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Downgrading from OTA Cupcake to RC29 to get root seems impossible.

I've searched everywhere, it seems impossible. I tried the DREAIMG.nbh trick, and it failed.
I tried all suggestions of how the name should be, and I got "No Image File!" Is Cupcake
really just a good-tasting trap to prevent getting root? I don't want my G1 to be a TiVo
I'm wondering if anyone out there has had similar experiences and are willing to HELP
(not give useless pointers like what has happened to people many times before) without
getting mad at just another n00b, I'd be really thankful.

Hello there, have you tried reformatting your sd card. And there are different dream.nbh files floating around, you just may have a corrupted one. I would try reformatting first and then if that doesnt work I can send you the .nbh I use. And yes you can downgrade from the OTA, I just did it yesterday. Oh by the way when you downloaded your .nbh did you extract it from the .zip file it came in? Just have to ask

Yes, I extracted it from the zip file. I use Ubuntu, so I'm rather computer literate
I tried many different DREAIMG.nbh files, and none have worked
And I reformatted it as FAT32 twice, even, although I really doubt the second formatting
was necessary.

no man, I've done it twice because the update kept freezing my phone. I followed the tutorial from here, and I too was using ubuntu. I put everything on the sdcard after reformatting it, and then went ahead with the process of rooting the phone... it worked the third tim and apps to sd works for me too... just took awhile to get everything to work. wish you the best... good luck man

This is why I don't bother to unroot.

Hmm well then the only thing I can suggest is using the .nbh I have always used. I have never had a problem with it and just did it yesterday. Here it is for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=05N71GON Let me know if that works

Try it with XP.

maxisma said:
Try it with XP.
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Oh HELL no!

nbh still not working
chrisrj28 said:
Hmm well then the only thing I can suggest is using the .nbh I have always used. I have never had a problem with it and just did it yesterday. Here it is for download: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=05N71GON Let me know if that works
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I've tried holding Camera+Power to start up my phone and I always get "No Image File!"
I've retried many times, this is getting ridiculous. Are you sure the nbh trick still works
from an OTA Cupcake (1.5) update? What if the nbh trick was blocked to prevent rooting?
D:

Try reinserting your memory card. That might be the problem. The bootloader may not be reading the memory card properly.

jaygajay said:
Try reinserting your memory card. That might be the problem. The bootloader may not be reading the memory card properly.
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I've done that, and it still doesn't work :<
I've reinserted many times. And yes, in case you're wondering, I did disconnect it from my computer :S

Yes I guarantee that you can downgrade from Official OTA to RC29. Like I said I did it yesterday morning with no problem. I have used that same .nbh file since I started rooting RC30. Did you try using the one I posted?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
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my g1 cant get past activation screen due to no signal!!!

PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i bought this phone did factory reset and now i have no signal and the phone is stuck at the activation screen because i bought it from someone and not tmo they wont exchange it for me and im trying to figure out what i can do to make this work? i have no idea about any of the system info because like i said cant get into the setting tab....i had taken it to a shop they opened it up and couldnt find anything wrong with the insides so im guessing its a software problem. if anyone has any ideas i would LOVE to hear them.....im rather computer literate and have been trying different things including some of the recovery, system and radio images from here http://developer.htc.com/adp.html to no avail....can anyone help me get my g1 working so i dont have to use my POS nokia?

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PLEASE HELP ME!!!! i bought this phone did factory reset and now i have no signal and the phone is stuck at the activation screen because i bought it from someone and not tmo they wont exchange it for me and im trying to figure out what i can do to make this work? i have no idea about any of the system info because like i said cant get into the setting tab....i had taken it to a shop they opened it up and couldnt find anything wrong with the insides so im guessing its a software problem. if anyone has any ideas i would LOVE to hear them.....im rather computer literate and have been trying different things including some of the recovery, system and radio images from here http://developer.htc.com/adp.html to no avail....can anyone help me get my g1 working so i dont have to use my POS nokia?
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Dumb question but is your phone in an area where you have a signal? Also does your sim work that you put in the phone?

