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First Cooked ROM from Midget_1990 on Saturday!!

OK friends, before you start asking about exact times, I don't know and neither does Midget.
ltxda and myself have been in touch with the rest of the team and our ROM developer Midget.
We could have had a 90% complete ROM uploaded sometime tonight, just to see the extent of the ROM under development, but we advised against this as after all the wait we believe our donators in particular and the rest of the Athena community would rather have a 100% complete ROM worth flashing over our existing ones.
So there it is people. Saturday some time unspecified, we get our first completed cooked ROM form Midget. Don't expect it to be the final ROM though, as some will undoubtedly find something that needs tweaking or added to the base ROM, but given the time Midget has spent on it thus far, we can hope for a pretty stable and fast ROM as I know he spent a lot of time twaeking it.
Happy flashing this weekend.

Any chance of a manifest?

copperwave said:
Any chance of a manifest?
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Probably not, as it's so close to release, but no doubt one will be put together after the initial ROM reaches Final ROM status.

anxiously waiting
I cant wait anxiously waiting

Call it the "Disadvantaged" Rom !!!!!!!
Then we know it is for us peeps who didnt get the official update
Irrespective of the name I cant wait though, better start charging the batteries and take out the memory card so long ....
This actually give us enough time to do backups as well !
Thanks Cant wait

what about the ext-rom? is the problem fixed? is it unhide & unlock? is ther a way to be?
Special tnx Midget! Can't w8 longer.
Cheers, Hirad

today is saturday and still no rom!

yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!

rhedgehog said:
yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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C'mon, tiger! Get your claws back in!

My Bad...Sorry next Saturday 1st September.
Sorry friends I made a mistake. I got in touch with Midget today to check on the progress, to find he's still away from a PC until early next week when he could upload the 90% ROM we told him to hold off from as Saturday would be the day for the Complete 100% ROM.
Stupid me assumed it was this Saturday. I re-checked my txt messages from Midget and indeed he did say 'back early next week and can upload 90% ROM then and complete ROM by Saturday'.
Sorry all, my excitement must have got the better of me.

cool man it's ok we can wait!
Anyway currently for the cooked ROM what's the advantages/disavantages or any items included/excluded? New to this kinda stuff just hope my questions do not seem dumb.

hey guys! cool down! i'm really sorry for that kinda posting! 2 proud of myself... u know? sorry now i really apreciate this situation and this hard working from both of our heroes(Oli & Midget)! and mackaby007 it's not your fault we are all excited to see the first cooked rom for our devices! have nothing to add on this! 2 sorry man.
Cheers, Hirad

what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?

spacecat said:
what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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More like bricks & toast, if you don't know what you're doing!

I think we all just need to calm down and wait patiently for the ROM. Midget did wonders on the Universal, and now we will get the same great ROM style on the Athena - so we wait....
It's not as if we dont have an interim WM6 we cant use? If you're really desperate then bung on the one that's been available for a few months and then do it again when Midget's is ready - otherwise just stop bugging the poor guy!!

