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Ok everyone, I have never posted before but I have been around for a little while (still consider myself noobish though)
I have been doing tons of research since the official rom upgrade has come out. I have to admit though I am more confused then ever.
Here is my problem, my wife and I both have the titan. About a mouth ago I upgraded both of ours to the dcd 2.1.0 (12/05/07) to unlock the gps and get rid of the sprint crap. I have to admit I fell in love with this version. Last night I installed the official htc 3.35.651.2 rom on my phone...I am NOT in love with it. Last night and all day today I have been searching for a replacement. Here is the source of my problem. There is so much development and creativity that people put into these phones (and the titan in particular) but is there no central place to compare and rate different roms? I was hoping to find a page that listed the top roms and the differences between them (and the official ones) but that does not seem to exist. There are several roms out there that look promising but sort of spending the rest of the day loading and testing them all I am at a loss.
If anyone knows of a great site or page that does what I have been looking for please let me know. If anyone has a suggestion to which rom I should go with I welcome your input. To that end, below are a few of the things I loved about the dcd version.
1) no extra sprint crap programs
2) working task manager (I just dont like the one on the official rom)
3) text messaging in a chat window set up. Unlike the email like set up in the official versions (I dont know if that makes sense)
4)Full Comm Manager (included more options)
Last item I would like to bring up, much has been made of EV-DO Rev.A. Do any of the custom roms incorporate this? It in its self is not a deal breaker for me, after testing load times on my phone vs my wife’s...Im not impressed but I would like it if possible.
Thanks everyone in advance. I have never posed before because I could always just find the answer if I looked long enough but in this case there is just way to much stuff out there...the curse and blessing of owning a titan
Thanks again
Mofo58
So far the only rom's for the Titan I know of is DCDs, Keys and NexsHybrid. Rev.A is not incorporated into the roms itself, but the radio. as long as you have the radio 3.35 you are fine. since you are a fan of dcd, i would suggest you try his new 3.0.1 rom. since you already upgraded with the official sprint rom, you have the new 3.35 radio (assuming) and all you need to do is flash a new rom on top of that.
Total_Lag said:
So far the only rom's for the Titan I know of is DCDs, Keys and NexsHybrid. Rev.A is not incorporated into the roms itself, but the radio. as long as you have the radio 3.35 you are fine. since you are a fan of dcd, i would suggest you try his new 3.0.1 rom. since you already upgraded with the official sprint rom, you have the new 3.35 radio (assuming) and all you need to do is flash a new rom on top of that.
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Great, I didnt know I could do that...I did say I was a noob right Thanks for your help Ill give that a try today.
Mofo58
Hi, i am a person who is not looking for many functions in a ROM, i am wondering if someone could make a ROM which only includes the basic apps such as Contacts, phone, message, calendar, default Launcher,Mail, Gallery, android Music player ,Market,Youtube,Browser,clock, calculator, camera ,HTC lockscreen and this ROM is based on the hero base.
May i know if this is possible? This will run hero as smoothly as possible. Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479
go to this thread
navigate to the bottom of the 1st post
click link under all other builds can be found here......
download JACHero 2.7.3 SuperLite.zip
remove anything you do not want from the build from the .zip file
(if there is anything you would like to add now is the time to add it to the .zip file)
resign it (if you do not know how to sign it search or pm me)
then put it on your sdcard and flash
this is the easiest way to get a bare-bones version of hero that is fast,simple, and imo one of the main reasons for a hero build, flash 9.
you.... must be kidding... right? JacHero?.... you might as well fill up a rom with fart apps and install it on your g1. He's looking for a basic rom, and, us being sans JF, the best other thing we have is;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this rom has choices, and choices are always good. You can either download the basic rom (either ADP based or T-Mobile based (go with T-mo's, more space left in data)), or download the full one which has several of the modifications that have been developed in this forum. if you don't wish to have all that enabled by default, you can just download the basic one and use an expansion pack later on if you decide you want a little more.
Seriously, for your sanity, steer clear of any hero roms (unless you're ok with rebooting your phone every 3 hours to get usability back)
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edit, because i just re-read and noticed you do want to run hero.... search the threads and look for haykuro's hero beta 4. It's, by far, the best basic hero rom out there. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, compares (hero-wise) to how good, fast, and well put-together it is.
