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Should I let the poor reception issue put me off buying one?

Hi all,
I am thinking of ordering teh Xperia from mobiles or o2 direct, having already placed an order for hte HD but o2 are taking a ****ing age getting it "approved" or delaying it for whatever reason.
Question is - although i like the look of the xperia i've heard a bad things about the reception and as I'll be using the xperia as a business phone *calls and synching outlook contacts/calendar etc. will the poor reception prove too much of a problem? I woudl only be getting the phone on the o2 network.

I use Vodafone, and I came from using a N95 to an X1 and have noticed a downgrade in signal strength.
I suppose it depends on where you live, if u have had reception problems previous then going to a X1 might be the same maybe worse.
I am absolutely loving this device. It’s taking some time to get used to, but WOW I have all but praises for this phone (apart from the signal strength of course).
My advice would be to get the phone over the internet or telesales. At lease then you should have 14 days to evaluate the phone (that’s what Vodafone UK do – I’m on the 4th day in now)
What I can say, is that the bars on the phone are a bit deceptive, and when it has none/1 bar, I can still make a perfectly good phone call.

smurkej said:
Hi all,
I am thinking of ordering teh Xperia from mobiles or o2 direct, having already placed an order for hte HD but o2 are taking a ****ing age getting it "approved" or delaying it for whatever reason.
Question is - although i like the look of the xperia i've heard a bad things about the reception and as I'll be using the xperia as a business phone *calls and synching outlook contacts/calendar etc. will the poor reception prove too much of a problem? I woudl only be getting the phone on the o2 network.
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I am on Orange UK and get FULL signal strength at home and 3 bars when out and about. I think that's pretty much what I expect from any phone. I really think it all depends on the network and your location, NOT the phone. O2 PAYG sim more or less the same.
Don't let other users experiences put you off. It really is a great phone!

It can still depend on the phone, but then on each separate unit.

sir.chunk said:
I use Vodafone, and I came from using a N95 to an X1 and have noticed a downgrade in signal strength.
I suppose it depends on where you live, if u have had reception problems previous then going to a X1 might be the same maybe worse.
I am absolutely loving this device. It’s taking some time to get used to, but WOW I have all but praises for this phone (apart from the signal strength of course).
My advice would be to get the phone over the internet or telesales. At lease then you should have 14 days to evaluate the phone (that’s what Vodafone UK do – I’m on the 4th day in now)
What I can say, is that the bars on the phone are a bit deceptive, and when it has none/1 bar, I can still make a perfectly good phone call.
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I second this. Its an amazing phone, try it for 14 days and see if the signal will be a problem. It will get better, with radio upgrades and this rumoured antenna upgrade, but for now the signal is passable for me.

Pyrojester said:
I second this. Its an amazing phone, try it for 14 days and see if the signal will be a problem. It will get better, with radio upgrades and this rumoured antenna upgrade, but for now the signal is passable for me.
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rumoured antenna upgrade
Tell me.

xmoo said:
rumoured antenna upgrade
Tell me.
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Damn I can't seem tofind it. It was just a rumor from another user for an antenna upgrade in January 2009 that SE were going to do.
Probably just wishful thinking.

I too have been rather put off by all the negative comments re: poor reception. Although my X1, now 5 day old, only shows 3 bars of reception most of the time, the actual call quality is fine - its just that I've become very aware of any deterioration in sound quality after reading the negative posts.
I'd echo what everyone else has said, try it for yourself & see what its like....just ignore what the phone says its reception is!
It seems this isn't an unknown problem with some other HTC devices and is often improved with a firmware upgrade (at the slight expense of battery life)
Paul

I have no reception Issues I have X1i and X1a in USA

I almost always have GSM, but 3g is sketchy. If you compare it to a nokia E90 with the same sim in, its always 2 bars less.

3G only and no problems with the reception. Most of the time 1 bar less than my old HTC Trinity, which had very, very nice reception.

i've been on to carphonewarehouse today and they say my lack of 3G is the xperia. when I stand next to a colleague with an iphone, they have full 3G and I'm stuck with crappy Edge! I've got a week to decide but at the moment it looks like the xperia is going back.
I suspect those people with good 3G don't live in the UK.

I get really good HSPDA (on Vodafone UK) whilst at work and it's not too bad whilst at home but I prefer to have 2g with Wifi.