Let's prepare for the forthcoming ROMs.
Hi all. I don't know all the details, but I know this much;
Midget has been working on the Dopod u1000 version ROM, but has changed to be a default European ROM (last I spoke to him) and has made optimized it for speed and reliability, getting rid of unnecessary ****e etc.
He was already very close to completion a few weeks back before his PC died on him. So he had to put most of the ROM back together from memory alone, plus the usual setbacks of life.
Expect a new thread for the new 'Cooked ROM' when it arrives. It will be tweaked with some apps included that should be standard in all ROMs.
For those who are new to ROMs and cooked ROMs, look at it like a software container for the Operating system and specially chosen 3rd party apps etc. Once you flash any ROM with a different one, you completely loose all your previous data, except what you have on the MicroDrive (MD).
Now is a good time to get all your favourite .cab files and exe's (for which you need to use Active sync to install them) ready, as you can't use back-ups from apps like Spb Backup or sprite, to restore your old backups onto a new ROM. Well you can, but you'll have lots of corrupted software and may be putting back what was thoughtfully removed from the cooked ROM.
So a cooked ROM is something made up by an individual to replace the default ROM you get from the seller/manufacturer of the device (all THEIR customized crap).
A base ROM is like the absolute essential parts only, i.e. the WM6 ROM and those apps needed to retain the original functionality of the device as when you bought it....like a stripped down version. Then the developer adds what he thinks will make a fast and stable ROM. In this instance the developer Midget_1990 is doing this for the Athena Project, which was formed and funded by many members of Xda developers and some others from other forums and parts of the world, as this is not the common device for most PPC owners to have and we needed help in getting it unlocked (SIM free and capable of having any HTC Athena ROM being flashed to it, without bricking it).
Olipro (Developer 1 and top notch low-level programmer) has already fulfilled his obligation to the project, by developing and releasing the unlocking tools for the Athena and also made our devices virtually unbrickable due to his clever method of Hard SPL patching the Athena. Thanks Olipro.
Midget_1990 (Dev 2, VGA ROM Cooker) is to use his specialist knowledge of the VGA Universal (he's made some great ROMs!) to make an VGA WM6 based cooked ROM which will enhance and improve the basic functionality of the box-standard WM5 Athenas we originally bought. This is somewhat more time consuming, especially as 'WE' the project contributors and community here, have rather varied requests in what we would like to have in this first ROM. So finding the balance of what works best and doing the actual work and in some cases conversions (i.e. TrueVGA compatibility) is what Midget is up against.
As an incentive both developers were given an Athena each for themselves with an understanding between them and the contributors, that this 2 fold objective could be realized.
We're more than half way there with Olipro's Athena Unlocker and we'll soon have completed our objectives once Midget has released the first Cooked ROM...soon amigos.
So....let's be patient just a little longer and continue to play nice, after all, we will still need Midget to support this or future ROMs for the Athena if it still needs tweaking or amending e.g. Athena Project ROM v0.1 or 1.0, if you follow my drift.
Also it was clearly stated that the devs not be hassled or pressured by anyone, but that has already happened...let's hope no more.
Don't get me wrong friends, if any one is unduly rude or derogative towards you, you have every right to retaliate...only it's not in any ones best interest to argue on these types of forums.
Word to the wise; when this or any other developer releases a ROM in the future, we'd do well to read up well, before asking questions that may have been asked dozens of times before and try to point out what does not work with the ROM and why, if you know, or positive suggestions and feedback.
This is my last long post regarding this project. LoL yeah, thank God!! everyone cheers. ROFL. Seriously though, it's been a bit of a struggle but mostly rewarding and made some really cool new buddies on this forum.
Thanks to all of you in the Athena community and beyond, but most of all a big thanks should go to the financial contributors, without whom this project may never have taken off as soon as it did or even at all.
No more to say.
See you around in the forums.
P.S. If you have something negative to say, please PM who you are not happy with and let's keep this forum as a civilized developers forum for all interested parties.
And one more thing, if I may humbly ask all non-new members or visitors to NOT abuse newbies as they are by no means fools just because they are new to this and deserve our respect.
As others have mentioned before, if someone posts a stupid question or something that has been asked a thousand times, simply point them to the wiki or give them the right keywords to put in the search engine as the wiki is still under development.
Peace & Unity

well said. you should be a moderator mate.

duttythroy said:
well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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agreed.

wOw mackaby007! TrueVGA compatibility??? is it possible? i can't w8 for! i really suggest high rank admins to make u and some others the admins of athena! hope to see u soon! (not u mackaby007! i'm with our little nutty,sweet, cooked ROM!!!)

Mackaby007 -> Very well said. Thank you.

Lots of good ROMS: how to choose?

Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye

HELLO i agree with you..

It's a good idea, but I'm not sure you'll find a quick reply.
The main trouble with the Touch Cruise is it's limited implementation globally. With the only US supporters having to import it, and the high price pretty much everywhere, I've noticed the general Polaris "community" isn't nearly as positive or helpful as the Kaiser thread community is. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is a jerk, but it's frustrating to have come from a device and forum where there were tons of people with a positive attitude, all sharing ideas. Here, it seems like most people just ***** about the device they bought, with only a few people (most in the upgrading forum) looking to make the most of it and improve it.
I've been waiting for someone to release a Diamond rom that would work on the Touch Cruise, simply because I like the analog clock look. But I don't have any real interest to force Office 2007 on myself, as I've used the app and don't see any real improvements over Office 2003. But this post isn't about which version of MS software is best.
Anyway... here's hoping the gurus of this forum stay upbeat, keep up the good work, and someone can "port" the Diamond VGA driver to the qVGA device. On the surface, it seems like a simple idea. But you have to wonder if the video chipset in the Polaris just isn't all that without more horsepower behind it, and maybe a better screen. Maybe that's why the Diamond is the new king of the pile. I'd love to upgrade to it, but just having bought my Polaris in Feb. or so, it will be a LONG time before I can justify ANOTHER new device.
Anyway, my compliments to the masters for all they do, and best wishes to those with a pretty cool phone!

