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Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
bobdude5 said:
ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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joeyyoung said:
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
Seems like I'll be getting a Hero in October
does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
poppinpengawen said:
does anyone know if the hero will be coming to AT&T??
I think it's ridiculous that AT&T hasn't picked up ANY android devices yet.
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Well, didn't it go to the FCC with AT&T bands?
Nahh. I dont think it will be going to ATT!
Its pretty much comfirmed by now that it will be coming to Sprint. Sucks for me but guess ill be moving.
im gonna go sell my HTC Hero which arrives tomorrow and just wait for the us Version.
Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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Yes, 850 & 1900 3G bands were passed for the HERO on the FCC side. How much you wanna bet it goes to Rogers before AT&T. I think that's why it was passed thru the FCC which is fine by me as that model will work fine thru AT&T 3G bands here in the USA.
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have you checked the new rumors and sources...
There was a link on HTC website support page which stated
"HTC HERO (Sprint)"
dont believe me try this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/04/htc-support-site-reveals-hero-for-sprint-snap-for-alltel/
i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
jtoyz2 said:
i take the FCC approval as better news that its coming to ATT than HTC website showin HTC Hero (Sprint)...that does not show enough evidence that it will release on sprint...typo or or whatever can happen...we just have to wait and see...waiting for more news on the sony xperia x3 snap dragon thats a beast of a android phone.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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There is far more evidence to support a Sprint release than an ATT release. The FCC approval could easily be for an unlocked 3G version of the device, and have nothing to do with ATT. Everyone just assumed it was for ATT. Live in denial all you want, but it's looking more and more likely that the Hero is coming to Sprint. A typo as specific as that is just way to unlikely.
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Or maybe, just maybe, it's coming to both. One interesting note is that the FCC document is called NM8_HOT. NM8 is used to identify HTC as it relates to the FCC. I was wondering if HOT might actually be H(er)OT where T is also AT&T's stock symbol. I dunno...
I don't like Sprint but I welcome any Android devices on more carriers. The more widespread it is, the more end users and developers we'll get.
the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada or Latin America. one of the Omnia's passed the FCC with AT&T's 3G bands, but it turned out that it was bound for Latin America, which I guess uses the same bands as AT&T does. I'd love to get this phone, but idk if I'm willing to pay the full unlocked price from Clove, especially taking into account all the issues I've read and heard about the lagging and such. if it had a better processor, then I'd consider buying an unlocked one, but since it doesn't, I think I'll be waiting for a better Android phone. possibly the Sony Ericsson one
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the model that passed the FCC could merely be a version for Canada
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While I'm eagerly waiting for the HTC Hero to come to Canada, is there any specific reason why the FCC has to file and go over phone destined for Canada or Latin America?
I'm looking for a reputable US source for the Leo. Someone who ships when they say they will and doesn't charge your account until the unit is shipped. I don't need 3G because it's not available where I am 90% of the time. Would like to have the unit in-hand by November 19th. Any recommendations?
-Bob-
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I'm looking for a reputable US source for the Leo. Someone who ships when they say they will and doesn't charge your account until the unit is shipped. I don't need 3G because it's not available where I am 90% of the time. Would like to have the unit in-hand by November 19th. Any recommendations?
-Bob-
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Maybe try Expansys USA, although I've never purchased through them so can't comment on the shipping. I did pre-order once (later canceled) and they definitely didn't charge my card ahead of any shipment.
I've always ordered from Clove UK and have an HD2 on pre-order with them. While they aren't a US source they've been top notch in every aspect which keeps me coming back.
Hope that helps and I'm sure you'll get plenty of other suggestions for retailers .
rebecker
you can go for clove or handtec. they ship to US.
im thinking which comany i will go for. clove is 15 years old. a little bit higher than handtec
I'm hoping to get it from t-mob usa for the 3G in 1st Q (that's if I can wait that long ).
But have dealt is Clove UK in the past which is top shelf!
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I'm hoping to get it from t-mob usa for the 3G in 1st Q (that's if I can wait that long ).
But have dealt is Clove UK in the past which is top shelf!
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Clove is top notch and they are very friendly to deal with. Always have been truthful about stock and they ship ultra-fast. They usually have a DHL option for a little extra $$ you can have it next day.
I haven't had a great experience with Expansys-USA. Usually take longer to ship and have been untruthful about stock.
