading the voicemail. You can see the voicemail files in /data/data/com.google.android.apps.googlevoice/files, but I could not get them to play. It is still on my list of items to look into more.
Man I'm sorry I can't help you. But I have to say this is one the best written questions I've seen in a while. You stated the problem, said what you did to fix it and let people know you are willing to help yourself. And look who you got helping you out mate. It is nice to see threads like this. Thanks.
- this sig is just so I don't have to write 10char when on my phone -
Possibly stupid suggestion on my part, but what is the LCD density you have now? I had no luck at all using several of the roms until I started changing the LCD density to at least 160-200 until I did that most of the apps I wanted to find wouldn't even show up. Not saying this is the answer for sure, but it may be worth checking out, right?
Never had the problem, but you mentioned the verizon spoof, I thought that would work. What about going to the market on chrome and logging in and selecting you device, I have done that with the nook running cyanogenmod. How about the Amazon app store and sideloading google specific market apps. At least you could have some selection of paid/free apps. Can you install from the uSD card to get by?
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Never had the problem, but you mentioned the verizon spoof, I thought that would work. What about going to the market on chrome and logging in and selecting you device, I have done that with the nook running cyanogenmod. How about the Amazon app store and sideloading google specific market apps. At least you could have some selection of paid/free apps. Can you install from the uSD card to get by?
manage applications has no options in it
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Could you give me some more examples of apps that you are having problems with, this will help me out significantly. You should not have a problem seeing facebook in Google Play. You will have a problem with Flash Video Browser, because the description for it in the store says “Requires Android 2.3+.” Since the stock firmware Froyo 2.2.1, the store will not show you the app. A number of people are currently having an issue with the Play Store not listi...
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I have a similar problem as the one qouted above however, when I go into settings, manage applications I don't have an option to uninstall updates or the ability to uncheck or check on device-install. any suggestions?
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You will have a problem with Flash Video Browser, because the description for it in the store says “Requires Android 2.3+.” Since the stock firmware Froyo 2.2.1, the store will not show you the app.
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but stock 1.3, 1.4.1, 1.4.2 are gingerbread already?
Current B&N version is 1.4.2 which is Android 2.3 Gingerbread
B&N 1.3 is Android 2.3 Gingerbread
B&N 1.2 is Android 2.2 Froyo
B&N 1.1 and 1.0 are Android 2.1 Eclair
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Anyone playing with 4.2 yet?
Second and subsequent users seem to have to go through some kind of set up. Can they/do they need to use a Google Account they already have on another device? Is it a good idea for them to do so?
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Anyone playing with 4.2 yet?
Second and subsequent users seem to have to go through some kind of set up. Can they/do they need to use a Google Account they already have on another device? Is it a good idea for them to do so?
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was just playing around on mine yeah it seems it's set up as another user (inc google sync everything) what i was hoping for was like a guest account that could browse the web use some of the apps (according to a whitelist or something) say im with some friends and am streaming music and want to be able to let them use it without giving them access to my email and other stuff?
sadly not to be i fear unless someone can allay my fears?
Looks like you have to emulate a guest user by pre configuring them as a 'dummy' account, with dummy email etc.
Would be difficult to get them access your paid apps though. And what if you set up free apps under that account? Are re downloaded and take up space? That would be a bummer for big apps like games.
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Looks like you have to emulate a guest user by pre configuring them as a 'dummy' account, with dummy email etc.
Would be difficult to get them access your paid apps though. And what if you set up free apps under that account? Are re downloaded and take up space? That would be a bummer for big apps like games.
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exactly want to show the thing off but don't want to have to stand over them making sure they don't go rooting around
WibblyW said:
Looks like you have to emulate a guest user by pre configuring them as a 'dummy' account, with dummy email etc.
Would be difficult to get them access your paid apps though. And what if you set up free apps under that account? Are re downloaded and take up space? That would be a bummer for big apps like games.
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How is this going to be managed then?
Good Point !
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How is this going to be managed then?
Good Point !
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I've tried that out with my girlfriends account and it seems like if you download an app, which you already have on your device, it "installs" it almost immediately. There is no re-download of the file. However, if you start the app you'll see a new instance of it, without any data taken from your other account. Maybe there are some apps which keep their settings but those which I've testet so far seem to start naked. This will mean that the app itself will only stored once, the data like savegames etc. is stored per user.
What bugs me is that there seems no way (maybe with root) to access the internal storage area of the other user. As example, I have some movies stored on my device and I can only access them in the account which was active, when I copied the files to the device.
