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YouTube video - what's the best solution?

When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?

streaming media
You need a program called HTC streaming media. Just Google it.

Streaming YouTube on WM6 (Touch included I'd assume)
anywhereanytime said:
When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?
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This would help
http://ytpocket.com
It's a 2-steps thing:
- Download the TCPMP
- Play Youtube content.
HTH....my 2 cents

second for VTAp. Has videos from all google videos, youtube, and a few other places. Its like connected so its updated the same rate the sites are updated as well. Its just overall great!
i think it s!

is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...

vTap works great ... thanks for the input !!

vtap is the best that is what im using. works like a charm.

i tried vTap and its okay, but the thing that pisses me off are the load times and the ****ty quality. so i went with typocket.com, they have 2 easy installs that take less than a minute, with GREAT FULL SCREEN quality and super fast load times, almost seems like its streaming
so give ytpocket.com

I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?

ludester said:
I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?
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Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.

spunks3 said:
is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...
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You have to unintstall the macromedia flashplayer 7 in order for you to successfully view the regular youtube site.

cruise350 said:
Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.
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thank you that did the trick

ludester said:
thank you that did the trick
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Which options ?
Thank you

Another good option
I have used vTap and I though it was very good, although I had to put up with a lot of wait icons.
I have been experimenting with this option... http://www.avotmedia.com/ and it has been quite usable so far. Video is very smooth and I have not had one single wait icon while using this program.
Check it out. I originally heard about here or PPCG, one of the two.

I use this
http://wmexperts.com/articles/howto/full_youtube_on_windows_mobile.html
works good
Full Youtube is kinda fun and boredom saving

I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold

I use www.tinytube.net works well also allows you to stream or download if you choose.

arguinto said:
I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold
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What does the cab actually allow you to do? When to the link but really didn't have an explanation of what it does.

does this work with full youtube or just m.youtube.com (mobile youtube)??

Try using ORB

coreplayer1.32 touch pro2

hai- i have installed the coreplayer 1.32. everything is fine ^^
everthing? not even everything.- I tried to play WMV9 and there is no sound and blank screen. movie is playing... ???
whats wrong?
wmp is laggy ****. coreplayer dont lag but no WMV9?

Try this here (esp. posts #2 & 3): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290176
Helped me with TCPMP, runs also with Core Player

I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?

Sketch85 said:
I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?
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select one to the RTSP formats. works for most but still not all videos.

hi. i just try to copy the files in windows directory. no way. no video, no audio.
very curios if i download a wmv9 test file and open it with tcmp or corepl it works correctly. but if i wanna stream from maxdome.com it dont work ???
on windows media player it works. there is video and audio!!!!!!
but windows media plaer is laggy in all video formats ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
lag lag lag wmp
anyone ideas?
thx

anyone knows what format and resolution and everything is best for coreplayer on tp2?

Well I tried to open a dvx movie with tcpmp and I could not get anything but few purple lines.... and the pro2 freezed.
The same movie with the same tcpmp works perfecly on my old htc touch!
Any clue?
FD

im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264

combat goofwing said:
im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264
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Same lag and stutters overhere. Any solutions out there allready?
Default mediaplayer suddenly stopped working on my TP2, though the quality was way better then the core player's. Too bad it doesn't work no more.

can anyone help with this after paying for core player it wont play anything with out stuttering along

everything used to lag for me in coreplayer, including videos but if i switch the audio settings to higher priority for mp3 files they play without a hitch. now if only i can find out how to do the same for videos

Add me to the list of VERY unsatisfied results with Coreplayer on the TP2... it absolutely SUCKS. BIG TIME. Laggy and crappy... how is a man suppose to watch all those great videos stuttering!

I had the same issue (laggy, ...) a couple of months ago. I sent an email to CorePlayer support and got this answer back :
"Hello,
This is a known issue and we are working with several people on trying to track it down and are hopeful to have it included with the next release. I can offer you a full refund if you would like.
Regards,
CoreCodec Support Group"
They expect to release the new version by the end of this month.
Just have to wait...
Hope it helps.

Are you using DirectShow? If not, try it.

