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HTC directly host and manage updates for Vodafone !!

This is interesting! You must be knowing by now that Vodafone moved ahead with the Legend froyo update when htc promised last week that they will be releasing the update for unbranded legends first and then the carriers would go ahead with it.
Well, guess what ? htc directly manages and hosts update for Vodafone !
now what does that make of us unbranded people ?
My Question: " Vodafone legend froyo update is hosted on htc's own servers !
what does that mean htc ? when you say they were just quick on releasing it when its on your servers the update files are stored ? ... "
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HTC: "It's true, we directly host and manage updates for some carriers. Vodafone was able to move the quickest ... "
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(He believes the most number of Legend sales globally are through Vodafone)
That doesnt make any sense! how can vodafone be responsible for moving quick when htc themselves manage and host updates for them ???
I've been very patient all through in waiting for the update while many people been going really mad..
BUT THISS REALLLY PISSSED ME OFFFFF !!!!!
proof (from htc facebook):
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PS: I noticed the irony only after posting a response to their comment.
Whole stuff in short : HTC makes their ROM -> Vodafone asks HTC to customize the ROM for them -> HTC does all the work for Vodafone -> and they host the ROM on HTC's own server -> The update is released by HTC for vodafone (not BY vodafone)
There is no sending to vodafone for customization in the process

Look at the date within the ROM, HTC Delivered the rom to Vodafone for customisation a whole month ago.
All the while they have been sat on the finished ROM scratching their asses.

Offcourse they had finished rom months ago. They released a device identical to Legend (not sure which model is it) but plastic casing few weeks ago with Froyo. That means Froyo for Legend's architecture was ready weeks before release date (they had tu manufacture the cellphones and distribute it).

CrazyPeter said:
Look at the date within the ROM, HTC Delivered the rom to Vodafone for customisation a whole month ago.
All the while they have been sat on the finished ROM scratching their asses.
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I think you have to read between the lines - "believes the most number of legend sales are through Vodaphone".
There has to be a reason why vodaphone put the updates on hold for one month.
The only thing that came to mind is - HTC Desire HD and Z.
Think about it - if consumers had in their hands a Froyo 2.2 device in the market that's made of unibody aluminum, what is the impetus for them to pick up a desire?
Close to zero. 5MP camera, can friendstream, can do internet. What else can a desire HD or Z offer the typical consumer that the legend cannot?
Most consumers (and i'm not talking fanboys or android lovers or developers here) have little reason to pick the desire - unless if it has an impact on their image.
So the key? offer ordinary consumers the desire HD and Z - push this to the market, and silently update the legend after sales of the new desires have been done.
Mind you - the original desire wasn't a metal phone.
It's just marketing and effort to make the most money out of consumers.
Does HTC care enough to create a good user experience outside of the htc sense interface? That is the question.

I totally agree with the last two opinions! Nothing can excuse HTC for releasing Froyo for Legend 3-4 months after Desire was updated to 2.2. I could understand such a delay if they have implemented the new Sense UI and the HTCSense.com functionalities, but... they released just Froyo with a bit polished Sense. I also think that they could release Froyo 1-2 months ago... It's all about the sales of the new models. It's really a shame.

CrazyPeter said:
Look at the date within the ROM, HTC Delivered the rom to Vodafone for customisation a whole month ago.
All the while they have been sat on the finished ROM scratching their asses.
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I there is a misunderstanding ! from what i understand.. there is no 'sending of ROM to vodafone FOR customization' involved in this !
HTC makes the rom, vodafone tells HTC to customize their ROM, and HTC does the job and host the ROM for vodafone on HTC's own servers !
Now what does that make ? htc made the ROM for vodafone and released it themselves before they released their unbranded ROM against their promise ! thats the whole point.
So htc claiming vodafone just released it too quick is a total lie or intentionally misleading, coz its htc who released it for them, not vodafone themselves.