Seriously, steer clear of hero roms...
jubeh said:
you.... must be kidding... right? JacHero?.... you might as well fill up a rom with fart apps and install it on your g1. He's looking for a basic rom, and, us being sans JF, the best other thing we have is;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
this rom has choices, and choices are always good. You can either download the basic rom (either ADP based or T-Mobile based (go with T-mo's, more space left in data)), or download the full one which has several of the modifications that have been developed in this forum. if you don't wish to have all that enabled by default, you can just download the basic one and use an expansion pack later on if you decide you want a little more.
Seriously, for your sanity, steer clear of any hero roms (unless you're ok with rebooting your phone every 3 hours to get usability back)
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edit, because i just re-read and noticed you do want to run hero.... search the threads and look for haykuro's hero beta 4. It's, by far, the best basic hero rom out there. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, compares (hero-wise) to how good, fast, and well put-together it is.
Seriously, steer clear of hero roms...
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actually jachero superlite is very fast..its just like running a stock cupcake. or just a watered down hero
hazeline said:
Hi, i am a person who is not looking for many functions in a ROM, i am wondering if someone could make a ROM which only includes the basic apps such as Contacts, phone, message, calendar, default Launcher,Mail, Gallery, android Music player ,Market,Youtube,Browser,clock, calculator, camera ,HTC lockscreen and this ROM is based on the hero base.
May i know if this is possible? This will run hero as smoothly as possible. Thanks!
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and jacxhero 1.1 in my opinion is the best hero rom so far. its a collab wit with drizzy (known for making the speediest hero roms) jacxhero 1.2 is a bit slower.
just download overclock from the market. and then underclock settins should me max: 385 and min:380
hero roms seems to run better when underclocked to 383mhz
but bluetooth and leds dont work still
brian_v3ntura said:
actually jachero superlite is very fast..its just like running a stock cupcake. or just a watered down hero
and jacxhero 1.1 in my opinion is the best hero rom so far. its a collab wit with drizzy (known for making the speediest hero roms) jacxhero 1.2 is a bit slower.
just download overclock from the market. and then underclock settins should me max: 385 and min:380
hero roms seems to run better when underclocked to 383mhz
but bluetooth and leds dont work still
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my issue with jachero lite is that it's removing everything from hero that makes it hero... you might as well use a smaller rom (80 mb v 40) and download twitter and facebook apps. I've never understood why you'd want to use a hero rom and remove all that makes it hero and then leave behind all the garbage of framework that HTC put there for nothing but two apps. Also, it's beyond me why roms are being made from the second and third releases of hero. They come odexed, which means that the code has been optimized FOR THE HERO. The dream device, though it shares some of the same equipment, is not the same. People should be working off of full jars and apks (haykuro's original hero releases) so that the dalvik vm can create optimized code for the dream, not the hero.
It's not that Jac's rom is fast. Hero is inherently fast. Any and all hero roms you install will originally be that fast. The lag comes from the bad memory leaks of HTC's framework, and there's hardly anything JAC or anybody else can do about it. Its' tolerable in the Hero device because of the higher memory available, and the workaround in the dream is the lousily executed idea of a sawp file. Install haykuro's original release, and you'll see that it's every bit as fast, if not faster, than Jac's releases, that's because the code is optimized for the dream.
I like JACxROM since it is pretty fast and has all your basics
This might be a stupid question, and I've already searched everywhere, but are the Fender/Mytouch 1.2 ROMS the same as the 32A roms??
No.. fender is a 32a/32b hybrid... look for roms that thread title say support mt3g 1.2/fender... and btw cm 5.0.x build supports it.. and is the best 2.1 build... look for it in the g1/dream section.
ive tried it, but im looking for a really good rom with Sense, but the best one I've found was from the Droid Eris, so MMS wouldn't work(VZW settings were locked in).
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th1rt3en said:
ive tried it, but im looking for a really good rom with Sense, but the best one I've found was from the Droid Eris, so MMS wouldn't work(VZW settings were locked in).
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I was able to port a Sense UI rom to the Fender device a few months ago. I haven't actually given it any recent attempts though.
The Fender device hasn't really caught on as expected. Especially with the new MyTouch Slide, Nexus and other devices with much faster specifications.
Any kernel developed by Cyanogen (I believe 2.6.33 and later) should support the device. However the fact that it would be based off a Cyanogen rom would suggest that it was ported over since Cyanogen has already stated on several occasions that he would not produce a rom with HTC Sense (otherwise known as Rosie formerly known on Hero devices) and not to ask him about it.
Here is the rom that I ported: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669942
It is pretty stable but doesn't not have a netfilter (thus no tethering... look into Barnacle for that) or bluetooth.
