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Think some of you might know that HTC will be releasing an update for the sense ui for the htc magic, just a quick question is after the release will there be improvements the the overall performance of the current hero roms ?
Heres another quick question is that i rooted my phone and when the update i out, i need to have it to receive the updates so how do i unroot it to get it ?
I have the same questions about updates please. Now that I've rooted my 32A magic, is it possible to download the updated rom and install it from the htc official page? Or is there a way to unroot the phone.
Thanks....
I think it depends on if the release is for the 32A or 32B magic since the 32B has less memory, the 32A hardware is almost the same as the hero, thats why it runs better on those devices....I got my fingers crossed for a release for 32B
Anyone have any idea when this will be out?
i heard october... on a side note.. im trying to find out how to UnRoot my 32a.. i found a ton on 3gmytouch and g1 but cant seem to find out for rogers magic 32a
i would assume any new release of sense would have a performance boost, that being said, the mytouch, with less memory, will probably still have dificulties running sense. While we can all hope that one day sense will be optimized to the point that it is fluid and stable on these devices, we can still try and work with ROM developers in trying to get it running w/o htc's help. Like touchflo 3d and 2d, it shouldn't take long to port it, and make it stable on more devices. Just patience
It was said that HTC Sense will be available only for HTC branded devices, so only 32A, not 32B.
I think if you still have original SPL and recovery on the phone, there is no problem to unroot it. You need just original, not modified rom. Here is a nandroid backup of clean, original system from my HTC Magic 32A from Orange PL, should be the same ROM as in Rogers Magic:
http://rapidshare.com/files/271071174/HTC_Magic_OrangePL_Android_1.5_ROM.7z.html
There is no point of unrooting your phone to receive the update, just wait and when it comes out, someone here will get ahold of it, hack it, enable root and post it up as a rom for everbody and then you can just flash it like any other rom
Greetings.
I've been reading around the internet about all those ROMs floating around, and all i've found is it that the HERO ROM for the Magic should be great. Yet i can't see what the advantages of upgrading is. Could anybody please enlighten me?
The only advantage I see from upgrading to a hero rom is that you get the sense ui, and the ui runs faster on the magic than the g1.
Just a word of warning that bluetooth does not work on Hero roms, if you have a 32B Magic.
There are a lot of advantages though, root access being the main one which will allow you to do wifi tethering and access areas you would not normally be able to access, which is useful for taking backups and screenshots among other things. Custom roms here will (usually) also give you better performance than stock roms through compcache or using a swap file or swap partition on your sd card. Probably the biggest advantage IMO is getting to try out the latest available stuff for Android months before it gets pushed to you by your mobile carrier. There is no hint of a release date for Android 2.0 for HTC Magic yet but you can download a rom from here and try it out today if you wanted to.
I've read that the HERO ROM brings Flash to the Magic as well, is that correct?
And yet another question, i've got a danish Magic, 32A with HTC written on the backside, what HERO ROM should i use?
NB: As my account is a new one I have not been allowed to post URL links, will update once I am allowed to do that!
Android Phone Info
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
HBOOT-1.76.0007 (SAPP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.07.29
Background
I bought my HTC Magic in Singapore (through SingTel) about 6 months ago. About a month ago I used the HTC software ROM update to update my HTC Android 1.5 to HTC Sense UI 1.5 (NB: the android firmware version remained the same but I am now using HTCs Sense UI).
I finally decided to root yesterday and since then the problems have begun!
Just so things were "clean" I restored my phone to factory settings. However, I cannot figure out how to go back to the stock 1.5 (ie. the one that DOES NOT use Sense UI). So, now I am on a basic (without any modifications) version of Sense UI.
One-Click Method
I then tried this to root my phone with the 1-click method
When I click on “Backup recovery image” I got the “Failed” message. So, I clicked on the hidden asterix and tried to flash the image but I got the same message again. Essentially, this did not work for me. I posted on the comment thread (just yesterday) but have not gotten a response on it yet.
Method on XDA Forum
Then I looked around and found this more "complicated" method and found an HTC Sapphire Hacking wiki post which seemed easy enough to follow.
I generally use linux but just to be sure I followed the guide to the letter I booted up XP.
Everything worked fine until I got to this command: C:\AndroidSDK> fastboot boot recovery-rom.img
I got the following error message: fastboot failed, remote: not allow
Solutions?
I have looked all over this forum and a few others and have found this can be because of the "perfected SPL", however, as far as I know my SPL is 1.76.0007 and NOT the 1.33 "problem" SPLs.
I have NO idea what I should do now. I really want to root my phone but I am completely stuck as the simple method does not work, nor does the "complex" method
Any help on this matter would be very much appreciated
HTC Magic 32A
The same issues with me, i am currently stuck with the Sense UI with no way to root my magic and i have tried everything possible.
If you find a solution please do let me know
Is yours singtel? I think the updated Sense UI rom may have blocked it. I can't find a way of getting back to the stock rom.
