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Here is the manual and getting started for the G1
getting started http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30235.pdf
full manual http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30234.pdf
It also appeared on T-Mobile's site, http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm30234.pdf.
Websites that speak about it say that it looks rather unprofessional, and the UI is unconsistent. Can't say that I noticed that, maybe I'm not that much of a "professional" as them. It certainly is a fun interface, though. And those big buttons simply mean it's designed to be used with fingers, not with a stylus (which the G1 doesn't even have).
And I must say it's the first user manual with little jokes for example:
Use only batteries and accesories from the original manufacturer of your phone. Hint: if it's being sold out of someone's trunk, walk away.
or
Water will damage your phone and accesories - even as a small amount such as water droplets from a soda in your car cup-holder, melting snowflakes, tears of joy, squirt-gun crossfire or steam from hot water in the kitchen or bathroom.
metempsihoza said:
And those big buttons simply mean it's designed to be used with fingers, not with a stylus (which the G1 doesn't even have).
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It has a capacitive touch screen like the iPhone, a stylus won't work with it, has to be done with your finger. Even fingernails are a no-go, so if they don't make the buttons big enough the device is very hard to navigate.
here is a link with a pdf for the tmo reps product and service guide....."selling ponts" to get customer to buy!
http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/t-mobile/180-t-mobile-g1-product-service-guide.html
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6262341/g1-Full-Manual
LOOK WHAT I FOUND>>>SOME MORE READING MATERIAL!!!!!!!!!!!
its the full manual not the getting started
And should someone want to download that one that rantrav mentioned, use the tmo address in the post above, substituting 30234 for 30235 in the filename.
beartard said:
And should someone want to download that one that rantrav mentioned, use the tmo address in the post above, substituting 30234 for 30235 in the filename.
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Nice Find!
it is alot like the iphone. very very intuitive. ive only misclicked a couple of times in the 2.5 days i havent been able to put it down LOL
Just for clarity:
The manuals referred to above are the
"Quick Start Guide" and the
"User Manual"
These are not the "Service Manual" just in case anyone is looking for that.
www.mikechannon.net
Mike
Do you need the service manual?
I can post it... is that legit?
lifegrasp said:
Do you need the service manual?
I can post it... is that legit?
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It depends... either way can you PM it to me? LOL
I'd like to see this manual as well! Please!
G1 Manual UK version
I've noticed that the UK version is different. If anyone is interested, I've uploaded it to RapidShare (says it will be available for download only 10 times) and ZippyShare (should be available forever as long as it gets downloaded at least once a month).
I can't check if getting started PDFs are different as the US version does not load for me. I guess they are different, so I might upload UK version too tonight.
Service Manual:
HTC Dream SM (A04).pdf
Mike
Umm... what is the screenshot on page 15?
G1 simulator (Flash)
just want to share to all G1 new comer,
here is a good tutorial to answer some of your basic how-to questions.
please take a look,
https://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/dm40131.dhtm?&A2L.SERVICE=Demo
Thanks Fellas :thumbsup:
my phone stuck on the logo screen reset does the same thing please help
I'd like to get a list of which shops in which cities actually have HD2's available for demonstrations. (Personally I'd like somewhere in London, but other people will want them in other places!)
Obviously feel free to tell us what you thought of the phone when you demo'ed it.
Shasarak said:
I'd like to get a list of which shops in which cities actually have HD2's available for demonstrations. (Personally I'd like somewhere in London, but other people will want them in other places!)
Obviously feel free to tell us what you thought of the phone when you demo'ed it.
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Got one to test
I have been playing with it since last week, and some things are great - somethings I dont like. I don't really want to say much as it may not be final software.
I have to say I'm very suspicious of all these people who claim to have a device 'but can't say anything because they might get into trouble'...
I believe Belafont because at the very least he posted pics and feedback....
hey..maybe I've got on here to play with...can't say anything of course...you'll have to wait......
yeah right
WildWayz said:
Got one to test
I have been playing with it since last week, and some things are great - somethings I dont like. I don't really want to say much as it may not be final software.
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You could still say but put a disclosure that it might not be the final ROM.
To be fair, the release date is just around the corner so we'll get more answers soon.
There's supposed to be another announcement on the 4th Nov, not sure what other details they can give but still going ot be interesting nonetheless.
exactly my point, if wildwayz has one as he claims, why doesn't he tell us about it...show us some pics etc....
with the release just around the corner, what difference would it make to divulge some info?
chill guys
some of us would put our professional lives at risk by speaking out now.