I really miss having the Euro HTC units support quad-band HSPA. I need 3G too much to upgrade to the HD2 yet. I hope at&t will carry it.
Thanks for starting this thread as I was curious about who to go with as well. I'm certainly new around here so apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but if I got the HD2 from one of the places mentioned, would it work on Verizon's network here in the States? I'm not too up on all the bands and what works on what. Cheers!
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Thanks for starting this thread as I was curious about who to go with as well. I'm certainly new around here so apologies if this has been answered elsewhere, but if I got the HD2 from one of the places mentioned, would it work on Verizon's network here in the States? I'm not too up on all the bands and what works on what. Cheers!
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No problem for the question. The HD2 will work just fine on EDGE/GSM in the US but the version being released in the coming weeks won't support 3G. So the short answer is, yes it will work but without 3G . I'll miss not having 3G speeds but there's always using Wi-Fi to make up for it.
There is a confirmed HD2 for T-Mobile USA coming in early 2010 that would support T-Mob's 3G bands. There may be a variant for Verizon and AT&T that supports 3G as well so keep checking the Leo threads for any news.
I Hope soon we have the HD2 for AT&T or sim free with US 3G!
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There is a confirmed HD2 for T-Mobile USA coming in early 2010 that would support T-Mob's 3G bands. There may be a variant for Verizon and AT&T that supports 3G as well so keep checking the Leo threads for any news.
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Thanks for the info. I had heard the rumour about the HD2 for T-Mobile, but didn't know it had been confirmed. I'll have to hold out then as we don't have T-Mobile or AT&T where I'm at out here in the boonies.
bersca said:
Clove is top notch and they are very friendly to deal with. Always have been truthful about stock and they ship ultra-fast. They usually have a DHL option for a little extra $$ you can have it next day.
I haven't had a great experience with Expansys-USA. Usually take longer to ship and have been untruthful about stock.
I really miss having the Euro HTC units support quad-band HSPA. I need 3G too much to upgrade to the HD2 yet. I hope at&t will carry it.
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Yes, this had been my hope until I got to wondering how the branding might affect possible use of custom ROMs. I'd give up 3G (never have had it) for xda communities ROM's, if indeed the carrier branding prevents updating the wider selection of ROMs.
Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875205178&Tpk=nokia n900
Possibly comforting news for AT&T/EDGE users..
I've noticed that on previous phones like the Diamond/D2/TP/TP2/HD has a Class 10 EDGE, for download up to 236kbps. On the HD2, it has an EDGE class 12, capable download of up to 560kbps, twice the download speed as the previous HTC phones. I don't know how fast AT&T EDGE network really is or whether or not the bandwidth is shared with their 3G network (which im assuming will have a higher priority), so if someone with a higher level of knowledge in this subject...please chime in =)
In any case, even if we're stuck with EDGE, rest assure that the HD2 can download at twice the speed as HTC's current phones.
I just wanted to ask if there would be any way of getting the Touch HD2 on the Sprint network? I've read the rumors of the Sprint Adonis, but I need a lil' more info to make a wise decision. I was thinkin' TP2 until I saw touchflo3D 2.6. I would put a custom rom on the pro2 that has that UI, but I can't find a rom that has landscape support and there were concerns about how smooth it would operate. Can someone please lend a expert opinion. I would really appreciate it.
Price on Expansys USA usually very expensive. Like other said, Clove UK has great price and very good service when I was buying my X1.
USA source for HTC HD2
Heres a reliable source in the US for the new HTC HD2
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_TOUCH_HD_2
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Heres a reliable source in the US for the new HTC HD2
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/product.asp?itemMDL=HTC_TOUCH_HD_2
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Is Really a very reliable source for the US but need to check is not the same Euro/Asia model if not is not compatible with the 3G band in the US.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Alaxar said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
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Correct this is the US network
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Correct this is the US network
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Not for T-Mobile USA who will be getting the HD2 1st Q 2010. They use 3G UMTS1700 & UMTS2100.
galaxys said:
Not for T-Mobile USA who will be getting the HD2 1st Q 2010. They use 3G UMTS1700 & UMTS2100.
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Ok Yes I miss that ,means apparently just T-Mo have because is the same as the Euro version and we the Guys in other bands we don't have dessert.
