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Alternate SMS feature

Hi,
The SMS program (the gray/black one included on a stock Rhodium) is really buggy for me - dates/times being mixed up.
Example;
I send an SMS at 12:00 to my friend.
My friend then responds at 12:01 - but it shows up as if he had responded a few minutes earlier then the time that I sent the first message, say, 11:57
It's really wierd, and I'm not sure whats causing this.
All I do know is that I can't have this, seing how I text message _alot_.
Any suggestions on how to fix this, or how to get rid of the Rhodium SMS interface, back to the functional WM SMS interface?
Thanks!
EDIT: If you don't understand the problem, I'll make a video to demonstrate better.

I have the same problem, i dont really care but its strange anyway...

Are you sure that bot your phone and your friends phone are at the exact time?
Some phone don't write the time at which you receive the SMS but the time when you friend's send the SMS based on the time of his phone and sometime it takes the time of the server that relay the SMS

yup I had my GF adjust her clock so they are in sync. then no more problems!

I may be wrong here but, I think it does this when you text through the tf3d sms. When you read the message on the touch flo screen tap the all messages tab on the bottom left and text back that way. Then see if it still happens.
I'm not a huge texting fanatic but this is how I do all my texting. Through tf3d it doesn't do auto capitalization and such. At least I haven't found a way to do it.

Yes, thats what happens.
Supertrooper said:
I may be wrong here but, I think it does this when you text through the tf3d sms. When you read the message on the touch flo screen tap the all messages tab on the bottom left and text back that way. Then see if it still happens.
I'm not a huge texting fanatic but this is how I do all my texting. Through tf3d it doesn't do auto capitalization and such. At least I haven't found a way to do it.
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I also prefered the 'old', standard WM SMSinterface rather than this new one, due to this bug - and the lack of auto capitalization.
What would one do to disable the new tf3d smsinterface, and just go straight to the WM one?
Tapping the "all messages" tab on the bottom left just gets annoying after some time, and I really don't prefer it.
Are we looking forward to a ROMupdate from HTC anytime soon, hms?

Sebacestmoi_666 said:
Are you sure that bot your phone and your friends phone are at the exact time?
Some phone don't write the time at which you receive the SMS but the time when you friend's send the SMS based on the time of his phone and sometime it takes the time of the server that relay the SMS
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I synchronized my phones time with my girlfriends phone, and this still occurs - but only with the TF3D SMS program, not the WM one.
It's freaking me out.

I for example had a diferent problem. Someone sends me a message for example 13:56 and I only receive the message later, after I turn on the phone from standby. Calls sometimes give me unavailable. With my older mobile phone I didn't had any problem with that. I was thinking that the radio update will sort out the problem, but no good. Still the same problem. A big lag between send messages and received. Anyone know the cause. I had also the same problem in my Asus P535 but it fixed someway. Even with the phone connected, some times I need to make a call or activate the 3G GSM connection to receive the notification of the message.

Incoming SMS Msg Show wrong time stamp

I got my phone and am quite happy with it so far. I am on the Rogers network in Canada. Everything works great except that incoming msg are showing up 5 hours behind on the time stamp which throws off my sms threads as my msg time stamp correct on the way out.
So if I sent a msg at 9PM and they reply it shows there reply the same day but at 4PM of the same day? Any ideas why this is happening? It's happening from any number I get a txt from.
Thanks

Anyone having this issue or is it just me? I know this has been an issue in the past on various WM units but I'm not sure what the fix is with 6.5?
Anyone help please?

Hi.
Not sure how this connects to your problem, but usually (always) when i send text messages everything is datestamped correctly.
But when I use Phonelog to log my calls to calendar it is 5 hours off.
I have been bugging the developer for years now. But I am the only one who this happens too.
sad face.

My timestamps are exactly 5 hours behind. What developer are you trying to reach? What do you think the issue is? I think it must be a WM 6.5 issue or an network time issue? I've read about this before with other devices, just not 6.5 devices yet.
Anyone?
I'll do some more google research.

This app.
Every update he makes it still is 5 hours off.
Maybe u could give this app a try.
Great app. Barely works when it;s 5 hours off every time...
http://www.infinityball.com/phonelog
Somewhere there is a post on his site with me asking him to fix it.
It would be cool if there was a solution for all of us.
No other app does the funky time stamping...

Maybe this link will help you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527587

i dont have timezone diff but i got this issue
1st sms (i send him) my time show 12.00
2nd sms (his replY) his time show 11.50 on my mobile
mea his sms is infront of my sms as i only can sort by time or by name
end up if i sort the thread by using "sort by time" the whole thread went message..
as u know which is my send sms with his sms reply

no fix for this?

