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ok you kno when u start your device for the first time or hard rest it, when u slide the phone up and down and the screen is so responsive. But after when it boots up its sluggis. Is there anything out there to make the screen change faster.
Or is there a rom out there with great speed with slowing down the phone?
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Hi rod1189,
I was searching the same thing and tried many of the ROMs, by the way thanks to ROM developers effort and time they gave the privilege of trying different ROMS, finally I am using Just2Clean and I think it is fast, of course not that responsive cause I think it depends on the hardware but when you slide the keyboard it takes about a second to respond, and boot time is nearly 42 seconds.
Overclock it? I have mine set at 312. It's awesome.
Here is the average speed of mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBkfl2pC00
I use JustMe from ivanmmj, overclock to 299 and remove all the unneeded today plugins using Today Plugin Uninstaller.
On the video I am still using HTC Home but I use a simple rltoday xml skin and it even sped things up more.
But dosent overclocking eat up the battery. and how log does yours battery last b/c mines get drained like crazy without any kind of overclocking program
Battery life on my wing has consistently been under 8 hours for constant use (sms, web(using opera mini) games. Cut that number in half if I use wifi and Skyfire. 48 hours for standby with only sms and a few calls. It doesn't matter if I overclock or not my battery life is pathetic. Honestly I am used to it and just enjoy using my phone. I use a car charger alot when I am away for extended periods of time. My wife has an Xperia and her device last two times more than mine given both scenarios. It is just the battery quality. You might consider buying a bigger better battery if it is an issue.
Note: These are my personal averages and are not metered and verified by any official source.
Mine battery life is great even with overclocking. I can last 3 days without charging but thats just texting and talking. If i use Wifi and internet program(skyfire,opera,IE) it can drain my battery fairly quick. But i only use wifi for short periods at a time anyway.
well if this helps in anyway to determine the problem mines is a
VLN-08
1200mAh
3.7v.
buy a new battery man mines 2000 maah it last me exactly nine hours wit wifi n da battery i bought its called an extended battery for wing so my battery is around 80% longer than da original
highly recomend the battery fix for you.... If your wing is flashed, then you will get bad battery life. period. the cooks need to have the battery fix in the rom or you need the battery fix seporatly if your flashing.
for wizard but the fix works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315558
Draining before Charging
I have been hearing that people have said that its best to drain your battery and then charge it. Is that true? Because they say on cooked roms they dont give accurate battery readings. And they also drain quick as well.
Any Help would be appreciated.
rod1189 said:
I have been hearing that people have said that its best to drain your battery and then charge it. Is that true? Because they say on cooked roms they dont give accurate battery readings. And they also drain quick as well.
Any Help would be appreciated.
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yes thats the best way like what i used to do is used my wing until the battery runs out then i charged it
guntcent said:
yes thats the best way like what i used to do is used my wing until the battery runs out then i charged it
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How long did it end up lasting after you did that. Did our battery stop losing power % like every 8-10 mins. Mines do that now. Now im like whats the point of having new rom for the wing if its juss gonna die this quick with no overclocking or anything.
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How long did it end up lasting after you did that. Did our battery stop losing power % like every 8-10 mins. Mines do that now. Now im like whats the point of having new rom for the wing if its juss gonna die this quick with no overclocking or anything.
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my battery actually perform better than before becuz its charging from 0% to 100% a completely new cycle
guntcent said:
my battery actually perform better than before becuz its charging from 0% to 100% a completely new cycle
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well my battery mite be different whats your model? and how long does it last
rod1189 said:
well my battery mite be different whats your model? and how long does it last
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i used my phone for texting n internet n it last me over 8 hours man. i upgraded my battery so its alot stronger than the usual.
guntcent said:
i used my phone for texting n internet n it last me over 8 hours man. i upgraded my battery so its alot stronger than the usual.
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yea thats what imma have to do cause the factory batteries suck
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yea thats what imma have to do cause the factory batteries suck
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well true factory stuff sucks big time bro so just buy a bettery battery n im glad tht i bought one
guntcent said:
well true factory stuff sucks big time bro so just buy a bettery battery n im glad tht i bought one
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alrtie thanks
At last. Great review from Cnet:
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-vibrant-t-mobile/4505-6452_7-34129373.html?tag=rvwBody
I bet they didn't train the battery since they said it dies fast
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
Tyrant171 said:
What do you mean by "train" the battery?
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Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
Gotcha...good to know. Thanks for the info!
iceshinobi said:
Letting it die all the way then turn it on till it completely turns off and you can turn on again then charge it fully and you do it that for 3 times and your good
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so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
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so you turn on the phone for the very first time and use it on whatever battery power thats left. then use it to the point which it shuts down itself. now turn the phone back on again, and plug in the charger, keep using the phone but with the charger still plugged in. when the battery meter indicates "FULL". unplug the charger. and repeat these procedures 3 times.
Does this sound about right?
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Yep but u repeat 2 times since u already started with the 1st one and then your battery will be maximized for some reason i still don't understand clearly
Li-ion batteries have a few quirks. They need a few full charge cycles to get the full range of the battery. Then for the best lifespan you should top off the battery every day. Every 30 or so top-offs (once per month) you should drain the battery completely then recharge. Depending on the quality you should get 3 years or 200-500 cycles. The batteries continue to slowly improve.
I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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Agreed. I don't think I've ever taken a photo with a cell phone flash that I was happy with.
I immediately thought the same thing (re: training the battery) when I saw this review. lol. You'd think that cnet would know these things, wouldn't they?!
Also clearly they didn't try to use the night mode vs a camera with a flash before whining that it has no flash.