Great on TP2
Coreplayer is running great on my TP2. Watched 2 movies today and the video looked great and frames were solid. Honestly its the best thing i did for my TP2 yet. I dont believe it will handle 800x480 but a little bit lower resolution should still be fine and the video scales very well. Check this review on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONMuEeTo7A&feature=related
Watch near the end when he shows how Coreplayer runs.

REFUND!!!
So I just sent my refund request for Coreplayer. It has a bug with Tv-Out causing it to show a blue flicker. Also it has no real hardware support yet. The best thing I found was the Touch HD gui encoder program. It puts your videos into formats the built in players can use and those do have hardware support. So while coreplayer is a great app its not for the TP2.

Disable DirectDraw in TCPMP. Use GDI mode.
I am not sure if the following has any effect when DirectDraw is disabled, but this is the way I have it:
Select Options\Settings, then click on "Select page" and select DirectDraw.
You will see three options. Only select the one that says "use blitting instead of overlay"
This worked for me...

Best video & codec format for HTC HD2 Playback

Hi,
I am quite new to the Windows Mobile scene buying the new HTC HD2 (Leo).
I am looking to convert movie files from .AVI to .MP4 for my HD2 but I was wondering.
1) What is the best converter to use for a Mac.
2)What is the best settings. I.e. Bitrate, Audio, fps, kbps and so on.
I have tried a couple of settings but really have no clue to the best settings.
Any information and help is much appreciated!

I use the files that also work on my iPhone.
So,
.mp4 h.264
1408kbps or 768kbps
audio 160kbps
fps - I leave as the same as source
As for a MAC program - I would use Handrake.
All just my personal settings - others will of course, have other views.

What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.

xaban said:
What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.

xaban said:
What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.

greatcapp said:
File size? h.264 should be smaller for the same quality.
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If your time is cheaper than a big memory card, you can waste it on converting etc.

xaban said:
If your time is cheaper than a big memory card, you can waste it on converting etc.
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wow, who nicked the jam out of your donut?
If you read my original reply, I'm using files that I already have for my iPhone. some of which I've converted, others that I've downloaded.
So I've not really wasted any time. I was simply offering an option to the OP.
The main reason I added that it was my opinion, was so that others didn't need to add how things COULD be done differently, just for the sake of it.
now the OP has at least 2 options - Just use the avi's or re-encode ( or grab h.264 files from other sites).

xaban said:
What's the point of converting AVI? HD2 can play it pretty well without any conversion.
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Can I ask you which player do you use.
I have movies on my sd card and with Coreplayer I get error message "File not found!\Storage (FFFFFFF8)". And with Windows media player I get error "Cannot play the file". Movie plays just fine from internal memory but that one lacks space.
Any advise would be much appreciated.
I forgotten to mention that the codec is Xvid.

I have tried playing some of my .avi formatted movies and I get errors with windows media player and I have tried a movie I d/l in .mp4 and both album and media player will play it but the screen is grey with sound and every now and then the picture will come on.
I'm guessing due to wrong settings.
I am just looking for the best settings to get smooth play and clearest viewing. I'm not too fussed with size as I have a large enough card.

grozni2010 said:
Can I ask you which player do you use.
I have movies on my sd card and with Coreplayer I get error message "File not found!\Storage (FFFFFFF8)". And with Windows media player I get error "Cannot play the file". Movie plays just fine from internal memory but that one lacks space.
Any advise would be much appreciated.
I forgotten to mention that the codec is Xvid.
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what version of coreplayer are you using?
anyway try 1.3.6. it should work

greatcapp said:
wow, who nicked the jam out of your donut?
If you read my original reply, I'm using files that I already have for my iPhone. some of which I've converted, others that I've downloaded.
So I've not really wasted any time. I was simply offering an option to the OP.
The main reason I added that it was my opinion, was so that others didn't need to add how things COULD be done differently, just for the sake of it.
now the OP has at least 2 options - Just use the avi's or re-encode ( or grab h.264 files from other sites).
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I am using the same mate, I had all my AVI files converted to my old iPhone and I have found that they play great on my HTC HD2, infact I think they look even better with bigger screen, But that's just my opion.
The converter I used was download from the Pirate Bay and it's free from their home page VioVideoConverter

I'm not actually using coreplayer.
I did have coreplayer on my HTC Touch HD but i'm seeing about just utilising the album player and windows media player.