Yes, but they have to have a schedule for it.
Vodaphone got it first because (it could be a written agreement not shown to you)
they have the biggest distribution globally.
This means they have more legends than all the unbranded legends combined.
So they get it first.
Yes, HTC 'promised' - but they couldn't deliver.
It's usually the money that does the talking.

I agree with randy_khoo, but still as long HTC release official froyo updates (no matter asia/europe/us, branded/unbranded), we can always customize and re-cook the rom out of it
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Official --- No Froyo for X10

Today Xperia blog posted that SE UK officially announced that there will be no froyo or gingerbread released for X10 family
Source
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06...-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/

sharathx10 said:
Today Xperia blog posted that SE UK officially announced that there will be no froyo or gingerbread released for X10 family
Source
http://www.xperiax10.net/2011/01/06...-will-not-receive-upgrade-to-froyo-or-beyond/
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TADA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902414

It is so obvious
Android 2.2 and above has the option of installing apps on SD card, phone with 2.2 dosent require 1GB of internal memory. SE designed this so as to support till 2.1

This is awesome!!!!!!!!!
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If you remember the phone came out before froyo was announced. You can't accuse them of not designing the phone for something that didn't exist at the time.
Having said that, it isn't an excuse for not supporting froyo. Everyone knows it can handle it. Heck, there are custom Roms lol
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pngface said:
If you remember the phone came out before froyo was announced. You can't accuse them of not designing the phone for something that didn't exist at the time.
Having said that, it isn't an excuse for not supporting froyo. Everyone knows it can handle it. Heck, there are custom Roms lol
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
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HTC Magic wasn't designed for 1.6...nor 2.1...and it got officially updated to froyo:
http://engmobdev.weblogsinc.com/2010/12/14/htc-magic-gets-froyo-on-vodafone-uk/
That ins't an excuse in my opinion, the new xperia mini is almost like our x10 and it will have froyo.
As i said in another thread, i'm wondering now what are those "great news" unknown13x was talking about...because i can't seem to find anything great apart from froyo or gingerbread... (knowing we will got MT and DLNA in the next update)

LOL i was right all along
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Hey any of you remember this? This guy got flamed hardcore by SE believers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772523
Not starting a flame war again, but SE has been known to do this as I said in one of my posts in this thread. No surprise here.

sopdogg said:
Hey any of you remember this? This guy got flamed hardcore by SE believers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772523
Not starting a flame war again, but SE has been known to do this as I said in one of my posts in this thread. No surprise here.
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it would seems like that guy is rite. perhaps he's from SE company. i wonder...

That's what he stated, he was a part of the DEV team. Other than spelling Xperia "experia", it seemed to me that he knew what he was talking about.

For those who haven't seen, SE UK posted this to their Twitter feed earlier:
http://twitter.com/#!/SonyEricssonUK/status/23028920475455488 said:
We believe the features included in the Android 2.1 phone are on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of 2.2 #X10
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Idiots! They're getting flamed (rightly so) for it too.

Read through the SELeak thread again and laughed at all the smart folks here.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but nowhere have I seen SE state that the X10 series will get no more updates. Maybe they're skipping 2.2 in favor of 2.4?

nekkidtruth said:
Just playing devil's advocate here, but nowhere have I seen SE state that the X10 series will get no more updates. Maybe they're skipping 2.2 in favor of 2.4?
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i think they said no froyo and onwards.

Hmm... I wonder where unknown13 is?

