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I've got myself a new Vario, but I can't seem to get the contacts to sort by first name - is there any way to do this?
Sorry if this is a dumb question! I've been mucking about with it for ages!
Many thanks
Zakkz,
Welcome to the forum :wink:. Please read this introduction.
Here's a couple of links on your question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=contacts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=contacts
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yes it is possible,
even different ways to get this:
you can use a little freeware application 'File As First Last" that will be included in the default contacts applications. It allows you to save the contact by "firstname lastname" 'or even by company etc. The application can be found on pocketpcfreewares.com: http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=828
you could also change the contact settings on your desktop...within the Outlook contact, you can change the setting 'save contact as', there you can chose to use "firstname lastname"
yet another way to solve this problem is to use another application for your contacts. Pocket Informant is really very good! there you can easily chose to sort the contacts by "firstname lastname"...you can also chose to see the contact pictures in the list of contacts, which is really great I think!
and you've got many many other options and settings to change the calendar/contacts/tasks views...also a really great search function within Pocket Informant...try it for yourself...
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Hello,
There is a way to add more than 15 favorite contacts ?
It is a great feature but is limited to 15 contacts.
Many Thanks
This would be great if it's possible.
I have another question. How can i change the order of the favorite contacts?
Yeah, would also like to have more than 15 favorites. But maybe they made the limit because it would be too laggy otherwise ? Don't know really
Order of the contacts on people tab
I am also interested in changing the order of the contacts on my people tab. I have searched the site and this is the only reference found. Any update to this out there?
Thanks.
xponline said:
I am also interested in changing the order of the contacts on my people tab. I have searched the site and this is the only reference found. Any update to this out there?
Thanks.
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As far as I'm aware your favourite contacts appear alphabetically and this order cannot be changed.
If I am wrong, I apologize. But to be honest I don't see a need for this anyway as the time taken to scroll to any of your favourite is Minuscule anyway
thanks for reply. Just wanted to have the wife at the top of the pile - keeps her happy
AAAJessica Alba
I have numbered the beginning of the name of my favorite contacts from 01 to 15. This way you can reorder them in the TouchFlo 3D tab.
This trick works for the all programs tab, but not sure for the people tab
Since--if--the order is alphabetical, try putting a space before the name, e.g. " Jessica Alba" instead of "Jessica Alba."
Any news or updates on this one?
Hi guys, anyone out there had any luck with adding more favourite contacts? Any knowledge to share about the people tab that might help us out?
I'm running Sense 2.5 from Leo 2.02, seems pretty quick on my own WM 6.5 28014 build, but would absolutely LOVE to have more than the standard allowance for favourite contacts
P.S In all the Sense 2.5 versions i've used I've been able to manually rearrange my favourite contacts - guess it's a 2.5 thing, but it is doable.
UP!
Any news for add more then 15 favorite contacts on HD2 ?
Thanks!
I'm also looking for that, not easy to decide which friends should be the unlucky 16th, 17th contacts
thanks
perchera said:
I'm also looking for that, not easy to decide which friends should be the unlucky 16th, 17th contacts
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Fallen Spartan said:
As far as I'm aware your favourite contacts appear alphabetically
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Absolutely not.
They simply appear in the order they were created, and when you restore them after a ROM flash (what I do often these days ), they obviously appear in the order they were historically created in the main contacts list (still not using alphabetical order).
This is ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY, is reproduced after each flash, and bears no discussion whatosever.
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and this order cannot be changed.
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If I could find where they are stored (I think I'll ask people who wrote favorite contacts backup programs - though I'm a bit worried, as Zenyee's Back FavPeople Up seems to save and restore actually NOTHING ! ), then maybe I should be able to write some utility to do that...
I don't even know if they are stored in a database, an xml file... The only thing I'm sure of is they are not stored in the registry !
The only way now is to delete them then restart from scratch !
Fallen Spartan said:
But to be honest I don't see a need for this anyway as the time taken to scroll to any of your favourite is Minuscule anyway
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It does't take any time actually if you use the 4x4 mod, as you even don't have to scroll.
But they're still messy anyway, making them not straightforward to click on.
I initially created them sorting professional and personal favorites... But, well, this nice order doesn't survive a ROM flash !
You must just be aware of the fact people just like their contacts to be sorted the way they want. In other words, they think THEY are the boss, not their phone ! LOL
Anyway, it's not forbidden to search for a way to change that, ask for help, and hopefully, find a solution.