yes ive put my card in my dads g1 no problems put his card in mine....same thing im having trouble his....its the phone not the coverage i can garuntee you that

same thing im having trouble with*

Since you did a factory reset lets try something different. Load up the DREAIMG.nbh (RC29) file and see if it does the same thing.

tried that it loaded....still doing the same thing....had to try a few times but it finally loaded up....the webpage i posted i tried several different versions they have up but every time it came up and said something along the lines of invalid signature then (xx files) then gave me the same prompt of alt w alt s alt l home back to reboot.....thought maybe there was something there....not sure......

beerhooligan said:
tried that it loaded....still doing the same thing....had to try a few times but it finally loaded up....the webpage i posted i tried several different versions they have up but every time it came up and said something along the lines of invalid signature then (xx files) then gave me the same prompt of alt w alt s alt l home back to reboot.....thought maybe there was something there....not sure......
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Well it sounds like you tryin to load it in recovery menu. You need to load it in bootloader (cam and power).

i thought the bootloader only read the nbh files on the sd? and not the update.zip am i mistaken? because if i dont have one on there it will just wipe out what i do have on it now correct?

beerhooligan said:
i thought the bootloader only read the nbh files on the sd? and not the update.zip am i mistaken? because if i dont have one on there it will just wipe out what i do have on it now correct?
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The RC29 file is the .nbh file. So if you downloaded the RC29 and it's in a .zip file you need to unzip that. RC29 should not be loaded as an update.zip.

sorry my misunderstanding i have already loaded the rc file pretty sure it was 30 im not trying to root though im just trying to figure out if its software related or hardware related im pretty sure its software just having a problem figuring out what piece of software because i reloaded the rc file and now im trying to update the radio and that jazz and not having any luck....do you have a link for a stable rc29?? i wouldnt mind rooting it after i figure this problem out i downloaded a few but they would fail every time thats why i went with 30

beerhooligan said:
sorry my misunderstanding i have already loaded the rc file pretty sure it was 30 im not trying to root though im just trying to figure out if its software related or hardware related im pretty sure its software just having a problem figuring out what piece of software because i reloaded the rc file and now im trying to update the radio and that jazz and not having any luck....do you have a link for a stable rc29?? i wouldnt mind rooting it after i figure this problem out i downloaded a few but they would fail every time thats why i went with 30
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http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EMY1HIVU
Try that and see if it might help.

If you have no data...then your gonna have to do half the steps to root anyway....
heres the guide to activate over wifi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316

Before you root, make sure you have APN configured properly. On the screen where you enter your google account login info press Menu and select "APN". Make sure it's set up properly for your carrier, and then Save and try again.

Trying to root - problems [SOLVED]

Hey guys.
I've been attempting this all morning and so far I've had no luck. I have a VodafoneAU Legend which I updated to the official 2.2 yesterday. But now I want to try root.
I've been trying to follow the HBOOT 1.01 guide but there's a few problems. First, I cannot connect to the phone with adb unless it's in htc sync mode. No other mode will work. So when it's time to copy testimage.zip to the card I have to change from sync mode to disk mode, whereby adb loses it's connection. What do I do about this? Is it a driver problem (in Win7 here) or something else?
Thanks,
Dave.

Ok, the first problem were drivers.
Now I can't finish the second guide. When I try using clockwork to install the firmware.zip, the phone just boots to the red triangle. What do I have to do?
Dave.

So I pressed the up button/power combo at the red triangle and get the Android system recovery. Selecting "apply update.zip" says it can't verify. What do I do? Is this guide for my phone or do I need to follow something else?

I don't understand this guys. Anyone help? I'm thinking since this is a step to root the phone, I'm not actually rooted yet so I can't use the clockworkmod? Then what is the guide for? The guides at unlockr don't mention what firmware/hboot they work for so I'm not keen to try them yet.