Lol maybe he didn't know about this either...
Or if he did, maybe he heard that there wasn't going to be a Froyo update and hence assumed that X10 will get gingerbread

my X10 is heavily used for exchange, gmail syncs and gaming. so i need to keep the os updated. well i guess i'll be selling my X10 very soon. unless we can get the hardware working off the AOSP mods and the darn bootloader
i've always liked SE phones but i think that's the last of it... HTC FTW

In Product blog
Rikard Skogberg says: January 6, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Hi all First – As a clarification regarding the current Xperia products –
We are planning another upgrade to bring new features (such as for example multi-touch for Xperia X10) to the current family of Xperia™ smartphones in Q1 2011.
However, at this stage those plans do not include updating the underlying Android version
This decision is based on that we believe that with the current hardware platform an overhaul of the underlying core OS wouldn’t drastically improve the user experience
We believe that the current Xperia range on Android 2.1 coupled with our proprietary upgrades and unique hardware delivers a user experience that is on par with, and in many cases better than, a vanilla installation of Android 2.2
Our priority right now is to keep enhancing the user experience of the existing products through coming updates and to deliver a fantastic range of smartphones in 2011 that are all on the latest possible version of Android – that is a target we are determined to hit! version of Android – that is a target we are determined to hit
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sopdogg said:
That's what he stated, he was a part of the DEV team. Other than spelling Xperia "experia", it seemed to me that he knew what he was talking about.
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For one, I know that while toying with the brand SE did use "Experia" at one point or another.
Some of those guys that gave him all that rot, should very seriously apologize in that thread.

Oh it is disappointing My eyes on Xperia Arc now

European availability

I asked my local Samsung distributor on Facebook about availability and got a strange answer yesterday. They said it has been delayed because of Android software problems and should be here by end of July.
This sounds just like the rumour that i read about a week ago. I don't know what to think now. Does anyone have any information about this?

Only what you know - I have heard August as they ready 3.1 to ship with the device.
I picked up up a limited edition 10.1 on ebay for a reasonable price, and just got the upgrade to 3.1 so all's well on them here in the UK.
Perhaps see if you can get one from there if you can't wait...

I want a 3G tablet, so the LE is not a option, i already have a WIFI only Xoom for home use. Only thing that's holding me back from buying a Xoom 3G is the fact that the European Xoom's are not Google experience devices and don't get updates from Google.
So my only option for now is 10.1V, but I wonder if the 10.1V will get updates at all?
I don't understand how there can be a software problem. My Xoom runs on 3.1 for over a month now, also the GT10.1LE got the update and the GT10.1 was already released with 3.1 in US. And if i remember correctly then this rumor about software problems with Android 3.1 got already a response from Google and they said there is no such problems. So i just don't get it, how can Samsung make so much confusion...

Ruddy hell, more waiting.
Sent from my HTC Desire

UKseagull said:
Ruddy hell, more waiting.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I still hope that this information is inaccurate or that it's only delayed for Estonia (for what ever reason, i don't believe that software excuse).

FreshFreddie53 said:
Only what you know - I have heard August as they ready 3.1 to ship with the device.
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Where did you hear that, it's not from that rumour that was floating around a week ago is it?

Found this link on Samsung Poland Facebook page Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in Poland at the end of June (Google translate)

In Poland there is now Samsung Mobile L!VE (http://www.samsungmobilelive.pl/o-sml.html).
I have already visited one stand and today I plan to see one more.
1. I have been told to expect it in the shops by the end of current month.
2. All specs on the stands list GT 10.1 with dual core 1,2 Ghz CPU (will try to take some photos 2day).
With recent pull back from 1,2 Ghz by Vodafone to 1,0 Ghz I really do not know what to think... especially that these stands are made by Samsung not some 3rd party company like Vodafone or independent distributor.

galtom said:
In Poland there is now Samsung Mobile L!VE (http://www.samsungmobilelive.pl/o-sml.html).
I have already visited one stand and today I plan to see one more.
1. I have been told to expect it in the shops by the end of current month.
2. All specs on the stands list GT 10.1 with dual core 1,2 Ghz CPU (will try to take some photos 2day).
With recent pull back from 1,2 Ghz by Vodafone to 1,0 Ghz I really do not know what to think... especially that these stands are made by Samsung not some 3rd party company like Vodafone or independent distributor.
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If you can, please ask if they have heard about the delay's because of Android software problems.
Vodafone changing the specs doesn't mean anything, it can be that they just released the information too early. This happened with Android 3.1 also, Adobe wrote in Android Market Flash update description that Android 3.1 is needed and this information was removed very fast and everything was denied until Google officially announced 3.1.

