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A possible 3G/EDGE connection fix (for previous G1/MT3G owners)

My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday and had it replaced. The T-mobile guy I was talking to said that the 3G issue might be happening because I still had the G1 data plan and not the android data plan. I have no idea why this would matter. But since he changed that, and my SIM, I have had great 3G reception in places where I used to only get EDGE.
I thought I would share.
Also, if you want to test this just call up T-Mobile and ask them to switch you from the G1 data plan to the android connection. It doesn't cost a penny.

Your SIM was cooked by your nexus one.... wait, what?

ryan22158 said:
My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday and had it replaced. The T-mobile guy I was talking to said that the 3G issue might be happening because I still had the G1 data plan and not the android data plan. I have no idea why this would matter. But since he changed that, and my SIM, I have had great 3G reception in places where I used to only get EDGE.
I thought I would share.
Also, if you want to test this just call up T-Mobile and ask them to switch you from the G1 data plan to the android connection. It doesn't cost a penny.
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Isn't the Android data plan more expensive?

AverageCanadian said:
Isn't the Android data plan more expensive?
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No. They had the G1 data plan first but then when they came out with T-Mobile's Visual Voicemail to get it to work you had to have the plan switched to the Android plan (same price).
Also, OP, tell us how did you fry your SIM?

funny you mention that, I opened a new acct with the mob and on my bill it says 'android plan' $0.00. i asked what that was and he said it was for 3G.....

ryan22158 said:
My SIM was cooked by my Nexus yesterday...
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wait, what??

This the second time, My g1 did it too. Don't think melted plastic or anything like that. I have a theory that the SIM sits right on top of the processor and other components in the phone. If you haven't noticed the phone can get really hot when charge (no my phone is not broken). I think it might be my charging habits. I run the battery to about 25-30% and then let it charge all night. So, that might have something to do with it.
No worries about your cool Nexus One because I honestly think this is a HTC hardware design problem. Also, I am sure these cheap little SIMs (insert bad Sim video game pun ) aren't meant to handle much heat.
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This could possibly be a registration issue on the sim due to the flapping. The older model sims generally start to fail/suffer around 90k registrations (If you reg on a tower @ 3g, then switch to 2g, then back to 3g, that's 3 registrations right there).

The original G1 plan had $25/month for data + 400 texts, and $35/month for data + unlimited texts.
The Android plan has $25/month for data only, and $35/month for unlimited texts. You lose the 400 free texts, even though it's the same cost.
As for the Android plan having $0.00, I'm assuming it's from the Even More Plus bundle.

G1 Data plan is the same as the Android data plan. There is one with 400 texts on it that is a part of a bundle basically. Basically what I'm saying is all of the android data plans will work on all of the T-Mobile phones because they are the same...I still have my G1 data plan on my line and my 3G is flawless and I don't even live in a major market (Jacksonville, FL). I work for T-Mobile and know this to be true. Granted I always put the designated plan for each phone, but I'm almost 100% positive it doesn't make a difference. The cooked sim thing sounds shady too. Your G1 didn't "cook" your sim. Just my $0.02...

Get this though. I had my G1, SIM died about a month of use, Nexus One died after one week. Now my manager has a MT3G and bought it new about 4 months ago and had the same SIM for the past 6 years, died yesterday. He had a Wing before the MT3G, but his SIM never. I also have another co-worker with a G1, but no data plan. His SIM has been fine ever since he bought his G1 off some chick.
3G sucks in the Minneapolis area. I am always connecting and reconnecting, happened with my G1 too. Not to blame you or anything. I think the connect reconnect issue here in the Mpls/St. Paul area might have something to do with the dying SIM cards.
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G1 Data plan is the same as the Android data plan. There is one with 400 texts on it that is a part of a bundle basically. Basically what I'm saying is all of the android data plans will work on all of the T-Mobile phones because they are the same...I still have my G1 data plan on my line and my 3G is flawless and I don't even live in a major market (Jacksonville, FL). I work for T-Mobile and know this to be true. Granted I always put the designated plan for each phone, but I'm almost 100% positive it doesn't make a difference. The cooked sim thing sounds shady too. Your G1 didn't "cook" your sim. Just my $0.02...
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I am relatively new to SIM cards, coming from the dreaded CDMA. Is there any special care I should take with them??

