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I can't imagine I just got the latest toy and the whole thing made a step backwards...
I cannot send an SMS to a specific group of people among my contacts if not choosing each of them one by one each time...
I have many different group of people I send SMS' to and I was used to have lists on SmartSMS while using a SmartPhone and also distribution lists and categories on Outlook while at the desk...
With Wizard it seems there are no solutions... I have tried almost all of the trial SMS managers out there, but it seems I have no luck...
I've spent the last two days looking for a solution (either within WM5 or as an addon...). No luck...
Do you have any hint ?
Is there anyone wishing to develop something like above explained ?
Thank you very much...
Best regards...
Mix
Yeah, im also intressted in sending sms to a group.
Me too, plz let me know if you find some solution...
for a OS of such quality it is an appalling lapse by MS
We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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I've tried a little bit to use InfoSharp to send SMS to contacts within a category (fortunately there is such chance on this small and nice program...). The program itself is not yet "finished" but it does the job...
I'll post my suggestion to the developer, hoping that growing, it will become better.
About sending our comments to Microsoft: well, I personally think it would be nice, but it would be nicer if our suggestions could be "understood" in any way. It seems to me this rarely happens.
Not to mention the function I'm looking for was present in WM2003SE !!!
Maybe too many shrimps are eaten within MS... ;-)
Ciao
Mix
P.S. Actually ANY SUGGESTION on this matter would help, as it seems there still is not solution...
Hi guys have found an app for sending sms by category group
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
SimplySMS mobile 5 will be released in the new year.
good news
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peteborota said:
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
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Is seems they have no plans developing any WM5 version of such program, otherwise something would have appeared on their website...
I think then there is no other option to keep a Nokia phone in my pocket too... but then I don't need an HTC pocket PC... I can run with another one with no phone functions as I did in the past...
Any other news ???
Ciao
It is very helpful utility if we can find it
if we can have such an application it will be very greate
SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
Re: SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
peteborota said:
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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march ? March ? MARCH ???
It's on next century !!! I'll have switched to another phone by that date...
I'll have to wait then, but I'm looking around for another solution... pretty tired of hand-choosing between my contacts...
Thanks a lot anyway... the fault is not yours... it's MS' first of all...
Ciao
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
Will prompt the messaging app with a new message. If you last used Hotmail/whatever, though - it won't start a new text message, but a new e-mail/whatever.
If you want to be able to pick the account, use instead:
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx"
If you want to add a default message, use :
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
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You can also use vijay555's VJSMS to always send a text message, regardless of what account you're in.
32#"\Program Files\vijay555\VJSMS.exe" "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
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Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
ZeBoxx said:
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
[...omissis...]
Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
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Thank you very much for the helpful hint... the main problem anyway is always the same: I use distribution lists so I don't have to bother on updates of contacts details. I just keep them updated and I have the result.
There is anyway a major problem on the hint you just gave me: line limitation...
WM5 accepts for example multiple recipients on the "To:" field but the problem is I still do not know which is the maximum number (I suppose it depends on how long the "To:" field can be, maybe max 255 char.).
The same problem applies to your hint: I suppose there is still the limitation of 255 chars... or not ? ;-)
Thanks anyway.
yeah, I have no idea what the maximum length is
Of course, for Dutch numbers, 10 chars length, 11 if I include that semicolon, that's still 25 numbers Sending an SMS to 25 people should be more than enough for me
You could also write a mort script to call VJSMSSend a gazillion times :>
The former issue is the bigger one - I hate updating lists, myself. There shouldn't be anything holding developers back from implementing mailing lists, using info from the contacts POOM, and setting up SMS's (setting up and sending an SMS is a MSDN example, so.. pff)
I'm no developer, though - I just managed to get "Hello world" running a few days ago, and then I got sick - so no long computer times for me
SMS Distribution Lists
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
Regards
Jass
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Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
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Welcome in the "unsatisfied club"...
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
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I have never seen, nor in previous versions, a real "group" as we were used with Nokias...
