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For starters i love this phones hardware. Almost all of the hardware specs of this phone are excellent. The 1ghz CPU by qualcom is a very good choice, but not quite a bleeding edge chip. Having a dedicated gpu would have been a better choice for the resolution and processing requirements of the other parts of the phone (gpu's can accelerate alot more than games).
512MB ram is a good choice and certainly enough for most needs. However ram is super duper cheap these days and i'd much rather have 1gb of good system ram than 1gb of extra storage space(which is what the evo gives us). the 4.3 inch screen is certainly sufficient, and in this space i dont think there really are much better panels resolution and aperture wise available.
I have certainly enjoyed playing with the 8MP camera in video and snapshot mode, but it also has its flaws. Being very sensitive to light the framerate (in video mode) can go from whats looks like(because i have no way of actually checking) lower 20's to less than 10 frames per second. Also while the 8MP sensor allows for nifty resolution it does not make for the cleanest image(in both video and snapshot mode). Due to lower quality optics being used and very little logic. I've found that flash also seems not to fire in correct sync with the (non mechanical IE FAKE)shutter of the camera sensor. Causing blurred images even with the flash on, I even attempted to circumvent this problem by manually setting the iso mode in the camera options to no avail. Also i really love the back facing camera and i would love it if i could actually use it for something.
I dont like fring its ugly and buggy, i dont like QIK. I dont know what it is, i just know i wont like it(J/K). It honestly never even occured to me that skype was not available for android yet (dont even mention that verizon peice of garbage). And it looks like we get it either until the end of the year. If even then (for video). I have had some opportunity to try out video on evo. And while some videos look good they are often not the right ratio and leave the screen largely empty. Some videos had obvious framerate & sound sync issues. Even on youtube. Let me go ahead and say i have not even played with HDMI, fm radio, or bluetooth. None of these do i really use, However i do like lots of extras and you cant go wrong with any of those. I tried only a few games out primarily raging thunder 2. I was not impressed by this games performance in the slightest. I would expect a 1ghz phone to be able to outperform atleast a Nintendo DS. I believe this part calls for a facepalm. I believe im supposed to thank HTC and their infinite wisdom for the 30FPS cap on the phone.
As for the 4G. I live in north dallas inbetween several major urban area in small residential housing area. Before signing up for my evo one quick trip to the sprint website and a little bit of address information would have me believe that im lit up like a christmas tree for miles all directions with 4G connectivity. Only after purchasing and bringing the phone home to realize i have no 4g connectivity at all do i back to the sprint website and go back to my coverage map. Yup see there i am all green, oh wait what is that? when i zoom in all the sudden the maps starts looking like swiss cheese. As i zoom all the way down my exact house do i see im not covered at all. Upon further testing i found that many areas that say they have 4G do not infact have 4G at all. After finding a 4G tower less than a mile away from my home. I drive to the tower to test my phones capability. Speedtest avarage download being 4300kbps or 430Kilobytes per second or about 4mbps. And upload averaging almost exactly 1000kbps or 100 Kilobytes per second or 1mbps. Well bellow the stated peak limit of 10mbps for downloads, and 1.8mbps peak of uploads. Mind you im sitting right beside this tower. I get much further from my home wifi. As i start driving, toward my house. I lose coverage in less than half a mile. Upon further consideration of this 4G technology i dont think its ever gonna work(right). I cant imagine them putting up enough towers to blanket a city yet alone suburbs or rural. There just is'nt enough real estate. I want to love this device, however this phone needs alot of love, and up against the onslaught on new phones just over the horizon, it needs it quick. Otherwise this could easily end up a dead end long before it ever reachs maturity. I have only owned my phone for 10 days. I will return it(if major upgrades dont happen soon) and go back to a peice of crap metroPCS phone for another six months while i wait for either this phone to get its act together or jump on one of the new LTE phones from the competition. Also i'd like to ask, what would you guys prefer a new single network connection combining all voice and data functions like the new LTE network verizon/metropcs is designing with possibly less bandwidth or a multiple network IE seperate voice and data connections with possibly more bandiwidth. Please consider all the known implications before replying. Lets keep this critiquing unbiased as possible please. If theres anything major please feel free to let me know.