I am not sure if it is singtel, but when I first got it before installing the sense rom, the boot screen says AirTel. I am not sure if this is the same but that's what I see.
There is nothing wrong with the Sense UI rom but I just need to have root.
Anyway I will keep looking for solution because I am sure that one of these developers will eventually find a way to root but till then I might just get the nexus one. From what am hearing and reading the phone is pretty simple to unlock and root.
Don't really want to buy a new phone just to root!
Airtel may be from India
Yeh, I think it is from there because I few forums I have visited mentioned India.
Well am not only getting the nexus one for the root capabilities, is just that the performance of the phone is amazing and I am a loyal fan/customer to HTC and Android and I cant wait to have one of that bad boy for myself.
perfected spl me thinks
Do you think? But, I thought it was only certain 1.33 builds?
Can no-one help with rooting my phone?
I have the weekend and I'd be willing to try something complicated.
Actually Singtel has given 12gb free data per month which means that wifi tethering is a really reasonable option and I want to set this up. Hence, I would really like the ability to root my phone.
There's (as for now) no way to root that SPL.
yeah same here,im also from singapore and having problems rooting.
could one of you technology gurus help us out?
seems like a waste if we cant root this phone =(
Wouldn't say it's a waste haha. But, I would like to use 1.6 (and then later 2.1) and also perhaps use tethering and other cool features!
PurpleFries said:
This is how i got mine working from perfected spl->custom rom
If you want a different rom, dont follow the last 2 links, and find whatever you want to flash, after the first 2 links you will have a non-perfected spl and be able to flash whatever your heart desires.
There are easier ways to do this if you are not running windows 7. Apparently theres a way using htc sync, but i cant get it working, even with all of the fixes that people have claimed work for them
PurpleFries said:
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
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For the video in that link, watch up until the point where he tests the goldcard by putting it back into his computer to see if it opens. You don't need to follow his instructions past there
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This is a direct copypasta of one of my other posts, so sorry if some of it doesnt have anythign to do with you.
Just follow the guide in the second link after making a goldcard using the video in the first link.
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW EVERYTHING EXACTLY!!!!!
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
abhiroopb said:
Will that goldcard method work? I mean I know there are never any guarantees but I'd like a general idea if you can manage it of whether it'll work or not. Don't really want to waste hours on it as it seems REALLY complicated!
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It doesn't work so don't waste your time. I've tried
Is there NO method to root this at all?
my touch 3g fender need root
hello over the past couple of days I seen many ways to root the 32a but I tried and still no luck.Does anyone have a guaranteed way of getting this working.I thought the process was going to be simple.To jailbreak a Iphone all you all to do is donwload the software and click on the file that simple why can't teh android platform be the same
ermm same as me ... using same version but mine is Malaysia unit
Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
/\/!k said:
Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
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Yes, you can root your phone. Try to include detailed information about your phone so people can give you specific information regarding your phone and even give you some links.
For example, use a signature such as:
Sapphire HTC Magic 32A
RADIO-3.22.20.17
ROM-CyanogenMod 4.2.13
RECOVERY-Amon RA v1.5.2H
THEME-n/a
LOCK SCREEN-default
SD CARD-8GB 512mb:EXT3 / 32mb LinuxSwap / Remainder Fat32
Okay thnx, so can u tell me any roms for the htc magic that are safe
All are safe. How exactly did you brick you're Dream...?
I flashed a htc hero rom and then i couldnt turn it on anymore or go to recovery, but I have another question do I need a special SPL to be able to flash roms or is any fine
Sense Ui for Rogers Magic
Hello Everyone,
Well since you want to know when your Magic will get the sense ui or hasn't gotten it yet is that they still are working on it. Check this link out: http://simflecks.com/?tag=rogers
The post is quite recent and even right now they still are going to release it. Things got delayed to the device problem of 911 not working with gps feature on.
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
Now, since you posted your question: if you want SenseUI running on 2.1 you'll have to wait a bit because the source or rom image is not available yet. There are some experimental roms available, but I doubt they are for everyday use (some things are still not working). You can however run vanilla 1.6 if you want a higher and stable Android version, but it won't come with SenseUI. Vanilla Eclair is also an option, but currently not as stable as 1.6 (same reason, no 2.1 source/rom image/drivers made available yet), but they are getting there.
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
I have a Rogers HTC Magic. I haven't upgraded the SPL or the Radio. I'm currently running "[ROM] [32A] Android 1.6 Super Stable & Super Fast... [FEB 10th] Old Radio" for everyday use and it works great.
If your are really new at this, go to theunlockr dot com. Scroll down a little and you'll see a drop box called "Select a Category" select HTC MyTouch 3G/Magic, scroll down again. You'll see 2 video links for "How To: Root the HTC Magic in One Click!" and "How To: Load a Custom ROM on Your HTC Magic".
Good Luck
magicdroid said:
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
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Agreed. Moved to General.