Orangeandblue302 said:
I am relatively new to SIM cards, coming from the dreaded CDMA. Is there any special care I should take with them??
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I've had my SIM since I joined T-mobile in January of 2003. I only replaced it because the paint on one side was chipping a little and I didn't want it to clog up my phone. Special care...? Just pop it in and leave it. Nothing special needed.

uansari1 said:
I've had my SIM since I joined T-mobile in January of 2003. I only replaced it because the paint on one side was chipping a little and I didn't want it to clog up my phone. Special care...? Just pop it in and leave it. Nothing special needed.
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I meant special care, as in not letting it get to hot or charging it a specific way, not cleaning it or anything.

Orangeandblue302 said:
I meant special care, as in not letting it get to hot or charging it a specific way, not cleaning it or anything.
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No... it's just a sim card man. No worries.

I'm reposting my post in the development forum for you guys... thought you may be interested:
So I've been following this issue on Google's support website, and one of the rooted users over there is almost positive it's a software issue with 2.1. He actually flashed a port of 2.0.1. Although he got lots of FC's, obviously as 2.0.1 isn't made for the N1, he was getting excellent 3G connectivity, and constant speeds over 1500kbps!
Here's the link so you can read for yourself. The user's name is GNove.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40c2&hl=en#all

uansari1 said:
I'm reposting my post in the development forum for you guys... thought you may be interested:
So I've been following this issue on Google's support website, and one of the rooted users over there is almost positive it's a software issue with 2.1. He actually flashed a port of 2.0.1. Although he got lots of FC's, obviously as 2.0.1 isn't made for the N1, he was getting excellent 3G connectivity, and constant speeds over 1500kbps!
Here's the link so you can read for yourself. The user's name is GNove.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/...40c2&hl=en#all
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Dead link.

Breakthecycle2 said:
Dead link.
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The link was working earlier. Go to the help site and click on the link for 3G problems. GNove posted there...

HD2 Unlocked on AT&T - No data plan?

Hi everyone,
I recently purchased an unlocked T-Mobile version of the HD2 and am using it on AT&T.
I had a couple of questions:
1) The phone is registered as a blackberry 7290 so will I be required to get the data plan?
2) Is there any way to avoid the data plan while still using the phone? This really is a deal breaker for me since I don't want to shell out 30 bucks to AT&T. I don't need a data plan but if I would have to get it, I wouldn't use the phone and go back to my old flip phone.
Have any of you guys had any success in avoiding the data plan?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
P.S. I really don't care much for the data features or the social networking. Mainly wanted this phone for the beautiful screen and the great camera.

Call them up and tell them you changed phones and want the data plan dropped. Give them the IMEI of a dumbphone when they ask for it (Google for one if you have to.. people give them away on message boards all the time when they want to unlock their phones). Ask them to drop your data plan and add a data block on the line so you don't get billed for WinMo accessing the network on your behalf. From there, you're set.
I've done this and I can get away with AT&T's $10 data plan. I still get full 3G service.

I'll try that tomorrow. That sounds much better. I didn't tell them I have a smartphone obviously. But I did ask them if they can do such a block but they said that its dualband so their system registers it as a sort of "smartphone". Did your AT&T rep tell you that?
On a side note, isn't there a way for them to verify the IMEI? I mean I can give them my IMEI for an old Nokia Phone, but wouldn't they know that isn't the case since they can see the HD2 IMEI?
Thanks for the reply!