Some thirdy party programs do that anyway (and it's good enough such programs exists...).
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
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Unfortunately, no... I have been looking around for a lot of time and finally I found a solution: I kept a Nokia 6230 in my bag, just for this kind of use...
I know, it's stupid... but much more less stupid than preventing me using this feature on a WM5 device !!!
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Different approach: select the contact you need to send the SMS to and select "Send new SMS" from the options. You'll have the editor opening with the "To:" field already filled...
Hope this helps a little...
Ciao
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jasvinder said:
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Download the attached file, extract the included shortcut to your PPC, and run it - see if that works for you. If it does, you'll note that there's "to" and "body" fields that you can fill out if you want (e.g. a pre-composed message to your boss saying that you'll be on your lunch break)
For some more advanced SMS stuff, try VJPhoneTools:
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
Or one of the many commercial SMS apps
The download when unzipped only contains a shortcut which is not valid.
CAn we download it from your website?
it's supposed to only contain a shortcut
Code:
32#windows\tmail.exe -service "SMS" -to "" -body ""
If you don't have a "tmail.exe" in your device's "Windows" folder, then indeed it's probably invalid. Try searching for that file on your device, see if it's elsewhere. If it's not, or you can't find it, just use one of VJ's tools instead
Group sms
O2SMSPlus is out and about, it's for wm5 and does group sms.
Hello,
I would like to use SMS in a new application using XDA. I want my application can read sms in inbox.
Do you know how I could see example of source code using SMS API? Or do you have such example to help me?
I got example to send sms but cannot get sample how to read the sms.
FYI, i am writing program using eVB.
Thanks a lot
You should take a look at PocketPC Network Programming by Steve Makofsky or simply try
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=pocketpc+sms+api&start=0&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&
and
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnppcgen/html/sms_apps2.asp?frame=true
SMS API is not easy.
Yup, it's not very easy, you need to learn about POOM...
I advise you to look into VB .net, it's been made a hell of a lot easier.
I still do it the Medieval way though! Win32 C++ all the way :shock:
V
I did include some C code on sending/reading SMS in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10761&highlight=
You are asking about reading messages in the Inbox that is when poom as mentioned by vijay555 comes into play.
I don't know anything about poom, but I have read incoming SMS by making my read thread take control of incoming SMS. This means that the message never goes into the inbox.
vangelderp: interesting code, not seen it before on the board. A very good way to do it. It doesn't need to be installed before pocket outlook etc does it? I don't imagine it does. Good stuff!
V
No it does not need to be installed before PPC Inbox (Outlook), what seems to happen is when a SMS message comes in the Inbox fires up. From that point on my code won't get a handle to SMSRead.
So what you need to do is do a warm reset and then start your user program (including my code sample) before any new incoming SMS messages and then it will get the SMSRead handle first. This then blocks Inbox getting a handle which I am sure it raises a error message on if you then try to go into inbox.
vangelderp: yup, that's what I thought. I never used that technique because of that, I stuck with POOM. But your createevent and thread work is very helpful.
V
SmsReadMessage of SMS.API
Thanks for your all comments.
Do you know how to use SmsReadMessage of SMS.API ?
This function is used to Reads a previously received SMS message. I really hope somebody else out there can help me how to use that function
Regards
You use SmsReadMessage like I do in the code attachment I have mentioned.
This function does not read a SMS message that has already been received by the normal PPC Inbox program. As said for that you need to use POOM.
SmsReadMessage for for your code to get a SMS Read Handle and then wait for the event (The Message) to occur and then use the SmsReadMessage function.
Exactly as I have done in my code snippit.
Hi!
I'm asking here if there is around a simple but valid flash sms sender, with GUI and access of outlook's phonebook... possibly with anonymous sender...
Searched a lot on the internet but found too crappy softwares...
cheers, Moccij
Hi MocciJ,
Have you tried Vijay555's tool for this type of sms? I know it's capable, but I'm unsure about the gui & contact integration part you want. You can find it @ www.vijay555.com
Regards, M
Already seen it..