But seriously... if you want something to use on a daily basis then try Cyanogen's 5.0.7 rom or wait for the 5.0.8 which is supposed to be released soon (we are currently on the last test build... hopefully).
Good luck.
Ok so here goes i'm thinking of working on a NAND ROM based on 2.3.1 (Gingerbread) Build: GRH78 FOR THE HTC HD2...but guess what...... i'm gonna try and throw HTC SENSE into the mix and see if i can get them to play nicely together....since this could take some time i just wanted to know if anyone is interested at all???? Just Post and ask if your interested......this ROM is going to based off ofMDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.3 with MDJ's Kernel: MDJ S10.3 OC (or whatever new Kernal MDJ releases between now and when i get this rom complete) and the Desire HD Sense including the Sense Camera...(THESE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS ROM)I Will Be Posting Frequently Since I Will Need Testers to find all the little bugs that i miss....
( I WILL ONLY POST ROMS THAT I THINK ARE SAFE...BUT THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT IT STILL CAN BE BRICKED SO BY FLASHING MY ROM YOU KNOW THAT YOUR VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE )
EDIT: Im Gonna Try My Hardest to have a Version posted so everyone can play with it by 01/15/2011 - 01/16/2011....
EDIT: I just sent a message to cortulla....mainly if he has any tips or tricks that might help out with this build....01/14/2011
EDIT: Ok I'm sorry for not posting for so long i haven't forgot about you guys...i'm still working on this rom..its harder than anticipated...plus having the free time to do it gets tricky...work is having mandatory overtime since the iphone is being released on verizon...(SCARED MUCH AT&T????)..SO JUST WANTED TO UPDATE AND SAY I DIDN'T DITCH THIS PROJECT.......02/03/2011
Thanks Everyone and remember we couldn't do any of this if it wasn't for Google, Cyanogen, Cotulla & (DFT), MDJ, Markinus, gauner1986, danij3l, gpc, LeTama, Rajko and others...and if i forgot to mention you im sorry just yell at me and i'll be sure to add you to the list =-)....
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i am interested..
that would be great if gingerbread will have sense
ive loved to run it on my hd2
Count me in as beta tester...
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That is so funny, I have been searching yesterday for something like this .
Count me in.
WTH, why not
We are always looking for something new to put in our phones
Good luck and count me in...
Santroph
Also very interested...
And I'd like to be a beta tester.
Totally interested in this. Gingerbread has come along a great length in the last copuple of days. Latest stock release dated the 14th shows working lights and usb! Would be awsome to have sense built on top!
Please work on it man
Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
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+1.
It's hardly possible to get sense rosie.apk (the launcher) working on stock android... (afaik nobody has done it to date)
plus I bet its impossible to do it on a different android version.
Yet I would be interested.
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fruchtfliege said:
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Why?
Use Camera 360 or a similar app. They do the same (may look worse but who cares?)
(maybe no facial recognition - yet do you really need that?)
it seems to me that Gingerbread mostly enhanced aosp anyways, it tweaked the UI and didn't really have that many enhancements.
If you could just port the Gingerbread keyboard, icon set, Nexus S LWPs, and the screen-off animation to a Sense build then you basically have it.
(may look worse but who cares?)
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yep, and that's exactly what i want: a good looking camera app. technically i'm satisfied with the gingerbread cam, but it looks awful in compare to hd cam app...
I'm dreaming of it !!!
Bring it on!
I'd love to give sense a try on Gingerbread!
2.2 Sense ?
Sense HD would be cool but I imagine more work
I'll look forward to it !
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sure man it will be revolutionary start .... good luck ...
Absolutely impossible. You need a HTC leaked ruu I tell you that. Unless you are a fremework wiz. If you are, 10-90 chance. Good luck. You may make history with it.
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"if" you're able to pull it off, I sure will try it out
I really like CM7, but I would like a good Rom that has SenseUI. anyone know of one? i'd like it to be stable and most stuff working.
Orange Sense. HTC Sense, very fast and stable. Available in the development forum.
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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they are two different rom types, the sense framework takes up more space, but it is really fancy with the clock that's the only reason i want it.
You want the old fashioned 1980s flip clock that you see in most of the Mytouch 4G print ads? I didn't even realize that was now not an option...
I cannot imagine you can't use it though. Just review all the different home launchers... There had got to be one that will let you use this clock.
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syntropic said:
I have a question...pardon my ignorance on the matter...