Let's just get this thread started, so we don't have to go searching thru various threads and sites to find out any possible news regarding the HD2 coming to AT&T in the US. This is the basis of this new thread:
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Somebody reported that he handled a prototype HD2 for ATT-USA. It is scheduled for early 2010 release... I am trying to squeeze more info from him.
Just take it for what it's worth though.
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Grandpanda- my butt is falling asleep! I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting word of this possibility. I was shocked to see the text HD2 and att in the same sentence. Please let us know as soon as you hear anything.
I'm Not Shure what Grandpanda hear but I'm very Interesting to know if the HD2 come to AT&T.
Where would this unit fit in their lineup with the Diamond2 on the lower end & the iPhone on the higher end? Don't get me wrong, I'd be very interested to see this phone come to AT&T, but I'm not sure how they'd manage it...
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Where would this unit fit in their lineup with the Diamond2 on the lower end & the iPhone on the higher end? Don't get me wrong, I'd be very interested to see this phone come to AT&T, but I'm not sure how they'd manage it...
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They better find a way to manage it- or they will end up losing a lot of customers that would like the iphone experience with the flexibility of Windows Mobile. I would suspect that could cost them millions of dollars in lost 2-year contracts if Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile releases the HD2. What good is it to remain loyal to the iphone while hundreds of loyal customers get fed up I leave. They were already the last one's to release the Touch Pro 2. It's time to take care of the WM users who want the the high-end phones, or they will go elsewhere to escape the iphone prison they are trapped in.
Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date. The other question would be what does the next gen iphone look like relative to the HD2. One thing going for the iphone is it's apparent ease of use, at the expense of flexibility, for the average consumer. It's brought a lot of people into the smartphone ranks and has certainly driven data revenue for ATT. It will be interesting to see what direction Apple takes with the iphone as more and more handsets come to market with similar features and better flexibility.
I use an iphone now, but can't wait to get my hands on an HD2 with ATT 3g, either through them or one brought in from Australia when it launches there.
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Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date. The other question would be what does the next gen iphone look like relative to the HD2. One thing going for the iphone is it's apparent ease of use, at the expense of flexibility, for the average consumer. It's brought a lot of people into the smartphone ranks and has certainly driven data revenue for ATT. It will be interesting to see what direction Apple takes with the iphone as more and more handsets come to market with similar features and better flexibility.
I use an iphone now, but can't wait to get my hands on an HD2 with ATT 3g, either through them or one brought in from Australia when it launches there.
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Is good idea but the 3G band don't work in AT&T HSDPA network,just can connect using EDGE 12 not bad.
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They better find a way to manage it- or they will end up losing a lot of customers that would like the iphone experience with the flexibility of Windows Mobile. I would suspect that could cost them millions of dollars in lost 2-year contracts if Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile releases the HD2.
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I couldn't agree w/you more. I'm actually almost already there with the Droid going to Verizon.
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Where it fits in the lineup might be directly related to when their iphone exclusivity ends. I believe it's sometime next year, but I haven't seen a specific date.
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I think you're right on with this assessment.
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Is good idea but the 3G band don't work in AT&T HSDPA network,just can connect using EDGE 12 not bad.
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You are correct with the current version, but I was referring to if an ATT version is released. I think we can also expect to see a version in Australia if we go by the previous HD release. If that is the case it would have the 850Mhz band which is compatible with ATT.
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hey bugsy this is a very good idea
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You are correct with the current version, but I was referring to if an ATT version is released. I think we can also expect to see a version in Australia if we go by the previous HD release. If that is the case it would have the 850Mhz band which is compatible with ATT.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Lets hope this is true
HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
I really hope ATT gets this in a reasonable amount of time. My TP2 is falling apart
However I would be willing to import the Aussie version is it will be compatible.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
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+1 = Lets hope that is true. I would spend the extra money and purchse the unlocked one, which would allow us not to have to be held prisoners while other companies release this phone and att chooses not to because of their affinity with the iphone. My question is.....withe the specs of the bands for this particular phone, which carriers would it provide total support for all bands- both Edge and 3G. ATT? T-Mobile? Verizon? Sprint? Would HTC invest in releasing an unlocked HD2 to one of these carriers, but not eventually release a branded carrier-specific one in the near future? It seems like if they spent the time to create it, it would be released by the carrier it supports at a lower discounted price. Either way- just make one with full Att support, and I'll be picking one up the next day!