Its called an NDA - Non-Disclosure Agreement
And before you ask - no I aint got one
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exactly my point, if wildwayz has one as he claims, why doesn't he tell us about it...show us some pics etc....
with the release just around the corner, what difference would it make to divulge some info?
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Show you some photos? What of? The outside of the case?
I DO have one - even posted a photo of the battery in another thread. I just installed the final ROM on the HTCPedia site - which has fixed the issue with Panoramic Photos.
Not played too much with the final ROM tho...
The reason I can't say too much is because it was a test ROM and I don't want to say anything negative about it as it doesnt give HTC fair chance to correct the issues.
What do you want to know about the HTC HD2? I'll try to answer it as best I can - bare in mind, I am new to Windows Mobile (Last time I used one, was back in the days of the PDAs ).
Speaking as the OP, I'm actually not very intererested in people who claim to have an HD2 "on test"; the main motivation behind this thread is to identify places (e.g. shops) where members of the general public can go to get HD2 demos of their own. In the early stages of a phone's release cycle, even if a given chain sells the phone, any given branch may well not have enough of them to be able to offer demonstrations. If we can find which places do, that'll be a good start.
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What do you want to know about the HTC HD2? I'll try to answer it as best I can - bare in mind, I am new to Windows Mobile (Last time I used one, was back in the days of the PDAs ).
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I want to ask about screen material..
Is it made a tempered glass or flexy-plastic ??
May I humbly suggest that we don't attack every single person who comes to the forum and says he has the device, immediately declaring his/her words to be a hoax? Each and every one of us can make their own judgment, believe what we read or not, but this thread is asking for user experience, and I simply don't see the point in discouraging people right away. Also, demanding proof is kind of silly. If I had the device and read this thread, I'd most probably just leave - I certainly wouldn't bother to take pictures of myself with the phone or prove that I have it in any other way.
We're all anxious to get our hands on the beast, but let's be reasonable!
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I want to ask about screen material..
Is it made a tempered glass or flexy-plastic ??
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Tempered glass - well it feels like the iPhone. I think it may have some kinda special coating on it - smudges show up, but in the morning they are gone (Pilkinson make some glass like that, I believe).
Plus it is capacitive.
When you factory reset it, the setup wizard is very similar to the Hero - asks you to test the typing etc, choose mobile operator, connect to wi-fi then set up GMail, Exchange or another email account.
You can remove items from the Sense bar - so if you dont use Twitter etc, they can be removed.
WildWayz said:
Tempered glass - well it feels like the iPhone. I think it may have some kinda special coating on it - smudges show up, but in the morning they are gone (Pilkinson make some glass like that, I believe).
Plus it is capacitive.
When you factory reset it, the setup wizard is very similar to the Hero - asks you to test the typing etc, choose mobile operator, connect to wi-fi then set up GMail, Exchange or another email account.
You can remove items from the Sense bar - so if you dont use Twitter etc, they can be removed.
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Hey WildWayz, thanks for your input
Could you maybe check how SPB Mobile Shell is running on it!?
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
niknik76 said:
Hey WildWayz, thanks for your input
Could you maybe check how SPB Mobile Shell is running on it!?
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
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Will do - but won't it conflict with the SENSE UI?
That's exactly why you are asked to try running it - to find out whether it conflicts with Manila.
I think you'll need to disable it to run SPB Shell properly. Previously it was done in Settings - Personal - Items - uncheck TouchFLO3D.
vangrieg said:
That's exactly why you are asked to try running it - to find out whether it conflicts with Manila.
I think you'll need to disable it to run SPB Shell properly. Previously it was done in Settings - Personal - Items - uncheck TouchFLO3D.
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yes exactly
wildwayz, great that you want to test it! maybe you would post your results in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4868624#post4868624
-so more people could benefit from your findings
one question I do have is about the notification LED.
on previous WM phones (I'm thinking of my Orbit in particular) there were two LEDs. These were used for notification of charging, power, sms, bluetooth etc.
the original HD only had one, and it was very small and hard to see
how big and easy to see is the LED on the HD2?
...is there something to win for the best OT?
WildWayz said:
Tempered glass - well it feels like the iPhone. I think it may have some kinda special coating on it - smudges show up, but in the morning they are gone (Pilkinson make some glass like that, I believe).
Plus it is capacitive.