What exactly are "earmarks" of a senseUI? I used my stock glacier rom until only last week, and now am using CM7/RC4, and I fail to see the UI differences. This surprised me because I see people have some pretty strong feelings for or against senseUI compared to Android stock UI.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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You don't see the difference between Sense and the standard Android UI?
Also, the stock MT4G ROM is not real Sense. It's a T-Mobile customized version that isn't near as attractive. "Real" Sense is much more attractive.
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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the modded 2.3 ones aren't stable i don't think, that's why im asking is there one lol. most have issues running somethings like bluetooth or camera.
Evil's 4G-HD Desire HD rom. Pair it with the latest Faux Sense kernel and it will fly! Everything works!
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Not really, and I am usually big on bells and whistles too. I think I may go back to sense (a modded 2.3 rom). Are there any you (or anyone with an opinion) suggest I try out first?
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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The two posts above this one pretty much sums it up.
Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 ROMs aren't fully functional or stable yet.
If you want Sense, try eViL's Desire HD port. Link is in my sig.
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Great.. will try it out. The only things I have noticed that are different are small niceties, which may have nothing to do with sense and cm7. For example, in the glacier's stock rom, I loved that you could be on the phone and simply set it on a table rear side up, and haptics would turn on the speakerphone. It doesn't sound like much but small things like this add up and overall gave me a better experience.
Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Can I ask why faux and others at cyanogen are able to create 4 release candidates for their 2.3 rom, yet a stable 2.3 sense rom is still weeks away? Is this because of the morons over at HTC, who don't understand what open source means and won't release their code?
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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Pretty much. We'll of course never have the source code to Sense, but a good dump from a similar phone can be ported. The problem is, the only Gingerbread/Sense 2.1 dump we have is from the Incredible S, and despite the similarities in hardware, the kernel isn't directly compatible. It sounds like until we get a better starting point, those ROMs will be buggy and missing features.
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By dump do you mean the actual code? And so is motorola (or whoever is behind the incredible...cannot recall at the moment) releasing their code? Because if you are just doing a memory dump and doing some RE to get the actual code, I would ask why that can't be done with the glacier.
And as long you have something a little better than binary, I would think you could get some reasonable starting point from the glacier stock. I am not really skilled in the art as of yet so consider me mostly speaking out of my ass. But I am quite interested. Maybe I will try to get the sense code for you . I mean there has to be a few draft versions in some server not locked up tight.
Oh..and lastly, so evil's rom is a quasi 2.3 (not in substance) with the kernel being 2.2 just tricked out?
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At this point, I don't think I know much more about this than you. I know a dump is much like the ROMs that we flash to our phones...it's the phones entire OS and software package which can then be ported to other phones (assume their of the same manufacturer and are somewhat similar). As you know, the Desire HD is nearly identical to the Glacier (minus the screen) so a dump from it can be easily ported to our phones, and after some "devving", will run perfectly on the MT4G. As far as binaries and code, that's all way beyond me. An actual dev could give you a lot more detailed info.
I asked this earlier and I think it just got lost... but in regard to a sense rom, is evil's rom like a "quasi" 2.3 (has the look but not the substance of gingerbread) with a 2.2.1 kernel that's just tricked out, updated, etc.?
I am not familiar with kernels being separate from the rom. Why is this done? I am sure the install is not too difficult (considering what I have been through with CM7), but is there a guide here,our should I just comb the threads for an installation overview for the sense roms/kernels?
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Edit: I started reading the thread for evil's rom.. and for now, I think I might go back to stock, and upgrade the kernel. (unless there are really no problems worth the Z port, like ffc or wifi issues). So with that said, which kernel is best for the HD sense stock rom (or which stock rom out there has been enhanced the best with everything still functional)? I know there aren't that many different upgraded stock roms/kernels, but of the ones I found, they seem the same.
Sorry to makes this long but I ask this because I see people with just the stock plus an upgraded kernel, but then also, there is the Orange Glacier which is an enhanced stock rom.... Wouldn't those two packages be virtually identical?
Or am I just letting this kernel factor confuse me?
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Forget it.... I just spent 3 hours in the dev threads.... The nomenclature mess was making my eyes bleed... Orange Glacier, Iced Glacier, Royal Ginger, Royal Mint, Royal Jelly, KY Jelly... %^$#^
So... I retract my earlier decision and I am going to stay on the bleeding edge with CM7... F*ck it if I can't do progressive scan video or get reply notifications to MMS messages sent to CDMA networks!!*
*I just made those two things up... It means to say that the bugs that do exist in CM7 are very arcane and minor... But I am an easy sell so tomorrow I will probably want to go back to sense.
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