My request is only trying to make an unique post in which all the coders can list their ROMS with the list of apps inlcuded and positive and negavite facts.
So when a new owner of the device came here can choose without loosing his mind in looking for informations in thousands of post.
That's all here....
Bye

gerazzo said:
Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye
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its a good idea. but comparing various roms is a full time job and i'm afraid not many people have that kind of time.

This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373233 has been around for a while with a list of Roms, I think thats the best you are going to get, it's just updated when it can be as far as I can tell but its came in usefull for me. Not sure if you missed it but it's been on the first page for a while. Unless I've missed the point and it's something else you are after?
The polaris is a good device and I've found help and support on these forums but its still quite new. I upgraded from the XDA Orbit and thats only been out just over a year I think, a lot of people bought in to 18 month contracts and so wont be upgrading for a while. I'd just bare with it and if you are unsure of anything, just ask.
My favourite ROM at the moment is Bepe's just because it's win 6.1, fast an clean then I've modified it to the standard I want by adding apps and tweaks. I've tried other roms but they are all at such early stages of development that a lot of them aren't really practical for day to day use as they can be very flakey. This won't last forever though.

HTC HD2 Rom Reccomendations please

Hi all,
I am new to this forum and I am looking to upgrade my ROM, but what to?
Can anyone provide any recommendations and reasons as to why that ROM?
Thanks in advance.
Gregs79

Oh no...again..

Dear Gregs79
as i see you only joined this forum 2 days ago.
the easy way of flasing of the HD2 is possible since HSPL is released on 4 jan.
as it has just started the roms are still furter developed.
i'm not going to give you an advice on rom flashing, roms are a personal thing. layout, speed, light or full to name a few.
but i wil give you as a newbie the advice to read this forum, questions as this one you ask only irritate as you can see with the reply from eddieul

Indeed, there are just too much criteria to take into account; speed, usability, free space, removed/added apps or drivers, os version, et cetera; roms are a personal choice.
I do think it would be nice to have a rollup thread with all available roms and their particularities, but it's not like ckecking each thread bothers me anyway.

If unsure, better stick with official. Currently it's best choice for all.

Yunabeco said:
Indeed, there are just too much criteria to take into account; speed, usability, free space, removed/added apps or drivers, os version, et cetera; roms are a personal choice.
I do think it would be nice to have a rollup thread with all available roms and their particularities, but it's not like ckecking each thread bothers me anyway.
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First of all, apologies for the post, I was not intending to wind anyone up! I have spent the last couple of days looking at the forum, but not being familiar with the Windows Mobile interface and never having had a windows mobile phone before, I have absolutely no knowledge of what things are!
I appreciate and have seen that there are variations on ROMs, but as Yunabeco above states, it would be nice to have a thread containing all available ROMs with release dates and not just the official ones.
Apologies once again.
Gregs

Gregs79 said:
First of all, apologies for the post, I was not intending to wind anyone up! I have spent the last couple of days looking at the forum, but not being familiar with the Windows Mobile interface and never having had a windows mobile phone before, I have absolutely no knowledge of what things are!
I appreciate and have seen that there are variations on ROMs, but as Yunabeco above states, it would be nice to have a thread containing all available ROMs with release dates and not just the official ones.
Apologies once again.
Gregs
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Did you even read the stickies???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610548

StefChri said:
Did you even read the stickies???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=610548
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Alright mate, cut the man some slack, he's already apologised for the question no need to bite his head off. We're not all born with the knowledge when first coming here and basic questions will get asked time and time again, nothing wrong with a little patience, we all started from scratch at one time or another.
I think the best place to start is if you have stock rom 1.43, flash the official 1.61 and then move onto varients of the stock builds like l3v5y's or Dutty's.
Once you've become comfortable with those you can look at the other 6.5.3 builds if you're brave but sticking to stock builds is no bad thing as the HD2 is a pretty awesome bit of kit out the box.

Hello guys, it's been a while.