And all i wanted was video conferencing.
Metathias
How did you locate the 4g tower closest to you?
notmike said:
How did you locate the 4g tower closest to you?
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I drove around till i got 4g signal Then meandered my way around following signal strength til i could see it. Never got full bars for 4g until i had line of sight. It was a big tower too. Still only covered about 1/2 to 3/4 of a mile.
4g upload is capped at 1mb
where is the map you can zoom on? can't seem to find it.
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4g upload is capped at 1mb
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Where does it say that? Mine is 1.3-1.6 normally
I can't believe I read...
that entire message. I must be off to wash my eyes!
Don't post stuff like this without an industry source. As far as I know, this is not true. I often get 1.7 in downtown Chicago.
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4g upload is capped at 1mb
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Read it.
GumboChief said:
Don't post stuff like this without an industry source. As far as I know, this is not true. I often get 1.7 in downtown Chicago.
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It's been mentioned by Sprint, Most Blog Sites, and Many other People. It has been shown on upload tests through SpeedTest, DSLReports, etc that its capped at 1MB or very close to it.
Please provide a screen shot of 1.7Mb/s upload as I have not seen that either and I have fast 4G where I live.
Here is from the developers site about cap.
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/home/4g/wimax_experience/wimax_experience.jsp
Next time I am on Michigan & Randolph, I will run a test. I dont have it in my current log as I blanked my phone last week for whitslack rom.
mrmomoman said:
It's been mentioned by Sprint, Most Blog Sites, and Many other People. It has been shown on upload tests through SpeedTest, DSLReports, etc that its capped at 1MB or very close to it.
Please provide a screen shot of 1.7Mb/s upload as I have not seen that either and I have fast 4G where I live.
Here is from the developers site about cap.
http://developer.sprint.com/site/global/home/4g/wimax_experience/wimax_experience.jsp
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For those getting > 1mb, that may change in the future. I know 4G is capped at 1mb here.
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For those getting > 1mb, that may change in the future. I know 4G is capped at 1mb here.
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My speedtest was on June 17th, when going to see my eye doctor. I am really curious to check, now.
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I am looking to get the DHD, but being in the US, I will only get edge speeds. Anyone else in the same boat? Does it ruin all of the new sense features like the phone locator etc.? If it does not affect usability much, then I will get one.
Orlando, Florida
I've been using it for just over two weeks, and I can honestly say, it doesn't bother me one bit. I'm mostly on Wi-Fi, but when I have to use EDGE, I get speeds from 200 to 500 KBPS. The only place I notice it is trying to load HD video from either Youtube, or Flash videos on the browser, BUT it does work well enough for me. As I said I notice it, but it doesn't make it unusable. I can use Opera Mini for any browsing I do if I need to be on EDGE for long as that is very speedy even on EDGE. Overall I'm very happy. I even had an outage at my place last week, and I used the phone as a modem for my laptop, and yes it was slower than my usual high speed internet, but it got the job done. I think what people forget is most general data doesn't need blazing fast speeds. Just a couple of years ago we were on dial up. 56 KBPS. Getting 200 KBPS on this phone is more than 3 times dial up speed. That's plenty fast enough for using all the features on this phone. Get it, and enjoy!
i would imagine if you are just syncing emails as text, and maybe light internet use its probably fine. however where i am i would get 3g on it but my uni is in an area with only Edge data speeds and it was tolerable
however i did find myself really only using wifi even when 3g was available to me when your out and about tho 3g is handy but there are that many open wifi spots these days its not that hard to live without
Good to know, I just ordered
Need your Help, I went into a AT&T store today, and got to play with a Sales Persons Personal Atrix, not a Demo. The Phone is very fast we downloaded Speed Test from Exreme Labs, I kid you not, "Blink" and it was done, I thought initially we had a disconnect, but not so. I have a concern, we ran Speed Test about 8 times and averaged 1.35 mbps Download and 1.38 mbps Upload??