Read the guide on fake flash. You need the recovery file named "update.zip" in the root of your sd to proceed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App

whitetigerdk said:
Read the guide on fake flash. You need the recovery file named "update.zip" in the root of your sd to proceed..
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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But isn't that what Rom Manager does? Download the update.zip then run it? Man this is getting even harder to understand.
Edit: And this is left out of the HBOOT 1.01 guide because.....????? When I work this out I'll write a PROPPER guide, lol.

Just checked and update.zip is on the card.
So which part of the guide am I getting wrong?

Decided to reinstall phone with the official froyo release and am now ready to try this again. Is there anyone that will walk me through the process? I will write a complete guide if the "gotchas" are still there.

i feel for you ... hope you get it fixed... thats one of the reason i havent dared messing with the phone because i've seen a few post like yours where something didnt go quite as described... for whatever reason... and im sure the answer is out there but just not within the guide instructions... i guess there is no way to gather all gotchas because there are so many environment variables...
good luck
and please share your technique

Just saw gobczak's thread in the developer forum having similar troubles with Vodafone UK phone, getting the red triangle at reboot. I'll keep an eye on his thread and see how he goes with it.

Did you run the stage1 and stage2 bats while in recovery?

dezzadk said:
Did you run the stage1 and stage2 bats while in recovery?
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No because the guide didn't say to.
The thing is it seems I'm only stuck on the part where the firmware.zip file has to be flashed. The guide says to use clockworkmod for this. But when I try installing the clockworkmod recovery it gives some file verification error. Isn't there ways to do this via the pc, either through those batch files, adb etc? Or will that fake-flash update.zip file work?

jabbado said:
No because the guide didn't say to.
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As I just posted on the other forum, I think you need to skip that step in guide 2 and go straight onto guide 3 after you have flashed the LEGEIMG.zip, rebooted, and then removed LEGEIMG.zip from the SD card.

Guys I've got to the point of downgrading to 1.31. But when I run the first batch file it just hangs at the "Writing zip" part, with the htc logo on the screen. Is there any way to fix this?

Can someone please explain this part of the guide:
Phone will reboot and find LEGEIMG.zip on your sdcard, copy it into RAM and check it. If you get CID error at this point, then you don't have goldcard.
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Ok, so I don't get an error. I get nothing. The phone just boots to the fastboot screen. If I press the power button it goes to the hboot screen and I can see the messages of loading LEGEIMG.zip. But the guide doesn't say to press anything.
So should I or shouldn't I press the power button? Also, if I try making the goldcard again, at which point in the guide do I start from again? The entire process or just copying LEGEIMG.zip to card then rebooting phone? I mean, will all the other things like flashing misc1-2.img still be there?

Guys I finally got this working.
The first problem was with the goldcards. For whatever reason formatting them with the win7 format tool just wouldn't work. I had to use the command-line format tool, setting the block size etc manually.
The second problem was the unnecessary steps in the guide. A few people helped me out with this (namely blackbart at the Aus Whirlpool forum), but basically in the second step you can stop after flashing the LEGEIMG.zip. The updating froyo part isn't needed - for my phone anyway.
Then when running the batch files in the third part, for whatever reason the first batch would keep hanging at 'writing zip...' and I needed to remove the battery to unfreeze the phone. flannigan, also from the Aus Whirlpool forums suggested to just go on to the second batch file. This worked!
So my Legend is now finally a true Legend
Anyway, thanks for the help everyone - couldn't have done this by myself.
Dave

Great news, I think we need a new guide focused on rooting for HBOOT 1.01 / Stock Froyo to clear up the inconsistencies in the existing one. It's a minefield for a noob (or a rite of passage!), a revised guide will certainly save a lot of time and frustration for those taking this road in the future.
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA App

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Great news, I think we need a new guide focused on rooting for HBOOT 1.01 to clear up the inconsistencies in the existing one. It's a minefield for a noob (or a rite of passage!), a revised guide will certainly save a lot of time and frustration for those taking this road in the future.
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I'll write one if ya's want. I wanted to include little tidbits like downloading the apps required (visionary, rom manager etc) from the market then backing them up to the card with Astro so if it goes all wrong and you have to start again, you can just install them all from the card Also on using adb to push the files (roms, img's etc) when the guides say "copy this blah blah". Much quicker than changing to disk mode and back. Sound good?