Any of the guys using HD2 can test these videos and let me know if they work fine or have problems playing?
http://www.multiupload.com/DYPQ7Q3LDW

I'm using the last Coreplayer.
But I figured if it works for you it should for me to.
So I figured out that if I run movie from Resco explorer or built in explorer the problem is still there but if I run it from Coreplayer via open command the movie works.
So there must be a problem how explorer sends a location path to the coreplayer on HD2.
Is this only me or do you experience the same behavior to?

kenkiller said:
Any of the guys using HD2 can test these videos and let me know if they work fine or have problems playing?
http://www.multiupload.com/DYPQ7Q3LDW
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All three files play, but they seem a bit jerky in places. They're not the best samples to test video with.
They suffer from artifacts in quite a few place using WMP, and in Core Player, they are jerky. Personally, I wouldn't suffer watching them, but they do play.
It looks like you used isom advanced video codec. I find that h.264 gives superb results.

greatcapp said:
All three files play, but they seem a bit jerky in places. They're not the best samples to test video with.
They suffer from artifacts in quite a few place using WMP, and in Core Player, they are jerky. Personally, I wouldn't suffer watching them, but they do play.
It looks like you used isom advanced video codec. I find that h.264 gives superb results.
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Well, they are done using x264, AVC is just a subset of it. Plays fine on the PC, but I have no HD2 to test yet, so need some help.
Hmm...I'm using mencoder/winmenc to encode, so can't just update without the coders of mencoder updating. Mencoder is in turn a derivative of x264 if i read correctly. Meanwhile I will do some research on a GUI for x264.exe. I've used mencoder for most of my encodes so far on other phones, and it's been pretty good to me.
Here's another two encodes, this time with lesser (only 1) ref-frames, and using the latest version of the mencoder.exe....do let me know if it's better/worse. One is with the [email protected] profile (which i guess will have trouble), the other is with the good old [email protected] profile.
High
http://www.multiupload.com/TH2FNWZHO6
Main
http://www.multiupload.com/4JYVROSVSM

I have tested a couple of settings and I have found a format that works so far and is great quality.
I'm using Xilisoft Converter on Mac OS X.
MP4
Bit Rate: 2000-2500(Max)
Frame: 29.97
Audio Codec: mpeg4aac
Bit Rate: 192
Channel: 2
I am using the PS3 pre-settings then changes the video size to 800x480. It's great quality and plays smooth but the file size jumps from 700mb to 1.8g so any idea's on how to bring that down???
I'm still checking out different settings..

Chocco said:
I have tested a couple of settings and I have found a format that works so far and is great quality.
I'm using Xilisoft Converter on Mac OS X.
MP4
Bit Rate: 2000-2500(Max)
Frame: 29.97
Audio Codec: mpeg4aac
Bit Rate: 192
Channel: 2
I am using the PS3 pre-settings then changes the video size to 800x480. It's great quality and plays smooth but the file size jumps from 700mb to 1.8g so any idea's on how to bring that down???
I'm still checking out different settings..
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Your bitrate is too high.
If you're converting standard def media, 1200-1800 should be more than enough.
Also, if the resolution of the source is less than 800x480 in the first place, don't waste space trying to up the resolution. Re-encode at the original resolution.

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Well, they are done using x264, AVC is just a subset of it. Plays fine on the PC, but I have no HD2 to test yet, so need some help.
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They played much smoother for me on my desktop compared to on the phone.

kenkiller said:
High
http://www.multiupload.com/TH2FNWZHO6
Main
http://www.multiupload.com/4JYVROSVSM
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Both seemed to play better than than the preivous encodes in WMP - no artifacts. Looked nice & smooth.
Core Player still struggled - very jerky.
Would be much easier to guage a non-animation/less dark sample.

watch films etc!

hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)

jannen said:
hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)
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If you rip dvds with something like Nero, you can create DivX avi files that will play a treat in core player.
The native Windows WMP format plays perfectly in media player too.
The native HTC player format is mp4, and to be honest, that looks the best to me, but DivX in core player is about 99% as good.
Whenever I have something to watch, it's usually a DivX file, so I just copy it to the phone and watch it as is, without conversion (about 350MB per hour). I have a 16GB card with about 6GB of music, 2GB of installers and installed apps, and therefore 8GB free to put vids on (at the moment).
I should be able to get about 10 films on there, or 20 typical episodes of TV programs, at the above-stated average size.
A few people have had problems with core player, but there's plenty of settings that you can change. I've got it set to play nicely now, and there's very rarely any lag (toggling fullscreen off and then back on gets rid of that for me), and it looks gorgeous on the massive bright screen.