Got a friend from Starhub who had this issue on his Treo Pro. I'm not certain if the fault lies with Starhub or WM!

cannot be network as this is very standard.....
sms time stamp should use mobile owner time as timestamp..
i dont have this issue when i use on htc diamond

banton56 said:
I got my phone and am quite happy with it so far. I am on the Rogers network in Canada. Everything works great except that incoming msg are showing up 5 hours behind on the time stamp which throws off my sms threads as my msg time stamp correct on the way out.
So if I sent a msg at 9PM and they reply it shows there reply the same day but at 4PM of the same day? Any ideas why this is happening? It's happening from any number I get a txt from.
Thanks
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Hey, I have the exact problem, I am also using Rogers, and I also got the 5 hrs off. That makes all the msg received on the top.
Hope someone could help.

try this
it may work

Usually...
More often than not, SMS time stamping issues are something to do with the network provider BUT sometimes, it can be how the phone's SMS software is talking to the network provider.
I had a Nokia N96 be +6hrs out while a Samsung with exactly the same SIM card in it and thus on exactly the same network/account setup etc, the time stamping was perfectly correct.
I updated the ROM on the Nokia to a newer version and the time stamping was perfect again.
I highly recommend anyone experiencing SMS time stamping issues to apply the HTC SMS hotfix that became available in the past few days.

i applied the latest HTC sms hotfix but it dont work for me..
already email HTC to see they have any suggestion a not.
my friend clock is faster/slower than my by few min but it euff to mass up the whole chat as u dunno which is your ans with his reply... (to what i know is basic on friend mobile clock not the network as i tested with 2 mobile)
but it actually shouldn't work in this way as it should basic on our clock to go

i had email to HTC and herre is their reply (i havent try yet.. later than try)
Thank you for contacting HTC.
With regards to your query, please be advised to try:
1) Go from settings->menu->all settings->connections->connection setup->select country and operator->ok to reconfigurate the SIM card service
2) press call key->menu->options->band->select the network connection type and GSM/UTMS mode according to the network provider's settings
If still no avail, we are quite sorry that you will have to backup all the personal data you have on your device though synchronisation or backup tool and perform a hard reset to re-install the whole system for your phone.
After a hard reset, the device is restored to its default settings-the way it was when you first purchased it and turned it on. Any programs you installed, data you entered, and settings you customized on your device will be lost. Only Windows Mobile software and other pre-installed programs will remain
To perform hard reset,
setttings->menu->(all)settings->system tab->clear storage
Thank you for your continuous support of our products and services. Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
We look forward to be of service to you again.
Best regards.
HTC
Hotline: 1800 238 7788
Service Hours : 8 am - 8 pm, Monday - Saturday (except Public Holidays)

i tested.. it not working

i give up.. i decide to disable htc messages

im also on Rogers with the HD2 but i found a fix for this.
I was having my SMS come in with -5 hours on them as well, but after applying this registry change everything is working out (You also need to Soft Reset before the changes kick in)
Just edit the registry and set the value to 0
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\TrustTimeZoneField = 0x00000000(0)
Sorry i cant find the original thread where I got this fix, so dont account me for the credit!
Hope this helps!
**EDIT
i found the thread, it was in the Kaiser forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374956&page=15
Thanks/Credits to Dangerously.

Talking to HTC support by e-mail is like talking to babies or monkeys. I recently tried to report 3 bugs, the answer I got back was ridiculous, the support person obviously was not able to read, only giving one-line answers, that were totally beside the point. Replying did not make it better. Maybe they are using children in the countryside in China posting random standardized answers.
I have since sold my HD2 because without reliable SMS I cannot conduct business, and a company that are so incompentent that you cannot even file bug reports is not worth any of your money.
Also, the description to the SMS "fix" that has been published on their website, completely ignoring to tell what problems it fixes, makes me think they have employed some pretty incompetent people. Any company with the slightest bit of self respect knows that when they issue a patch of fix, they must tell what was wrong and what it fixes.

i dont have -5hr but the timestamp which send by friend is not match with me.. it seen like all reply sms from frienz are using their mobile timestamp rather than my...
Bakedbread said:
im also on Rogers with the HD2 but i found a fix for this.
I was having my SMS come in with -5 hours on them as well, but after applying this registry change everything is working out (You also need to Soft Reset before the changes kick in)
Just edit the registry and set the value to 0
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\TrustTimeZoneField = 0x00000000(0)
Sorry i cant find the original thread where I got this fix, so dont account me for the credit!
Hope this helps!
**EDIT
i found the thread, it was in the Kaiser forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=374956&page=15
Thanks/Credits to Dangerously.
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Blank SMS from "Δ@" ?!?

I've recently received two blank texts, the author of which is simply "Δ@", following which I promptly restarted my blackstone.
this isnt the first time i've received such a text. A little concerned, since I
read that receiving a blank text from dodgy places means someone might be
trying to hack into your phone.
Has anyone ever received similar texts before? Any advice / help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Maaz

Yeah, I got it a while back, but if I'm not mistaken, it was the iPhone which was vulnerable to this SMS attack.

maaz_talha said:
I've recently received two blank texts, the author of which is simply "Δ@", following which I promptly restarted my blackstone.
this isnt the first time i've received such a text. A little concerned, since I
read that receiving a blank text from dodgy places means someone might be
trying to hack into your phone.
Has anyone ever received similar texts before? Any advice / help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Maaz
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Have you checked your Voicemail, if I remember correctly, I had this and it is your Voicemail. I think the way the voicemail icon is activated on phones is via the SMS protocol, and your phone should not show you an SMS message like that, but intercept it and show you your voicemail icon.
If you have a voicemail, read and delete it and you will probably get another text message, which is similar, to instruct the phone to delete the voicemail icon, again you shouldn't see this normally.
I am sure there is a patch to sort this out, but I haven't had any problems like this for ages, so maybe update to a newer ROM and see if it goes away.
Jason

Thanks Jason
I'll look out for voicemail in the future i think i did have some at the time.
However, I keep getting told I have voicemail waiting to be read when I don't actually have any, so its a little difficult (and annoying) determining whether I actually have voicemail or not.
As for my ROM, im using NRGZ28's latest ROM released in late December :s
Maybe its an Orange thing?