Hello all!! I've been gone for a while, I've been busy being sucked into the iphone trend, and this phone is about to bring me back to my senses. Before I left the community I was heavily into herald(wing) modding and tomorrow I expect to be running with the htc hd2 from now on.
I'm basically starting this thread in the hopes that one of you pro's can point me in the right direction. What do I do first? I'm well aware that stock software on any phone is crap, battery life stealing slow garbage, so I'm obviously going to need help with which Roms are recommended for newbs like myself. I remember before I turned on my wing for the last time, in order to install a cooked rom I needed it to be hardspl'd. Is there something similar to that with this phone?
I can't wait to see what WinMo software has to offer after my 2 year absence. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks for the help!!!

torremitsu said:
Hello all!! I've been gone for a while, I've been busy being sucked into the iphone trend, and this phone is about to bring me back to my senses. Before I left the community I was heavily into herald(wing) modding and tomorrow I expect to be running with the htc hd2 from now on.
I'm basically starting this thread in the hopes that one of you pro's can point me in the right direction. What do I do first? I'm well aware that stock software on any phone is crap, battery life stealing slow garbage, so I'm obviously going to need help with which Roms are recommended for newbs like myself. I remember before I turned on my wing for the last time, in order to install a cooked rom I needed it to be hardspl'd. Is there something similar to that with this phone?
I can't wait to see what WinMo software has to offer after my 2 year absence. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks for the help!!!
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Welcome back, you certainly picked the right phone to enter the fold again!
THIS thread (a sticky in this forum) has some great reference links to the kinds of stuff you'll need when starting out, incluing instructions on HardSPL and flashing for this device. One that's particularly useful is THIS link to a list of stuff that was extracted from the euro version of the phone, so you can add any of them that you want, that didn't get included in the T-mobile US version

sirphunkee said:
Welcome back, you certainly picked the right phone to enter the fold again!
THIS thread (a sticky in this forum) has some great reference links to the kinds of stuff you'll need when starting out, incluing instructions on HardSPL and flashing for this device. One that's particularly useful is THIS link to a list of stuff that was extracted from the euro version of the phone, so you can add any of them that you want, that didn't get included in the T-mobile US version
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Whoa thanks for the Quick reply. I'm starting the long night of research now. Thanks for the help mate

[Q] Find me to get a custom Rom that is alike to the Stock ROM

hello guys.... i need some help i hope someone could help me...
im looking for a Custom ROM or any ROM that is compatible with ANDROID ROMS
what i want to me... I like the STock ROM 3.14 of HTC HD2...( the only thing i would change is the size of the Quick Links) i would put 4 Quick Links instead of 3)
I like the Desire Custom ROM but i tried to download it and the download link doesnt WOrk
i would like to get a custom ROM or any ROM that i can use my Mdeejay Evo matted on it without problems....
any HELP PLease Thanks!!

If there's one thing I've learned is that stuff is rarely handed to you around here. The rest of us have worked to get what we want; meaning read and figure it out on your own. The first few posts of each ROM thread will inform you of what the cook has done and you can figure out from there if it fits your needs.

...Wow. You do realize that the stock 3.14 ROM does work with the majority of Android distros, and that by installing CoOkies Home Tab you can increase the number of links to however many you want....right?

So i can use the stock ROM 3.14 with my Mdeejay Evo Matted Android?
if So, How can i Increase the number of quick links in my Stock ROM?
sorry if i am very noob but i just get my htc hd2 2 days ago xD

Rom 3.14 works like a charm with matc 1.8..... People who ask about the best rom for s\andriod, i''ll suggest them rom 3.14 with mattc1.8 android best combination

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If there's one thing I've learned is that stuff is rarely handed to you around here. The rest of us have worked to get what we want; meaning read and figure it out on your own. The first few posts of each ROM thread will inform you of what the cook has done and you can figure out from there if it fits your needs.
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Wow...you were once a noob as well seeking help and every now and then it would be nice to get a helping hand on here. Sometimes it would be great to just meet someone to take them under their wing and help them...dont really feel as if that would be to much to ask.

See the thing is though, most of the time people troll the forums as un-registered people, find something they like/want, try to download and find that they have to be registered to do so, join...download what they wanted without reading instructions and whatnot, then come and complain or ask for a handout without so much as looking at the stickies. It's not that we don't like n00bs at XDA, quite the contrary, without new blood XDA would die off, it's that people that come and expect to be spoon fed information is something that I for one cannot stand. There is a wealth of information if you just look for it.