[email protected] said:
I'll try that tomorrow. That sounds much better. I didn't tell them I have a smartphone obviously. But I did ask them if they can do such a block but they said that its dualband so their system registers it as a sort of "smartphone". Did your AT&T rep tell you that?
On a side note, isn't there a way for them to verify the IMEI? I mean I can give them my IMEI for an old Nokia Phone, but wouldn't they know that isn't the case since they can see the HD2 IMEI?
Thanks for the reply!
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No they didn't tell me that. Call and try again because that CS rep is an idiot or trying to get you some data charges.
At present they can't verify the IMEIs, not over the phone at least.

ATT royally screwed me, they said I had a black berry, I told them I did not. They said if I used any "smart phone" off contract I had to pay for data.
They forced me onto a black berry plan, and told me I had to take my phone to the store and prove it was not a black berry, and if it was in fact a smart phone they would "back" bill me
So then I asked to block the data plan, since I am off contract, they told me that they could not do it, so I told them I was changing carriers.
I will just sell my HD2 and be done with att, go to verizon and hope for better service.
I have been an ATT customer for over 8 years

friend'scatdied said:
No they didn't tell me that. Call and try again because that CS rep is an idiot or trying to get you some data charges.
At present they can't verify the IMEIs, not over the phone at least.
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The AT&T system does a scan every so often and updates the IMEI that is being used with the sim, that is how they can tell what phone you are using, The system can can only recognize ATT phones that is why it sees it as an old BB.

zelendel said:
The AT&T system does a scan every so often and updates the IMEI that is being used with the sim, that is how they can tell what phone you are using, The system can can only recognize ATT phones that is why it sees it as an old BB.
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Yes, my OLAM shows that I have a BlackBerry Bold 9700. Yet I am on $30 unlimited data/text for dumbphones since they have a different IMEI on file. AFAIK the only IMEIs AT&T can recognize ATM besides their own is that of HTC Google Nexus Ones of the T-Mobile variety.

I'll call today and see what they will do. AT&T sucks though and their CS in my experience are jerks soooo...yeah.
Thanks for all the help you guys.
@friend'scatdied: Are you using the Australian version to get AT&T 3G? aren't those different and perhaps totally unrecognizable by AT&T?

[email protected] said:
@friend'scatdied: Are you using the Australian version to get AT&T 3G? aren't those different and perhaps totally unrecognizable by AT&T?
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Yeah, I'm using the Australian Telstra T9193 version. It's more complicated than that but suffice to say I will be among the last to be caught by them, if ever.

Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.

[email protected] said:
Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.
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That's just plain stupid. I never get abysmal customer service like that though I am on a FAN plan (so I get Premier Business CS). There should be no reason for them to disallow you from downgrading or removing your data plan.

Its just AT&T wanting to mooch off people. Its ok...I guess I can still use the HD2 as a super duper expensive PDA with a lot of cool features and a *****in' camera right?

[email protected] said:
Called in today but it looks like they want proof of the phone since their system reads my phone as different. The CS was very polite but said there is nothing she could do since the system automatically scans for IMEI and the scan will change it to the BB 7290...guess I can't really keep the phone then without the lame data plan
Oh well thanks for all the help you guys, I guess I'm doomed to mediocre phones until I find one that I like which won't require a ridiculously expensive data-plan.
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Yeah its a major downer considering that the HD2 is on edge only and has very few apps that pull much data.
Its reason enough for me to sell mine, I can't use tmobile as they dont have service where I live, so verizon here I come!

digitallysick said:
ATT royally screwed me, they said I had a black berry, I told them I did not. They said if I used any "smart phone" off contract I had to pay for data.
They forced me onto a black berry plan, and told me I had to take my phone to the store and prove it was not a black berry, and if it was in fact a smart phone they would "back" bill me
So then I asked to block the data plan, since I am off contract, they told me that they could not do it, so I told them I was changing carriers.
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That is absolute crap. I can understand requiring a data plan if they subsidize a smart phone, but if you are off contract and bring your own phone there is absolutely no reason they should do this. If I were you I would file a complaint with the FCC.