I found now one dealer in Germany that lists a release date. It is Conrad and they say on their webpage 4th of July 2011 for the 3G model. Let's see if that's true.
H.

I forgot the link: http://www.conrad.de/ce/ProductDeta...productcode=877127&zanpid=1514577257979813888

And the white 10.1 - june 30
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/...hite-mit-Multi-Touch-Display/0403040&ref=list
And the black and white 8.9 - Juli 15
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/...lack-mit-Multi-Touch-Display/0403040&ref=list
I don't have experience with Conrad. Are their expected delivery dates usually correct?

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im not too sure how good my polish is but does that say that it has a 3.2mp camera and supports full hd? im quiet sure the 10.1 only supports 720p. so may be those specs are not 100%. thats to galtom for the pics thou. ne more info?

So, first release for Europe will be the 3G model?
Any news when the wifi only will be available?

That is exactly what it says.
Guys at the stand do not know anything about it as they do not really work for Samsung.
Basically there is a GREAT, BIG MESS around and with this tablet crated by Samsung . It is so big that now looks like even Samsung itself is not 100% sure what is coming out of his production lines.
If you ask Samsung through facebook or its websites in different countries you will get a lot of different answers but what seems to certain is:
all GT10.1 will run 1ghz tegra 2 soc
wifi will not have microsd
3g will have it
it should reach shops with android 3.1
touchwiz ux looks very good and works very good - for me it is actually more convinient and user friendly that google UI.

gogol said:
So, first release for Europe will be the 3G model?
Any news when the wifi only will be available?
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To be completly honest I have not asked as it is not the one I would buy :-(.
I shuold be later on 2day at another stand to compare unit model but do not know how reliable are infos given there.
As you see CPU shows 1,2 Ghz.... so I'd rather wait for something more official.
I just can not believe Samsung goes on (sill) making more mess, creating confusion and disinformation in regard of its tablet.

This is the first time I have seen official Samsung marketing showing 1.2Ghz... interesting

Have missed other stand 2day - sorry. And since it is a big holiday 2morrow in PL (not usual Sunday) I will not be able to get there 2morrow (it is not me but everything is essentially closed up) :-(.
Get back to you on this on Monday.

hshah said:
This is the first time I have seen official Samsung marketing showing 1.2Ghz... interesting
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And it contraticts with the specs on their official German website: http://www.samsung.de/de/Privatkund...T-P7500UWDDBT/detail.aspx?atab=specifications "1 GHz Dual Core"
So much for their official marketing
H.

Android 5.0 and L as OS options for G3 on LG SmartWorld: a hint on an early update?

I have posted this in reddit and wanted to share it here too. While I was browsing the LG SmartWorld site, I clicked the phone selection link on the right to choose the G3. After choosing the G3 and hitting OK, a dialog appears asking the operation system of the phone and there are options for Android 5.0 and Android L. I also checked this with other phones and these only appear in G3 models. Maybe a hint towards an early Lollipop update?

Now that's interesting. Hopefully it IS a sign we'll be getting it soon.

Interesting link i found
Came across this in a google search in regards to android l looks like early files for the new OS maybe just for the boot process so far.
h ttps://github.com/Sykopompos/Android-L-LG-D851

Why when i go to smartworld web it says my device not supported?? I have d855 32gb

D855 shows Android 4.4 and ANL, I think that one big update is coming

Android L is already being tested in Korea and Poland.