Hey there. I've ordered an htc magic, and since it has a 288mb memory, i suppose it's the 32A version (we'll see when it gets here though).
I basically want to turn my magic into the HTC Hero (well the UI at least..) I've spent most of my day today reading about how to flash roms, which ones offer this or that, what the problems are and so on. After about 10 hours of reading, i came across this:
htc.com/hk-en/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=765&news_id=355
on the HTC webpage (EDIT: please add "w w w." in front of the text as the forum won't let me insert a link)
And my first question is... What's the difference between that official rom and, say, the CursorSense32A-1.2.6.1 ROM - which i take is the most popular around here.
Just use Cursor's ROM. You won't regret it.
I'm sure it must be better. I just wanted to know basic differences...
Is CursorSense using Android 2.1 or the normal 1.5?
Cursor is using the 1.5 with SenseUI interface. If you really want the 2.1 i would recommend you check Super-Hero from ahmgsk also with SenseUI.
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
KAwAtA said:
2.1 is most likely unstable. It's ok but I personally prefer stability. Just grab cursorsense and you basically have yourself the hero, but be careful flashing radio and spl.
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That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
give us the fastboot details on your phone and I'm sure someone (including myself) can help you in the process. Just follow instructions and you should be fine but we'll guide if necessary. Lastly, is that 32A the one with the headphone jack? (If it is, I can't help you too much lol, I can point you places but that's it)
petsasj said:
That was my main concern about the cursorsense and that's why i was looking for the official HTC Sense UI update. I still don't know what their difference is and what more does cursorsense offer.
I am a computer engineer, so it SHOULDN'T be that big of a deal to flash some firmware on a cell phone, i just have a lot of reading to do, which is not all in one place in a form of a tutorial or something.
If anyone has some useful links to provide, you'd save my day. Thanks a mil once again.
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Not to be rude but this link was on the CursorSense thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=605239
Just follow it step by step. It doesn't take a Computer Engineer to figure it out, by the way it's written and explained.
Also, the official update flashes your radio to the 6.35 radio, so I'll say it again, just go with cursor's ROM you won't regret it.
It's fast, it has no carrier branding, it's fast, it's stable and did I mention it's fast?
I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
My phone has not arrived yet so i cannot provide any more information as of now.
devbro said:
I advice you against using an official rom. specially if you want to make modifications/root/hack your phone. those official roms usually fix bugs that are needed for hacky things to be done, such as gaining root.
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Okay so here is a biggie that i need help for.
I am looking into buying a used HTC Magic (32A) that is in mint condition. The seller told me, after i asked him if i can use an unofficial rom on his, that he has flashed an official rom on it and is unsure if i will be able to flash modified ROMs.
He shall provide me the SPL and Radio versions tomorrow, as well as the ROM version he is using.
What do you think i should do? In case the SPL is perfected (which i suppose is what devbro meant) is there any way to revert back to an engineering SPL and Radio (i am looking into using Cursor's ROM).
Thanks guys. And i shall be providing the Info as soon as i get it so you can help me decide.
It's called a 'perfect' SPL for a reason. Just get the Radio and SPL and post it up, we'll be able to tell at that point if it is flashable.
So here are the information guys. Please let me know if the phone is flashable:
SAPPHIRE PVT 32A SHIP S-ON H
ΗΒΟΟΤ-1.76.0009 (SΑP10000)
CPLD-12
RADIO-6.35.08.29
DEC 8 2009,17:38:48
Nope, that indeed is the perfect spl. It has not been successfully flashed yet.
So what would you do? Get another phone with a non perfected SPL, or get that one in hope that someone will find a workaround and maybe a wait for an official 2.1 eclair android update for htc magic (although i doubt it tbh).
how bad is the official htc sense ui compared to cursorsense's?
Myself, I bought a 2nd Magic, so I have 2 rootable phones.
As for the comparison between official HTC releases and Cursor....I have no idea as I've only used cooked ROM's. Both of my phones came pre-rooted, so I never had the pleasure of a stock ROM. LoL
The official 2.1 should be here in the next few months (as late as June), if you can wait, else you will need to drop the $529US+++ on a Nexus 1.
I wish i had the money for a nexus.. but i don't.
This guy is selling his HTC magic for quite cheap (200 dollars) that is seriously in mint condition (but unflashable) and i was very interested. What i really want is a phone that will be able to get the 2.1 android. HTC might not release it officially for the magic, that's what concerns me, and i was thinking if they don't i would be able to flash it myself via a custom rom.
Well then definately wait until you find one with a flashable HBOOT.
With so many people buying N1's there will be Magic's up for sale. I paid $200CND for my 2nd magic, from a local guy who bought a N1. My first magic I traded my HTC Dream for, not sure what the girl was thinking, but she didn't want the Magic and I was more then happy to trade. LoL
Well i am also thinking of getting the hero and get it over with. the hero will deffo get the 2.1 eclair.. What do you think?
I've never even seen a Hero, let alone used one.