Sounds good! Happy to help and add my 20c worth along the way. The existing guide has got the meaty bits, a new guide would cull the stuff not relevant, help fill in the gaps and alert to the pitfalls we've fallen into.

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I'll write one if ya's want. I wanted to include little tidbits like downloading the apps required (visionary, rom manager etc) from the market then backing them up to the card with Astro so if it goes all wrong and you have to start again, you can just install them all from the card Also on using adb to push the files (roms, img's etc) when the guides say "copy this blah blah". Much quicker than changing to disk mode and back. Sound good?
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I agree... i've done my reading since june of last year but then didnt check for another 4 months... and so many how to's pop up with various ways of doing it depeding on the situation... a lot of those howtos were consolidated howtos which sometimes make intermediate steps unenecessary (may be in some cases causes more head aches since it didnt take into considerations on newer version of hboots...etc)... an updated how to will be much appreciated...
And you're right the most important pre requirement is to have a safety net ... so starting with how to create a back up in case you screw it up is a must!
but im glad it worked out for you!

New way to downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1

Ok so found by mistake but will help ones with no sd slot to make goldcard
Ok so first dl. Superoneclick root then the auto rooter for 2.1 will let u know what its called later(ultra easy rooter)
Next 1a.open super1click and ulter easy rooter
2a.in super1click do the shell root
3a.the run ulter easy rooter,once finished u will be at the fastboot screen
4a.click fast boot to go to boot loader screen and then hit vol up to update"esrpimg" once that is done u will be back to 2.1.
5a.once the phone has loaded back up to 2.1 and root just go to recovery and load a rom
NOTE: put update.zip on root of sd so u can load cwm other wish u only get root
AND sry still no way to get soff....
HOPE that is better........for the pickie ones

That is by far the longest run on sentence ive ever seen. You should edit and complete your thoughts. As well as add info on to what your actually explaining. Such as a complete history of the problem. And links to the original related post.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA Premium App

Is this just another root method or will this also downgrade H-Boot, allowing someone to achieve S-Off after downgrading from 2.2 and H-Boot 1.0+
Your phone info in your sig says that your mytouch slide is S-Off'd. If it's true that you can achieve S-Off using this method, that would be huge news.

From what I have tryed alparev does not get soff when I did the downgrade all got changed buttbut the bootloader and the hboot will not allow me to get soff so so far no luck
the hoboot i have after downgrade is hboot 1.02.0000
now i dont know what the old hboot was so if anyone knows plz let me know so I can try to push it sum how
Thats sig is because I have muti slides so plz don't mistake it for what I'm posting now all this was tryed on new slide with 2.2.1

Has anyone ever tested this? I don't have a MT3GS anymore but this seems like a pretty awesome and pain free process to gain root.

I would also like to know if this works?

Yes it does work have done it muti times just to check and check YES it works.....

YES this surprisingly does work. The only problem I had was that the update file wasn't on my SD card so I continued to get a signature filed message when I tried to update. All I did was to copy the file from the mtg rooter fille over to my SD card and ran the update and it worked perfectly. I'm rooted and very happy!

Had to get my slide replaced and the new one came with 2.2.1. I used this method and it got me back to a rooted 2.1 state just like it says. Thanks for coming up with this one.

Really quick and easy! Thanks so much. Too bad T-Mobile is shipping these with 2.2.1 on them, no more S-Off...

Outstanding! Thanks for the tip. Worked flawlessly.

