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The TyTN, Memory cards, and my camera...

Hey. This is my first post on the board - spent the last couple of days snooping round and searching as much possible. Just wandering if anyone can offer me a little bit of advice.
Basically I'm looking to get the TyTN once it finally comes out on t-mobile. Apart from the it being my first pda phone and every function looking like too much fun it would be really useful - at least every so often - if I could take photos off of my camera and email them off places.
I shoot a canon 30d - which takes compact flash type I and II.
The simplest? solution: would be connect the camera (or more practically a card reader) by usb to the phone. From what I read the wizard and the universal do NOT support usb hosting - and as far as I can find neither does the TyTN.
Next best solution: compact flash to sd adapter. Which does not exist. Either due to lack of demand or the laws of physics.
Final - well if its the only way, its the only way - solution: sd to compact flash adapter. Use sd cards in my camera when I reckon it'll be useful to transfer them to my phone. Only issue here is write speed. But considering the buffer on the 30d is about 30 jpegs (or 9 jpeg/raw simultaneously) it shouldn't be a huge problem...?
Are there any other solutions? And are my presumutions correct?
Thanks!
James
(I'm a little bit technically stupid on pda phones - but I am a physics student and should really catch on quite quickly...honest)

I think you've pretty much got it down.

hmm...I've just had a thought.
micro sd --> sd --> compactflash.
That's surely going to hugely lower write speeds and make everything a wee bit sketchy?

I'm going to give this a go< i've got a canon 1D mk2 which has an SD slot aswell, I'll see what happens and report. I usually use my dell Axim X50v with my phone in a tight spot without my macbook but the tytn has more ram than the Axim so it may handle the files better.

It works, I set my 1D mk2 to backup shots taken on the CF card and copy them at the same time to the SD card (micro SD adaptor) then took it out the camera put it in the Tytn 2 and go to file explorer and view the images then attach them to an email, sadly I can't do this with my canon 5D but then again the files are a lot bigger anyway so it would be slower with bigger attachements on my emails.

Wm5torage!!

Hey people, I just wanna know what is wm5torage actually?
I've many descriptions and they are all the same, they tell u it makes your phone work as a flash card. Maybe I'm just plain stupid or there something i dont get...
I appreciate someone explaining its functionalities and uses...thanks in advance!

What it is is that it will make your pocketpc a USB MASS STORAGE DEVICE making transfer speeds faster than using activesync to transfer files which is very slow compared to using wm5torage.
have you tried transferring a file @ least 250mb in size? try it and you will experience what am talking about.

xbiggyl said:
Hey people, I just wanna know what is wm5torage actually?
I've many descriptions and they are all the same, they tell u it makes your phone work as a flash card. Maybe I'm just plain stupid or there something i dont get...
I appreciate someone explaining its functionalities and uses...thanks in advance!
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From what I now and usage experience, It uses its usb driver to turn your phone as a reader, so if you have external flash memory such as minisd or microsd, etc inserted, and then activate wmstorage, when you plug in the phone via usb, it will show up as an accessable drive which you can easily transfer files back and forth. It is a little faster but mostly depends on your device, so if you device is usb 1.0 like the 8125, then its going to be at that rate. I myself notice it to be a little faster when transfering large files like music or movies because activesync doesnt transfer it properly.
Another benefit in wmstorage is you dont have to have activesync installed to access your files on the phone on your desktop. Not alot of other computers have activesync installed so instead of installing it, you could just activate wmstorage on your phone, connect it, and then proceed. easy

Thanks!!
Thanks people, I've always wondered what it was for!!

It's not only acts like card reader, you can (theoretically) use your internal memory like a some sort of usbstick

usb thumb drive instead of PC?

I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra

Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219

See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host

sfrrr said:
I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.

I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra

I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!