I actually found this thread because I was precisely looking for that.
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I have numbered the beginning of the name of my favorite contacts from 01 to 15. This way you can reorder them in the TouchFlo 3D tab.
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But it has no effect at all for the reason I explained before.
g2tl said:
This trick works for the all programs tab, but not sure for the people tab
Since--if--the order is alphabetical, try putting a space before the name, e.g. " Jessica Alba" instead of "Jessica Alba."
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Same punishment !
OK, now I've managed to have Zenyee Back FavPeople Up actually saving something...
There is a very easy and simple way to sort the favorites using this tool.
Just edit the produced HTCcontact-backup.xml file, change the positions between the <FavoriteOrder> and </FavoriteOrder> tags, then restore it, and you're done !
Position numbers begin at 0, so the last one should numbered 14.
I'll now try to restore a modified xml file with a contact position modified to 15...
I'm also searching the registry for the key values enclosed between the tags <FavoriteContext> and </FavoriteContext> : will I be lucky ?
Edit : I'm not !
And trying to renumber a contact beyons the limit doesn't work either.
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OK, now I've managed to have Zenyee Back FavPeople Up actually saving something...
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how did you manage to do that? i have an htc diamond2/topaz with the energy rom and back favpeople up! doesn't find any favourite contacts from my people tab :-(... i don't know why. it just says: backup completed; 0 contacts saved. it's really annoying having to add favourite contacts manually after each rom update.
Thanks for any suggestions!
OK, I looked further in the registry and in the contacts themselves (using Outlook on your PC can help, too).
The "Favorite" contacts are actually tagged as belonging to a group ! That's how Back FavPeople Up! works. The group is labelled "1", where not classified contacts are tagged "0".
I managed to have Back FavPeople Up! working by checking the "Sense 2.5" box (I tried previously without success, but now it works. It may actually depend on the ROM build, even if all of them use Sense 2.5).
On restoration, it sometimes doesn't restore them all, though.
Then I analysed the resulting file named HTCcontact-backup.xml.
It's actually a bit messy, because Zenyee din't add a carriage return between each section, but it still works if you add yours to improve readability... It's just XML, after all.
Here is its structure :
Code:
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!--Backup of HTC Favorite Contacts by dzenkinz ([email protected])-->
<ContactList>
<Contact>
<FileAs>Usual Name</FileAs>
<FirstName>First Name</FirstName>
<LastName>Last Name</LastName>
<RingTonePath>RingTone Path</RingTonePath>
<FavoriteContext>Index Number</FavoriteContext>
<FavoriteOrder>Order Number</FavoriteOrder>
</Contact>
<Contact>
...
<Contact>
...
</ContactList>
The contents between the tags should be self-explanatory for most of them ; some of them need some more explanation, however.
- If a tag is empty, then the syntax is simplified. If for example you don't have a specific ringtone linked to the contact, then it will just be noted :
Code:
<RingTonePath />
The same applies to any other empty tag.
- The "Index Number" tag contains some index relating to the contact's position in the list. It's a 7 digits (decimal) number. I'll go back on it later.
- The "Order number" tag is the most interesting, as it represents the position in the favorite list ! It's a decimal number between 0 and 14.
- The "Usual Name" is the one showing in the "Favorite Contacts" tab. The other ones are just a copy of their real content in the "All People" full list.
Now with these informations, I just did what I always do... Search the registry with the "Contact Number", hoping I could find them... And... Bingo !
You can find a section named "FavoriteOrder" in the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\People\] key...
And this is what's in it :
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\People\FavoriteOrder]
"0"=dword:Index Number 1
"1"=dword:index number 2
...
So this is a list of each contact index number, stored in a DWORD variable representing its rank on the "Favorite Contacts" tab.
It actually works, as if you juste restore these registry keys then soft reset, you'll see your contacts displayed in the require order.
If you want to leave some empty buttons in order to sort them, then you'll just put the value 0 into the variable wearing the position number (remember they begin at 0, so "0" is the first, "1" is the second, etc.)
You should actually fill in the whole 15 variables (using the 0 value for empty ones), or you'll end up with buttons wearing an old contact on it.
Warning : For the index number, be careful on the base you will use : the numbers found in the XML file are written in decimal, while the registry numbers are naturally written in hexadecimal, so if you must manually copy a value, be sure you first check the "decimal" button.
