As most of you will know, the iTunes application on the iPhone supports requesting certain tracks which are available on a central "iTunes server" which runs the iTunes DJ playlist.
as an example:
a PC connected to your audio system runs iTunes in Itunes DJ mode, everybody with an iPhone / iPod touch connected to the same network as the server can request a track from the iTunes DJ playlist. This is a very nice feature during parties as everybody can choose the track he wants to hear.
QUESTION:
does an app like this exist for the windows mobile platform?
Related
HTC phones have become more and more media oriented, and the blackstone, with an aestheticly appealing music player and 8 gb memcard enclosed, as well as a headphone jack, is definitely contending as an iPod replacement. However, a lot of people already have or have had iPods, and with all those playlists... well, there really isn't a good substitute. There are roundabout ways to transfer it all through WMP or other things, but nothing especially good.
I bring you Black Berry Media Sync, or Salling Media Sync Pro. Both sync just like an iPod. I'm not looking for something that's just as visually appealing, just for something with the same functionality. Anyway, since I can't code, I figured I might as well unleash the idea. I put it in the Blackstone forum because the Touch HD is definitely the most media oriented HTC so far.
Please, if anyone can code, this is a forum for ideas. I can't do much, but go ahead and try!
I second this request. It is the MAIN feature I miss from my iPhone.
I would add however that whatever the solution is that it works on a Mac too.
Windows media player together with ActiveSync or without it can sync media, except much better than iTunes in that it won't do the stupid renaming of files and your library will be accessible to any application including itunes. Apart from this, almost any media player for Windows can sync with external drives and devices. So I fail to see what you are complaining about. There's much more functionality available compared to ipod!
Musicfone is an interesting solution to sync with Itunes . I am using it for the podcasts and I am
Regards
Okay, musicfone seems nice, but I'm talking specifically Windows Media Player for WinMo. Probably the main focus isn't transferring music, as I can already do that by syncing iTunes with WMP and WMP with my phone with Active Sync, but instead translating iTunes playlists into WMP playlists. Good idea? Please, if anyone knows willing coders, ask.
Hi Guys,
I am new to the world of Windows Mobile having got my TP2 on Saturday which is my first Windows Mobile phone. Prior to this I had an iPhone 3G. I am trying to find a media player which has similar functionality to the "smart playlists" available in iTunes. I would like to be able to create some playlists based on ratings (e.g All Tracks with 4 stars).
So far I have found Pocket Player 4 which has some of these playlists built in but I have been unable to find a way to create my own ones. I know I can hack the existing ones but I was looking for something a bit cleaner. Do any media players for WinMo exist with this kind of functionality? I have tried some of the free ones (Kinoma Free Play, Nitrogen etc) but I have been unable to find what I'm looking for. Does anyone know if any of the pay ones have this available? If not I guess I will just stick with Pocket Player but I don't want to buy it yet incase something better exists.
Other than this minor issue I am loving my new toy .
have you tried creating a smart playlist with windows media player on your computer...then sync it (using windows media player) to your phone?
Yeah, but as soon as you copy the playlist to the device it just becomes a static dumb playlist. I was looking for proper smart playlist support on the device itself where they playlist would update on the device without the need for syncing.
I'm thinking I will just settle on Pocket Player and hack the files to suit my needs. I am quite surprised that such a feature is not in more of the WinMo media players though.
groovebiscuit said:
Yeah, but as soon as you copy the playlist to the device it just becomes a static dumb playlist. I was looking for proper smart playlist support on the device itself where they playlist would update on the device without the need for syncing.
I'm thinking I will just settle on Pocket Player and hack the files to suit my needs. I am quite surprised that such a feature is not in more of the WinMo media players though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so you're saying you add a song to a certain playlist then you want the mp3 to automatically download to the phone when in a data connection? thats a nice feature but alot of people wouldn't want there phone to use that much data at once, i believe if i'm already at a computer adding to my playlist i might as well have my phone synced because it will be charging and adding the songs the much much faster. But i do see how it could be useful, for instance if you're not at your home computer and want to add 1 or 2 songs to a playlist. But i guess the would only work if I actually PURCHASED all my music,
p-slim said:
so you're saying you add a song to a certain playlist then you want the mp3 to automatically download to the phone when in a data connection? thats a nice feature but alot of people wouldn't want there phone to use that much data at once, i believe if i'm already at a computer adding to my playlist i might as well have my phone synced because it will be charging and adding the songs the much much faster. But i do see how it could be useful, for instance if you're not at your home computer and want to add 1 or 2 songs to a playlist. But i guess the would only work if I actually PURCHASED all my music,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, no; that's not what I mean at all. I've probably just not explained it very well.
