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Hi, I have been very happily using my XDA with a '3' SIM after unlocking it but as of this weekend, it stopped working. It will work with other network SIMs so I know the phone is fine. I called '3' but obviously they are not interested. Is it because of the IMEI? If so, I would like to find out how I can change it ... My radio was 4.21 so I downgraded to 3.23.00 and then tried XDA Manipulator but it does not show that option (flashes and dissappears) . I cannot seem to find Radio Stacks V4.06 or 4.10 anywhere ... any help much appreciated.
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How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
Reference your usage of the sim from 3, I cannot see it being an imei problem, as you know the xda is not 3 compatable so it will be logging you on through a 3rd party network as far as I know. If the imei was blocked it would not work with any operator here in uk. Does the 3 sim work in another phone.?
I found GERMAN Radio Stack from this forum. (REF:http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2185). The '3' network also uses O2 network. Have not tried '3' sim in another phone - will test tomorrow.[/b]
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How did you downgrade the radio stack, please give me the method used because I know many people will be interested, I have never managed it either.
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i have downgraded a few times, but i dont know if this method will work 4 u.
if i currently have a TMO stack, ill go to a ATT stack, then i can bak to an earlier TMO, or visa versa
i only tried this with ATTs and TMOs, never had the need to try other stacks...(or should i :twisted: )
It is possible that the phone has been blocked, I have had this problem with 2 phones that I bought as faulty, I repaired them only to find that the sellers had claimed on insurance then sold the knackered phone which had been blocked by the provider.
JUICEe - I am not brave enuff to go down that route given the dire warnings from this forum in moving from UK/Europe stacks to US ones.
crusing-thru - Given that XDA works perfectly ok with 02 SIM, and '3' SIM works fine in 3' phone, I believe its something about the '3' SIM/Network and not the phone that is preventing me using it in my XDA at this time.
Tx for the interest, hope you were able to downgrade using the German stack. It works fine with O2 SIM.
It is strange though that the sim was working fine then doesnt work in xda but still works in another phone. Have you tried an orange or t mobile sim in the phone? If you are positive that 3 uses O2 as a patch network then ignore this. Have you been to bootloader and inadvertently changed gsm to 900 only, if 3 uses an 1800 network this would explain it, if you havent been to bootloader then I have no idea and if as you said the people at 3 are not interested I would consider dumping them as a service provider.
"Hutchison 3G has agreed to share network facilities owned by UK operator mmO2 to ensure rapid time to market even before its own network is complete, with customers roaming between Hutchison's limited 3G network and mmO2's existing second generation network. Hutchison's right to let customers roam with at least one existing competitor's 2G network is part of the 3G license and enforceable by law."
3 have locked the SIM, must be in one of their phones or will not work, even though it uses O2 as a voice network. Seen this problem many times, and there is nothing you can do about it. Anyone who has made it work is just lucky, and 3 will get to you in the end.
Don't ask me why they do it as to me they are restricting their own business, cos if you use your own handset, you are likely to use it more. Just ask my girlfriend who just hates her nec 606 and hardly uses it!!
Hi,
Basically what happened was that O2 complained to '3'. People were getting the cheap tarriffs from '3' and using them in 2g handsets.
O2's opinion was those people 'should' be using O2 as their provider if they are just using the 2g voice part.
'3' realised that if this becomes wide spread, although they will still make a % off the voice call in profit (after paying O2 for using their 2g network), they wont be acustoming people to using any of the 3g functions.
Really they would be hindering the progression of users from 2g to 3g, which may end up costing them alot more ultimately.
In my opinion it was most likely O2 threatening to take action too.
Really their marketing stratedgy is to give out cheap voice calls, to get the 3 phone in your hand... then they bombard u with offers to try video calls etc etc eventually 'in theory' u get used to these services.. same old story.
I havnt monitored the message, but from what i can tell they are using one of two things to stop the phones working:
1) capability messages from the phone restricting the phone from completing authentification because it isnt '3g' capable. That could be done as part of the auth process, raising the required capability to 3g.
