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I'm looking for a program that enables me to call somebody using bluetooth tech, offcourse the other pair will be in the range of 10m.
what put that program in my mind is that there is such a communications between the mobile and the bluetooth headset, why not become between two mobiles..!
so, there might be a program that enable me and the other pair to chat with each other using mobiles with the required program installed at our pockets...!
this will be quite handy when we travel with cars and chat with each other for a FREE!
now, the question will be: ARE THERE SUCH A PROGRAM ?
Help Please...
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...&platformId=2&N=96806&productId=43503&R=43503
Try this but the other person must have a Pocket PC too.
http://www.handango.com/PlatformPro...&platformId=2&N=96806&productId=33385&R=33385
For any bluetooth communication handheld or mobile phone chat, try this
Hi there,
I am going to buy a new car (well, a used one, but new for me) and I am looking for a good reliable handsfree which is known to work with a raphael.
What I want is: Phonebook synchronization (SIM + internal phonebook), voice dialling (i.e. you say the name of a contact in the phonebook. I don't need to be able to call an unknown number which is not in my phonebook by voice).
Radio muting.
I found some parrot devices (like mki9100), but some people had problems with parrot's handsfrees and windows mobile devices...
Does anyone own a handsfree which he can recommend?
What car do you own?
Yes parrott can have issues with WM devices, but it is very rare, i personally have never had a problem with the combination. Try and find out if your car manufacturer has a factory unit. I have an Audi and the TP works very well with all features.
Hope it helps
It will be a Volkswagen Golf V - Volkswagen has two handsfrees but the better of them costs about 900 EUR with installation/mounting because it is best inserted when the car is assembled... And it demands rSAP which causes problems with some HTC devices...
pen² said:
It will be a Volkswagen Golf V - Volkswagen has two handsfrees but the better of them costs about 900 EUR with installation/mounting because it is best inserted when the car is assembled... And it demands rSAP which causes problems with some HTC devices...
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rSAP works perfectly with the TP.
Parrot ck3100 works perfect with my pro!
It's good news that rsap works well with the device - maybe I can get the better VW handsfree installed for cheap when I buy the car...
For the Parrot ck3100 I have a question... In my old car I had a Parrot Rhythm'n'blue car radio with BT handsfree. The problem with the raphael was, when I have a contact John Doe who has a home and a mobile number, the handsfree would display two separate contacts for this:
John Doe / H
John Doe / M
Before this was one contact with multiple numbers which could be chosen by saying "private" or "mobile".
Is this still an issue with the ck3100?
I would recommend using the 3200LS it's colour, and you can specify what number you want by saying "Home, Mobile etc"
And you can store the picture of the person in the kit also
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000EPQ4C4/400001517-21/?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
mmh actually it's a bit too big for me - I was thinking of something smaller and more subtle like the Mki 9100 (http://www.parrot.com/uk/products/hands-free-car-kits/parrot-mki9100) or (but this would be more expensive) the FISCON (http://www.fiscon-mobile.eu/) which is possible with my car as it will have a touchscreen radio which will be used for displaying the address book etc.
I have an HP Ipaq 310 that has all of these and works great. It is also a navigation unit running IGO.
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mmh actually it's a bit too big for me - I was thinking of something smaller and more subtle like the Mki 9100 (http://www.parrot.com/uk/products/hands-free-car-kits/parrot-mki9100) or (but this would be more expensive) the FISCON (http://www.fiscon-mobile.eu/) which is possible with my car as it will have a touchscreen radio which will be used for displaying the address book etc.
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This is exactly like the RNS-E head unit that are fitted to Audi's Works a treat, but enjoy parting with €400
Hi everybody,
is there any news using the Mercedes Bluetooth SAP cradle with the HTC Touch HD?
Comand will detect the Phone, but then won't trigger the authentication dialog on the phone but instead gives up immediately.
Thanks
Frank
The version using remote SIM access will not work, you have to replace it with the Hands Free Profile adaptor Mercedes Part No:B6787 5877, which works fine but doesn't use the antenna and amp built into the car, it uses the phone's own antenna so connection is not as reliable. Has been working OK for me though.
SAP compatibility
Yeh, I would of thought a high profile phone like the HD would support this.
I have had to settle for the far inferior HFP with poor connectivity and reception.
I don't think it is rocket science, but perhaps less of a priority for our wizards at XDA.
Would welcome any suggestions besides changing my phone or my car.
I'm using the MB Bluetooth cradle adaptor in an '07 ML. Pairs up and works great for answering and dialing out but there is no access to the HD phonebook or previously dialed numbers. Sad as the wifes iPhone is 100% compatible.
mmdirk
I have exactly the same problem,just added a new post on this!
I find that once you flash a rom you can have full functionality but when you add any extra programs you cannot view the address book or the recent calls.Very frustrating.
It would be awesome if someone stumbled upon a tweak that would correct the problem. I'll try some bluetooth setting changes in montecristoff's HD tweak and report back if I have any success.