BAMF said:
That is absolute crap. I can understand requiring a data plan if they subsidize a smart phone, but if you are off contract and bring your own phone there is absolutely no reason they should do this. If I were you I would file a complaint with the FCC.
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Or go through retentions. I understand their retentions department wouldn't try to pull moves like this.

I was in the EXACT same predicament, att tried making me get the mandatory data plan which in fact I kicked and screamed about..What I found out is, that once you unlock the phone it doesnt register to att, basically it reads as the same phone you had currently registered with att. You WONT be required to but you will have wifi

chochard said:
I was in the EXACT same predicament, att tried making me get the mandatory data plan which in fact I kicked and screamed about..What I found out is, that once you unlock the phone it doesnt register to att, basically it reads as the same phone you had currently registered with att. You WONT be required to but you will have wifi
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Really? Do explain more please..

[email protected] said:
Hi everyone,
I recently purchased an unlocked T-Mobile version of the HD2 and am using it on AT&T.
I had a couple of questions:
1) The phone is registered as a blackberry 7290 so will I be required to get the data plan?
2) Is there any way to avoid the data plan while still using the phone? This really is a deal breaker for me since I don't want to shell out 30 bucks to AT&T. I don't need a data plan but if I would have to get it, I wouldn't use the phone and go back to my old flip phone.
Have any of you guys had any success in avoiding the data plan?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
P.S. I really don't care much for the data features or the social networking. Mainly wanted this phone for the beautiful screen and the great camera.
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I'm paying $15 / 200MB data plan with att. I once had no data plan, pay per use. I might just switch to tmo.

Just curious, if i install a custom rom on my hd2 do i still have to unlock it to use it on at&t?
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chip0 said:
Just curious, if i install a custom rom on my hd2 do i still have to unlock it to use it on at&t?
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yea you do, the ROMs don't unlock the device.

[Q] Giving my G1 to my son. Will he be billed for data?

More a T-Mobile question than a G1 question, but no one knows more than this community, so here goes:
I just got a Vibrant and want to possibly give my G1 to my son, who has no data plan on his line. I think he's less than a year into his two year contract with a cheap little Motorola phone. He's okay with using the phone without a data plan while he's out and about and just using the wifi when available, but if I recall, T-Mobile used to automatically add a data plan to the line when activated. Do they still do this and if so, is there a way to avoid this? The G1 is rooted, btw, if that makes any difference.

Yes u still need a data plan according to T-Mobile. Thankfully we have xda modders. Lol. Go to g1 section and search for how to activate a g1 without a data plan. That will fix u up. Good luck
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It shouldn't be a problem. If you installed one of Cyanogen Mods roms, you can register via Wifi by skipping it and setting it up than linking up your Google account after.
T-Mobile adds a data plan when your phone is being activated.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452316&highlight=sdk
i followed this and it worked great!

If he USES data, he will be CHARGED for it. If he wishes to NOT BE CHARGED FOR DATA, be sure to disable data usage.

OP is asking if they automatically add a data plan when a new SIM card is detected. No, they do not!
If your son doesn't know about root, UNROOT IT! T-Mobile will not charge any data usage if there is no data plan. I have a friend with no data plan and unrooted and he is unable to use any data. Market will not load without wifi and same for browser or any application or function that requires data.

r3s-rt said:
OP is asking if they automatically add a data plan when a new SIM card is detected. No, they do not!
If your son doesn't know about root, UNROOT IT! T-Mobile will not charge any data usage if there is no data plan. I have a friend with no data plan and unrooted and he is unable to use any data. Market will not load without wifi and same for browser or any application or function that requires data.
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Don't be so sure of that!
With most carriers, without a data plan, it will be on PAY PER USE!