2) Using the SAT (sim application toolkit) capability to talk to the USIM and dissable it.
Although SAT and USIM are not actually compatible, you can talk to a USIM through a SAT phone with limited functions.
If they're using (1) your **** outta luck really. But if that were the case you would expect everyone to be knocked out within the space of a month max (when they update the hlr records). Did you just get your 3 card?
If its 2.. you may be able to try an OLD handset that isnt SAT capable, just to prove the point.
I'm leaning towards (2) because i do know that on many nokia's if u type a number as soon as you boot up the phone it will work.
Also if u leave a digit on the screen.. say 0 as soon as u end that call it will still work when u dial the next number.
Clear the digit and not type one quick enough and you gotta reboot before it'll work again.
Sounds like the nokia firmware blocks access to the sim for other processes, in anticipation of reading the KC and doing an auth when u make the call.
Toxic.
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first off i would like to thank this site for all its help so far , i have installed colonels rom and i am delighted with it , however i have a small question.
i purchased the sprint mogul while visiting the states last week as i needed a pda and it seemed to fit all my desires , however upon bringing it home i noticed that there was no simcard slot so i cant use it here in Ireland (we seem to be a bit behind the times ) spoke to a rep here and i was told the simcard is inbuilt and it would need to go back to htc to be changed , now that isnt really feasible at the moment so i was wondering if it was possible for me to change it out or if that is even possible , i dont mind taking it apart but i can find no info on where the sim goes or if there even is one , sooooooo just wondering is it possible ?
thanks again for all the help i have recived from other threads on upgrading and thanks to the colonel for releasing a class rom
regards
To the best of my knowledge, CDMA phones don't use sim cards at all. I could be wrong.
excaliburhc said:
Gentlemen / ladies
first off i would like to thank this site for all its help so far , i have installed colonels rom and i am delighted with it , however i have a small question.
i purchased the sprint mogul while visiting the states last week as i needed a pda and it seemed to fit all my desires , however upon bringing it home i noticed that there was no simcard slot so i cant use it here in Ireland (we seem to be a bit behind the times ) spoke to a rep here and i was told the simcard is inbuilt and it would need to go back to htc to be changed , now that isnt really feasible at the moment so i was wondering if it was possible for me to change it out or if that is even possible , i dont mind taking it apart but i can find no info on where the sim goes or if there even is one , sooooooo just wondering is it possible ?
thanks again for all the help i have recived from other threads on upgrading and thanks to the colonel for releasing a class rom
regards
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Uh, for in Ireland you have a paperweight. There is no CDMA outside North America. There is no sim in the Mogul, and nothing in it can be reprogrammed to make it work on GSM. The entire radio portion of the phone is made for CDMA and specifically Sprint.
Sorry, but you'd be better off ebaying it and getting a GSM device.
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There is no CDMA outside North America.
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To my knowledge, this statement isn't entirely true, as I believe that South Korea and maybe China has CDMA networks...but I could be wrong...
Everything else you stated is right on though!
Oh boy.
In a nutshell:
2 major types of wireless protocols:
GSM and CDMA.
GSM is a sim-card based allowing phone portability, and exists on a world-wide market. The sim card contains your identity, and switching it into another phone causes your identity to follow.
CDMA is phone-based, meaning every phone has a unique ID that broadcasts to the tower. That ID (sort of like the VIN number on a car) exists on only your phone, and represents your ID on the network. This actually existed long before GSM and SIM-cards, and is at a bit of a disadvantage because you can't switch phones whenver you want. Your provider has to switch it for you.
Here in the US, we have both CDMA and GSM networks now, however CDMA has been around longer, and so it is still arguably the more common technology. Lately, GSM has been catching up, but over in Europe GSM has always been around and CDMA is virtually non-existant.
Living in Ireland, I beleive that all networks are GSM, which means SIM-card based. So, you probably didn't know that there were other types of technology that weren't compatible! If anything, we here in the US are "behind the times" because we're still using an antiquated ID system as opposed to SIM cards!