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BOOOM: Here we go. Tried to install the facebook app on two users and got the following message:
"You cannot install this app because another user has already installed an incompatible version on this device"
Seems like Google adding this feature is only one part of the story. I think there are quite a lot apps out there which will run into the same issue.
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Looked a little bit deeper into this and found out, that this was NOT caused by an incompatibility issue from the facebook app itself. I've modified the apk (for testing purposes, don't use facebook much) with "AppGuard" and installed it outside of the google play store. As I tried to reinstall the facebook app from the play store I ran into the previous described error message.
So am I correct in thinking there will be no way to "make apps available" to all users? I thought this would be a great tool for my son, so i can basically say you can have access to these 10 games and that's it. but if i have to add my google account then "install" each game that's going to be a pain in the arse!
Is there no resource documentation on this? I looked I could not find anything on google that addressed apps really at all.
Each user appears to get a their own "home" directory created in /mnt/shell/emulated.
Default user dir is "0"
Second user dir is "10"
Each contain the standard dir's from 4.1 and earlier.
I took a CWM nandroid backup immediately after upgrading and the clockworkmod folder is in the same directory, so I'm guessing that any app that uses the old-style home path will need updating.
since adding the second user SuperSu has had issues - hangs & then crash, and the Settings app crashed - if I have time I'll revert to stock, upgrade again, and then add another account without rooting & installing supersu/busybox et al.
Hi,
Samsung Galaxy note 20 ultra Europe exynos sm-986b debloat/decrapify (Switzerland/Swisscom).
I'm starting my journey to debloat that phone which is entirely unusable for me, due to the unwanted presence of hundred of junk apps.
After realizing that I was not using a data cable but only a charging cable (computer not having usbc, I had to use another cable than the official one). I manage to get my bearings a bit.
So the connection is sorted out (out of topic), now start the actual decrapifying:
1) I used/will use this program, to list all programs:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...easy-management-android-applications-t4147837
Note: I could have used adb directly but this seems easier, especially as we talk about hundred of lines.
Note 2: each time I installed "ACBridge" which appears to show nice icons for that program.
2) I have compiled a list of applications currently installed. I did not install anything manually myself yet, not even connected to Android Play:
442 apps by default.
https://gofile.io/d/xGHoff
Note: Are some of these apps only specific to my seller and my region? It's possible, since the phone clearly had some of the FYI operator branded options installed.
3) I'm going to factory reset now. Again, nothing was really installed, just official rom updates done. But I want to start from fresh.
4) After I will reinitiate the phone, I will redo the list of applications capture, and start trimming down.
5) After the factory reset, it seems I had a new screen (unless I skipped it by mistake last time) proposing me to install additional apps like spotify, linked in... I refused this time. Last time I had the apps installed maybe a mistake click, or something new thanks to newer firmware.
6) Use the program again, I now have 429 apps only instead of 442.
7) I tried the list mentioned a starting point, I will look into this user list, allegedely 109 apps removed from a S20 (which is a different phone, I know):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-windows-adb-appcontrol-v1-4-5.4147837/post-83980273
First that only has 104 apps over 109.
Second, I found a few items I wanted to keep and a few I wanted to remove.
Customization Work required here...!
Caution: the list of 109 items contains what is described elsewere as dangerous:
com.samsung.android.authfw ; Not Recommended: Used for password autocompletion, can be removed if you don't use it. This app is sometimes called by the system and might cause battery drain if removed
com.serv.android.preloadinstaller : App that install other application, do not remove!
I will check each non-obvious items.
This list seems more pro:
Samsung full apps list
Feuille 1 LAST UPDATED 01/09/2022,Reinstall an app using pm install-existing [the app package],Enter in shell using adb -d shell before running the command,Enter in shell using adb -d shell before running the command,<a href="https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G988B_Q.pdf">https://docs.samsungk...
docs.google.com
I made a custom preset with the 85 items in the list of " Safe to uninstall ". Only 71/86 where showing, some I wanted to keep like Android Auto.
--> I seems to have to choice but start from a bigger list and go through it myself.
After checking each items of that 109 list, vs the spreadsheet and sometimes google, I actually ended up reducing the list, or keeping more items. My final list is currently 68 applications to remove.
I also removed additional things like Netflix.
FINAL LIST:
Samsung SM-N986B_[All]_presetJSDec2020.txt
In the process I learned that this list seems rather personal to do. Yet, some items are marked not to be removed due to battery drain, so the initial list of 109 seems risky. I would say some manual work is mandatory.