When you factory reset it, the setup wizard is very similar to the Hero - asks you to test the typing etc, choose mobile operator, connect to wi-fi then set up GMail, Exchange or another email account.
You can remove items from the Sense bar - so if you dont use Twitter etc, they can be removed.
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wow, multitouch like iphone and the lovely 1ghz processor is the reason I'm willing to sell my Touch HD for the HD2. And wow, so happy to hear that it is tempered glass and not the bull**** resistive multitouch screen someone has been claiming.
precsmo said:
wow, multitouch like iphone and the lovely 1ghz processor is the reason I'm willing to sell my Touch HD for the HD2. And wow, so happy to hear that it is tempered glass and not the bull**** resistive multitouch screen someone has been claiming.
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Yeah I always found it pretty weird that some people were convinced that the HD2 carried a resistive touch screen when HTC themselves had gone on record saying that it was capacitive. Just proves how ignorant some people can be.
Got to try out the phone at the local expo over the weekend in Helsinki and pre-ordered one today. Was very impressed by the performance and looks of the HD2.
I am due an upgrade on my phone and I am trying to decide between an iphone and a HTC HD2. I prefer the HTC as a phone but the apps on the iphone is making it a hard decision.
I am on the road constantly as a field technician so would like to have sat nav, music, games and videos on the phone to keep me entertained when I am in the middle of nowhere with some down time.
Is there anything that can be done to the HTC to make it more versatile like a jailbroken iphone? would the HTC be able to do what I am looking for or am I better going for an iphone?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer me some advice.
AAlan said:
I am due an upgrade on my phone and I am trying to decide between an iphone and a HTC HD2. I prefer the HTC as a phone but the apps on the iphone is making it a hard decision.
I am on the road constantly as a field technician so would like to have sat nav, music, games and videos on the phone to keep me entertained when I am in the middle of nowhere with some down time.
Is there anything that can be done to the HTC to make it more versatile like a jailbroken iphone? would the HTC be able to do what I am looking for or am I better going for an iphone?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer me some advice.
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When you say "Is there anything that can be done to the HTC to make it more versatile like a jailbroken iphone?"
What exactly do you mean?
The HD2 is a very versatile handset from the start, and no need to jailbreak to get full functionality
rp-x1 said:
When you say "Is there anything that can be done to the HTC to make it more versatile like a jailbroken iphone?"
What exactly do you mean?
The HD2 is a very versatile handset from the start, and no need to jailbreak to get full functionality
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thanks for the reply, what I mean is are you limited to what can be put onto the HTC? I have been into several shops stocking them and the staff dont seem to know much about them and keep trying to sell me an iphone, possibly because they are getting better commisson on the iphone?
I have looked around online for info as to what can be put onto the HTC but cant seem to find out much about it. applications seem to be very limited for what seems to be a better device than the iphone.
would the HTC be able to meet the criteria I have for the phone?
AAlan said:
would the HTC be able to meet the criteria I have for the phone?
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Heh - and then some.
You need to look for software for windows mobile, not HTC. The only real things you need to consider are that you need software that is fully touch compatible, it needs to be WVGA compatible (you can get away with a lot of VGA software too, as they mostly rely on the width in portrait, which is the same for both resolutions), and is it for the right version of Windows. Normally, you can get away with anything that is Windows Mobile 6.1 onwards, but that's not always the case.
Just google for windows mobile software and forget about jailbait iPhones. It ultimately comes down to whether you want a smartphone or a toy (I'm not actually knocking the iPhone - I think it's great, but it is a toy).
Incidentally, don't worry about MarketPlace too much. Most people think it's crap and there's a reason for that... it pretty much is. If you want apps wrapped up in one place, try OpenMarket. You can get it here...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/omarket/
Have fun mate.
johncmolyneux said:
Heh - and then some.
You need to look for software for windows mobile, not HTC. The only real things you need to consider are that you need software that is fully touch compatible, it needs to be WVGA compatible (you can get away with a lot of VGA software too, as they mostly rely on the width in portrait, which is the same for both resolutions), and is it for the right version of Windows. Normally, you can get away with anything that is Windows Mobile 6.1 onwards, but that's not always the case.
Just google for windows mobile software and forget about jailbait iPhones. It ultimately comes down to whether you want a smartphone or a toy (I'm not actually knocking the iPhone - I think it's great, but it is a toy).
