Hi all Elf users,
I have bought a Sony DS970 BT Headset and use it with my Elfin. This BTH has play/pause and next/prev buttons in it thru which we can control the player in Elfin. These controls as of now works perfect with HTC Audio Manager and WMP. Prev I was using TCPMP, this doesnt work with my BTH so removed it. As u all know, HTC AM and WMP doesnt produce audio to its fullest ie., no audio enhancements available. So was looking around here and came to know 3 gr8 media players, core, kinoma and pocket.
Tried all these 3 players and none of these support my BTH functions. Does anybody knew anyother gud player which supports AVRCP or how to customize core or pocket or kinoma to accept my BTH functions?
This wuld b of a gr8 help for me.
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Core and Kinoma are all proprietary companies, so its pretty hard to keep it working.
You only bet is Windows Media player, you can try writing in to core and see whether how it works.
writing in to core in the sense in their forums? I hv browsed thru their forum and there are numerous unanswered post related to AVRCP.. tht is the reason I posted in XDA.
As of now I am using HTC AM, cos, during playback, I can sense some audio lag in WMP.
No other player supports AVRCP? Wat abt GSPlayer?
Yes, Windows Media Player always lags.
I think HTC AM is the best bet, it runs and works well.
Why you need a new software for managing music?
I am a prev owner of Sony mobiles..also I am bass and loud music freak..in Sony I used to tweak the music files to get gr8 bass..when compare the sound quality wit HTC it is meagre..to be frank, after upgrading my ROM to WM 6.5, the bass puch is gud..but not satisfactory..HTC AM and WMP lack equaliser and audio enhancin options..so looking for a better player..tried SRS, but it screwed my in-call sound..so dnt wnt to try it again.
I know that the Onyx 4.6 and Onyx 5 ROMS have the built in equalizer, its called Audio Boaster and It can be found in the programs menu.
the booster works only with a headset connected to the Elfin physically and not via bluetooth.
jeremy89632 said:
Core and Kinoma are all proprietary companies, so its pretty hard to keep it working.
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Not at all. Kinoma Play's AVRCP support "just works" with phones that use the standard (Microsoft) Bluetooth stack.
If you're feeling adventurous (i.e. be sure to backup before you try), Captain_Throwback posted a standards-compliant replacement for the HTC stack here.
-- Charles Wiltgen
Thanks for the reply.
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Not at all. Kinoma Play's AVRCP support "just works" with phones that use the standard (Microsoft) Bluetooth stack.
If you're feeling adventurous (i.e. be sure to backup before you try), Captain_Throwback posted a standards-compliant replacement for the HTC stack here.
-- Charles Wiltgen
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wats ur say?? I believe elfin is based on MS BT Stack as mentioned by Menissys in General section.
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Is the best media player CorePlayer for the PocketPC? I want to ask everyone before going out and spending the whopping $20.
I just want one solution, the best solution, so I don't have to revisit this again and have something that will play both my audio and video file types.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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Is the best media player CorePlayer for the PocketPC? I want to ask everyone before going out and spending the whopping $20.
I just want one solution, the best solution, so I don't have to revisit this again and have something that will play both my audio and video file types.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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The best may be the freeware version of CorePlayer, TCPMP
Would anyone have the link to TCPMP? I tried Google'ing but kept running into dead links.
Never mind, found it.
What about here?
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1080
EDIT: Damn, it didn't work either...
Try this:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
cayotte said:
Try this:
http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
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Thanks. I eventually found it but didn't like it so sprung for the CorePlayer. All is well now.
Thanks all for your help!
ltxda said:
Thanks. I eventually found it but didn't like it so sprung for the CorePlayer. All is well now.
Thanks all for your help!
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Why not install both TCPMP and Coreplayer? That way you also get AC3 support through TCPMP if ever you need it.
I get an error with TCPMP with AC-3 audio - am I missing a setting somewhere to enable it?
Error: Player: Audio codec (AC-3) not supported by the player!
ver 0.72RC1
rpgsx3r said:
I get an error with TCPMP with AC-3 audio - am I missing a setting somewhere to enable it?
Error: Player: Audio codec (AC-3) not supported by the player!
ver 0.72RC1
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You need the AC3 codec (I don't know where from though, try the forums at corecodec). However, if you install Coreplayer (the retail version of TCMP) then this codec is installed automatically.
I don't know if coreplayer has to be activated in order for the codec to work though.