I dont see a problem with reception compared to other phones using the same sim, it's hanging onto the signal that's more of an issue. It can go from 2 to no signal fairly quickly without moving the handset.
Comparing number of bars across different makes of phone is not sensible as one manufacturer may use more bars to show the same strength of signal.

Pyrojester said:
Damn I can't seem tofind it. It was just a rumor from another user for an antenna upgrade in January 2009 that SE were going to do.
Probably just wishful thinking.
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Was it this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2908167&postcount=4

xxnoelziexx said:
reception is poor on the x1 my work ordered 150 units which all went back. SE said they will have a new revision Jan09 a rom upgrade will not fix this issue. They need to revise the antenna. I sent my phone back today as at work it could not hold a 3g signal were my HTC Diamond PRO does both on the same network.
The X1 is a good phone but 2 problems for me it is not a keeper the bad keyboard
and reception issues.
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Yeah this is the one.

surprising people are having so many problems with poor reception, i had full reception at home, on my sony ericsson p1i and with my x1i i still get full signal and hsdpa. Still get more or less full signal when i'm not at home. I'm on O2 UK

Picasosz said:
I have no reception Issues I have X1i and X1a in USA
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what part of the usa if u dont mind me asking. im considering getting a X1

Bad Reception on UK Vodafone

Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers

bobtastic said:
Hi all,
I'm on Vodafone in London, and i'm finding i'm getting really poor reception and dropped calls.
After trying out a few ROMS i settled on Energy 21903 build as i've found its the most reliable ROM. I've also tried Artemis and Energy 23569 builds but just found they weren't as stable and crashed at some point.
At the moment i've installed 2.07 Radio.
My problem is that it seems to take ages to detect a signal and sometimes it comes and goes. I also only get one days battery.
Has any other Vodafone users experienced similar problems and whats the best radio for Vodafone in London?
Cheers
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Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.

bobbyball said:
Surprised you say Artemis is unstable, did you do a task 29 before flash. I found this ROM on Vodafone to be excellent. Try the radio in my signature, it seems ok for me but to be honest the best advice I can give is flash one and try it for a few days.
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I found that Artemis works ok for a few days then i start getting problems like system hangs. I found the same thing with Energy at first but then switch to the older windows build and haven't had any problems since.
I'll give you the radio a go, but i just want to know if its my phone thats poor on reception or just that Voda are not as good as they used to be

i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets

colinp said:
i left voda at the start of the year as after 3 years with them the siginal strength was dropping everywhere and became none existant at my house on diffrent handsets
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I'd love to leave them, but unfortunately took up an 18 month contract on November, thinking about my past experience with them was good. What a dope i am.

HI Guys
I have got exactly the same problem with the battery/reception on Vodafone.
I am using Energy May 13th 23569 GTX, with Radio 2.10.50.28_2, and also get 1 day of battery tops.
I have noticed the Phone stays in flight mode sometimes after losing the signal, which is quite annoying.

yo
i live in a complete 2g area and use the radio RADIO_2.10.50.19_2
but as you are london and probably get alot of 3G and H symbols on your HD2 it will probably help but as soon as i visit my girlfriends in lincoln and get H, my phone lasts 1.5 days ish but i am used to charging nightly
its something we have to live with man with these power hungry phones

Im on voda in uk - midlands
I use radio 2.10.50.28.2 and it seems the same as every radio i have tried - at home constantly dropping in and out, from 3 bars 3G - to flight mode and back again.
In work i have almost full signal and H 3-4bars.
Im not too worried about the battery its just the signal at home that pees me off!!
Ive tried (i think) every radio apart from the .51. ones - does anyone know which radio vodafone HD2 shipped with??

If you have bad signal at home, get yourself a SureSignal booster (check it out here)
I use the 2.10.50.28 up here in Glasgow, and I get occasional drops at home, but out and about it's usually always very good. Sitting right now with H at 2-bars.

We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.

rp-x1 said:
We had Vodafone for our corporate phones at my last work, they changed to O2 after a month as so few users managed to get decent signals. That was UK-wide.
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Vodafone and O2 share masts, so signal is generally the same in all areas of the UK for both networks. Of course it does vary slightly from area to area, and radio and make of phone matter too.

I think Voda just aren't as good as they used to be with reception. I think the phone must have something to do with it as well, but the general picture i get when asking around is that they're just not as good as they used to be.
Oh well, gonna try 2.10 and see if its any improvement.