Incidentally, don't worry about MarketPlace too much. Most people think it's crap and there's a reason for that... it pretty much is. If you want apps wrapped up in one place, try OpenMarket. You can get it here...
Have fun mate.
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thanks for that.
I have seen iphones running sat nav with lane assist and speed camera alerts, would it be possible to get the same kind of sat nav on the HTC and if so how much would it cost me?
Really dont want to go down the iphone route like half of the rest of the world has, would like to get something a little different.
The HD2 can do whatever the iPhone can...minus the ease of use [sometimes]. Sometimes it doesn't work out of the box because there are countless version of builds for manila and such...and only one for iphone. Pretty much the only gripe people will have is that they have to go and FIND whatever it is that they're looking for on the HD2, whereas everything is readily available on the app store for the iphone. You should take some time and play with each device and see what the pros and cons are for YOU. If it's too troublesome for you to dig through different versions of a program to play your video or whatnot, then it's better to get an iphone.
AAlan said:
thanks for that.
I have seen iphones running sat nav with lane assist and speed camera alerts, would it be possible to get the same kind of sat nav on the HTC and if so how much would it cost me?
Really dont want to go down the iphone route like half of the rest of the world has, would like to get something a little different.
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in the uk we get co pilot bundled with the phone as standard. it works perfectly and integrates very will with the phones gps. i used to run tom tom (latest version) on my omnia, which is also a win mobile phone so see no reason why it shouldn't run well on the HD2 as well.
both tom tom and co pilot work with additional info such as speed cameras etc.
i am sure that google will be your friend, just search for navigation software windows mobile or similar and am sure plenty of results will ensue.
Mike
lude219 said:
The HD2 can do whatever the iPhone can...minus the ease of use [sometimes]. Sometimes it doesn't work out of the box because there are countless version of builds for manila and such...and only one for iphone. Pretty much the only gripe people will have is that they have to go and FIND whatever it is that they're looking for on the HD2, whereas everything is readily available on the app store for the iphone. You should take some time and play with each device and see what the pros and cons are for YOU. If it's too troublesome for you to dig through different versions of a program to play your video or whatnot, then it's better to get an iphone.
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thats a fair point, the reliability of the iphone is worrying me a bit as well. Are there any common issues with the HTC phone?
Chastiser said:
in the uk we get co pilot bundled with the phone as standard. it works perfectly and integrates very will with the phones gps. i used to run tom tom (latest version) on my omnia, which is also a win mobile phone so see no reason why it shouldn't run well on the HD2 as well.
both tom tom and co pilot work with additional info such as speed cameras etc.
i am sure that google will be your friend, just search for navigation software windows mobile or similar and am sure plenty of results will ensue.
Mike
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Thanks mike, is the co pilot software a trial period or is it a full version that will last as long as you want it?
AAlan said:
thats a fair point, the reliability of the iphone is worrying me a bit as well. Are there any common issues with the HTC phone?
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depends on the severity of the "issues." I'm on AT&T and have not encountered any kind of problems that some people have.
I don't have the faulty capacitive screen
I don't have any battery drainage issue (good for 2-3 days)
I don't have SMS not sending/receiving
I don't have SMS sending to the wrong person
The phone doesn't froze on me [unless it's my own doing]
etc etc..
So outside of you installing some rogue software/program that cause whatever issues that you might encounter, the phone itself is as perfect as a smartphone goes. I can't really pinpoint anything significant problem about this phone.
lude219 said:
depends on the severity of the "issues." I'm on AT&T and have not encountered any kind of problems that some people have.
I don't have the faulty capacitive screen
I don't have any battery drainage issue (good for 2-3 days)
I don't have SMS not sending/receiving
I don't have SMS sending to the wrong person
The phone doesn't froze on me [unless it's my own doing]
etc etc..
So outside of you installing some rogue software/program that cause whatever issues that you might encounter, the phone itself is as perfect as a smartphone goes. I can't really pinpoint anything significant problem about this phone.
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are most of those problems possibly just down to settings being incorrect or as you say installing something that the phone software doesnt like?
AAlan said:
are most of those problems possibly just down to settings being incorrect or as you say installing something that the phone software doesnt like?
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Some is hardware and some is software (ie, manila). Pretty much all of the problems I've listed have been solved ever since their early release back in Oct/Nov.
yeah, we all know that there are about 100.000 apps crusing around
but, let me say it, which one do you REALLY need?
my brothers got an ipod touch with about 100apps on it...but for everydayusing there are only a handful...
so i would say, that you can even find such apps for windows mobile...everything you really need...and not 100.000 apps, from which are about 98% useless imho.