But I'm looking to something qith contacts and some sort of GUI, maybe only for typing in the mex, the phone number from the contacts, and a send button..
Another app I've seen includes this minimal GUI, but no contacts and no copy and paste option..
Maybe I'm asking too much if I want it to integrate with outlook? Is it possible?
Many thanks, MocciJ
I'm sure it can be done, this integration with outlook. TomTom has it's added its 'contact navigation' option & Richard Owens the 'file as first last' option.
The question will be who's going to do it. Try to contact Vijay maybe he can do it for you, although I know he got a lot of stuff on his head lately.
M
Will contact him
Flashy messages rulez!! :lol:
MocciJ
Guys, Class 0 requires sending through a custom app, it's not a simple switch you check within outlook. As such, an Outlook plugin can grab the details of the contact, perhaps, but will then have to jump into its own GUI to do the text message creation and sending etc.
It's feasible, but just a pain in the backside to do GUIs right now...
However, I'm thinking about doing an app that will hopefully integrate such features at some point after a couple of more urgent things first...
V
Vijay,
By no means I'm pushing or rushing you to create this app. The general idea you sketch is just what I had in mind as the solution.
off topic: I see you moved to a new place :-( Hope everything is still ok with the family, especially with Alexander.
Have to get the kids to school & write you laterrrr,
M
an interface for sending class 0 sms would be very cool. Ive made up a basic interface that uses vijays program but its pretty crappy, just two boxs for text and the phone number and a send button :lol: thats about as far as my vb skills go!
Well, I haven't VB skills at all :wink:
Ryanmt:
I've tried carty flash messenger, which has the same GUI as your app, but no paste and phonebook if the app u compiled has cut and paste options at least, then we're at a good point (since u can copy the number from the phonebook and paste into the program ) can u post the app here?
Cheers, MocciJ
just hunting on the net to find some info on accessing contacts
who'd ahve thought they would make it so hard to add a paste option :S
if anybody could give me some pointers ide be willing to have a go at making it all work. But as it stands i could write it easily in java but dont understand the tutorials for C#
glad to see that there are upgrades... flashy sms are pretty cool... Must thank Ryanmt..
Best regards, MocciJ
Have you tried Jgui A.SMS ? It can send class0 smses.
hmm, I wanted a some more simplier app, just as Ryanmt thought.. But in any case I'll try it :wink:
MocciJ
I saw one in the msdn site
you can change in the provider options to change betweent classes
the example there sends in class 0
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnnetcomp/html/netcfsendsms.asp
Hi,
I have a T650i and I would like to transfer my SMS from that phone to my Xperia X1.
I've seen many threads explaining how to transfer contacts from older SE-phones, but nothing about SMS. Can it be done? I used to do use MyPhoneExplorer, but since it doesn't support WM, it's not an option anymore.
Thanks
save them to your SIM if possible!?
i remmeber older phones saving SMS on the simcard only. not sure if a winmo phone can use these
Thanks, but the problem is that I have around 900 SMS and the sim only accepts 30.
Is there any other way to do it through the PC?
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
u should to an T650i forum and ask there. once u manage to squeeze te SMS into outlook somehow, u can probably just sync them
achmed20 said:
900sms? i bet 5$ that u dont even need half of them oO
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I write approx. 900 SMS each month and the same amount I get back. But therefore I have hardly any calls. Good for me that I've got a SMS-flatrate
According the problem:
In which file format does myphoneexplorer save the transferred SMS? It has to be possible to convert these to a usable format. Maybe it would be enough to have all the SMS as a text-file on your X1 so you can read through if needed?
I have problems with the X1 everytime I have that much SMS stored (messaging software does not open, it does not respond to key presses and so on)
MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in many formats: txt, csv, xml, html, right click and export.
I used MyPhoneExplorer to backup sms's on my K800i, i have every single sms i ever received in the K800's lifetime (2 years).