Vodafone reception has been fine for years in all of my Nokia handsets but was so rubbish on the HD2 I was beginning to regret my purchase. Switched to O2 and reception is now fabulous, no regrets now!

Voda signal
Have to agree with most of the people who have posted on this thread. Voda reception is patchy at best.
At times I can be on full strength HSPDA, then for no apparent reason, I'll be in exactly the same spot and the signal just disappears altogether.
Though to be fair, I'm not sure whether to blame it on voda as I came from Three which got a brill signal in all areas, but that's all I really have to compare it too. We do use Voda 3G dongles on laptops at work...and they are absolute crap...lucky if we get a signal, and when we do they're slower than Slowy McSlow on the slow train from Slowsville!!

Voda reception seems to have got really bad this last 2 years they are even offering a home router to boost reception!!??(I think they missed the MOBILE phone part!),
having said that my TP2 had much better reception than the HD2..
I have also tried alot of different roms and Radios I am in Hampshire so not too far from London.... I am using 2.09.50.29_2 along with the cab for call quality fix it is a US Tmo radio, so you need to use with a TmoUS compatible rom.
I know alot of people are using the 2.10 radios but after many trials I have found 2.09 the most stable and best all round for data, reception and battery,
Hope this helps

The whole point of the router is to boost your signal at home. A lot of people live in bad signal areas, but have no problems elsewhere, so that is designed to help me get better signal at home, the one place you can at least do something about it. And apparently, it works very well.

weak 3g reception?

especially from a g1 user's perspective, for me it seems the slide has noticably worse 3g reception; anyone else notice the same?

Yes it does, I'm sure t-mobile will send out radio firmware updates as they did for the g1. I know the last one gave me a big boost. For now you can choose for it to use 3g only and you'll see a lot less dropping to edge, I have mine set like this and sometimes have very low signal but haven't found a spot yet where it was completely dead.

Hmm, that's weird. I used to have the G1 and as soon as I clapped my hand due to my phone getting atleast 1bar of 3G signal it would drop to E. Which meant me not clapping anymore. But with this phone I am clapping once again.

turboyo said:
Yes it does, I'm sure t-mobile will send out radio firmware updates as they did for the g1. I know the last one gave me a big boost. For now you can choose for it to use 3g only and you'll see a lot less dropping to edge, I have mine set like this and sometimes have very low signal but haven't found a spot yet where it was completely dead.
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as I understood the g1 radio update mainly made the phone hold onto a weaker 3g signal longer rather than any substantial improvement in overall reception; where I work I get no signal at all if I lock 3g only whereas with my g1 I had nearly 100% 3g uptime, the g1 might not have been state of the art but it's cell radio sure was pretty impressive compared to every other phone I've owned

i get better reception than what i did with my mytouch 3g and way better uplaod and download speeds to

N1M1TZ said:
Hmm, that's weird. I used to have the G1 and as soon as I clapped my hand due to my phone getting atleast 1bar of 3G signal it would drop to E. Which meant me not clapping anymore. But with this phone I am clapping once again.
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I second this, my G1 gets crappy 3G reception even on the most recent radio. I'm picking up my MT3GS tomorrow.

My G1 was next to my old Razr in having near perfect signal. My slide drops out of 3G quite often, even at my house sitting right next to my wife with my old G1 that is still on 3G.

I've noticed this. It seems to have horrible horrible 3g reception. I was in a tiny guard shack, maybe 10'x10', walls were thin, and most of the side walls were made of glass patio doors. Inside the shack I would get E all the time, I could literally step 6" outside of the shack, right on the curb, and I'd get 4 bars of 3G.

in my building i get 3g in the elevator, must be practically living right under a tower!!
my AT&T phones used to drop the signal as soon as the elevator doors closed.

Upstate NY here and I'm getting the in/out 3G with Tmo, wish they would get their 3G working right before even trying to consider releasing 4G (as I was told by a rep)

My phone can drop in and out of 3G and 2G. If u put the phone on wcdma only it doesn't happen. Mine will hold 3G all day long without a problem and it downstairs burn as much battery either.
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Sorry double post

a few question:
Does anyone know when the radio update will be available?
How does one go about getting the radio update?
Will the radio update work on a rooted phone?
Thanks.