HTC makes a GSM version of these devices as well, which you should consider. They are known as the Tytn and the Kaiser (our Mogul/Titan sort of comes in between, although most closely resembling the Kaiser in hardware). Next time you want to buy a phone in the US, make sure its GSM and unlocked first!
Hope this clears things up!
You should have 30 days to send back the mogul and get out of your contract. The phone will not work outside of North America. Take a look at the HTC Kaiser,its also sold as the AT&T Tilt. Its a GSM device that is very similar to the Mogul.
If you told Sprint that you were going to be going back to Ireland, I wonder why they didn't sell you the Samsung IP-830W, which works on the Sprint CDMA network in the states, but can be used on GSM/GPRS networks everyplace else.
If you can't get a full refund, maybe you can exchange the Mogul for that?
I think it's a little behind the times, but the IP830 is a pretty good phone and has a smaller slide out QWERTY keyboard.
thank you for the information , just need to find that damn receipt now and give radioshack a call , see about a swap for the tilt ,
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sigghhh
well it seems radioshack cant help . unless i brought it back to the store i purchased it in , and that cant really happen .
anywhoooo thanks all for the help ,
but i have just one other ,
is it possible to synq my titan with another type of phone i.e nokia 6610 and have the titan act as the handsfree ? via bluetooth?
basically like the satnavs where you have the dialer but it uses your phone to connect , seems like a strange request but this would at least allow me to use the phone features
thanks in advance
Noob here. I just got an unlocked Wing. I am an AT&T subscriber. Phone works great, but is there a way to use the AT&T media net features on the T-Mobile device? Can I make the AT&T network see the device as an AT&T device? I found an old thread with the same kind of question, but no real answers.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I believe you have to go to at&t website and configure the options manually unless somebody creates an at&t rom, otherwise everything must be done manually
I'm completely making this up right now ... BUT:
Did you just pop your ATT sim card into the Tmobile Wing? And that's it?
I think for any other features to work, you would need to call ATT up and give them the IMEI and other information from your phone which would make it work, since that's how they detect what type of phone you have server-side and return the information they think is pertinent to your phone...
If youre phone isn't "regsitering" ... or its trying to send your phone the info that should have gone to your old phone that's on the account ... or it may not be sending anything at all.
I suggest, call ATT and explain the situation. I seriously doubt they're going to say anything... since you're still paying THEM every month.
Once they have the necessary info from ur phone, it should take 15 min to provision or something and boom ... everything should work.
Have someone made a cab with those ATT features you are trying to use? Maybe over in the kaiser forum who are mainly all ATT users bc of the Tilt
I have a T-mobile Unlimited Web+ 400 free messages and the issues is this plan is paid for by my company and I cannot change the plan, currently data works on my HD2 with Android.. I want to know if the data will work on a rooted myTouch 4g without changing to Android data plan? Can anyone explain this to me??
If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
Thank you
jggimi said:
If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply.. My main issue is, T-mobile has different data plans for different category of phones, I currently use an HD2 like I told and the data works.. But when I tried using the same SIM in Android it did not work.. I was wondering how T-mobile will know what type of phone I am using...
I don't know how data works on HD2 (on Android).. I totally agree with your explanation, as I am not going to buy a myTouch 4G on contract from T-mobile, I am going to buy it off Craigslist so there will be no T-mobile involvement.. I called up T-mobile to check if I can change my data plan but they said I can't as only my Company can do that.. I cannot ask my company to change the data plan as that is out of the question..
I know its really a strange situation I am in, I am getting a my phone bill paid by my company and I have a data plan so I wanted to know if I can really make good use of it..
Thanks once again...
Hmmm. If the SIM from the Windows phone does not work for you in the Android phone, then there must be more to provisioning of "Data" than the SIM alone -- but moving the SIM should work fine for voice, sms, and mms (which don't use "data" services).
As I suggested, I might have been wrong.
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
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actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2.