DN41
lude219 said:
Some is hardware and some is software (ie, manila). Pretty much all of the problems I've listed have been solved ever since their early release back in Oct/Nov.
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so the handsets that are around in shops now should be all good then hopefully?
DN41 said:
yeah, we all know that there are about 100.000 apps crusing around
but, let me say it, which one do you REALLY need?
my brothers got an ipod touch with about 100apps on it...but for everydayusing there are only a handful...
so i would say, that you can even find such apps for windows mobile...everything you really need...and not 100.000 apps, from which are about 98% useless imho.
DN41
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thats another fair point, dont need lots of apps just some to suit what I am looking for. a decent sat nav and video/internet would probably do me.
mh...one advice from myself: ask also in an apple forum
i think nearly everyone here will tell you only good things about hd2 and winmo
DN41
DN41 said:
mh...one advice from myself: ask also in an apple forum
i think nearly everyone here will tell you only good things about hd2 and winmo
DN41
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good point well made. ill do that.
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
the only thing i hate about Leo..is lack of apps..and since the made it on wm 6.5..no devs will pay any serious attention at this platform..and android aint any better..
First I was so anti iphone..but now..I'm even thinking about switching..for some good games..most of the part..
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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im the opposite,I love my hd2.best phone I've ever had.....
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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blah blah blah....yawn
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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I agree with you, planning to sell it soon.
anyway as i said the only thing is lack of apps..
compare the appstore to windows market..the second one is so empty..
HD2 is really one of the best phones ever..and its way better then ip..but..I love playing games so mush..and on ip there r some tight *** games..
And on WM 6.5 the only good game out there is zenonia..and it was ported from ip..
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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Ditto, but i can't afford to sell.
A bad batch?
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
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I have both an HD2 and an iPhone. HD2 is my work phone and the iPhone my private/games phone.
I do not have the problems on browsing, dataconnection or poor response on my HD2.
Some apps I installed did create those problems and I had to remove them.
There are lots of apps for the HD2 (though the number is decreasing since Microsoft decided to kill windows mobile) the problem is that there is not as much quality control as Apple imposes for the iphone and they are not easily accesible in a single appstore.
And I prefer the HD2 because it has a better screen
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
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All of them are bull****.
There is a perfectly good auto rotation app.
If you need to restart that often, You must have a bad leo. Mine work(ed) fine, untill I broke it.
Web browsing works PERFECTLY. Its a tonne better than the Iphone browsing ever was! And with Wifi - Its just as good as a desktop brower.
Poor touch response? Never had that. It feels just like any other captive screen to me. Probably responds better than all other ones Ive owned.
Lack of apps? Well noone can say thats a lie. I miss the appstore so much. But Ive come to realise PSX on a mobile phone is better than any game the app store ever had.
I do miss little fun apps, that were usless though.
I really think your either a apple fan boy, or have a bad leo.
Get your warrenty to change it, and try to love it again.]
Because All ive had from my phone is love, and even my friends who copied me and got one fell in love (and hell, they are from from exprets on phones so you'd think they would hate winmo)
donwhann said:
im the opposite,I love my hd2.best phone I've ever had.....
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X2... I love mine. I just customized it the way I wanted and its great...IMO...Tj
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!! -explain further/show proof? I have no problem
Lack of auto rotation in App's -as posted, there are numerous rotate apps
Lack of App's in general- If you did you're research on the phone you would know this, this is accross the whole WINMO estate, so not just the HD2, if you want shiny apps, you know where to go.
Continually having to restart- Yes, agreed when i was on stock rom i had to restart a lot but XDA had a lot of dedicatec chefs cooking roms for us where these issues do not happen
Web Browsing just does not work- I think you'll find it does, and perfectly well, give more details of your bad experience please
Poor response to touch!!- again, i fail to see this issue.
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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thats my 2 pence ^^ my updates in bold
I agree with the first for you said, they are major issues, i cant believe HTC didnt see these problems when they released it in the U.S...I'm looking to sell mine and get an N1..
Sell, sell, sell
I agree, a terrible phone.
I'll give you $100 for it.
SMASH LUDDITES not your machine
Luddites were actually cool, unlike you.
Why don't you really get something to complain about, like an iphone.
Tadgerman said:
Dataconnection!!!