Really??
Are you kidding me??!! I am so surprised (and disappointed) to read this.
First, the Nexus One, then the HD2 (which I owned), and now the MyTouch Slide?? I think I even heard that the Incredible having these issues.
What is it with HTC phones losing reception?
It's one of the reasons (but not the only one) I returned the HD2. I've been strongly considering the MyTouch Slide, but after hearing this, I have to scratch it off the list until/if/when they fix it.
For those who already own this phone, I sincerely hope they fix it for you.

I've noticed weaker 3G speeds also while at work. I've just activated wcdma only it's a lot better now, but I'm at home right now, so I'll post an update tomorrow to see of it is better at work
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

I've noticed it really sucks. I'm sitting in my kitchen right now, where I always had a strong 3G signal on my G1, yet now I don't have one. If Tmobile doesn't fix this soon, I'm considering canceling my contract and going elsewhere.

Ive been having issues for the past 2 months or so (dating back to the G1 btw) where Id be on 3G with full service surfing the internet then everything would stop loading, Id drop down to GPRS and it would stay like that for a few minutes. Then 3G would pick back up again.
Ive been having that issue ever since they started rolling out HSPA+. The TMO reps keep saying that it shouldnt happen, but it is. And not just on my phone. My brothers G1 and now his slide did the same thing and my friends MT3G did it as well.
And this issue isnt in a localized area. Its happening all over VA. Im a roving technician and I get this issue wherever 3G is. If the area only offers Edge, I dont have any issues. When the 3G holds though, its decently quick (check signature).
/rant

Thongvilay said:
Upstate NY here and I'm getting the in/out 3G with Tmo, wish they would get their 3G working right before even trying to consider releasing 4G (as I was told by a rep)
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Tmobile isn't releasing 4g, is expanding its HSPA+ network, which is technically faster than 4g. Be careful when you ask the reps anything. I have had reps tell me things that I know for a fact weren't true but majority of them don't know any better.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

laphoneuser said:
It's one of the reasons (but not the only one) I returned the HD2. I've been strongly considering the MyTouch Slide, but after hearing this, I have to scratch it off the list until/if/when they fix it.
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Take what you read here with a grain if salt. Yes some people experience some 3g coverage issues but that doesn't affect everyone and there are a lot of factors to consider. Nonetheless, if you scratch this phone off your list, you'd be missing out on a great device.
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App

forgot about this thread... turns out due to some strange coincidence at the time I first bought my slide the cell tower where I worked went on the fritz and the tech people weren't updated on it yet. I have 3g again at work but still notice that I drop to edge a bit more often than with my old g1... and the data works absolutely horridly on edge with latency issues and timeouts that the g1 never did. oh well, still a solid device although I have my upgrade credit saved for whatever emerald/vision/vanguard madness TMO has planned for this fall

Dell Streak Reception problem

My first Streak lost reception in every 2-5 minutes, the complete service not just 3G. I got a new sim but same issue. Side of the streak my friends HD or HD2 has a stable 3G or H. I get and exchnage and the new one is different, this get a reception in every 5 minutes only GPRS or EDGE. So try exhange again. DO you guys had any reception problem. I am in Wimbledon Park, in Wimbledon i dont have any problem.

Over on MoDaCo, there were people yesterday having problems in London, and one guy specifically in Wimbledon. Up north, everything if A-OK!

that was me, just i am curious about others opinion, this phone definetly worst than the other in same place same simcard so this is phone issue.

qq67 said:
that was me, just i am curious about others opinion, this phone definetly worst than the other in same place same simcard so this is phone issue.
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According to some other people it's happened on some other android phones. But yeah, definitely a problem that needs to be looked at by Dell or O2.

I lose signal constantly when on 3G/H always dipping in and out, doesn't seem to pick up 3G very often either even in high strength signal areas. Wifi reception is also a lot weaker than my hero. Worth taking back as hardware deficient or do you think mendable by future radio/software upgrade?