How can that be? is it possible that there is a problem, I have also heard wide spread complaints of similar slow speeds.
I was curious to see, "could it be a set of "Bad Circumstances" One of the Other Sales Reps had a New IPhone4 and was kind enought to download Speed Test- We ran it, and had a Huge Difference- The IPhone was showing very fast speeds Download and so,so upload, via Extreme Labs Speed Test-
As I played with the Atrix, I went to different sites and dowloaded varied items, You Tube, Web Sites in the Middle East that are very labor intensive sites, Atrix FLEW through this stuff- The Atrix Raptor Fighter Jet Type Performance cast a big shadow of "Doubt as to whether the results were accurate", can anyone Help Please!
Thank you
I bet the sales rep had their Atrix on WiFi or they managed to get their phone updated/ provisioned properly to enable HSUPA.
can you explain your comments a little better, yes the phone was on wifi
The speed issues aren't about wifi speeds.
1. Pop that iPhone and the Atrix back on AT&T's network and run those speed tests again.
2. Watch the iPhone 4's upload speeds quadruple the Atrix.
3. Stare at the AT&T salesperson trying to sell you the phone and ask "Where the hell is your 4G now?"
sounds like the Atrix guy was using a relatively slow wifi connection and the iPhone guy might have been using 3G wireless
also, I've found my iphone 4 to be pretty susceptible to interference on the 2.4ghz band with wifi
Just ran a back to back with my atrix and iphone 4 on my home wifi. atrix on 5ghz and the iphone on 2.4ghz
atrix - 18169 Kbp/s down 8838 Kbp/s up
iphone 4 - 9814 Kbp/s down 2816 Kbp/s up
atrix over regular wireless 3232 Kbp/s down 336 Kbp/s up
I assume nobody else is having speed issues because I haven't seen any recent posts about this topic, but I went from 100% stock (including recovery, non-rooted, no extra apps installed) EC05 to EI22.
The first thing I noticed when I started to install applications was the 3G data was tremendously slower than it was before. Yes, I'm on Sprint. It wasn't great before, but it is *really* bad for me now.
I am currently getting:
4 out of 6 bars, -76dBm to -91dBm 0 asu
I do not know what the dBm/asu indicate, if those are "good" values or not. I've received acceptable data speeds at this location before.
I performed three speed tests using the Speed Test app:
ping 790ms, 693ms, and 982ms
download (bits, not bytes): 95kbps/0.09Mbps, 75kbps/0.07Mbps, 35kbps/0.03Mbps
upload (bits, not bytes): 93kbps/0.09Mbps, 127kbps/0.12Mbps, 138kbps/0.14Mbps
I am a bit reluctant to odin the modem back to EC05 with the modem NVRAM flash cleared and re-applying the EI22 patch, since I am not rooted I do not have the necessary numbers it appears I need to re-establish service from reading that forum thread.
Anyone else seeing a similar issue? Any suggestions for resolving it, other than the aforementioned NVRAM flash?
No noticable speed issues here....the towers that were broke before still don't work for data and the ones that do work..work the same.
Go to the data status in the ##DEBUG screen and make sure it says evdo and not 1x.
It's likely the tower. I get the same sort of thing downtown here but if I get out to another tower I pull just over 1 meg down. Hopefully Sprint gets all of their towers sorted out soon.
I compared mine on an Airave and they are comparable in speed.
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Thanks, everyone.
I tried to search the forums for ##DEBUG to see how to do that, but wasn't able to find a post that explained it. One post I did find talked about turning on tethering mode and using a com port, but none of the ports I tried to open worked (I stopped at COM7). I will look into this more later on the great interweb.
I found some co-workers who have Sprint and androids, and when they ran Speed Test all also got abysmal results: one test returned a 2kbps (bits) download result. Yikes.