I am using the VW Passats Sim Access Profile and this works perfectly. Make sure that the SAP is activated under the bluetooth settings on the phone..
I also cannot sync the adress book, but had the same problem with my old Touch. Guess this is a WinMob problem. A workaround is to use the SIM Manager and copy your contacts on your SIM card as well, they won't show up in the contact list anyhow. Then have the car sync with the SIM card and all is ok...
remko
Thanks,I've tried that,unfortunately it still does not work.Considering this state of the art equipment,its very sad that there is still no solution after many years(given that I am sure this is possible with a little effort by the people in the know how).Mercedes have screwed this up big-style..again
Actually, I'm not sure its MB's fault. Like I said the wifes iPhone is 100% compatible and so was her Motorola razr before that. To me this points the finger at WM.
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Actually, I'm not sure its MB's fault. Like I said the wifes iPhone is 100% compatible and so was her Motorola razr before that. To me this points the finger at WM.
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Actually it's Mercedez's fault. MB is known by the lack of support for BT connection on their cars...
My father has a CLS, and by default only supports a handful of mobile phones. He has a SE k800i and the CLS wont go with that phone. And there's a official list, from MB, with only a few phones that work with the builtin BT on the CLS.
On the other hand his phone works like a charm, like my HD, on my BMW S1. This also includes full support on BT SAP.
Shame to MB
Note: I don't know if these issues have changed lately, ie more support to more BT phones from MB on their cars. Maybe now MB has more support on this.
I've got a jvc headunit which is pairing nicely and auto connecting with my hd, one main issue though it it doesn't seem to be sending through the id3 tags, anyone managed to get these sent through from htc touchflo 3d?
i`m having the same problem! using the HTC Touch Pro with Mercedes Bluetooth HFP Cradle on E Class. Everything works perfect, except the thing, that i can`t see my contacts on the Command!
Any suggestions, please
N95 and SAP
I have a Nokia N95 8gb and I'm thinking of buying the Mercedes bluetooth SAP-profile for my CLK. I was a bit surprised though when I read on www.viseeo.se (in Sweden) that the SAP-profile does not import the contacts from the phone memory, only the SIM-memory.
Anybody using N95 with the MB SAP that can confirm this?
I prefer original MB products of course.
Thanks!
I can confirm that the N95 8GB works with the SAP module but you do have to copy your contacts onto the SIM.
Rapidly starting to regret getting a new Sony X1...
Are there any news about this problem?
I cannot connect the htc touch hd with the BT craddle from my mercedes glk (partnbr: A2048200535).
I had no problems with accessing the phonebook (POL and SIM) with the HFP Module on my 2005 C-Class (Comand) and my Orbit. The 2009 C-Class uses a different system so I cant say anything about the HD. BUT, I had good success (in the former car) with this little software when it came to the sync of bigger contact lists: JetWare Mobile http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Lets you choose what contacts you want to sync. Perhaps it helps you with your problem, too.
Tobbi
I use the FISCON Pro for Volkswagen RNS-510 and RCD-510 Bluetooth Hands-Free unit in my car. This Hands-Free unit uses a Parrot chipset and directly connects to the CAN-Bus of the Vehicle making it easy to install.
Up until a recent Firmware update everything worked fine.
After the Firmware Update to Release 1.83 I experienced that the Bluetooth Connection is dropped after every phonecall. And to establish it back on one has to Toggle Bluetooth on the Touch HD or power down the RNS headunit. Quite inconvenient for daily use on the road, and annoying.
I had conversations with the Producer Kufatec and the Distributor I bought the Fiscon unit from. Apparently there was a change in the Firmware that created this behaviour.
Now doing research on this I came across the Windows Mobile SDK Documentation and the documented registry entries allowing to control the behaviour of the Bluetooth Audio Gateway.
And these are now the settings that brought back the stability of the BT Connection inbetween calls:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"SupportCLI"=dword:00000001
"OutgoingCallOption"=dword:00000002
"PowerSave"=dword:00000000
"NoHandsFree"=dword:00000000
"BTAGExtModuleVersion"="2008.12.18.0"
"ConnectHFOnCall"=dword:00000001
"ConnectScoInAlways"=dword:00000001
"Capability"=dword:00000065
"BTAGExtModule"="OEMAGW.dll"
"BTAGPBModule"="\Windows\BthAGPhonebook.dll"
"NoRoleSwitch"=dword:00000001
I did not explicitly test each individual entry, however reading the documentation "PowerSave" might have had the most contribution. "PowerSave" allows to set if the BT Control Channel will stay alive between phone calls. It was disabled on default on my unit, and that would explain why the Fiscon unit lost connection after every call as Windows Mobile was putting the BT Control Channel to sleep.