Yea I hope more reviews come in the next 13 hours or atleast I go in my car to drive to T-Mobile tomorrow morning
Mobile Burn has a good video review here
youtube.com/watch?v=PFOwe_Jj3pI
Heres another one from Mobility Minded
youtube.com/watch?v=aXYLOI5i7Gw
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I don't see what the big deal is about the camera not having a flash. I have the HD2 right now and almost never use the flash and if I do half the time I retake the picture without the flash and it comes out better.
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It's a big deal for people like me that are out and about in the evening or even in rooms with not very many windows, in those cases it makes the camera almost useless because all you get is a blurry mess or a black screen
When you turn on Night Mode, the camera quality is actually really good in dark situations.
Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference. When I got my phone (mt4g) I starte using it right away without charging it, everything seemed fine I had an issue with the screen so I exchanged it and got a new one. This one I charged first for a few hours before even turning it on and it did make a difference. my battery seemed to be holding a charge for longer. When I got another battery I read they recommend charging it fully off for at least 8 hours then when you do power it on let it run down all the way. Do that for the first 5 charges and it will help your battery health in the long run.
Another example is my friend got two of the same phone one for him and one for his gf. He started using his as soon as he got out of the store, hers he charged for her because he didnt see her that night. He said the phones are pretty much set up identically, same software, same services running etc.. and he said her battery lasts noticeably longer than his
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference.
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Thanks for the input. Ya, I have heard a lot of stories like yours.
And even if it doesn't always make a difference, it's only 8 hours, so it should be worth it just to make sure, but when you've been waiting since January for an android tablet and you finally get one in April, 8 hours is forever. ha ha
Thanks
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
SnakeManJayd said:
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
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Many new batteries will charge to 90% or 95%, then display the light as "fully charged". They will continue to to charge to 100%, drain back down to 90%, and back and forth in order to not stick at full 100% (aka charging over night).
That being said I've heard a lot of talk about conditioning smartphone batteries etc. and for the most part I haven't seen a lot of evidence to prove that it is necessary. Lithium Ion batteries really don't need conditioning or anything as much as you'd think... that's really an old NiCad thing to do.
I did not charge mine when i first got it, the battery was already at 90% about and i simply used it for a day and a half and now i'm charging it for the first time. i regularly get new electronics devices and i never have better problems personally. battery tech has come up a ways in the last few years.
It's well known by now the Li-ion batteries do better with short, more frequent charges. It is not a good idea to run it down until dead. These batteries also do not have a "memory."
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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I got my Xoom wifi and plugged it in and turned it on. Couldn't wait any longer.
It's an awesome tablet and the battery lasts all day, with constant wifi and playing.
Thanks for the advice guys
MikeyMike01 said:
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
Sent from my Xoom
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Well said. Alas, no matter what a sound scientific methods proves some people just won't listen...
I used it right out of the box and have no issued
Thanks for posting this - timely reminder to check up on the latest info on li-ion batteries (given I will be getting my xoom tomorrow).
Here is a summary on lithium ion:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Appreciate if anyone finds other links that explain it even better but are also as reliable.
I thought of this thread. It's for N1 but if you have some spare time, tons of information in that thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609&highlight=battery+calibration
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
kersey said:
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
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One review, think it might've been Eldar's, said that a full charge took around 3 hours. If that's true, it's pretty amazing.
I don't think batteries really suffer very much from "battery memory" anymore, so you could probably just turn it on while it's charging! (I did with my Hero and it's fine.)
kersey said:
I think the title says it all, with a few of us hopefully getting our phones over the next few days, am wondering how long the initial charge should be.
I'm know in times gone by they used to recommended 16 hrs first charge but how long should we charge for (am hoping you guys advise not long as I won't be able to wait to play with it).
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Hmmm we are not really sure at the moment, however, dombledore and staceymobiler can give you that information as they are the only two people here in the forum who have retail SGS2(AFAIK). Also, I am pretty sure that the documentation that will come with the phone will definitely have the details mentioned Just a few more days to go for you to get your hands on that!
Enjoy! And hope that helped
You can charge whatever amount you want, whenever you want. Modern batteries DO NOT require an initial charge, and can be used right out of the box. Out of the box, they'll come with around a half charge, so you can use that half charge before charging, or you can change immediately if you want. It doesn't matter at all.
You charge until the message appears in the notification bad "charge complete, please unplug".
There is no need to charge LITHIUM batteries for 16 hours the first time.
Further, the batt will come with some charge - you can safely use it up first, and charge later.
AJerman said:
You can charge whatever amount you want, whenever you want. Modern batteries DO NOT require an initial charge, and can be used right out of the box. Out of the box, they'll come with around a half charge, so you can use that half charge before charging, or you can change immediately if you want. It doesn't matter at all.
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Hey! Didnt know that!! was still stuck with the old mindset that i will have to charge the new phone out of the box for a specified amount of time and only then will i have be able to use it to avoid the memory effect. Are you saying that this is not required anymore?! wow!
ndnesh said:
Hey! Didnt know that!! was still stuck with the old mindset that i will have to charge the new phone out of the box for a specified amount of time and only then will i have be able to use it to avoid the memory effect. Are you saying that this is not required anymore?! wow!
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Not with Lithium based batteries. Which is good, cause I'm not very good at charging new toys before use.
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
What do you basr yourself on for this??
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gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
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i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
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Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
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I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.
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I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
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Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.
I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
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The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
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gemini002 said:
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
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actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
veritasxe said:
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
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That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...
Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Ahhhh vindication ...
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As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
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A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
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