So, it seems to indeed be tower problem of some sort. After talking more with them, it appears to have really taken a nose dive the past couple weeks. The suspicious is the tower is saturated. Awhile back one of my coworkers called Sprint to complain, after going through several levels the most he got them to do was re-provision his phone which didn't help at all. So there's no acknowledgement of a problem or apparently any intention of fixing the issue. Maybe someday...
Anyhow, I appreciate your help and insights. Thanks again, everyone.
Same Issue Here!!
Insanely slow, all stock, formerly 1.0Mbps DLs before in same spot.
I have to throw my 2 cents in, used to get pretty good speeds and now, not sure if it is EI22 or something else, I get horrible speeds.
I sat in a car, parked in a lot across the street from the sprint tower, full bars, -65dBm, and ran a speed test... 483kbps download, 614kbps upload, 117ms ping.
I'm in a smallish town and can't imagine there is that much traffic on the tower...
Just to update, in another smallish town about 45 minutes away from the other one, sitting 5 bars about 1/4 mile away from tower and my speeds are even worse.
same problem here - speed test results are dismal
5 bars - tower within 1/2 mile away - ping 138 ms - d/l 439 kbps ul 443 kbps
phone samsung epic 4g
ERA Legendary 2.1 ROM
thanks
I've found that if I disable 100 MHz then I get a lot better data speeds. I'm on Legendary RC 2.1 with 2.0.8 of the Samurai kernel.
I also have this problem too, however if 3g is super importante, I would recommend CM7 the problem seems to go away too. Runs smoother too. I have 4g, and love it, so that is what I use when I am connected to a charger. 3g is getting pretty bad that I can't even stream music sometimes, just for the skips.
Saki18 said:
Insanely slow, all stock, formerly 1.0Mbps DLs before in same spot.
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Installed ACS Recovery and Rooted, only thing different, drastic improvement in speed. Dunno why.
Here's what I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307980
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339478
Slow speeds with a strong signal usually means that the tower is having issues. I have that problem on the main road (I live in the sticks) where there is only one tower, and a lot of users. In the middle of the night my speeds skyrocket, indicating network saturation during the day.
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Ok another update. I had a friend with a galaxy tab at work today try a speed test and the same time as I did on my epic. We both got very similar results... which hopefully confirms that my phone is working fine, just sprints network is being saturated in my area. I'm going to go ahead and blame the number of people who probably picked up smart phones in the last few weeks. Seems like every day at work somebody has a new shinny toy to show off... to bad the network isn't able to support it.
I live in San Francisco, and I still get crappy speed. San Francisco's suppose to have the "fastest" 3G. I donno why though.
update from me.
sprint was down much of today
just came back - speed test report 1177 kbps down - 649 kbps up and ping of 163 ms - A dramatic improvement
did the 100 mhz mod also
but this seems to point to towers.
I was wondering if anyone has had experience with this or knows a little about it.
I do not have cable and have been getting buy watching downloaded videos. Last week I saw a streaming media player that runs off of Wi-Fi and thought to myself, perfect I have Wi-Fi. After buying, hooking it up I started my hotspot on my Nexus and tried to watch a Netflix video. The media player said it's connection speed was 0.1 mbps needless to say trying to watch a movie was a painful experience to say the least.
Since then I have adjusted and played with every setting I could think of and have maxed at .09 mbps (which works but can not see what caused it) but generally around .02 mbps.
I am have a Sprint NS4G in a 3g area running AOKP and MATR1X. It doesn't seem to matter if I have full signal bars or not and the CPU seems to be set at 100 MHz (even though I have played with the settings it just doesn't want to use more resources). I have also tried with and without Wi-Fi tether app.
Anyone know how I might be able to improve my speeds or get my phone to focus more on the hotspot (the resources are there just not being used from what I can see). I would be so appreciative. I would like to see how Hot Tub Time Machine ends lol.
Thanks in advance forum.
-Nexism
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