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Ok, sorry for confusing things, then. My bad.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
erickdj said:
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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jmwils3 said:
actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
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Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
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Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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Yes the Vibrant is for T-mobile only.. When I called T-mobile they said that my current data plan only works for Windows based devices and if i want to use an Android Device I will have to change my data plan to an Android data plan that they have. Somehow T-mobile are able to find out what device I am using and they are able to filter my data service. Since I cannot change my current data plan I am stuck to using a Windows device!! BUMMER!!
If there is any workaround I will be more than happy to do it, so I can make data working on my Android phone...
I'm a T-Mobile employee (RSA), and I can confirm that the type of data plan (known as the SOC) matters. They're actually working to change that (the new "4G" SOCs work for everything except blackberry). What this also means is that if you were on a legacy/promo SOC and you change platforms, you may lose that promo/legacy rate (a good chat with customer service might help, but all the guys in the store can do is call customer service for you). I don't really know any more details as to how it works on the back end, but that's the end result.
Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
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Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
In the GSM world we just flash various radios. Those can be found the development forum.
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
The IMEI is the serial number of the phone. Used for warranty purposes, and verification. [IIRC] The IMSI is the serial number of SIM card. IT is the serial number that T-Mobile would approve to allow your phone to connect to their network. I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
If you are messing with the IMEI of the phone you are messing with stuff that can get you in a lot of trouble. And is punishable by law. You are not allowed to copy IMEI according to FCC standards.
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
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I've answered to the best of my ability.
Your questions might be better addressed to the Tracfone subforum on HowardForums.
Tracfone locks the SIM to the phone. If you wanted to use your own phone, why in the world did you go with Tracfone?
If you want to get pay-by-the-minute service on your MT4G, go with T-Mobile prepaid or AT&T GoPhone. There are also other MVNOs of both T-Mo and AT&T that do allow you to bring your own device.
If you plan on using data, your best speeds will be found on T-Mobile or its MVNO Simple Mobile due to hardware radio compatibility.
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I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
I've answered to the best of my ability.
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Yes, thank you very much. As far as tracfone goes, its both a CDMA and GSM carrier, I do believe if you get a leased number from them you will get either verizon (which will be a cdma phone) or you will get AT&T (which I currently have) one and that will even display AT&T when porting it over.
I don't have a lot of money and the job market is dry so until I save enough up to move then I just research the tech that I can get my hands on, this is a good way to learn, which brings me to my next question to your reply...
HAS ANYONE EVER GOT IN TROUBLE FOR THIS??? I'm not selling or distributing or even trying to access anything i'm not supposed to to benefit or gain by taking away so I'm just curious if there have been any cases where they show up from someone just tinkering... by 'they' i mean the fuzz.
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
birdisthewordfella said:
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
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If you go with AT&T GoPhone, the key is to just buy a SIM - not a GoPhone itself. The phones that come with airtime bonuses are locked to the SIM for some number of months. If you buy just a SIM you can use it in any phone. Voice calls are 10¢/min. If you buy $100 in airtime you get a 1-year expiry, but all other denominations are shorter and would lead to a higher annual spend if you stick with them.
If you go with T-Mobile prepaid, get a SIM activation kit (both a SIM and an activation code included). If you buy a full $100 in airtime right off the bat, you get a 10¢/minute rate, 1-year expiry, *and* every top-up you make from that point onwards will have a 1-year expiry (even a $10 top-up). Or you can top up as little as $10 and get a 90-day expiry but a much higher per-minute rate.
It all really depends on your usage pattern - how many minutes and texts would you use? Do you have any interest in getting data?
If you end up switching and you have a balance left to burn in your TracFone account, you can always do so using SMS donation (look up Mobile Giving Foundation for a list of charities).
Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
birdisthewordfella said:
Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
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t-Mobile?
It's a 2Gb cap then they throttle your speed back to "EDGE" speeds... don't get to happy.
they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
birdisthewordfella said:
they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
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you'll only get EDGE speeds all the time then.
AT&T Prepaid Go Phone Sim Cards are available online.
Use the ebay link. You Can also activate it online.
Check out this one
This is much better, 2 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ONWGMC