8) Moving on, time to uninstall. Done.
9) Time to configure the basics again (basically language, etc...). Done.
10) Time to migrate data from old phone to new phone, I used "Samsung smart switch" app, installed it on both phone, used wifi, and unselected unwanted things. Done after some 1-2 hours (not so much data but it was slow and I interrupted twice).
11) Now the phone looks ok, a few apps had to be manually reinstalled like MCDonald's crapp.
12) Time to recover authenticator, relogin to apps, etc...Some apps I can't do now like RSA token, needs to regenerate a token elsewhere. GoogleAuth was simple, I could easily export from old phone/import new phone..
13) Phone works for now. I see I missed to remove some stuffs like "My files" which was basically simply like file explorer but from Samsung. That was indicated as "not remove" but probably can be ( com.sec.android.app.myfiles ).
Edit: day +1 after the step 13. Phone works properly. No visible impact on battery drain (seems high, as usual and with little usage overnight, same as before any intervention from my side). Unable to continue anything for now, being ill. Everything seems to work, even without the stuffs I removed.
On that note, I got rid of youtube and yt music, and installed YoutubeVance.
I tested the basics (phone, camera...) looks ok.
Note: this is WIP and more sharing the journey, as well as learning. Usually I would unlock bootloader, root, and install a decent ROM from XDA; but not happening this time.
Thanks for sharing cyber.cat thread ! Used it and removed 20+ useless app
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Thanks for sharing cyber.cat thread ! Used it and removed 20+ useless app
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Glad that could help- The tool from Cyber Cat and the threads are useful. Yet I saw quite a few tools/options around.
The idea was to share the experience of using one, do some sort of decrapifying/debloating and comment.
For me even if I expected a bit that, I was a bit surprise that this operation needs a lot of customization.
Let's say it was easier to start from a fresh Android ROM and add some selected Google apps, rather than trimming down that Samsung junk (That something I usually do with custom roms, here I stayed with official Samsung ROM, so I did not have that possibility to start fresh).
I see Android 11 update should come soon (around January 2021?).... I take it that they will reinstall all their garbage in the OTA update... And we will have to decrapify again!?
Yes I guess for a major update it will maybe reinstall crap like "tips" from Samsung. But i've done this using beta4 OneUI3.0 and it work very well
Is it possible to uninstall the google app? And then install it again? I have problems with hey google not working
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Is it possible to uninstall the google app? And then install it again? I have problems with hey google not working
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Yes, which app specifically?
Not sure what is "hey google", are you talking about "Google Assistant"?
Anyway, usually clear cache, not uninstall/reinstall...(then clear data when sure what you doing...)
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Yes, which app specifically?
Not sure what is "hey google", are you talking about "Google Assistant"?
Anyway, usually clear cache, not uninstall/reinstall...(then clear data when sure what you doing...)
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The assistant is inside the google app. Clear cache I have try but didn't work. Thanks for the help
The phone shown me an update yesterday (01/01/2021), OneUI3, Android 11.
It updated without any issue, and all my apps and things are properly there after.
One strange thing is it was allegedely updating 470 apps on my phone, I don't remember having so many.
Another thing to notice, is that I did not notice any new garbage apps after the update. For example, some emoticons junk was not reinstalled. Also, the default keyboard remains Gboard, like I set myself before the update.
Anyway, time to check now, in details.
Verdict: # Total applications: 421
Some junk have been installed again during the update. (after my previous cleaning, I was at:
# Total applications: 361)
I don't see the same type of junk as it was before, like Netflix apps, Bixby...etc... So it's rather strange.
One horrible app I found is "eBay Partner Attribution". What is it? Affiliate marketing is a referral program where sites pay commissions to affiliates who send traffic to their site that results in a sale.
Well done Samsung, installing junk to get additional money...
App killed on sight (com.ebay.carrier).
I also removed com.google.android.videos.
That will be all for now, don't have the time to do better.
Is it really safe to debloat all knox related stuff? just asking if it helps anything?
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Is it really safe to debloat all knox related stuff? just asking if it helps anything?
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I think knox junk tripping is only if you replace your bootloader:
Knox
I think removing the apps only is not tripping it (anyway, if it is, my phone is fine without it).
It depends what you mean "safe" anyway, if you are talking about some features that might not work, or a broken phone for example.
Thanks, im not sure if you should put the Knox app in the safe list.
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Thanks, im not sure if you should put the Knox app in the safe list.
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Try to delete it then u'll see xD