my DREAMY G1 can't ROOT!! weak SD & usb, bluetooth etc*&$^%$

Thanks for Looking, really desperate.
I can’t root this ^#%@ G1. Basically I can not get necessary rooting files flashed on my G1. I guess the short question is why does my G1 not accept files from my win7 box. Not through the preferred SD card method but, not through wifi, Bluetooth, ADB. Droid explorer, etc, etc. I’ve tried everything , every method …nill.
BUT, otherwise the phone works fine. Internet, phone, G1 crapware, etc. You can assume I’ve tried every thing I can find on the web. But if you want to read details go please do
BACK-ROUND:
After many, many attempts with every recipe and every set of ROMs around, I ‘ve narrowed it down to it not liking the taste of my SD cards…most of the time, For some reason I can do the initial rc29 downgrade but not much more.
1) Connecting with USB cable to PC. android shows up in “devices and printers” and so does its “removable disk (after mounted from phone). However, double clicking, rt click trying to for mat it just gives errors
2) Putting in SD card while up and running returns “unrecognizable media”
3) Now, I can format SD (yes fat 32) on the PC card reader, add files, whatever, put card in phone and turn it on , at least I don’t get an error, but I get no better access to card.
I was just about to physically take the phone apart and see if there was some flotsam, corrosion, a piece of bacon whatever making physical connection. THAN I remembered bluetooth behaves the same way and WI FII won’t connect at all. Seem that indicates something systemic…Radio??
Help Please?!?! I have 2 hamsters, a Swiffer picker-upper, various commemorative plates to trade...(grinn)
PK
BTW:
ATTEMPTS AT REMEDIATION:
Every peripheral works fine on my HTC Tyne
5 different New SD cards three, 4 gig, one 6 gig, one 2 gig different meg cards
SD reformats both quick and full adnaseum
4 different USB cords including brand new top of the line.
Reset to RC29 time and time again (remarkably it is apparently reading the flash drive in this circumstance.

Sometimes, microSD is better than SD

I've seen many people complain that they wish the Iconia had a full-size SD slot and not a microSD one. Today, I realized that microSD can be a big advantage.
My wife is on a school trip this weekend, currently on a bus with 60 high-schoolers. She just called because she realized that she'd left behind some important instructions that she's supposed to read to the kids on the bus. I can e-mail them to her, but the problem is that the tablet (my Acer Iconia) doesn't have a WiFi connection on the bus and lacks 3G so she can't receive the e-mail there. The instructions would be too small to easily read from her phone. Fortunately, her phone is an Android one with a microSD card. So, I've e-mailed her the instructions - she can save them on the microSD card, swap the card into the tablet, copy the file to the tablet's memory, and then return the cards. This will put the document on the tablet, where she can easily read it.
This made me realize that a similar solution would be useful with photos. I can take the photos on my camera, copy them to the tablet and convert the RAW images to 800x600 JPGs. Next, I can put the JPGs on a microSD card in the tablet's card slot and then put that card into an Android phone to e-mail them as desired. True, having 3G on the tablet, or setting up tethering with the phone, would be better options, but neither are available to me at the present. So, this will be a great solution - when I replace my iPhone with an Android (I hope to have a Samsung Galaxy SII LTE/Skyrocket soon).

Thanks for that post. It just shows how far we have come with technology over the years and how tablets are becoming part of every day life.

Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off. This will make the card not hold in.Safari as the Iconia its tough to get micro card locked in .for me anyway.I don't think micro slots should be mechanically spring loaded to small to work correctly.
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.

From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.

Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?

erica_renee said:
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.
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Thanks, I'll have to give that a try when she brings the tablet back.

drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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Well, that would have been possible, if she'd had the cable available on the bus.

Looking for my sd slot on my nexus s
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nfazz said:
From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.
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I've found that bluetooth usually works pretty well for transferring small files. It seems to be too slow to transfer larger files quickly, however. With files over 20mb in size I try to use a cable, or even a thumb drive with the acer.
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drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?

erica_renee said:
Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off..
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Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the extra capacity and to swap with my camera, I ended up using a Mini/Full SD adapter to use the Minis in my camera.

I bought this from my local Kmart and use the USB adapter in my A500 to read MicroSD from my phone or another tablet. Beats the crap out of actually trying to fiddle the one out from my tablet, and it has the bonus of being able to plug into my PC and my car stereo's USB port if I want to listen to music from it.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SDHC-Ad...J7FA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321670793&sr=8-2
Works really well and its a tiny little thing, I can leave it plugged into my tablets USB port all the time and it doesn't get in the way too much at all.

Cheasy123 said:
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?
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You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!

kpfx said:
Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the capacity and to swap with my camera, I just used one of the SD adapters to use the Minis in devices that use full sezed.
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Not write protect locking. Ian refering to the tiny bump on the side of the card that holds it into the slot.This is not used on many phones. But the Iconia SD card locked in by this tab.I have a SD card I used alot between two phones with music on it.this card will not stay in position on my tablet that lock (little bump on card) is worn off

drkalo said:
You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!
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Even with USB storage turned on it won't recognize it! My computer can see both drives on my phone just fine but the tablet gets nothing :/

I intentionally bought a micro SD card + SD adapter for my digital camera so I can easily swap the card into my tablet to transfer photos over. Yes, a USB adapter would have done the job with a regular SD but this is one less thing to carry around. Now I can swap Micro SDs between my tablet, camera and phone. It feels good to be connected