Technically, you'll just export the [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\People\FavoriteOrder] key from the registry, edit it with the notepad, sort the contacts to your taste, the import it back to the registry (you can make a CAB to ease the process).
The method still have some drawbacks and difficulties, howether, so please read carefully the following :
1) The [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\People\FavoriteOrder] will be created only by Zenyee Back FavPeople Up! upon restoring previously saved contacts.
Though it's actually used by the HTC Favorite Contacts tab, it doesn't exist "naturally" !
So you'll have to restore a saved list first, or create the registry keys from scratch. Then you'll be able to export them, sort them to your taste and import them back.
2) There is an another limitation I found this morning. As you might expect, this tool is most useful after flashing a new ROM, when you want to get your favorite contacts back.
The problem is on the method you'll use to get back the full contacts list. maybe it won't be a problem for most people... But I had one.
Yesterday, when I flashed the last Energy ROM, something went wrong with my ActiveSync on my hom PC, and as I was downloading a Dinik version (it takes about 2h1/2 to get one ROM from Hotfile ! ), I couldn't reboot, so I synchronized my contacts this morning from my office PC...
And then the favortie contacts list I restored from the registry keys was all messed up.
The reason is simple : the index numbers were different from the ones that were saved.
I think the reason is my office Outlook file is actually a bit different from my home Outlook file. They are actually syncrhonized separately (of course ! ), so their databases grewn separately.
The other time I flashed, I resynced the contacts from home, so the list was saved according to the home contacts index list.
Then last flash, I resynced from the office, and tried to restore a list that was built from the home contacts list...
I actually don't know if the same could also happen if you still resync from the same PC... You'll have to try out.
But as long as you keep your contacts in your HD, you can freely export and import back the favorite list from and to the registry, and it will be fine.
Now I think that if you use antother method to save your contacts and restore them after a flash, for example if you use PIM backup or any other tool instead of synchronizing with Outlook, then maybe you won't have this problem at all, I don't know.
What i do to have my Fav contacts in tact after flash....
Before flash
Backup my contacts with pim backup
Backup fav contacts with Zenyee Back FavPeople (sense 2.5 checked)
Then after flash
Restore from pimbackup
Restore from Zenyee Back FavPeople and Reset when it will ask you (Importand).
This method is allways working for me in NRG roms
Yes, it works great, but there are some limits to what it can do :
1) If you already imported your saved favorites and let them in the order they came, saving and restoring them back with most probably keep this order.
However, if you rearrange them and save them again, then they'll be restored in the previous order.
Apparently, they are always restored in the chronological order they were created in the main list - something like that.
When they are saved, it's obvioulsy in this order. Zenyee actually scans the whole contacts database from top to bottom and saves the necessary information from the ones that are marked as belonging to group "1" while he encounters them. That's how it's done.
2) It will sometimes miss some contacts at restoration (and will display the warning). Don't ask me why. Maybe the ones I imported from the "Favorite People" tabs, as opposed to the ones I choosed in the main list, then use "Add to favorite" menu, since they might not have all the necessary information ? It actually looks like that.
In other words, Microsoft method seems to be more reliable than HTC method.
3) Beware if like me you're using 2 PCs, at work and at home, sharing the same Outlook information (information synchronized by ActiveSync, with new contacts added or deleted on one site, then synchronized with the HD, then synhronized again with the other PC, and not everyday, nor each time a change is made. So finally two somewhat different databases !)
Zenyee saves index numbers that refer to the current contacts database. That's the only way he actually links the saved data to the previously restored full contacts list.
If you happen to flash your ROM and restore your contacts from a different PC, restoring your favorites will then do a mess of them !
So I won't be so affirmative saying it will all restore to identical each time.
I could just say "it depends"...
Anyway, the method I explained above still relies on using Zenyee Back FavPeople Up! to restore your favorite in the first place (they'll be just in an incorrect order - or not : it depends, as I said above - with the spare icons at the end), as it's responsible for creating the registry keys.
It also requires you're NOT in case #3, or it won't work either !
Then you can import your previously saved registry data (taking care to fill in unused icons data with "0", or the previously restored favorite will still show in double).
After soft resetting, your favorite will then show in the exact order you saved them, including spare icons in the middle if you had any.
My suggestion doesn't replace what's already existing : it just completes it, ok ?