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
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HTC HD2 US (HTC Leo) Specs
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
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Unfortunately, those are "Datasheet State: Preliminary specifications" which means pdadb has know idea till the specs are finalized...
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My question is.....withe the specs of the bands for this particular phone, which carriers would it provide total support for all bands- both Edge and 3G. ATT? T-Mobile? Verizon? Sprint?
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Sprint and Verizon are CDMA networks so the GSM versions of the phone from ATT / Tmobile would not be compatible.
I don't really care if AT&T actually carries the phone officially. I hope that it when it gets released it will just support the AT&T bands. I'm going unbranded if possible! Just want the 3G speed is all!
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I don't really care if AT&T actually carries the phone officially. I hope that it when it gets released it will just support the AT&T bands. I'm going unbranded if possible! Just want the 3G speed is all!
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Ditto. If you think about it- an ipod Touch costs $450, then you by the HD2 to replace that, as well as serve as your phone. I won't have a problem convincing myself to buy the unbranded US 3G version, as long as it supports all AT&T bands.
If history is a predictor of future behavior, AT&T will be late to the game if it appears at all. Chances are likely that we will only see the 850 mhz 3g band on Telstra (AUS), as it did with the Touch HD with it's hiked up price tag nearing the $1k mark. I hope I'm wrong as I am praying it comes to AT&T as well.
If AT&T is the only carrier (which I doubt because T-Mobile is getting it from all indications) or GSM is only what this phone will do that will suck. I hope CDMA gets it because where I live AT&T and T-Mobile both don't cover our area.
I did send an email to HTC USA about the possibility of an unbranded/unlocked HD2 being produced for the US market and what carriers might be branding the phone for their networks. Not good news at this time but here was their response.
Hello XXXXX,
We thank you for the question about what carriers will have the HD2 in North America and if we are going to create an unlocked version of the HD2 that works on North American 3G networks. We will be more than happy to help you in this situation. Unfortunately we do not have any plans to launch an unlocked version of the HD2 in North America. If this stance changes it would be published as a news release on our American and Canadian websites. As for carriers picking up the device, it is up to them to get the device on their network and sell it. The carrier would be the place to ask in this situation as they usually brand the device as their own and sell it as their own. Anything on the internet that is not on a carriers website or our own can be considered rumor.
I did a search but didn't find much. Any word on the street about when AT&T might be putting the HD2 in their stable?
Tref said:
I did a search but didn't find much. Any word on the street about when AT&T might be putting the HD2 in their stable?
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They won't. The HD2 is already over 6 months old. Plus they wouldn't have anything that might compete with their iphone sales.
HD2 is a T-Mobile Exclusive. if you want it for AT&T I think the Telstra version is at&t 3g compatible.
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HD2 is a T-Mobile Exclusive. if you want it for AT&T I think the Telstra version is at&t 3g compatible.
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Is TMOUS advertising it as an exclusive?
I'm not familiar with Telstra. Is it WWE out of the box? And it will work on 3G, not just Edge?
Thanks
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They won't. The HD2 is already over 6 months old. Plus they wouldn't have anything that might compete with their iphone sales.
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The TP2 was more than 6 months old when it was added by AT&T...
And it doesn't compete with the iPhone any more than the HD2 would. Besides iPhone 4.0 is coming out soon so I don't think potential iPhone sales will be hurt by "just another" WinMo device.
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Is TMOUS advertising it as an exclusive?
I'm not familiar with Telstra. Is it WWE out of the box? And it will work on 3G, not just Edge?
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Yeah, the australian Telstra HD2 will work on the 850 band, which AT&T uses for most of there 3g. You'll have to check and make sure at&t's 3g is on the 850 band in your area. They use another band for 3g in some areas. The Telstra HD2 will cost you around $800 to get it imported, but it's unlocked already, so you can put your at&t sim card right in and use.
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The TP2 was more than 6 months old when it was added by AT&T...
And it doesn't compete with the iPhone any more than the HD2 would. Besides iPhone 4.0 is coming out soon so I don't think potential iPhone sales will be hurt by "just another" WinMo device.
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Well, either way, it is advertised as T-Mobile exclusive in the US, so it won't be going to AT&T.
Good info guys, thanks. Guess I'll have to exhale now since holding my breath til AT&T brings it in isn't going to work. Anyone know of any reputable vendors with Telstras?