zbiecik said:
Android L is already being tested in Korea and Poland. Information from mate tester LG Poland
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If You haven't made it up and Your friend seriously work as a tester - delete your post. Sharing anything related on any portal is violation of NDA and it can end very bad

dont think we will see L before 2015 definitely not before december 14

Do not expect many things.we are talking about LG the worst company in the updates. I wish to be wrong but something tell me that we will only see android L with the next release of lg g4. Lg usually brings the updates 3 months after Samsung and htc . Htc which promised fast update to m8 it states a few days ago that it will give the android L 90 days after received the stable version from Google. That means that the fast plan from htc is about 4 months from now. Guess now LG which slowest than a turtle.we are talking about 7 to 8 months. Which will be very near to the release of next g4. So it will wait a few months more to release the new g4 with the new lolipop experience. I wish to be wrong but lg has a very bad history.

LG G4 will be released with 4.4.....LG in a nutshell

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transfo47 said:
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Hope LG surprise us then!

Honestly, I don't believe in LG

transfo47 said:
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Lol that has to be a joke from them. They can't even get the carriers to release anything. So yeah 6 month isn't so unrealistic. Even for canadien android releases
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I have no faith in LG but if they update this phone to 5.0 it will sell more of these for them. So we might get lucky cause they are greedy.

I believe that it will take longer than 6 months to get out to carriers (At&t still is on 10d.) But it could be possible for the international versions.
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I have been saying for months we will all be surprised (not just LG, but all major OEM's) about how quick Android L will roll out to the flagship devices, it will be the fastest roll out so far!

Lennyuk said:
I have been saying for months we will all be surprised (not just LG, but all major OEM's) about how quick Android L will roll out to the flagship devices, it will be the fastest roll out so far!
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If all of these guys have not been working with the preview build code and getting all their ducks in a row, i would be SHOCKED. This is a new way for google to announce the OS and i think they did it to give OEMS time to get stuff ready for fast updates. Once final code drops, i wouldnt be surprised to see OEMS releasing for certifications from carriers within a month. At least HTC and samsung! lol But here is the thing i keep hoping for. Samsung used to be HORRIBLE with updates, then they figured it out and now are one of the fastest (HTC still has the crown). LG Could do the same. Especially with all the time they should have already had with the base code (not any MAJOR changes really even in this latest preview). Fingers crossed. As long as i have this phone long enough to actually see the update. My tmobile jump and a nexus 6 or note 4 are almost tempting me, but i love this phone!

One M9+

Should this of been what HTC launched as the M9?
It would of been more of an incentive to upgrade going by the specs.
What's your views on the recently announced M9+?

Duncan1982 said:
Should this of been what HTC launched as the M9?
It would of been more of an incentive to upgrade going by the specs.
What's your views on the recently announced M9+?
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I decided to skip M9 and get M9+ instead, unless the later M9 Eye is even better...
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It's being released for China only, so i'm not worried at all. The one we got now is quite a beast and can defo stand up to the others.
But yes, it's a strange choice by HTC, but that's nothing new

http://goo.gl/89WEi7
An ugly duckling?

Actually, it will be coming to other countries too, didn't see this part in the post:
The HTC One M9+ is currently available in China only and will be ranged in other markets, to be confirmed locally at a later date. Please follow your local country pages for availability information.
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sausje85 said:
Actually, it will be coming to other countries too, didn't see this part in the post:
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Good to know, but is it worth it coming from M8 to M9? Currently using sense7 also, to me I don't think is worth it because I really want a bigger screen. That's why I will wait for HTC if not iPhone 6S plus.