I dont know exactly what the procedure is if I get a new one and has a same issue. I already asked carphonewarehouse can i get an other brand but they said i cant, even if the 5th one is faulty or just doesnt work in my flat. I just cant imagine what happens after 4th or 5th faulty phone if i can swap to other model. The exact question is what happens if Streak has an construction problem? Will I spend my weekends in carphonewarehouse to get an exchange? Ridicoluos. the problem is I love Streak but I seriously started to think to get Desire or HD2

I Hope this is not a sign of things to come with the reception issue,will we be getting teething problems ?

qq67 said:
I dont know exactly what the procedure is if I get a new one and has a same issue.
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You can ignore them mate.
Quote the consumer protection act at them if the phone consistently fails to connect. "not fit for purpose"
If they still fail to replace/refund your money, then go straight to a solicitor and go to the small claims court, easy peasy.

I've noticed 2 issues with my streaks' reception.
1) At my house, where I typically get excellent 'H' reception on my HTC WIMO phones, the streak regularly losses all reception, depending on where it is. Moving it by as little as 30cm in a room can make the difference between full signal and no signal. Seems to be an issue with full strength signal. In work, where I get a weaker 'H' signal, I get no drop outs.
2) The WIFI reception always seems weak, steady, but weak. Haven't really had chance to test this outside of my house, so maybe my router setup.
I was wondering where the antennas are, cos maybe I'm "holding it wrong"
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I noticed this 30cm too.
Between me and the keyboard reception zero never 3G or H 30 cm left never lose reception and 50% of the time is H or 3G, sometime i lost the reception middle of conversation if i am not watching where i am
Yesterday we made a Big O2 Reception Party. 3Winmo 2 Iphone 2 Android and the result is this problems definetly comes from O2. The streak maybe more sensitive for sh.t O2 recption than other phones. that is it. this is my 3rd Streak and i cant beleive all 3 was faulty, or it has a big construction error.

Going straight to voicemail
My dell streak has similar signal issues but another problem. Whenever my closest friend calls me, most of the time he is redirected to voicemail straight away! Though, other people are able to call me.

I've got mine on T-mobile and I get the same coverage as my colleague running a T-mobile Desire - 1-2 bars of HSDPA coverage; my X10 would sometimes drop to GPRS in the same location, something that hasn't happened with the Streak yet...
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i get great reception on tmobile in hampshire. H/3g 2/4 bars
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@flumps
Is the Modaco ROM better than the Dell ROM? Any screenshots?

hey guys, just an observation. When I was using my phone with 3g OFF I was losing reception really often, but when I have 3g on it seems to be much more stable. I know this doesnt fix what most of you are seeing, but thought I would share.

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@flumps
Is the Modaco ROM better than the Dell ROM? Any screenshots?
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nothing to screenshot bud. it looks and feels the same as stock rom but a little snappier. its good for a first attempt @ streak rom but nothing flashy about it at this point in time.
back on top. i stand corrected, i have had a issue with reception without even knowing it. i blamed the cut outs on my using task manager and killing something i shouldnt but that doesnt seem to be the case. it knocks completely out randomly and says "no sim card"

I am quite happy with the Dell ROM except that I hate to see Amazon MP3 store app and TouchDown app running everytime I open task manager(even though I kill these). Now TouchDown is a paid app and for some reason Dell thought each and every user of Streak would pay for it so the app must remain installed on device. I know I can root the device and get rid of these apps but that would void warranty(I think).

I was having connection loss issues until I removed the task manager, now it's fine. I think the streak is happier without one.
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My streak has been stuck on 'g' for the past couple of days, up until then i've had a decent hsdpa connection all over town and in work. Called o2 today and they say that there's been no change in coverage. No idea what the issue might be.

if you have a task killer killing sim toolkit then it will kill reception till it restarts.
There does look like an issue with H connection and the streak, I haven't worked out what it is.
IF someone can get steady H access (and has drop outs) and has their streak rooted can you run Dmesg via adb shell to see what feedout there is about it?

Anyone getting very poor reception?

I have had my G2 purchased off contract for 3 days now and other than the hinge issue and the 4g internal issue I find that my device just does not want to hold a signal other than E or G. What little time it spends on H is a small percentage of operation time. In the exact same location and time my Vibrant will hold 3 G at two bars and My Nexus One also at 1 or 2 bars the G2 stays on E at 3 or 4 bars or less and when I attempt to dl something it either hangs and goes to G or stays on E and I get the "trouble connecting with server try again and downland unsuccessful. This is the worst reception I have ever had on a phone in this same exact location. I think the G2 is a wonderful phone having the potential to be a super phone. I am hoping that this is just a defect with this unit and I have arranged to have a replacement. Anyone else having this issue?

may be a defect.. I get the same amount of 3G bars that I got on my Blackberry 9700 which is usually around full the areas I frequent.