You may read the full documentation on these Registry Settings here on the MSDN Website:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915920.aspx
Just for completeness these are the settings for the AudioGateway Module and Extensions (Windows Mobile 6.5, cooked by XANNY):
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"BTAGExtModuleVersion"="2008.12.18.0"
"BTAGExtModule"="OEMAGW.dll"
"BTAGPBModule"="\Windows\BthAGPhonebook.dll"
Then I discovered the settings for the BT AudioGateway Service, that also carry a "PowerSave" entry and which I set to (0) to disable any PowerSave for the Service (I assume):
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\BTAGSVC]
"PowerSave"=dword:00000000
"IsEnabled"=dword:00000001
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Prefix"="BAG"
"Keep"=dword:00000001
"Order"=dword:00000009
"Dll"="BTAGSVC.Dll"
"FriendlyName"="Bluetooth Audio Gateway"
With these changes I performed to my Touch HD's Windows Mobile 6.5 it cooperates nicely again with the Hands-Free unit, keeping the BT Connection up.
I want to document and share this here, to help other Touch HD or Windows Mobile users that have similar trouble with their Bluetooth HandsFree unit.
Please perform any changes resulting from this post on your own Windows Mobile unit with your full self-responsibility.
Hi
I have the same Fiscon Pro on my Volkswagen Passat with the RCD-510. Unlike you I got a HTC Touch Diamond 2 (Topaz) with WM 6.5
I had the Problem you described prior to 1.83. Now all is fine but I cant access teh Phonebook from within the middle-console in my car. Does this work with you?
cheers
btw. my Registry has some interesting differences to yours:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"BTAGExtModuleVersion"="2008.12.18.0"
"BTAGExtModule"="\Programme\JETware\JetBTHFx.dll"
"BTAGPBModule"="OEMAGW.dll"
wtf?
Can anyone tell me if there is a technical reason Bluetooth SAP/rSAP cannot be delivered on the Windows Phone 7 platform, or are the just being lazy about delivering it??
So... no reply cause nobody knows or no reply cause I'm being a n00b and this is answered elsewhere? Or something worse?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
esackbauer said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
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Thanks - just saw that qualified listing and was a little disappointed. I checked the one for Apple iOS (listed as software version 4.1 and 4.2) and it also doesn't mention SAP or rSAP, but I know it does support those profiles, so I'm wondering whether I am just reading it wrong.
The differences are that iOS has:
RFCOMM
Bluetooth Network Encapsulation Protocol
Personal Area Networking Profile
HID
Interop Test Spec
Which one of these is linked to SAP/rSAP?
How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
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How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
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Well I suppose to be clear I don't "know", I just "think". The reason I "think" is because it communicates with my car, that says it "requires" SIM Access Profile, whereas my phone REFUSES to communicate with my car.
Additional detail: the car actually supports 2 bluetooth "modes": Headphone mode and SIM Access mode. If I have the car initiate the bluetooth connection it will use the remote SIM mode, and if the phone initiates the connection it will use the "headphones" mode.
A Nokia N97 works in both directions. As does the iPhone 3 and 4. My Samsung Omnia 7 won't do either.
Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
PBA and your interpretation of it being very similar to SAP sounds quite interesting yet it will most likely not be recognized by SAP-only car-kits like the older VW premium handsfree-boxes. I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
Well, anyhow. I was going to say, that if the PBA doesn't support some kinda fake-SAp mode (pretend to be sap or so) it will most likely not help anyone with sap-only car kits. not matter how much it is similar to sap.
sorry to say this.
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I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
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While i have both versions of Windows OS and yes the 6.x suported rSAP, the new WP7 does not. If you want a new phone that supports rSAP then Android fills the bill. Microsoft really dropped the ball by not supporting rSAP. Like you, have a VW-based phone system and without rSAP support the current handsfree phone protocols in WP7 is basically worthless.
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Just updated my phone to Mango, and annoyingly neither the headphone mode or reomte SIM modes work. This is a deal-breaker for me.
While I was quite enjoying the phone I am now going to switch to a Galaxy SII which works reliably in both directions, and connects properly to my WiFi as well. A real shame, but I can't imagine another WP update will be coming too soon and I don't have any patience left.
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Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
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Since update my Omnia 7 to Mango, I get a lot of "BT connection error" on my display car.
all working here.
car radio is a Kenwood.
Finally now the phone transmits the name of the song playing to the headunit! like windows mobile.
Voice comands thru the Headunit work amazing too.The other day i received an sms while driving, voice comand told me that there was a new sms from Ken,then it ask me if i wanted it read out loud! I said yes and it did, at the end it ask me if i want it to reply to.
Also this is the only phone that actually auto connects to the car stereo,all my android devices need to be reconnected manually.
Funny thing all of this was set up by just pairing the device with the headunit.
Well my "head unit" is integrated into the dash - it's a Porsche touch screen system called PCM (which I think, lamely, stands for Porsche Control Module). I have anecdotal evidence that other WP7 models will connect which makes me think it may actually be the Samsung Omnia 7 itself and not WP7 per se.
What sux is that my Samsung Galaxy S2 works perfectly and my wife's iPhone4 works perfectly. So it isn't the car.
...I really haven't got the patience to wait for the Win8 update and keep using headphones for the next year!
some news here?