Actually i have the same problem here. i want to get an samsung vibrant without a contract on ebay. but i don't want to use data plan. i am afraid that tmobile will add an data plan for me as well. so the answer to this question will help me as well. lol
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lianglqufo said:
Actually i have the same problem here. i want to get an samsung vibrant without a contract on ebay. but i don't want to use data plan. i am afraid that tmobile will add an data plan for me as well. so the answer to this question will help me as well. lol
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They can't legally charge you for something you didn't agree to.
Did you agree to letting them charge you for that? If the answer is NO, then they can't legally charge you for it.

lianglqufo said:
Actually i have the same problem here. i want to get an samsung vibrant without a contract on ebay. but i don't want to use data plan. i am afraid that tmobile will add an data plan for me as well. so the answer to this question will help me as well. lol
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Easiest way to avoid any issues:
Download APNDroid, APN on/off widget, etc, and turn 3G/Edge/Gprs off. I'm not sure if you will still be able to send and receive MMS though. You will need somebody else's simcard with a data plan to activate. I am unsure if JF's way of activating through wifi applies to the vibrant.

Shrivel said:
More a T-Mobile question than a G1 question, but no one knows more than this community, so here goes:
I just got a Vibrant and want to possibly give my G1 to my son, who has no data plan on his line. I think he's less than a year into his two year contract with a cheap little Motorola phone. He's okay with using the phone without a data plan while he's out and about and just using the wifi when available, but if I recall, T-Mobile used to automatically add a data plan to the line when activated. Do they still do this and if so, is there a way to avoid this? The G1 is rooted, btw, if that makes any difference.
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Isn't the data plan tied to the sim card ? Rooted or not ? I have 2 lines on T-mo acct., girlfriend doesn't have data, I do. If you switch sim card to a different phone, she "still" doesn't have data. I do.
Just tell T-MO no data on that line.

Samsung Galaxy tab

Can you wifi tether this and just use my home network? If do i have to get the data plan
I've looked and asked around but I'm getting mixed information

ive read it has wifi, can connect to home network

NewZJ said:
ive read it has wifi, can connect to home network
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yea i seen and read that too but was told io had to get the data plan to connect /boggle i want one but the data plans are crazy .. when i could tether it to my phone and use my wifi network at home

CheesyNutz said:
yea i seen and read that too but was told io had to get the data plan to connect /boggle i want one but the data plans are crazy .. when i could tether it to my phone and use my wifi network at home
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you can use you home network withour a data plan it works just fine, i tether from my Evo to my tab all the time and find it cheaer and more convient

Yes u can but if u buy one from the provider u gotta get a plan. Later a wifi only version will be released
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tmotech88 said:
you can use you home network withour a data plan it works just fine, i tether from my Evo to my tab all the time and find it cheaer and more convient
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cool i thought you could but wanted to make sure

DirtyShroomz said:
Yes u can but if u buy one from the provider u gotta get a plan. Later a wifi only version will be released
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well bestbuy told me i did not have to get a plan and its working just fine from my home network just picked it up and i did not get a data plan /shrug

yeah you dont have to get a data plan. that would be crazy. in a nutshell and please excuse the comparison but essentially it is like having a big ipod touch. you dont have to buy the data plan and dont let anyone tell you that you do.

CheesyNutz said:
well bestbuy told me i did not have to get a plan and its working just fine from my home network just picked it up and i did not get a data plan /shrug
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little off topic here, but if you're bored, i wouldn't mind a review of the tab. i've seen it from the tech blogs standpoint, but i'd like to see an actual user review it.
just a thought.