Lack of auto rotation in App's
Lack of App's in general
Continually having to restart
Web Browsing just does not work
Poor response to touch!!
Just to name a few.
I wanted to love this phone. I spent a good month deciding what phone to get and this one seemed to fit the bill on paper. I have now had it for about two months and have wanted to smash it into a million pieces more times than I can remember. It has just got to the point that I'm putting it on ebay this afternoon.
I do think that the major flaw with this phone is Windows. Put Android on it and I am sure it would be amazing. For this reason a new HTC Desire is now on order.
Sorry to put this on here, but I need somewhere to vent my anger.
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personally i'd rather buy an iphone as another phone just for games then change my precious for it!!
hd2 is sooo tight!
Dataconnection: no problems at all. Wifi and H/G3 connections work without any problems. Fast and very stable.
Lack of auto rotation in apps: Plenty of apps with auto rotation. If not, you can force auto rotation with a tool.
Lack of apps in general: most USEFUL apps are available. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I like the games (3D and puzzle) that are on the market. I don't need most of the useless games of the iphone. iphone has more free games, but the price of the phone is much higher so you will pay the apps anyway.
Restart: I have the phone for 3 months now, 2 restarts because of freezes and mainly because of tweaking.
Webbrowsing: best I've ever experienced on a mobile phone. The screen is perfect for this, and everything feels very smooth and works like a laptop. One of the main reasons why I bought this phone.
Poor respons to touch: I really don't understand this point. The screen is very responsive and fast.
I think you have a bad product. I'm a serious user of this phone and I never experienced one of the above mentioned problems.
Flash your phone with one of the custom roms from xda and stop complaining about the HD2 or go and buy an iPhone. There are tons of solutions here on this forum...My HD2 is stable as a rock, if I have a problem I search the forum instead of complaining and telling everybody how bad the HD2 is.
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Flash your phone with one of the custom roms from xda and stop complaining about the HD2 or go and buy an iPhone. There are tons of solutions here on this forum...My HD2 is stable as a rock, if I have a problem I search the forum instead of complaining and telling everybody how bad the HD2 is.
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Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..
KidTech said:
Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..
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Hahaha, if you are scared of flashing HD2, voiding your warranty temporarily, you'd better not be here:-j.
I only agreed on 1 point, fun and small games, WVGA games for HD2 are not enough and I really miss Tunewiki and Layar. That's it. Best and most beautiful phone I've ever had
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Flashing the rom, voiding the warranty should never be the answer to fix a phone, should be functional from the start..You lose..
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Name a single phone that doens't have problems. Then please salt your hat, and eat it.
Voiding warrenty? Just flash to stock. Tmob havn't said a single thing about mine yet! even when I went into a shop with a clearly un-stock rom.
Is the HD2 still a good smart purchase nowdays with the androids and the Iphone 4 ?
It will be used for:
1. Book reading **
2. GPS
3. Phone calls
4. SMS/EMAIL/MSN Messenger
THAT IS ALL.
** Anyone know of good Ebook reading apps for HD2 ?
Thanks !
ιf u go to a lockal phone store u can see it n use it for testing etc, personaly i d buy it one more time if i had to buy a phone now..
i love the big screen n how quick it is but most of all i like thet u can do so much customizations.
from icons to whatever
if u dont have a lot of time to spend with it then buy something else...
because this phone makes u feelin that u r somnethin like a crazy scientist performing al theese mods and rom flashing
u choose!
Hey! It's a great for all these:
e-books: Check out AlReader2 - I'm addicted to it as a book-reader, and have churned through so many books on it. If you struggle finding it, PM me or look at my message history, I posted it somewhere (it's freeware).
GPS: Well I have TomTom, which I paid for, which is perfect. There's others out there ranging from free/cheap/pricey. And Google Maps works great with GPS, altho it's not suitable for car navigation unless you're happy with the top-down view.
Phone: No problems at all.
email: Fantastic, both for Outlook and other mail. Some people (and I'm one of them) find the keyboard a bit buggy, but it's replacable, and as an Email reader/short replies it's perfect.
I probably could go into more detail but me tired!
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Hey! It's a great for all these:
e-books: Check out AlReader2 - I'm addicted to it as a book-reader, and have churned through so many books on it. If you struggle finding it, PM me or look at my message history, I posted it somewhere (it's freeware).
GPS: Well I have TomTom, which I paid for, which is perfect. There's others out there ranging from free/cheap/pricey. And Google Maps works great with GPS, altho it's not suitable for car navigation unless you're happy with the top-down view.