No, it's not. Maybe you are thinking of AAC but AC3 is definitely not in Coreplayer. There was a huge discussion on their forum along the lines that you don't need AC3 because there is no PDA with 5 speakers and it would increase the price for coreplayer unnecessary because of the license fees they would have to pay to Dolby. Anyway, they might release it as an additional plugin later. The current plugin for TCPMP is a grey area legally speaking. Get it as long as you can still download it somewhere ...
Is there another player that can cope with pausing automatically during an incoming phone call/voice command.
I tried tcpmp an it kept playing across calls, which is a bit annoying when you've got the phone set on autoanswer..
Built in media player does work like this, but that's the only thing I can think to say that's positive about it..
fards said:
Is there another player that can cope with pausing automatically during an incoming phone call/voice command.
I tried tcpmp an it kept playing across calls, which is a bit annoying when you've got the phone set on autoanswer..
Built in media player does work like this, but that's the only thing I can think to say that's positive about it..
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Pocket music www.pocketmind.com
chaiya said:
Pocket music www.pocketmind.com
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Yep I found a link to it after I'd posted, the demo seems to be working pretty well so far. Will see how I get on and buy it if it works properly.
Pocket Player
Well even though it seems quite a bit flakey, Pocket Player. It works with Bluetooth headsets, well at least my Sony Ericson, if you want quality FLAC file playback this seems fine and a very good way to fill a 8GB microdrive ;-)
Playback with a proper stereo headset is good as long as the charger is not attached - which is noisy. As this pda can access usb drives, it could form the basis of a funky hi-fi systems if you use FLAC files and spend some money on a better power supply, oh and get hacking the device to find the direct digital outlet to pump to an external dac. Actually I've not tried connecting it via it's usb output - has anybody else? Not use this would work though.
Russ
Hey does anybody know how to use the forward and backwards with a bluetooth stereo headset? It works perfectly with WM Player, but CorePlayer give me an EQ and can get way louder than WM Player.
Anybody got any other program I could use then?
I am using POCKET PLAYER (as recommeded in the thread below), it does have full AVRCP - forward/backward (which is a 10 sec bump in the track, not a full track bump) stop/play. Pocket Player does not play AVI video's, so we had to re-convert some stuff. I would also note watching video's using BT was skippy (less skippy than WMP, but skippy enough I wouldn't use it that way).
See this link in another part of Xda:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279459&highlight=avrcp+media+player
I was going to try CorePlayer myself, but their website did not say it was AVRCP...so I e-mailed them and here is their response:
"Hello,
Thank you for writing to the CoreCodec Support Group.
Bluetooth has just been added to our last release. It may not support some of the functionality. We are still working on and hope to have all the bugs fixed in a future release!"
HEY GUYS I FOUND SOMEWHERE NEW NEROMOBILE-v.1.4.0.9-pro-final-full MOBILE PLAYER ITS AMEZING I ATTACHED PC INSTALLER FOR U ITS WORKS ON MY ELFIN VERY FINE
Nero Mobile package is designed for organizing and playback multimedia content on smartphones and PDAs. Nero Mobile can work with photos, audio and video files so you can view and organize their collections. Content is delivered to the device from a fixed media center through UPnP protocol.
Also available online radio listening and television viewing Internet broadcasts. In Nero Mobile supports media formats such as MPEG-4 AVC H.264 Video, High Efficiency AAC v2 Audio, MP3, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 SP ASP, Ogg Vorbis and many others. ON processor architectures optimized for XScale, ARM, OMAP and Freescale mx.21. Nero Mobile will enable mobile devices to synchronize work with Nero MediaHome work on the PC.
link
http://www.4shared.com/file/67863220/1226dbb3/NeroMobile-1409_pro.html
reserve for further
Anyone willing to make a cab off this? Looks like a neat player I'd like to try.
Kinoma is much better..