M9+
Well as an early adopter I took the eBay plunge and bought an M9+ via China. I'm a Canadian on the bell network and moving from a HTC one M7 to the M9+ is definitely an improvement. My wife has the M8 so I think I can speak a little to the pros/cons a little.
First off the M9+ works fine on the Bell network. Since I saw the iPhone come with a fingerprint scanner I've been pretty jealous. Needless to say the M9+ scanner seems quite receptive and haven't had any issues to date. The larger qhd screen is nice and really those two features are really what made me go to the M9+ over the regular m9.
The one scary thing as an early adopter using a chineese phone getting my google apps installed ( gmail , play store, contacts , ) which I've become so reliant on. just having the ability to install any apps known to the north American market. Thanks to the xda community as there is a small writeup ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...perience-regarding-installing-google-t3111090 ) on getting them on the forum as your forced to use the chineese play store and when you can't read or understand any chineese it's a bit of a problem.
Haven't been quite able to figure out how to get rid of ChinaSense 7.0 and just go plain English but some notifications and blinkfeed is limited go chineese news but I find that minor. Hopefully there will be or already is a workaround.
Anyways 2 days in and I'm impressed. Ide reccomend going for the plunge if you're a HTC fan for sure.

grizzah.k said:
Well as an early adopter I took the eBay plunge and bought an M9+ via China. I'm a Canadian on the bell network and moving from a HTC one M7 to the M9+ is definitely an improvement. My wife has the M8 so I think I can speak a little to the pros/cons a little.
First off the M9+ works fine on the Bell network. Since I saw the iPhone come with a fingerprint scanner I've been pretty jealous. Needless to say the M9+ scanner seems quite receptive and haven't had any issues to date. The larger qhd screen is nice and really those two features are really what made me go to the M9+ over the regular m9.
The one scary thing as an early adopter using a chineese phone getting my google apps installed ( gmail , play store, contacts , ) which I've become so reliant on. just having the ability to install any apps known to the north American market. Thanks to the xda community as there is a small writeup ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/one...perience-regarding-installing-google-t3111090 ) on getting them on the forum as your forced to use the chineese play store and when you can't read or understand any chineese it's a bit of a problem.
Haven't been quite able to figure out how to get rid of ChinaSense 7.0 and just go plain English but some notifications and blinkfeed is limited go chineese news but I find that minor. Hopefully there will be or already is a workaround.
Anyways 2 days in and I'm impressed. Ide reccomend going for the plunge if you're a HTC fan for sure.
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hahaaaa.....
You will have Google apps and regular Sense 7.0 out of box if you buy the device,M9+, from India or Taiwan....
But the inconvenience is there is less channel to buy it on these countries then China.
If there were custom ROMs in the future and you would like to flash it,it will be all right.

yvtc75 said:
hahaaaa.....
You will have Google apps and regular Sense 7.0 out of box if you buy the device,M9+, from India or Taiwan....
But the inconvenience is there is less channel to buy it on these countries then China.
If there were custom ROMs in the future and you would like to flash it,it will be all right.
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Yeah I tried looking for a seller from India but to no avail. Not to worry tho it's all fine I hardly use blinkfeed anyway. I'll def re flash it when some roms come out

grizzah.k said:
Yeah I tried looking for a seller from India but to no avail...
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Why are you looking in that mysterious India - when it is already available in civilized Dubai..

jauhien said:
Why are you looking in that mysterious India - when it is already available in civilized Dubai..
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I thought the release in Dubai/UAE was June 1st? Where is it already available in that case?

Available.. (with Comtel warranty - just anticipating your next question.. )

AED 2500 With 2 years Comtel warranty and price might drop down in the next couple of days

great news. I'm crunching on a chinese version, and so far so good... looking at how to create some international recovery and possibly some international rom for owners of the chinese version to switch to... first, i'll need to look at the chinese TWRP recovery if it can be switched to english twrp, but i'm lost yet in the chinese pages linked in some of the threads in this xda section

Is there a place that sells it online so I can have it shipped to KSA? It is still not released here yet

online sales not available but wait for a couple of days

its available now in some stores in Dubai
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Waiting is a virtue I cherish but it would feel even better if I knew what for ?

I noticed incomplete phone number on the screen shot. Can you please share clear address and phone number of the store.

Jomer111 said:
I noticed incomplete phone number on the screen shot. Can you please share clear address and phone number of the store.
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its not my shot , my friend in dubai got that phone