And while in this subject, i'll ask the following question:
Is there in WinMo a way to backup sms like i already do with with K800 and MyPhoneExplorer? a way to backup the sms's and save them to the computer in some readable format?
Since MyPhoneExplorer saves the SMS archive in txt, csv, xml, html, is there any way of transfering them (as sms, NOT as a text file) to the same sms inbox on the X1?
Try SMSimport. It's a freeware that imports and exports in XML. It's a simple exe that you run directly on the phone.
http://wince.nasenbaeren.net/smsimport/
You may have to edit the names of the folders in the XML to make it compatible with your X1.
You can just make an export file from it first to see the XML import structure.
Hi. I'm new to this community and I'm very impressed. Congrats
I've tried once to import SMS via SMSImport, but it always said 'Invalid XML' or sth. like that although I rearranged the order in the XML as SMSImport seemed to want it.
Has anybody solved this issue?
THX
I use OEExport. It exports to Outlook Express with the folders intact (Inbox, Deleted, Sent etc). It has an option to export to xml too, IIRC.
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My question, is why on earth would anyone need to keep all those SMS?
I mean, unless your girlfriend doesn't tell you she loves you enough and you need to keep the texts, or if youre keeping them for evidence (for some reason) or maybe if you have a friend like I do who gets sent joke SMSs and decides to forward 700 of them to you when he's on flatrate weekend SMS just to piss you off because your phone becomes unusable for pretty much the entire weekend.
Please enlighten me.
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
0_o
maedox said:
Would it help if I tell you that some people like to keep records of all their SMS in/out.
I had a girlfriend a few years ago that wrote down every single SMS in a notebook. No, I'm not kidding. She wasn't that much into computers obviously.
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Nope, it seems it's still beyond all comprehension of mine. Do you guys also record all voice conversations you make?
I mean, keeping your text messages is hardly like keeping a box of love letters or something now is it?
I'm as much as cyborg as the next guy, I am so electronically inclined that the gadgets I carry and use will probably fuse to me one day anyway, BUT i just don't find anything anyone has to say to me by text _that_ interesting or _that_ important
I'm not taking a swing at you guys or anything, I just really would like to understand, I'm a happier person when i understand things.
Like, ok, I keep the odd text message about things people have said to me, because theyre just downright fantastic for my street cred (if you know what I mean) but that's simply because some of it is just so good, nobody would believe me if i just told them myself, even if i quoted it word for word.
I'm with you. I usually don't need to think twice about throwing away messages when doing a hard reset. Although, as you say, there are some that need to be kept safe forever.
But this is not what the topic's about.
O.k. guys, I'm convinced now. I won't spend any minute anymore in thinking about how to transfer my SMS back. 99% of all that stuff I would rather likely never need again in the future and if I really need it, it is still on my PC.
Nevertheless - thank you!
Greetz
Why backup sms ?
Some of my SMS contain info I need, I am just too lazy to save it when I get it - like an address, or rocket launch code just plain I like to have my SMS conversations available to refresh my memory in case I need it.
From time to time I want to do upgrade or other destructive thing and I don't want to loose my messages. I would like to keep a copy of all my SMS in outlook 2007 but my cheapskate uprising and empty wallet steer me out of paid software, I am going to try programs mentioned in previous posts but if someone knows about some great synchronization or transfer or WhateverYouCallIt software please keep us informed about it.
Thank you all for great site.
i think MOBILedit works for you.
google it for the main website.
hope it helped
Is there a possible regedit, which could allow us to delete emails in the preview mode (the same way we can delete, forward, or reply in the preview mode of SMS text messages)? It would be nice if we didn't have to open every single email in order to delete it. Anyone have a workaround for eliminating this extra step? Thanks if you've got one to share.
I would also like to know this. A way of marking an email as read from the preview would be helpful too.
Thirded.
This would be awesome.
Yeah! I would also like this.
Been asked before, but yes I would like this too!! Having to open an email to have it marked as read is annoying when you have quite a few that you dont actually need to read in detail there and then!!
I'm interested also
Still no clue ?
Anything on this yet ?