http://kinoma.com/
i wish i could agree with that assessment crazylilboy. ive tried kinoma. and havent gotten to neromobile just yet. but, kinoma SUCKS!! cool interface and that's where the positive end. it hijacks all ur file associations so you cant play anything straight from file explorer as it becomes unrecognized. it scans ALL my folders for media even crap that is in program files and other directories that arent media related as thats what support says it shouldnt be scanning. lastly, and this really isnt all. movie playback is crap compared to coreplayer. it only supports 3 file types, one of which a normal person would use or encode their movies to(mp4). u cant decent quality because u have to keep the bitrate soo low for it not to freeze or chop up. so, ill try this as it cant get much worse and if u need other reasons NOT to use Kinoma, PM me
OH, and thanks for the find on Neromobile
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i wish i could agree with that assessment crazylilboy. ive tried kinoma. and havent gotten to neromobile just yet. but, kinoma SUCKS!! cool interface and that's where the positive end. it hijacks all ur file associations so you cant play anything straight from file explorer as it becomes unrecognized. it scans ALL my folders for media even crap that is in program files and other directories that arent media related as thats what support says it shouldnt be scanning. lastly, and this really isnt all. movie playback is crap compared to coreplayer. it only supports 3 file types, one of which a normal person would use or encode their movies to(mp4). u cant decent quality because u have to keep the bitrate soo low for it not to freeze or chop up. so, ill try this as it cant get much worse and if u need other reasons NOT to use Kinoma, PM me
OH, and thanks for the find on Neromobile
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+1 true that
lol!! too hilarious crazlilboy
nevermind***
So, what do you guys say is the best music player anyway, with a good combination interface and features. I really didn't like S2P due to the lack of sorting by ID3 tags and lack of equalizer et all, Touch player(samsung's bundled with omnia) is OK, and Kinoma is speedy and all yeah, but not that big on features. Any other alternatives.
And uhm, cab possible? Or just the installed folder zipped?
A good Music Player for WM... theres a number of them but it all depends on personal preference and there are a couple which do stand above the crowd such as Conduit's Pocket Player and PocketMind PocketMusic.
s2p is obviously the best music player.
as for video.. i'd go with coreplayer.
Already tested neromobile but I still prefer TCPMP for stable and light, or s2p for it´s nice design
TCPMP v0.81 + Plugins (Unofficial)
http://www.4shared.com/file/28357319...CPMP_v081.html
Thanx to teixeirabmb for providing this
for me is coreplayer and pocket player
CorePlayer + Opal YouTube + S2P (because it kicks ass) + WMP for playlist = too many media apps, but it's all I need, also MobiTV !
i use mortplayer with iphone skin
i just luv how you can track change using gestures...
i use my phone as car music player so i dont like looking for buttons while driving
I tried Nero Mobile more than a year ago.
I will not try that again....ever, not if there are other choices out there.
Some of you mentioned S2P, I thought S2P is just a shell for WMP. Is it actually a player?
A Cab File Please..
Can anyone here provide a cab file for neromobile please.I'll be much thankful for the help.Please.....
I have my HD for about a month now and I am wondering which music player you guys use most... I do like the touchflo music player, but since i have disabled TF3D i cannot use it anymore... Have tried Core Player and WMP but none of them are really finger friendly, in terms of browsing for media....
any recomendations for a finger friendly music player???
I use only Pocket Player.
mortplayer , nitrogen , s2p
PocketPlayer is the best. Worth spending money on it. Crossfading, FLAC/APE/AAC support, great and finger-friendly library...the only bad thing about pocket player is that you can't get it on your desktop PC
PS. Oh, and HD becomes a bit laggy when using pocket-player, but it mostly manifests itself with poor tf3d framerates.
Receiving calls, writing sms etc works fine. Since you don't use tf3d this shouldn't be an issue for you.
I use Pocket Player and I have had problems with it - the HD certainly is laggy when running it and fairly often I have to Soft Reset and even Hard Reset to get the phone back to a usable state. I haven't looked into a alternative yet.
EDIT : I should say that I have disabled TF3D and use SPB Pocket Plus instead.
I use PocketMusic 5.0
Equalizer is more effective than the one within mediaplayer. Together with a Bose QC3 headphone. Great sound!
About a year ago I tried every music player I could get my hands on. I found Pocketplayer to be the best for what I need. I have been using PocketPlayer for almost a year now on various devices. Seems the slowest on the HD. Minimising/maximising takes too long imo. The program is fantastic, only downfall is the speed.
Pocket Player for me.
I like also Pocket Tunes but it does not have a WVGA skin so you have to put up with VGA. The advantage is the sound quality is a little better than Pocket Player.
But, if I had to have only one then Pocket Player.
Kinoma FreePlay or Kinoma Play.
Unlike all the other players, it doesn't get slow when you have 5-10GB of music.
It features smooth scrolling and a beautiful, ultra fast user interface.
Makes use of GSensor and rotates with a nice animation.
I think it's the best player and I could not find any disadvantages. Other players have disadvantages like PocketPlayer getting slow with lots of music in the library, S2P not working in landscape mode (except for coverflow) and being a bit buggy sometimes, PocketTunes not working with WVGA....