Hi,
my Sister has the HTC Diamond, and since she has her own Business she wanted me to ask if there was any Way to have a 2nd Phonebook, or Contactlist?
She basically wants to seperate her personal Contacts from her Business Contacts.
Or are there any Settings to sort the Contacts by Groups?
Thanks for any Help, Answers, Solutions.
There's a Filter By option which will allow you to filter your contacts by various categories. You just need to assign the contacts to individual categories for it to work as desired.
When you do a Filter By, it will retain your last selection, so if you Filter By business (or something), it will remain filtered by business until you change it. Not sure if a SR will change it back.
smotrs said:
There's a Filter By option which will allow you to filter your contacts by various categories. You just need to assign the contacts to individual categories for it to work as desired.
When you do a Filter By, it will retain your last selection, so if you Filter By business (or something), it will remain filtered by business until you change it. Not sure if a SR will change it back.
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HOw does she assign the different Groups?
DOes she do that by editing each Contact or does she select a Group somewhere and sets a checkmark in front of the Contacts she wants in the Category?
Thanks for any Answers
groups
much easier if you have icontact.cab
ozzmaster said:
much easier if you have icontact.cab
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Will that work with no Problems without changing Registry?
Cuz she dont wanna go to deep into her Diamond due to the Fact that she might send it in soon anyways due to high Tempratures by Use and Charge (which is normal for the Diamond but not understandable for my SiS)
she can use outlook for editing the contacts with multiplce categories even pictures and just sync everything over ActiveSync/WMDC
wolfes1126 said:
HOw does she assign the different Groups?
DOes she do that by editing each Contact or does she select a Group somewhere and sets a checkmark in front of the Contacts she wants in the Category?
Thanks for any Answers
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Haven't played with iContact, I ended up doing mine by editing each contact and placing them in the desired group.
Icontacts is very helpful for what you want. You can have as many list as you want.
In the first you can write names for your busines ,in the second your personal, in third all. More info, links and a skin i made , here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3261708#post3261708
Has anyone found out how to change the address book listing so that it displays 'Firstname Lastname'? I'd be happy to be proved wrong/stupid but I can't find the setting anywhere nor is it mentioned in the manual.
I couldn't find a way of doing it on the phone, but its easy to change in Outlook contacts and resync.
In fact Outlook lets you sort by any number of variations including user defined views. I have all my clan sorted by Clanname, Firstname, Surname, and eveyone else sorted by Firstname, Surname.
when edit contact, scroll to the bottom for the "other" option, and you should be able to find it somewhere there.
or you can find a freeware called "contactfix" , just google it~
Do it from the contacts app rather than the phone app. Scroll down the options...
I used contactfix. worked well, though I had to run it again when i added more contacts.
I had the same problem but found this little app to solve it.
There is an easier way where as stated before on here
edit contact and go to the bottom and click on more
you'll see the old winmo contacts editor and you can change the way its displayed in the
File as: field
that contactfix does not work for me - I sync with google and then all the contacts are back to last name first name.
blackeby said:
I had the same problem but found this little app to solve it.
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This worked for me. Thanks
Is there anyway to change the view, when in all contacts so that peoples first names and listed first?
thanks
and a happy new year!
You will enjoy this tiny freeware software that does just that: almost instantly order your contacts by first name (or middle name or last name). Look here for Contact Changer. You run it once and 1 second after, all your contacts are sorted. The downside is that it doesn't change standard setting of the program, which means that the default order will still be LAST NAME first. But since the application is free and quick... You could run it everyday.
Happy new year mate
rzasharp said:
You will enjoy this tiny freeware software that does just that: almost instantly order your contacts by first name (or middle name or last name). Look here for Contact Changer. You run it once and 1 second after, all your contacts are sorted. The downside is that it doesn't change standard setting of the program, which means that the default order will still be LAST NAME first. But since the application is free and quick... You could run it everyday.
Happy new year mate
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Thanks man, it works a treat
Happy new year
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Is there anyway to change the view, when in all contacts so that peoples first names and listed first?
thanks
and a happy new year!
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Yes, it's a built-in function. But you have to go right to the bottom of the edit screen for the entry and select it from 'others'.
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Just installed the Contact_changer_v1.3.cab. via file explorer on my HD2, but no joy. Restarted it and checked my contacts, still showing as Last, First.
Am I missing something?