This would be awesome if there were links to where to download everything so someone doesn't download the wrong thing by mistake

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I agree with the last post ... links are critical here. This was the easiest rooting process I have ever encountered. Below are links left out by OP. Follow OP's instructions with these files and you'll be rooted quickly and painlessly.
super one click (v1.7 worked flawlessly for me)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=526223&d=1298565480
ultra easy rooter (mt3gslide specific)
http://www.fileserve.com/file/y8yFvWb
This method should be the new rooting method for folks receiving replacement or new slides with 2.2. This should, IMO, be in development.

Thank god for this method. My phone up and died and the replacement came with 2.2.1. I tried a few other methods that failed. This one worked like a charm.

nice
wish i would have stopped back here would have saved me from having to downgrade, root, then upgrade back too 2.2 smh.... lol but nice to know yeah!!!!

Very helpful
I am going to try this method soon. Do we need anything else other than those two files to get our phones operational again? I want to try cm7 nightly, but want to make sure the phone would work before trying to put on another rom.

dudas
hello friends xda congratulate you for helping and answering all our Unknowns but I wanted to ask for help with root touch me slide my'm total newbie at this and am having problems with the root of my phone if I do not understand and this is the only place to do this is here and we wanted to have some aid perire video on how to do it : Confused:: Confused:

crazygerz said:
hello friends xda congratulate you for helping and answering all our Unknowns but I wanted to ask for help with root touch me slide my'm total newbie at this and am having problems with the root of my phone if I do not understand and this is the only place to do this is here and we wanted to have some aid perire video on how to do it : Confused:: Confused:
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1. Download the 2 files in post #13/ thanks NJAZ (SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse.zip and mt3srooter.zip)
2. Extract them to their own folders on the desktop of your computer
3. Run the .exe files within each of the folders (open the programs SuperOneClick and mt3srooter--run as admin if using Vista or Win7)
4.In the Super1Click program, click "Shell Root", wait a moment til it does its thing
5.In the mt3gs rooter program, click on "Root Me"
It will tell you to turn on the wifi on your phone, and you must do it within 30 seconds, so hurry
6.Your phone will reboot into bootloader mode if all goes well. Use your volume buttons to navigate down to the fastboot option, and choose it with the power button. The phone will scan your sd card and find ESPRIMG.zip, and take a while checking the file. When it is finished checking the file, press the volume up button to confirm that you want to flash the file. Once it is finished flashing, you're rooted on stock 2.1 Eclair ROM.
I dont know if these programs put the update.zip for CWM onto your sd card too, I already had that and the ESPRIMG.zip on my card when I used this method, so if all else fails you, put a card into your phone with these files on the root of it into your phone and then use the 2 programs to gain root. Dont be afraid to try it a couple of times if it doesn't work the first time, and make sure that you have the correct drivers for your phone installed on your computer. To get into CWM Recovery to be able to flash custom ROMs, boot into bootloade by starting your phone and holding the vol-down button, and you will get a black screen with a red triangle. Then press power and vol-down and choose "Apply Update.zip" and in a moment you will be in CWM Recovery,as long as you have the file on the root of your sd card.
Just thought I'd spell it all out very detailed and simple for anybody less familiar with all this kind of stuff, makes for less "please explain step #...." posts.

ugh
this is soooo lame!!!!!!!!!!! n not ur post but my situation i cant get it!!!! it goes thru the process on ultra easy but one it get to the writting on cmd it says it wasnt "cd /sqlite_stmt_journals" then it says that the exploidcant be found and the rest of the other things that the program tries to push....im getting so frustrated..ived rooted g1 mytouch droid evo ived unlocked jailbroken all iphone models from 1st gen to iphone 4 all ipods unlocked blackberrys gotten to root on hd7 put android and wp7 on a hd2.... but this devices i am having so many problems!!!! ived tried every method and get to the same stop forget this phone im getting on craigslist n trading!

this worked for me....im still having problems with the a2sd tho...