In Windows Media Player on the PC you can create an auto playlist. So for example I create a playlist called "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" and set it to play all songs that are rated 5 stars, it would then list all the tracks in my Library that have 5 stars. Then if I play a couple of tracks from my Library that are not rated and I rate them with 5 stars they would then automatically appear in my "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" auto-playlist; I would not need to add them to it manually.
I would like to be able to emulate this functionality on the device. As it stands at the moment if I create such a playlist in Windows Media Player and sync it to the device it will only sync the songs currently in the playlist. I cannot then give tracks on the device a 5 star rating and have them automatically added to the playlist on the device UNTIL I do a sync with the PC.
I hope I've explained it a bit better.
I'm thinking I will either just live with the Windows Media Player route for now and pick up Pocket Player at some point in the future.
Thanks for the input though guys, much appreciated.
groovebiscuit said:
No, no; that's not what I mean at all. I've probably just not explained it very well.
In Windows Media Player on the PC you can create an auto playlist. So for example I create a playlist called "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" and set it to play all songs that are rated 5 stars, it would then list all the tracks in my Library that have 5 stars. Then if I play a couple of tracks from my Library that are not rated and I rate them with 5 stars they would then automatically appear in my "All Songs With 5 Star Rating" auto-playlist; I would not need to add them to it manually.
I would like to be able to emulate this functionality on the device. As it stands at the moment if I create such a playlist in Windows Media Player and sync it to the device it will only sync the songs currently in the playlist. I cannot then give tracks on the device a 5 star rating and have them automatically added to the playlist on the device UNTIL I do a sync with the PC.
I hope I've explained it a bit better.
edit: nevermind i fully understand now, you want the phone itself to create the autoplaylist. windows mobile media player sucks and isn't that advanced but i defintely would agree with what you want. hopefully they are able to port the zune hd music player to their phones.
I'm thinking I will either just live with the Windows Media Player route for now and pick up Pocket Player at some point in the future.
Thanks for the input though guys, much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
oh ok i understand. I do have mine set up like that. if you try to use the auto playlist that populates by windows media player then it will not work, but if you create your own auto playlist that picks up every song lets say abover 4 stars, you can then sync that playlist to your phone. i have mine set up that way. on my desktop its called favorites and everytime i rate a song it will show up in favorites if its rated above 4 stars, and when i sync it will then be synced to my phones playlist. Basically what you want i do all the time.
p-slim said:
oh ok i understand. I do have mine set up like that. if you try to use the auto playlist that populates by windows media player then it will not work, but if you create your own auto playlist that picks up every song lets say abover 4 stars, you can then sync that playlist to your phone. i have mine set up that way. on my desktop its called favorites and everytime i rate a song it will show up in favorites if its rated above 4 stars, and when i sync it will then be synced to my phones playlist. Basically what you want i do all the time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but I want to be able to rate a song already on the device itself and have it added to the auto playlist on the device without the need for a PC. Does that make sense?
I would like Itunes on my HD2 as all my songs are currently in Itunes and don't want to start all over again with windows media player. Is this possible and NO I don't want to go buy an Iphone as my HD2 rules
Jammie_1989 said:
NO I don't want to go buy an Iphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why not?
You seem bent on using a terrible piece of software, why not also a terrible phone?
Try Salling Media Sync
If you want to sync the playlists from the iTunes in your PC with your HD2, then you can go for Salling Media Sync. Its Free
There is also an excellent music/ internet radio player and iTunes sync software called Pocket Tunes costing $20, but available for a 15 day trial.
For the HD2 you'd need an extra 'skin' downloaded for it to work, and some of the menu options are a little less finger friendly as they are designed for stylus use, but still quite usable.
The PC client will sync iTunes files and playlists (though not those with DRM, as that's not allowed by Apple). The demo version won't work with WMA files as Microsoft don't allow that!
We did a review of this on 4WinMobile!, though its not been updated for a while
The only reason for having itunes would be the podcasts but this guy has fixed that for us.
He has converted the itunes xml to html using google appspot. So you can now access itunes store and download podcasts straight to your device. It is not the nicest UI but works on IE Opera and skyfire.
http://app-store.appspot.com
If someone wants to make it all nice and tidy feel free.
Just did a search on the forum and noticed that no one had mentioned iTunes Agent (http://ita.sourceforge.net/).
"iTunes Agent is a tiny application which rests in your system tray, constantly looking for devices being connected to your system. If a device it recognizes is connected it enables you to manage it via a playlist in iTunes. You may even associate your player with a Smart Playlist, such as "Party Shuffle", and always have a new collection of tracks on your player!