Cheers
Ibb1982 said:
Just installed the Contact_changer_v1.3.cab. via file explorer on my HD2, but no joy. Restarted it and checked my contacts, still showing as Last, First.
Am I missing something?
Cheers
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I think restarting resets it
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Is there anyway to change the view, when in all contacts so that peoples first names and listed first?
thanks
and a happy new year!
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Ye if you select a contact, then go to edit. Scroll to the bottom and select "more". This brings up the standard WM contact editor. Then in the box "File As" Select the "First, Last" option. This is long winded but it survives soft reset.
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Ye if you select a contact, then go to edit. Scroll to the bottom and select "more". This brings up the standard WM contact editor. Then in the box "File As" Select the "First, Last" option. This is long winded but it survives soft reset.
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cool thanks ill do that on a rainy day
You can do that within Outlook, that's probably more convenient than on the phone.
freyberry said:
You can do that within Outlook, that's probably more convenient than on the phone.
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Thats true. I dont use outlook anymore now that there is "my phone" might look if there is the same option on the web site.
Contact_changer_v1.3.cab did the trick for me, thanks guys.
I used the app, I then set the contacts in my outlook to be First:Last and now each time I sync the names are they way they should be as opposed to Last:First. So no need to use the contact changer app on the HD2 anymore, but I'll keep it on there just incase it reverts back to Last:First.
Thanks again
I tried going to edit contact -> More but when I scroll down I don't see "More", just the entries like birthday, spouse etc. Am I in the wrong place?
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I tried going to edit contact -> More but when I scroll down I don't see "More", just the entries like birthday, spouse etc. Am I in the wrong place?
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The bottom 3 data fields are Birthday, Anniversary & Link (for facebook). There's a "More" button below that.
Ah, thats in "people", not "contacts". "More" takes you to the edit menu for contacts - I see the option now.
If you go to contacts, just go edit and it's a few lines down
my god, what a long winded way of doing this !!!!!
I've emailed HTC through their support page, to see if they can release a hotfix or advise a registry tweak, to enable you to select the default contacts display option, without having to edit each and every contact !!!
I imported my contacts from my SIM card.... due to limitations on SIM memory, the names were merged into the Lastname field only, which was fine... in AllPeople they appeared listed correctly
But when I spent 3 hours manually editing every contact in my phone using the inbuilt MyPhone feature (I don't use Outlook on any of my home or work computers), and synched the phone, they all appeared lastname, firstname.... VERY frustrating
And there was NO field or setting within the MyPhone service website (that I could find anyway) that allowed me to set the correct default name-display.
VERY f**ing annoying, as now I have to go through the phone manually and adjust every single contact again !!!!
Come on HTC..... the phones advertised/marketed as being user-friendly.... more-so than other phones.... how about fixing the little name-display issue
Other than that, I don't want to use the cab file listed above, as I really dont want to keep adding new programs to duplicate existing ones that don't quite work the way they should...... and I don't want to have to keep running it every day...... does anyone know if there is a simple quick registry tweak/setting, whereby I can permanently set the default display as First Last ? I'm NEVER going to want my contacts displayed any other way than this.....
This is extremely annoying when you use Google Sync. In order for it to work, you need to edit 1 contact, switch to ActiveSync, press Sync, then go back and edit another.
If you edit more than 1 contact at a time between syncing, it reverts everything back except the last change.
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This is extremely annoying when you use Google Sync. In order for it to work, you need to edit 1 contact, switch to ActiveSync, press Sync, then go back and edit another.
If you edit more than 1 contact at a time between syncing, it reverts everything back except the last change.
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just came across this while browsing and remembered you had said something about googlemail
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-smssyncup.html
Havent checked it out but maybe its of some use to you
installed contact manager (for .99$) all problems sorted out, after retart also remains the same.. thx for the info..
anyone has the old .cab that is free??? would it be possible to upload here?
thanks in advance,
This seems to be another thing that I used to have on the Hong Kong rom (which was on the phone when I got it second hand) and has now disapeared once I have flashed the O2 uk Rom onto the phone.
So so far by putting the o2 UK ROM on the phone my contacts wont sync with FB, no contact images are being imported against the names. The sync all contacts with FB function has gone, so I have to do each one individually, and now I realise the first name second name thing.
Going to try and find the Hong Kong rom off the net and load it on again to see if all this comes back again. Still has the English keyboard so isn't really any different.