Probable brick - any options here?

search has not been my friend these days - Long story short, I eneded up with a new to me evo 4g. I replaced the screen and started her up. A few freezes and I did a factory data reset from the settings menu. Decided to root.
used the supertool method here :http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/12/new-htc-evo-rooting-method-now-available-htc-supertool.html
ran step 1(prep) and had success.
ran step 2 (attempt root) and it was unsucessful - I figured it was because I didn't have an sd card in, so powered down
re-ran step one and phone froze.
Half the time I could get to the bootloader, so I tried an RUU. Went to fastboot usb, had it registered with the computer as and HTC... and ran the ruu. Either my windoze machine froze or the phone did. It failed.
Now I can get to the bootloader 1 out of 25 tries. Otherwise the screen stays blank. Then the buttons don't work every other time I do get in. I have to leave the battery out about an hour(?) or more for a chance at success. IF the buttons work, it stays active for about 3 minutes. Then the phone freezes.
The phone does have charging lights on it, but that's about it.
What can I do here?

Somewhat of an update. If I wait long enough- like 3.5 to 4 hours, I get one shot at the bootloader screen. I tried to ruu with a 4.56? stock rom, but had issues again. then i saw a friends phone who had 4.53. So I'll try that in the morning. Crossing my fingers here.

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Somewhat of an update. If I wait long enough- like 3.5 to 4 hours, I get one shot at the bootloader screen. I tried to ruu with a 4.56? stock rom, but had issues again. then i saw a friends phone who had 4.53. So I'll try that in the morning. Crossing my fingers here.
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If your phone comes on and you see lights its not bricked. Once you cant get it to do anything then thats when you worry. I would find one of the the PC36IMG.zip files and when you get it to go into bootloader you can install the zip.
Does your bootloader say unlocked? Also I am confused because the methods on here for rooting is quite easy and have been established for some time now. Why would you try a relatively new method and especially something of the xda grid.
Dowload the PC36img file from this thread and go from there..

Yeah, getting to the bootloader is the problem. I manged 2x last night. Sat overnight and no lights or beeps or vibrations, but it charges (confirmed batt was charged on my friends evo).
I tried a pc36img file, several actually, but it wouldn't load them. S-on is listed in the bootloader - since I never actually got it rooted.
IF S-ON is in the bootloader, will it load a pc36img file?
Can I install the PC36... file on the removable sdcard, and it should recognize it and install it? It just reads the card, examines the file and goes to the normal bootloader screen. That's why I was trying RUU files.

playya said:
Also I am confused because the methods on here for rooting is quite easy and have been established for some time now. Why would you try a relatively new method and especially something of the xda grid.
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If I recall, I was forwarded there by an xda thread. It's my fault for not checking my build first and making sure it was an acceptible root method for it. This phone is a year old, I assumed the method would work - I was wrong - and am now paying the price for the assumption.

wasilvers said:
Yeah, getting to the bootloader is the problem. I manged 2x last night. Sat overnight and no lights or beeps or vibrations, but it charges (confirmed batt was charged on my friends evo).
I tried a pc36img file, several actually, but it wouldn't load them. S-on is listed in the bootloader - since I never actually got it rooted.
IF S-ON is in the bootloader, will it load a pc36img file?
Can I install the PC36... file on the removable sdcard, and it should recognize it and install it? It just reads the card, examines the file and goes to the normal bootloader screen. That's why I was trying RUU files.
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Yes. I believe you can install a signed stock ruu directly from HBOOT even with s-on. install the sd card with the ruu.zip directly on the root of the sd card (name must be pc36img.zip). When HBoot loads, it will scan the sdcard and find the zip and automatically run it. format the micro sd card first... maybe its corrupted or something.

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Update:
All options were a nogo- I got a pc36(whatever) file to read and a progress bar that paused (paused till the battery went dead). No RUU file would work. I read that some of the memory modules must have been written bad in the root and it would need jtag service. So I'm putting the screen on ebay and cutting my losses.
Moral of the story: Stick with XDA - search under your operating system, don't be lazy like me.
Now I am root shy, only rooted one phone in the last 2 weeks, and none for my friends. Glad this was mine and not a friends - that's probably why I got lazy.