Kinoma is finger-friendly, ultra fast, stable and feature-complete.
pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal
sorry for the semi-offtopic but does one of the mentioned players let you choose the shuffle by album like in good old ipod?
i can say for sure that tf3d wmp and s2p don't (sadly!!)
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pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal
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Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")
MortPlayer
Strange no one use MortPlayer! For my needs simply the best! And a lot of features to customize as YOU like
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Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")
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Simple, it uses less cpu ! the higher the value more cpu it will "reserv" for itself leaving for e.g. tf3d "laggy". Bellow normal while doing smt heavy the music starts to stutter.
Try it !
thank you for all the feedback guys... all of you have been more than helpful...i will try pocket player
Has any1 tried PocketMusic..i find it more easy fast and better sound quality than pocket player. You can select a folder or even a single track
Hey guys, I tried almost all players besides Pocket Music and Kinoma FreePlay. Until now, the best for music was the native wmp, coreplayer being horrible for music for me.... Now I want to test Pocket music, but I have a problem, how and WHERE can I get a WVGA skin???? The native one is really beautiful, but "only" VGA. There should be about 10000 themes as it comes from Winamp, BUT, which one is WVGA?.. Could someone please help me? Thank you!!!!^^ to topic: until now, I "love" wmp, cause its hardware accelerated, so it NEVER stopps with multitasking (only on opening Opera, but I think Opera takes for this task full 100% cpu) and it shows my covers beautifully^^ but just try all, there are always trial versions
Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
Sleek HD(Blue)
480x800 or 800x480
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Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
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Thanks for the tip!
Any player that supports playlist on the main screen? I'm using wmp, but it waste so much space that could house a long playlist to choose from, I don't use wmp for movies anyway.
Hello,
I have been searching ... but I have had no luck finding an audio program that can do the following:
1) FAST audio playback (like TCPMP)
2) Bluetooth Control (PAUSE/PLAY, Forward, Backward (like windows Media Player)
3) Can continue to play with the SCREEN OFF (Like TCPMP)
Any Suggestions?
Thank you for your time
qu1nn
Mortplayer http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&entry=mp_program&action=list
I highly recommend the cleanglass and darkglass skins http://www.sto-helit.de/downloads/pocketpc/mp-skins/
Thanks for suggesting mortplayer...
Settings are odd, but you get used to it after a bit.
I see that the display shuts off, and that the headset controls work, which is great!!!
However is there some sort of plugin that I need in order to change the playback speed?
I cant seem to find the setting.
oh and the darkglass skin is cool.
thanks again
qu1nn
qu1nn said:
Thanks for suggesting mortplayer...
Settings are odd, but you get used to it after a bit.
However is there some sort of plugin that I need in order to change the playback speed?
I cant seem to find the setting.
thanks again
qu1nn
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Sorry, I misunderstood the "fast"request. The only other program that I'm aware of that will allow playback speed adjustment is Coreplayer, though it's not a feature that I would seek out myself. TCPMP was the beta/development tool for Core. Core has a much richer feature set compared to TCPMP. Core isn't free and in my way less than scientific study, it used about 2X the memory when playing audio files when compared to Mort. It's also a great all around video player with decent built in (no browser needed) youtube support.
Purchased Coreplayer V1.3.0 build 6213
Initially I had a heck of time with stability issues.
After at least 20 lockups, I found that everything became more stable if I just disabled anything that had to do with the internet / youtube / and the Library Functionality.
It is a bit of a hog.
....the Iconics are non-intuitive,
....in order to sort a playlist by filename you have to disable the library
But at least I can now do the (3) items I originally asked for.
Thanks for your help
qu1nn
I'm still using 1.2.1 and have no stability issues that I'm aware of. I'm going to upgrade later to see if I have similar issues. If Core was a little lighter on ram, I wouldn't bother with Mort at all.
qu1nn said:
Hello,
I have been searching ... but I have had no luck finding an audio program that can do the following:
1) FAST audio playback (like TCPMP)
2) Bluetooth Control (PAUSE/PLAY, Forward, Backward (like windows Media Player)
3) Can continue to play with the SCREEN OFF (Like TCPMP)
Any Suggestions?
Thank you for your time
qu1nn
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You can actually enable the unattended play feature in WMP by changing the value of
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Media Player\Preferences\UnattendedPlayback
from (decimal) 0 to 1.
Now you just need a plugin to speed up playback so you can ditch CORE like I did (yes, they suckered me into paying for it too).
Hope that helped!