When you are done modifying the list of tracks for your player you can synchronize it with two small mouse-clicks!"
I thought it was good to mention as i have a itunes server service which i use for music and also a ipod touch and keeping them all in sync inc HD2 and any other device is very handy.
http://www.binaryfortress.com/itunes-sync/
This does a similar sort of thing, doesnt need to start with windows and hide in your tray though!
itunes and HTC HD2
Can itunes be downloaded and purchase the songs, games, and music on the
windows os? Are the games scaled to work on the HTC HD2? If so, how do you do this?
nuke1201 said:
Can itunes be downloaded and purchase the songs, games, and music on the
windows os? Are the games scaled to work on the HTC HD2? If so, how do you do this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
music will work videos might work and games defiantly wont work at all.
itunes sync
Found a very good free app (doubletwist) that syncronizes itunes / iphoto/ video libraries between the Mac and any storage device. I have been using it on the HTC HD2 for a week and it syncs all the playlists from itunes and even photos and videos. it is linked to amazon music store and content can be downloaded directly. The interface is just like itunes and seems very very easy to use...just select your device from the panel, select playlists and click sync....all the playlists created get recognised by the HTC sense media player.. google doubletwist and download ...and you are all set.....
doubletwist
doesn't work for me. my hd2 is running windows mobile 6.5 and while the app recognizes my device after it's plugged into my computer and also sees the itunes files and playlists, nothing shows up after the supposed sync takes place.
Interested in such an app for my HD2 on WM 6.5
Tried Itunes agent, not really user friendly and didnt manage to add my HD2 on it.
Ive got loads on myusic on itunes, would like to put one of my playlist songs (around 500 mbs of music) on my HD2.. is there a simple way? Copying items from itunes doesnt seem to work.. and there is a mix of MP3 files and AAC files... will they read allright on HD2?
If they where bought from the iTunes store..and no explicitly DRM free, then no, they will not work no matter how you copy them to your device.
A week ago I posted about the TuneLink car adapter that allowed me to use Bluetooth to Aux in in my car. With this app in place my phone is now my sole source of media outside of my house.
The problem I have is there is no native desktop software for Android music. Zune doesn't sync with android and recently switched to a zpl playlist format that adds too many steps to move files from Zune-> Windows Media-> To my Evo.
Doubletwist just isn't a finished product. The desktop application is lackluster and slow. Moreover I hate their media player, I prefer MIUI's player or the stock Droid player.
My answer was to give Itunes a try. We all know it manages music well and adds and adds artwork but I never tried a 3rd party sync platform.
My answer was Tunesync. It's an expensive $5 app that manages and syncs playlists wirelessly between my EVO and Itunes. Works well and doesn't eat up much battery life. For me this is perfect because I only have the 8gb stock memory card and I don't need my entire library on my phone, just my favorite playlists.
Finally, I used Windows Live Mesh to sync the "My Music" folders between my laptop and my desktop just in case I want to update my phone from the road or on vacation. I recommend this setup for anyone looking to manage their music.
Doubletwist airsync works well too..its just slow.
The Doubletwist desktop software is garbage. I need something more polished like Winamp, Zune, Itunes.
I use itunes for my desktop music. I just use doubletwist to transfer my music. Can't wait for google to finish up google music with the native sync service.
I agree that Doubletwist is not usable. For starters, they claim that they cannot sync smart playlists from iTunes. You can sync them to start, but if your playlist is updated, doubletwist won't pick up on the update. I mean, the main reason I want to sync with itunes is because of the smart playlists in itunes, which I LOVE. Doubletwist staff claims that it is due to iTunes' locked down system. That is bogus, because other apps do it fine.
Instead of tunesync, I suggest isyncr:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrtstudio.iSyncr
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrtstudio.iSyncr.WiFi
The UI isn't flashy, but all I need is something to sync my itunes playlists to my phone. It just works. The wifi addon is excellent. It recently got a feature called "live playlists" which is just like itunes' smart playlists, so you can create your own playlists on your phone from the music you sync to your device. The developer is really on top of things - he responds quickly to emails and is always adding features. He recently added the ability to upsync your photos and video, as well as the amazon mp3s you buy on your phone. I love it.
iTunes is the worst media manager for Windows IMHO. I'm surprised nobody mentioned MediaMonkey... it puts all others to shame.
For wireless sync with Android, WinAMP is definitely the way to go. I just can't give up PowerAMP on my Android, so I can live without wi-sync.
itunes is horrible on windows. I love it on my mac though. (I don't mean feature wise)
Anyone who says iTunes is good is using a Mac. That **** is like a virus on Windows.
I agree with a previous poster...Media Monkey.