I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.

robje_2004 said:
I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.
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I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.

richardirv said:
I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.
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Yes me too. I converted several TV shows and the audio remained out of sync by about 0.25 seconds for the duration.

If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.

johncmolyneux said:
If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.
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I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.

richardirv said:
I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.
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Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.

johncmolyneux said:
Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.
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Hehe, When I get time I am going to dowload a variety of converters and try to find one I like and one that works well. Ideally the one that was made for the HD would be perfect if the audio sync was fixed. I must admit though I havn't had chance to actively look for any solutions to that problem yet.

One thing I would like from the HTC Player would be a resume option.

Settings in Core Player
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.

raphy82 said:
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.
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In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.

Thank You , I´ll try the new settings when i get home.

Thanks
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...

jannen said:
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...
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What version are you using? That's been in every version of coreplayer I've had.
I've just done a hard reset on my phone, and haven't installed coreplayer yet, so I can't tell you how to do it exactly, but the it's in menu under options and I believe it's orientation. Also, when a movie is playing it, touching it usually makes it landscape and fullscreen too.

johncmolyneux said:
In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.
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Excellent, using GDI seems to have sorted out my frame flicker during fast moving sequences. Thanks!

Movies Lag On HTC Touch HD....

I tried several movies on the htc and they are not smooth.
Some movies were taken from an old phone that was less powerful and was smooth but is jerky on the htc, why is this?
Yesterday a friend sent a simple video that came with his phone and plays flawlessly for him but for myself it was lagging.
Can anyone think why it's doing this and what I can do to solve the problem?
I tried avi'd, divx/xvid and even mp4 files, all lag. Even different resolutions, say 640x480 or 800x480, etc.
Any suggestions?

Try Core Player. Best player for the HD. If still laggy try another rom.

stuntdouble said:
Try Core Player. Best player for the HD. If still laggy try another rom.
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It was coreplayer, I have never had lagging before until now...
You suspect it being the rom? The rom I have is the Vanilla Rhodium by Kwbr...

tiny33333 said:
It was coreplayer, I have never had lagging before until now...
You suspect it being the rom? The rom I have is the Vanilla Rhodium by Kwbr...
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Ask within Kwbr's thread to see if others are experiencing this. May be known issue with known solution

Certain versions of core player may work better so if you can get hold of a newer/older version it may help, or at the very least worth a try. After trying out the other available versions and other software options with no luck, I would look for a new rom (As long as you flashed the vanilla kwbr file properly and followed the instructions in their thread to the letter, but then I assumed you went through all these basic steps first anyways).

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Certain versions of core player may work better so if you can get hold of a newer/older version it may help, or at the very least worth a try. After trying out the other available versions and other software options with no luck, I would look for a new rom (As long as you flashed the vanilla kwbr file properly and followed the instructions in their thread to the letter, but then I assumed you went through all these basic steps first anyways).
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Yes, I did. It's a shame to change the rom because I'm happy with the rom in every other way.
It's fast and responsive, only slows down when playing any video's.
However, as a few of you mentioned, I will try a different, more later version of core player to see if it solves the problem.
If not, I may need a new rom...
If the worst comes to the worst, which rom/s would you suggest that is good for graphical/video performance which is what I'm looking for...

encode your movies in h.264 baseline level 3 with AAC audio, in the mp4 container. HTC Album/Windows Media Player will then use the hardware decoder to play the videos.

Bionic-Blob said:
encode your movies in h.264 baseline level 3 with AAC audio, in the mp4 container. HTC Album/Windows Media Player will then use the hardware decoder to play the videos.
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That's possible, but I really wanted a player that plays divx/xvid which is what I want.
I tried 2 versions of TCMP but both give me an error when trying to open, so their no good.
I guess I will try a different version of coreplayer.

Problem solved, changed my rom...