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Maybe its an Orange thing?
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If I recall I was on Orange in the UK at the time, so I am not sure if different networks use different ways of forcing the icon to appear, and your phone does not support it. I would of thought it was something to do with the software, so the ROM is likely to be the problem, but I dont know for sure...
As I moved network, I cannot give any definites on whether my ROM would work for you either... You have not indicated your country, maybe if you advise, another person may be able to give you some assistance against that particular ROM.
Jason

I am on orange UK
I have a HTC Tytn with 6.5 (23060)
The Tytn gets the SMS strange symbols when I get Voice message
My HTC HD phone on Orange has Miri 6.5 (21876) V13
Voice messge icon works OK on this
so I would think it maybe win 6.5.3 / Orange problem

You should try calling your phone and leaving a voice message. Orange have a strange issue that I've helped people on xda with before in that if you hang up to soon after deleting voicemail the voicemail icon doesn't disappear. It could be that your phone isn't translating the sms that's sent to display the voicemail icon properly and the sms keeps being sent to you cos Orange thinks you've still got one.
1. Call yourself and leave a voicemail
2. Call you voicemail from your phone and listen to the message
3. Delete the message (option 3 I think) but wait about 5 seconds before hanging up
If you then stop recieving the sms and you're no longer told you got voicemail then great.
4. Leave yourself another message and see if you get the proper icon or a strange text
If you get the strange text then you'll need to do some research into it. I used to get it when I had a Prophet on Orange so take a look in that forum as there was a fix for it.

[Q] SMS recieved days afer sending

My wife and I have both having this problem with our HD2. I searched both the US and EU forums for a solution, maybe I searched the wrong terms. I posted in the Energy thread as well as I am running an Energy ROM. No solution yet. Posting here for better visibility.
With my phone only certain contacts take days to get messages. Some contacts get them right away as they should. My wife's phone takes days for any and all SMS to reach any and all contacts. Needless to say I need to fix this ASAP.
I am running the 9/4 Energy GTX and my wife is one the 8/28 Energy GTX, both 23xxx. I have the NRGZ28 HTC messaging cab installed via XDA_UC on both phones.
UPDATE:
So I was trying a few things I had found with my phone to get things working again. My wife finally brings me her phone and I send my phone a test message from her phone. I get it immediately then immediately get messages on her phone from several people saying that they just received all the messages she had tried to send them for the last couple days. One person said they just received over 15 messages at one time. Her phone seems to be working fine now as far as we can tell. She is still not getting my text messages. I also noticed that If I select a contact and try to view the conversation in that manner there are no messages.

Go to the messages tab, then click on all messages, then click touch menu then settings then options, then scroll down till you see delivery change that to immediate. That should fix your problem

Koolkidz said:
Go to the messages tab, then click on all messages, then click touch menu then settings then options, then scroll down till you see delivery change that to immediate. That should fix your problem
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I will try that on my wife's phone when I get home. I do think I am just going to re-flash her phone just in case. I am somewhat confident that it was an issue with installing HTC messaging onto the Energy ROM. Uninstalling it via application management (I did this on my phone) completely hoses messaging in general.
I have flashed my phone to Energy's September 8th GTX ROM (no HTC messaging?) and did not install the HTC messaging cab. All seems well now. The thing I did not like about the messaging client that Energy uses (Standared WM? messaging) is the stupid comic bubble display for messages. I found where to turn that off though so I don't feel the need to have HTC messaging installed/enabled.

Help! My HD2 doesn't "read" my text messages anymore!

I like having my text messages read to me. I went to Start/Settings/Personal/VoiceCommand...made sure "enabled" is checked, same with all the boxes. Under "notifications" I have the "Announce notifications using Bluetooth handsfree if available. Under "Messages" I checked the "Announce new messages". I've done this with my Wing and Touch Pro 2 before. Are you guys having the same issues? I flashed mine ROM last night to the stock 3.14. Thank you for your help.

So I just called T-Mobile tech support, unfortunately it doesn't seem like they know anything about Windows Mobile having that feature. Ugh.

i had to do a hard reset...it's still not working, can someone out there pls help me

3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.

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3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.
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thank you for your help, i will try that. i disabled HTC sense on my today screen, i will keep trying to research on disabling the htc messaging application. Do you know off hand if it involves downloading a cab or messing with the registry settings (i'm afraid i'll mess up my phone using the latter).

It involves both to completely disable it and regain the ability to have your messages read to you.