To the OP I get the same exact problem. Unable to connect to Market even on Edge.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
Data Issue Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800322

ddgarcia05 said:
I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I got off of the phone with a Rep from T Mobile and they claimed they had to change my web plan to suit the G2. They claimed different connections.They did give it to me at the same price as before but they also claimed it would completely change what has been happening to the device and my other phones(Vibrant and Nexus One) would see an improvement as well. So far after about 5 hours no change whatsoever except for slightly poorer reception. I am beginning to wonder if this G2 is star crossed and was not ready for prime time. I am starting to doubt anything TMobile says at this point.

i get poor reception unless im completely out in the open. i get no reception at all in house vs my iphone 2g, which got solid reception.

I get little to no reception in my basement, whereas with my BB 8900 the reception was poorer but still workable. At least the data works over Wifi.

getting the same problem with both of the G2`s i purchased data service drops and then comes back but thats been happening for about a month even on my touch pro 2

Happened to me also
My first G2 would randomly go from full bars to absolutely no service at all and I would have to turn it off and on to get service again. Since my vibrant wasn't having and problems like that I went and exchanged it for another G2. I haven't dropped signal but I frequently go from full bars 3g to edge or g and back and my data connection seems to hang every once and a while

I have great reception. Just a good as any other device I have had.

I got a replacement G2 yesterday afternoon and it is worse than the first one. The reception or I should say lack of reception is ludicrous. This is after T Mobile supposedly put me on a different connection type (whatever that is ) they could not explain it but did not increase my bill. The radio reception is much worse. The hinges are much looser than the first one and overall I am not a happy camper with this device. I go from 3 bars of H immediately to G than to 2 bars E and then no signal. It just fluctuates. Connecting to market is about a ten or 20 minute affair if it actually finally does connect. Downloading is sporadic at best. Phone has great potential IMO but it is flawed as released.

I get full bars of (H) a majority of the places I am. I'm out in jersey.
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I'm having the opposite issue as most; my cell connection is solid, but as soon as I hold the phone in landscape mode (or press my palm along the 'top' in portrait mode) I lose wifi connectivity instantly. Wifi Analyzer shows between a 20 and 30 dBa drop with either a G or N AP... apparently enough to go from four bars to zero, when I'm standing ten feet from my AP, and even more if I'm in the next room. I've tried the same thing with my G1, and I get at most a 5 dBa drop no matter which way I hold it.
Anyone else having this issue? TMo said that I was the first to call in with it, and to try returning/exchanging the phone under the 'buyer's remorse' period.
...I'll have to find another store though; the PFY manager at my local couldn't seem to understand why I would want to use wifi when I get solid HSPA+ signal, and insisted on redirecting me to the TMo Support phone number. He also seemed to be under the impression that wifi was slower than HSPA. Which might be true, if I didn't pay for a 28mbit connection at home. Or hadn't already hit the TMo 10GB/mo throttle cap.. which drops the data connection speed to 50kbps maximum. With no alternate 'truly unlimited' plan or way to buy even another 10GB.

I have had nothing but "H" yes i am in Boston, yes, yes.
Going to Maine this weekend, will let you know what it does.
H for Hysterically Hyperspeed

Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.

Fresno, CA G2 very poor data connections though hspa+
Very bad speeds in Fresno, CA that is HSPA+. Usually less than 1Mb down. Often see less than 500k. At a TMobile store with "a cell tower across the street pointing right at us" my G2 and the stores G2 demo phone only got a 3mb down.
I also see a weird pattern of less than 300k down with above 1.2M up often. There is a YouTube video showed some similar Speedtest.net hi/lo combo results called:
T-mobile G1 vs G2 "the face off"

same issue
i am having the same issue and i am bout 20 miles north of charlotte nc there has to be a problem with the antenna or something but who knows.

Atlant, Signal much better with G2 than with Vibrant. Thats about all I can say about it.

Mines is great if im not @ home. Dl are fast and full 4 bars. But we moved to another house which the signal sucks bad. I normaly get 1bar and edge but hell the g1 did the samething. So I dont see a probelm with the phone just tmobile network
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Du22ty said:
Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
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Same here. About to take this bad boy back