Phone: No problems at all.
email: Fantastic, both for Outlook and other mail. Some people (and I'm one of them) find the keyboard a bit buggy, but it's replacable, and as an Email reader/short replies it's perfect.
I probably could go into more detail but me tired!
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(what i am about to do is a pet hate of mine) +1
The customization point is a bit extreme tbf. Yes, i would advise reading through the tips and tweaks threads (both performance and general) and yes, it helps if you spent a hour or so familiarising yourself with the UI and your hardware and software versions but once done it's a case of take yout time over it. The HD2 is the fastest smartphone (raw power wise) on the market ATM and that includes the iPhone 4G. It just takes a little bit more love to get how you want it then most other phones (tbh that's windows mobile all over). If you can accept that fact then buy a HD2 ASAP. if not enjoy you nokia or iphone. From experience i know i wouldn't
Thanks guys I think I am going to go for it.
Can I see some screenshots from the ebook reader ?
Also, can it withstand a random drop from ear-height ? Is that glass ultra-fragile ?
Silencer23 said:
Also, can it withstand a random drop from ear-height ? Is that glass ultra-fragile ?
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Try it and let us know.........
Silencer23 said:
Thanks guys I think I am going to go for it.
Can I see some screenshots from the ebook reader ?
Also, can it withstand a random drop from ear-height ? Is that glass ultra-fragile ?
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It's not "ultra fragile", but it's glass anyway. Depending how the phone will touch the ground it can break or not. But from what I've seen it's pretty resistant for little accidental drops.
Sorry - would love to set you up with a screenshot but I just read this and it's 4am now
Will try in the morning (or afternoon!) if I don't get called into work. I did hunt in Google Images for you when I did my OP but none showed it off in it's best light (e.g. full screen on the HD2's luscious screen.
Cracking the screen-wise, all I can suggest is to look after it - but anecdotally, while there's a lot of threads on here from people who have sadly dropped and cracked it, there's also a lot from people who have accidently dropped it onto hard ground from shoulder-height who are impressed to see not a single scratch or dent. I believe the biggest factor is if the screen lands on one of it's corners or falls flat onto something sharp.
Will try for a screengrab tomorrow
EDIT: Found a way! Bear in mind it's a low-res pic, looks crystal clear in real life.. There's loads of options like font size, background colour, line-spacing, and then you use swipes etc. to move the page/chapter.
Excellent |! Thanks |!
u deserve an iphone
I love my HD2 it is absolutly the best phone i have ever owned I have customized it to my every need thanks to xda-developers...
so go buy one, the iphone will bore you in a month
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Thanks guys I think I am going to go for it.
Also, can it withstand a random drop from ear-height ? Is that glass ultra-fragile ?
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It depends on the high and angle you drop it at, but the general consensus seems to be don't drop your phone. There was a thread where they dropped it from a couch and it broke. I've seen a thread where it broke from some guy getting out of a car (phone was in his lap) and it fell on concrete and broke. A lot of people have cracked their phone and have lambasted to HTC for having such a weak screen.
GPS: Bing has free turn-by-turn directions also.
Hi, not sure it would be a good idea signing up to a long contract at this point when there will be new phones coming a long soon, however the HD2 is probably going to be the last and greatest winmo6 handset available. If winmo6 is your thing then you have to get this Phone.
Well guys thanks to this forum I finally purchased my T-Mobile HD2.
Just pulled it out of the box, and i'm puzzled.
If anyone could direct me to reading materials on Sim Freeing it, adding different language keyboards, etc, i would appreciate it.
(or is everything on the sticky ? )
thanks !
enjoy it then, my advice is keep it stock for a while and then start modifiying it.. search the forum and u find everythin
welcome
Well I'll try.
It's just that I don't want to store stuff on it (contacts, data) when I know a new ROM would delete everything so I want to get this over with now
How do I SIM Unlock it btw ?
getting Hard SPL on and then flashing a cooked ROM should unlock the device for any SIM I believe.
On the subject of ebook readers, just a little plug for Freda.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581247
Silencer23 said:
Well guys thanks to this forum I finally purchased my T-Mobile HD2.
Just pulled it out of the box, and i'm puzzled.
If anyone could direct me to reading materials on Sim Freeing it, adding different language keyboards, etc, i would appreciate it.
(or is everything on the sticky ? )
thanks !
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gz
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