It depends on the version you get whether you need to buy with a plan or not. Sprint, for example, does not offer the tab without a plan, but Verizon does.

mclife said:
It depends on the version you get whether you need to buy with a plan or not. Sprint, for example, does not offer the tab without a plan, but Verizon does.
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funny best buys selling them for 599 i just bought one and im using it hell my wifes on it now and wont give it up

Unlimited Data For Anyone! (AT&T) [IPHONE 2G REQUIRED] **Correct Way**

This was posted before. It will NOT work once they do an IMEI dump. SO.. THIS is how it should be done. Yes, it works.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2)Register the iPhone 2G in iTunes.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Use the phone for a day to show some usage
5) Put SIM card into your Atrix or whichever 4G device you'll be using.
6) Call AT&T and tell them you got new phone. You will be grandfathered in to new Unlimited data plan. $5 a month more.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
Again, if you use previous guide you will be put into a 2gb data plan when they do an IMEI dump and see you're using an Atrix on an Edge data plan. Activate Edge plan, then TELL THEM you upgraded. They may try to BS you, dont let them. They CAN and WILL grandfather you into an updated unlimited plan!!!

And you know this how...?
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I know this as I did it 3 months ago.

Worked for myself and others.
This has been around for a while. Seeing as an incorrect guide was posted I figured id post the CORRECT way
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joe3681 said:
Worked for myself and others.
This has been around for a while. Seeing as an incorrect guide was posted I figured id post the CORRECT way
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That "other" guide was not incorrect. It worked for many users. Fyi. Worked for me just fine.
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It will work yes. Until an imei dump. If you don't tell Att to upgrade you and they dump while you're using an Atrix on a 2G plan, they'll add a data plan but it won't be unlimited.
Okay, it wasn't incorrect... Just inaccurate and incomplete.
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It still works?
Does this currently still work? Just curious.

Worked for me on my step son's line today.

Andy_Thatcher said:
Worked for me on my step son's line today.
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Thank you for the update

I work for at&t
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.

twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Do you remember the matrix id so I can look it up at work?
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hello,
When you call in to tell them you upgraded to a new phone don't you have to provide the IMEI# of atrix? So they would change your plan anyways?
joe3681 said:
This was posted before. It will NOT work once
they do an IMEI dump. SO.. THIS is how it should be done. Yes, it works.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2)Register the iPhone 2G in iTunes.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Use the phone for a day to show some usage
5) Put SIM card into your Atrix or whichever 4G device you'll be using.
6) Call AT&T and tell them you got new phone. You will be grandfathered in to new Unlimited data plan. $5 a month more.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
Again, if you use previous guide you will be put into a 2gb data plan when they do an IMEI dump and see you're using an Atrix on an Edge data plan. Activate Edge plan, then TELL THEM you upgraded. They may try to BS you, dont let them. They CAN and WILL grandfather you into an updated unlimited plan!!!
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twayneo, what exactly are they doing?

twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Several of us are very curious about this. What is your source? What specifically is ATT trying to change, and by what methods? I just ordered my 2g on eBay. I really hope I'm not gonna hit some new snag.

twayneo said:
THIS IS STILL WORKING BUT JUST FYI AT&T KNOWS ABOUT THIS AND THEY ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT PROCEDURES as SEEN IN MYCSP.
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Bump.
Twanyneo, several of us would like to know what AT&T is doing about it. Or was what you said a lie?

Well, I just got my unlimited data today. So, there's that.

lurchbyrep said:
Well, I just got my unlimited data today. So, there's that.
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I guess he was lying. Thanks for the update. Enjoy your unlimited.
Oh, they'll throttle you after 10-12GBs...

vastelectron said:
When you call in to tell them you upgraded to a new phone don't you have to provide the IMEI# of atrix? So they would change your plan anyways?
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I have the same question.

Yes, you provide the IMEI# of your ATRIX. but because you have the Iphone 2G unlimited data the computer grandfathers you in and they can upgrade your $20/month plan into the unlimited $30/month plan.

I am having an issue trying to activate the iphone. I got the iphone 2g and i wiped the data and plugged it in to itunes and itunes reconizes the iphone but does nto try to activate the phone. am i doing something wrong?